This remains a pivotal video for all who have considered, and will consider coupe versus HTC C8. So very valuable!!! I know it was in our decision to get our first HTC in literally 53 years. Thanks so much Jeremy!

Love the hardtop convertible. It is a lot easier than having to remove the targa manually. I also like that you can roll down the back window for more engine sound. Pretty cool!

Beautiful C8 and great review Jeremy. I could feel your excitement and felt as if I was riding with you. Truly excited about this Vette. Thank you for the review.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Fantastica value-able video. Ever since I first read listened to it right after it was made last September, its usefulness for anyone considering getting an HTC was terrific. It is so informative. Listening to it now nine months later as we are planning on getting our first convertible in literally six decades (except of course for our motorcycles), once again this video is so informative. Not that there were any doubts before, but this video cinched our Z06 will be an HTC. Great job Jeremy!

@jagwelborn

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you, John! I'm glad this was helpful for you, and I look forward to seeing your new Z06 HTC some day!

Awesome review...the review of the HTC attributes is much appreciated. That rear window drop will be awesome even on cold wintery days of fun up in the mountains. Good looking car

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Jeremy this is your former SWOC VP here. Awesome VLOGs and great information for everyone to digest and make a determination on which car people want, coupe or convertible. Think I will wait and see what the Z06 looks like before getting rid of my 17 GS. I just like the look of a slightly wider body with bigger tires. Glad to see you are doing well

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Great hearing from you! That GS is a great Corvette! Stay well and enjoy!

Enjoyed the video, especially since you did the first part in Kentucky on Versailles Road and the Bluegrass Parkway. Great looking car!!!!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you...glad you enjoyed it!

What a gorgeous car, and a fantastic review of Coupe v HTC.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Excellent video, we picked up our 2023 HTC on 08/10/22. When I parked it for the winter, we live in northern Illinois and don’t drive it why the salt is on the roads. We have the performance exhaust, front lift, magnetic ride, 3LT, front splitter, low spoiler, and non Z51. We will never track it and I don’t like the summer only tires, they are horrible when the temperature drops below 55. We drive, with the top down if it’s not raining even in the 30’s. I agree with your assessment of the HTC, being the ultimate road car, everything you said I have experienced, including leaving the back window just that partway upward the bottoms out at, and it keeps the wind out. I don’t know where you live, but hopefully I will get together with you sometime, we just love this car love to drive I’m 75 years old and this is the best car I have ever driven, thanks again for the video

Nice 😁. Your specs are sweet. Less is more. It looks great. I’m saving this video for guiding me in the future.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and I'm glad this was helpful to you!

Great video, thanks. I have a deposit on a 2021 HTC, 3LT, NPP, FE2. It will be a long wait so I'll have to live vicariously through your videos until then.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I hope the time passes quickly for you. The good news is that it's definitely worth the way!

@alphaomegastables

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn Can you give me any info on how long it took you to receive your 2020 HTC VETTE? I orderd mine back on Aug.5th 2019, here in Florida. They told me, even with production yr extended to Dec.2020, bc of the UAW Strike & Chinese Virus...I wont get my Vette till March of 2021...& thats after I had to reorder the car from a 2020 order#, to a 2021 order#, & not loose my place in line. My 2020 is/was in #1100 order status, so forget about gettin it. My only option was to place a New 2021 order & I'd be put in the front of all the new 2021 orders. CAN YOU HELP ME TO UNDERSTAND THIS...OR AM I GETTIN JERKED AROUND?? THANKS JEREMY!!

Congratulations! This is a perfect review of what I wanted to know about the wind and the windows. Wish I could give you more likes. Enjoy!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks!

nice to see another older guy with the C8, i have a HTC on order - old fred (76) from CT.

Amazing review and great points Jeremy 👍

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I placed an order for my 2021 HTC , just like yours . I can’t wait to drive it!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

I'm excited for you! Congrats!

Thank you, glad to see someone that’s not pushing the Z51 package!! There are some on here that seem to want to make you feel less than if you don’t get the Z51. The car performs well without it and to me the spoiler design looks like a stuck on after thought 🤷🏽‍♂️

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! Most people would be absolutely fine without Z51 because of how they drive the car.

@rondail5675

3 жыл бұрын

Jeffrie, I agree. I don't want a Z51 package or Mag-Ride if I upgrade to a C8.

@robertjakicic5878

3 жыл бұрын

If you are planning to race or track your C8 then the Z51 package is a definite must . If not then there's is no need for the Z51 package. One thing to consider when ordering the convertible i believe the option is the same price as the Z51 option. Another great thing about the convertible you won't have to worry about rain getting into the engine compartment unlike the coupe.

@billcalabrese911

3 жыл бұрын

Jeffrie Williams I totally agree... I have a C8 non Z51 ... I absolutely love it... less than 5% will ever track the car, and I saved $5,000 as well..

@jwill6560

3 жыл бұрын

Bill Calabrese Funny, some people only choose that option because they like the looks of it with the splitter and spoiler 🤔 I don’t like the spoiler, but wanted the splitter so I ordered an OEM splitter less than $200 and had it waiting here when my car arrived... what a savings 😂

It looks amazing without the wing

@bobcraig3648

3 жыл бұрын

I agree but my 17 year old and his cronies all love the badass aspect so I may order it just for that.

@lasensaciondel3d568

3 жыл бұрын

you stolen the idea from my mind jajajaja i agree to

Great comparison and detailed information. Thanks Jeremy.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you...you're welcome!

Very nice, Jeremy. Thanks for the tour and very useful information. My order is: 2021/Arctic White/HTC/Z51/LT3/MagRide/Carbon Flash Nacelles/Z51 Spoiler/Front Lift/Two tone Adrenaline Red interior/Carbon Fiber interior. You’ve solidified my decision! God speed and enjoy the ride.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and you're welcome, sir! Sounds like a great build...congrats!

Yup, I have a HTC on order! 2021/2022 (depending on whether there are any drop-offs) Red Mist Tintcoat with black interior w yellow stitching and yellow calipers. Your review was awesome, very detailed (love your videos for that) and totally confirmed that I made the right decision. Wind noise is not a big deal for me cause I already own a 2017 Merc-AMG convertible that I'm planning on trading in for the C8. Won't see it until late year but just can't wait! Looking forward to more HTC videos!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your order, and thanks for your comments!

The response form Jeremy helped me make up my mind. I will order the C8 with the HTC and 2LT and Performance Exhaust for sound and 5 plus HP. That's it and some other minuscule options. Minuscule in price I mean. Thanks a million Jeremy. Somehow you are the best narrator out there in the KZread C8 world.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

I'm glad my commentary has been helpful to you! I look forward to hearing how you like your new Corvette. Enjoy the drive!

Good for you man! I want one of these but I'm not doing that dealership price. I am going to wait. Thanks for the review.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I paid less than MSRP...can't believe some are paying $10K and $20K over sticker though!

Completely agree with your comments about "need" for Z51 package. I am very surprised at the % of 2020s ordered with Z51. I gotta believe half those people have no clue about all the Z51 specifics. This is especially true regarding the summer tires. I wonder how many Z51 owners will drive their summer tires during the cold and even snow of winter....a big mistake.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the comments...very good points.

@JBsC6

Жыл бұрын

People who drive in the rain during spring summer or fall have much less adhesion than driving the z51 in winter months. These are NOT cup 2 tires these are P4s tures and they are fine. The internet has done many z51 owners a favor because so many are selling off the p4 s z51 tires at half price Thanks guys! .

Excellent video, thanks for sharing. My decision is going to be hard. I love the look and interior feel of the HTC with the 3rd window adjustability and convenience of putting the top up immediately with a press of a button. Especially when those stray rain showers pop up. The HTC with its Nacelles looks exotic more so with the spoiler less non z51 package and that’s how I’d order it. That being said I do love seeing that exposed engine in the coupe!! Decisions!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and you're welcome! I have a solution for your dilemma, however. Buy one of each! LOL

Dude, you’re making me second guess my decision on ordering a coupe instead of a convertible. 😂

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

LOL Can't go wrong either way, really! Congrats on your order!

@rva_eray

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. I’ll appreciate it more once it’s delivered!

@timgenter1264

3 жыл бұрын

I was going to say the EXACT same thing. Your car is exactly how I would spec a HTC.

@loupanozzo6802

3 жыл бұрын

My first corvette was a 71 t-top where the back window popped out. I loved riding around with the back window out! With the windows rolled down there was no wind Buffering sound inside the car. I have to make my final decision soon.... Probably going to order the same color combination you have only with a Z 51

@Lutestick

3 жыл бұрын

There are cpns to each. I personally would take the coupe as it is lighter, not hard to take off the top and you can see the engine. The HTC is amazing in it's own right though

THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!! You just stopped my OCD/ADD squirrel brain from overthinking all of my build decisions and saved me $5k. I've got my name on a wait list, talked to the dealer and sent him my non-Z51, 3LT build (there's also a supply issue w/ MagShocks)... he convinced me to go Z51, 2LT... even though i'd never track the car. But cooler heads and experiences prevail. When the time to actually sit down and order my car comes up.. it's back to the Z51, 3LT. I normally drive an F250 anyways so the non-Z51 is more than enough for me!!! Thanks again!!

That picture of the video.... fabulous

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Love your videos keep up the great work

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Great review of your beautiful htc C8🔥

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@rbridges018

3 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Welborn you’re welcome sir!

Peace be upon you Mr. Welborn, Thank you very much for producing and sharing videos of your Corvette C8 convertible. Your HTC seems to be specced out just right (love the color combination; and yes, the car looks good without the spoiler). 👌🏾 When I’m ready, I intend to get a convertible as well. I hope to see you on the road one day... 🏎

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and peace be upon you as well!

Thank you for the informative videos. Glad to hear the positive things about the non Z51 package which is what I ordered. I have a TPW of 10/12/20

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, and congrats on your order!

@alphaomegastables

3 жыл бұрын

Hey, did you take delivery...or did Chevy screw up another order, AGAIN?? CONGRATS ON OWNING A C8!!

Excellent review!!! As a C7 convertible owner - was wondering about headroom with top up....thanks for confirming it's better than the C8 coupe since no halo bar. 100% agree that Z51 isn't needed for most people. The performance exhaust is worth it! MRC shocks are known to leak over time (5-10+ years) and are expensive to replace.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

Thank you! I'm getting a convertible 2021. Got the Z51 package. Do not intend to track it. Very excited to have it in my garage soon.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your order!

@alphaomegastables

3 жыл бұрын

That Z51 package for 2021 went up $1,000 to $6,000...NO THANKS!! You can get the Upgraded Exhaust of the Z51 for $1,195 & for '21, the Mag ride control for $1,895...without ordering the Z51 package. That Front Lift went up too, from $1,495 to $1,995. You have 2 New colors for '21... RED MIST TINTCOAT replaced the nicer LONG BEACH RED METALLIC & FROST SILVER replaced BLADE SILVER...see if you like the same colors, but New Shades!!

Nice video. Love the HTC!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! 👍

Thanks for the good material! I’m 6’5” and you make a point no one else is making. The coupe structure is very different from the convertible.

@jagwelborn

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome!

Jeremy. You do a great job. I will be picking my yellow C8 at the museum in 9 days. I only hope I drive it a fraction of the time you do. I bought my current 2015 yellow C7 from Mike Furman and only has 9k miles in 5 years. Looking forward to all your future updates. Jeff from Md.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your coming NCM delivery! You're going to have so much fun! Thanks for your comments...enjoy the drive!

@alphaomegastables

3 жыл бұрын

Did you trade in that 2015, with 9,000 mi?? Sounds like a Great buy...since the Dealers give you nothing near what its worth!! Curious!!

@jeffcartersr5055

3 жыл бұрын

@@alphaomegastables kept it to make sure I would be happy with C8. Sold it three weeks later for 48k. Guy loved it.

Thank you for another realistic review. Myself, I wish Corvette would break out the components of the Z51 package like they did the exhaust. I would like a heavy duty cooling option and also like the bigger brakes as a start. I ordered several new Corvettes starting in 1979 and you could order these individual options back then. Just as I ordered my Z06 in 2017, I didn't want "all" the make-up of the Z07 package, I individually ordered the complete aero package, the carbon ceramic brakes and also gray colored calipers and forgoed the more harsh track suspension and Pilot Sport Cup 2 tires. Corvette listens to their customer base, which is fanatastic, so maybe this will be possible one day. Thanks again Jeremy for taking the time to make the Corvette world a better place.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and you're welcome! I really like your idea too and will suggest it to my friends on the Corvette Team. Great idea!

@alphaomegastables

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn While your at it, let them know, that New Red should NOT have replaced the Long Beach Red Metallic...it was a lot darker(Maroon) than the Red Mist Tintcoat...which is NOT much darker than the TORCH RED!!.. Also, it would have been nice to have a PEARL WHITE METALLIC besides that plain solid Artic White & "Lite" Gray...THANK YOU!!

Fantastic video thanks for sharing!!!!!!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, and thank you!

Another great one

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Simply magnificent. Should be in a museum already, work of art ❤️😍😻

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

nice review!!!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Because of this video I actually ordered a 2023 HTC without the Z51 package. But got the performance exhaust and the new low rear wing spoiler and front spoiler. Got the car and love the sound over the coupe Z51 that I owned. Thanks again for the information on the HTC non Z51 especially the exhaust sound. Never liked the coupe sound and it was just way to quite even with the Z51 exhaust.

I love my 2020 Corvette stingray spider with 3LT Z-51 package

Great job. We got our Z51 coupe from Kerbeck. Since we occasionally auto cross and track our cars it was a must.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and that's awesome! Enjoy the drive!

@alphaomegastables

3 жыл бұрын

Wondering if KERBECK gave you any kind of discount or if they are charging MSRP!?? There's plenty of PROFIT built into that price, especially in the 2021 model...the options packages all went up. GOOD THING, YOU CAN ORDER THE MAG RIDE CONTROL FOR THE SAME $1,895.. WITHOUT THE Z51 PACKAGE AS REQUIRED FOR IT IN 2020!!

@michaeljordan6008

3 жыл бұрын

We paid MSRP. While there is plenty of profit in there, there is also plenty of demand. And time is money, we wanted the car ASAP. .

Been dying to get my hands on the convertible C8!! Still waiting for it to come to the market in Switzerland 😭🇨🇭

Great review.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video, thanks so much !!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and you're certainly welcome!

So smooth without the wing.

Great video

@jagwelborn

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Awesome video thanks

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and you're welcome!

Jeremy, great information and review. I Liked the detail you provided. We have decided on the convertible for all the reasons you have sighted AND the ability to have a two tone exterior. I Like the non-spoiler profile better as the rear design is perfect! My current car is a Z51mildly custom coupe with a blip for a spoiler and it works just fine. NO tracking!..What about the cooling system? Have you experienced any overheating? AND your exhaust is sweet. Thank you so much. If you are in Lawton, we did the Boyles Landing Master Plan where the hospital is located,a long time ago. We enjoy your posts, always great information. LM - NCM1730

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Daniel, and congrats on what will be an amazing new Corvette for your stable! The cooling system is fantastic on the new Corvette, and the Non-Z51 cooling is sufficient for street use. Yes, I'm in Lawton and my wife and I had our first child in that hospital. Small world! :)

Dude, You have to be the most luckiest guy I know. You have 2, COUNT'EM 2 C8s! BISCUIT WHEELS AND GRAVY HIGHWAYS!!! When I grow up, I want to be like you. I've had 2 corvettes. I had the 2013 GS Coupe 60th Ann. Ed. and the 2016 Stinger Z51. I've always said when Corvette comes out with a Hardtop Vert, I'm buying it. SOOOOOO, Hard Top Vert is what I'll be buying and I'm doing the Museum Delivery this time.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

LOL You're going to love the HTC! Sounds like your first NCM delivery too, which will be fun as well. Congrats!

I originally ordered a 202 3LT Z51 coupe but changed to a 2021 3LT non/Z51 HTC. I liked the look of the Z51 spoiler and wanted MRC. Since I was pushed back to a 2021 and now available with MRC w/o Z51. I started to look at the HTC. I think it looks better without the spoiler. Sounds like I made the right decision. Just got an email from Mike that I'm 'finally' going 3000 tomorrow.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats! You'll love it!

Another great video. Did you take some back roads given you were in the initial 500 mile break in period? I will have a 320 mile ride after delivery and will try to avoid too many 70 mph highways to vary speeds.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks...and yes, I greatly varied my speed, etc., during the first 500 miles. It's fun taking the back roads from time to time.

Thanks Jeremy, exactly like I want mine ordered! Just to confirm, the HTC has the camera rear view mirror with the top up or down, correct? Keep up the great reviews, can't stop watching!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Bob! The HTC rear view camera is only operational when the top is up. When it's down, you only have use of the traditional rear view mirror.

@bobcraig3648

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn I take it that's satisfactory. Keep up the great work, thanks Jeremy!

Jeremy thanks for the video! I'm doing a red torch build a lot like yours. You have the black top and left the mirrors red torch. Do you regret that or does it look good. Any regrets? I kind of like the mirror red torch with the black top. I'm highly considering doing the red torch body color full as well so the stripe and the back vents would be red torch. kind of matches my 2002 red torch convertible. Let me know. I am doing a convertible. Thanks

Extremely informative review! I have an Audi S5 convertible and it also has a windscreen. I do not know if anyone can answer this question, but I wonder if there is much additional noise on a C8 as it does not have a windscreen option. I have found a huge difference over the years on both noise and air turbulence at highway speeds on convertibles that have windscreen options. Normally windscreens offer huge benefits in these areas. Also have neck warmers in the Audi. Would be cool if Chevy adds that option in the future.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I found that the ability to raise and lower the rear window provides for a non-turbulent drive at highway speeds.

Excellent demo of the various windows and top settings; exactly what I was looking for. Great sound in Z-mode. The only demo I would have liked in addition would be the sound system with the top down. Perhaps for a next video? I'd also like your opinion on having the Magnetic Ride on the non-Z51, which will be available for 2021. Worthwhile or unnecessary?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I thought about doing a segment on the Bose sound system, but that's hard to convey via video because it doesn't translate well through whatever speaker system the viewer is watching on. It's a fantastic sound system and the best Corvette has ever had, though. For the MSRC on the non-Z51 for 2021, my first opinion is that it is unnecessary. However, I may change my mind after I have a chance to drive a 2021 with it.

@GadgetyMV

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn Yes, I realize that it probably requires a binaural microphone. Thank you for the reply. Great to see you enjoy your HTC C8 and sharing the experience.

Very informative video! I’m struggling to decide between the coupe and convertible and with or without Z51 and this video answered some questions regarding the convertible. How do you like the two tone red and black interior? Do you think that the red parts will wear well? I only have experience with black interiors so far but that interior is high on my list. One fellow that I spoke with at Carlisle had a natural dipped interior and he said that one downside to it is that the dye in his blue jeans leaves ink marks on the seats. With the two tone seats, that should be less likely. Also, this may only be a concern with the two lighter colors.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Glad it was helpful! Traditionally, the red interior wears very well over time. I love the two-tone with the black inserts, which tone down the otherwise all red seats. Best wishes!

I think that without spoiler/wing looks much better

I drove a 2022 Z51 from November until last week. I took delivery of a 2022 non Z51 today. The difference in the tightness of the steering seems huge to me. I don’t know if I can tell the difference in the suspension but I’m extremely disappointed with the steering. I drive in sport mode all the time and immediately I noticed a difference in tightness from the Z51. It felt more like tour mode in the Z51. And track mode felt more like sport mode in the Z51. I remember track mode the steering was extremely tight like it was almost hard to steer. I even went into Z mode and put everything on the max settings to see if that tightened things up. It seemed more like sport mode in the Z51 but maybe not as much-I’m not sure. Then I started to wonder if having everything in max in Z mode is just the same as driving in track mode since all the settings look the same and if it’s even ok to drive with these settings or track mode on the street. I’ve read so many posts saying never to use track mode on the street. Am I missing something or is there a huge difference between the feel of the Z51 and the non Z51? At most I’ve seen people talk about maybe a 10 percent difference in the feel so I didn’t think it would matter to me. I don’t think it’s in my head since I wasn’t even looking for it to feel different. If it truly is that different of a feel is there anything I can do to get back to that Z51 feel? It’s mostly the tightness of the steering I think since I don’t know if I would notice a suspension difference. Note: Both the Z51 and non Z51 have mag ride.

Thanks for sharing. My questions is how did you handle the road bugs day by day on your trip home?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! I have a Novistretch mask for highway driving.

Just watched your entire video. Thanks for taking the time for us viewers! So... I am currently in line to order my HTC C8. I will not be tracking car at all so I am not interested in the z51 package. But should I add the mag ride on my non-z51 build? I do plan on putting bigger aftermarket wheels on the car. 20 in front & 21 in rear.

@jagwelborn

2 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! I think mag ride isn't competely necessary on the non-Z51 car, but my preference is to have it for a little more control of the various settings.

I sat in a 2020 Corvette with the GT2 seat last week and the seat bottom bolster felt tight between my hip and thigh. Wished it adjusted like the seat back bolsters. Otherwise everything else is great. Especially like the aircraft inspired steering wheel.

nice Jeremy, I just hope the ZO6 will be as awesome as the stingray seem to be.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you...and the Z06 should be even more awesome! :)

Very helpful review! I'm leaning towards the HTC (2021 model), non-Z-51 but with mag ride and performance exhaust. I won't be tracking the car.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you! You'll love owing the new Corvette!

@KRGruner

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn Would you recommend 3LT vs 2LT (1LT not in play for me), given the price premium? I would get the GT 2 seats regardless. I know they are included in 3LT.

Hey, Jeremy! This review was fantastic! (New SUB). Do you notice a difference between having magnetic ride control in your coupe vs not having it in your convertible?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, and welcome! In normal and slightly spirited driving, no, I don't notice a difference. I'm going to do a comparison video soon with both cars on the same road in the various modes.

@Gerald_G

3 жыл бұрын

Great, I’m looking forward to that!

Thanks for this. You should make video running them head to head in the 1/4. According to Chevrolet z51 and non z51 both do it in 11.3s

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, and thanks for the comment. I'm going to do a driving comparison video when I get another nice day to do so.

Awesome video. Where did you buy the Novistretch for the C8? And how did you break-in the car while traveling from the dealership?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I test pre-production masks for Novistretch, so watch for the production version to come to market very soon (hopefully first of October). I drove back roads, highway, changed gears from time to time, varied speeds, and didn't use the cruise control on the first 500 miles.

You are a 🌟 In my dream car.

This was the exact model I wanted but I was late and it was out of stock. Soon enough I bought a white coupe by a lucky dealer.

Thank you Jeremy .. Your video was Great help in adjusting my order for my HTC .. If you could please tell me more about the ride in the GT2 seat. as you drive down the road any road... between Z51 or non Z51 .. this would help me better understand the feel ..not the noise but the feel on you butt...you know what Im saying ITs just so difficult to get an idea of the feel ... I have ordered the Z51 but after watching I think I'm going to drop it and do what you did ... thank you again... please let me know your thoughts it would be a huge help.. Cheers from Canada

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome, Andy...thanks for the comments. The GT2 seat will be a little firmer than the GT1 seat on your rear and legs. It's a little less firm than the C7 Competition Seat. If you can sit in the GT1 and GT2 seats before your order is finalized, that would really help you make the best decision for you. Congrats on your order! Cheers!

@andyd8185

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn Hey Jeremy.. can you describe the feeling of a hard ride or not between the z51 and non z51 when travelling over a bumpy road or a rough road ... I am trying to determine the suspension harshness between the two setups and which one I prefer. I want all the extra's the z51 ( larger brakes, cooling, etc) but I am looking for a ride quality and if the z51 is to much to take on 2-4 hour rides. I realize Im asking a lot but hoped you would help me figure out the difference since you have both rides.. lucky guy. Thanks again for the great videos

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

@@andyd8185 Sure! If you're on a bumpy road, touring mode will get you the best ride, of course. Touring mode in the non-Z51 is the softest ride, but Touring mode in the Z51 is very close as long as the car is also equipped with Magnetic Ride.

Your car looks great Jeremy. I've got a similar non-Z51 build on order. Can you verify for me that you have the Spectra Gray trident wheels, as opposed to the Sterling Silver?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Congrats on your order! Yes, they are the Spectra Gray Trident wheels.

Do you notice any additional play in the steering of the non Z51 vs Z51? One other c8 review video claims that there is - I'm thinking that their car needs to be taken to the shop to be looked at?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

No, no difference in the steering that I could detect, nor should there be.

Great review, currently I have a convertible but I have had both Z51 and without, I prefer without Z51. First can't track a convertible, Second , Z51 dumps black dust all over the rims. Third, I am amazed how many people purchase softer riding tires and brag how much better the ride is. Why did they buy a Z51 in the first place? A coupe for the sporty person who is going to track it, I would agree.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, and thank you for your comments as well.

do you have any idea how the ride quality is in a c8 Z51 without mag ride in your opinion do you think the ride would be to stiff in the Z51 without mag ride?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

I have not ridden in a C8 Z51 without mag ride, but I certainly know it would be stiffer without it.

Looking for your opinion! Z51 without Mag Ride. I would like to know if the ride quality is to stiff. Ty….😎

This is the best corvette yet

All here LT levels have the rear view mirror/camera, so the “hump” is not a factor with the top up.

Happy holidays Jeremy. I have an order in for a 2LT z51 coupe but I’m leaning towards changing it to a 1LT z51 HTC (trying to stay on a 80k budget). Do you think I will be sacrificing too many of the 2LT comfort features ?

@jagwelborn

2 жыл бұрын

Happy Holidays! I recommend adding the 2LT if you can stretch your dollars to make it work. I believe it will pay off in the resale as well.

Jeremy when you put the top down does the mirror automatically switch from camera mode to standard mirror or do you manually have to adjust the mirror each time you put the top up/down?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

You have to manually switch it each time.

@Killer_Dwarf89

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn TY for the confirmation! Hope you dad enjoys it...the look on his face when you turned the lights on in the garage was priceless!!

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

@@Killer_Dwarf89 you're welcome! And thank you! He's really enjoying it!

@Gerald_G

3 жыл бұрын

Really good question!

I would rather drive it rather than spending time cleaning the engine compartment and 2 rear windows on the coupe. Did I mention the lack of engine noise other than the sweet note of the performance exhaust with the top up or down?

The convertible is the road trip car because you can put the top down and still use the trunks.

@jagwelborn

2 жыл бұрын

Agree!

Excellent review. What do you think about the Z51 for resale value? My salesman says it’s a must for resale. I disagree. I don’t think I’d have a hard time moving or losing much of it wasn’t z51.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Sounds like your salesman wants commission on the additional $5,000! LOL I don't think resale will make the $5,000 back on the Z51, so I think it's a mute point. I think it was more important for previous generations, but that it won't be as important with the C8.

Looking good Jeremy. Would you happen to know approximately how many convertibles will be made for 2020? When I get mine I don't think there will be to many around fro this year. Z51, LT3, mag ride, front end lift, carbon fibre trim....and a few other things I have forgotten since it was ordered a year ago. LOL.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That sounds like a great build! Plans are to build between 3,400 and 3,500 convertibles for the 2020 model year.

@kerrylittle3900

3 жыл бұрын

Jeremy Welborn Thank Jeremy. You know more than my sales guy. LOL. Mine was scheduled to be built last week. Hoping it was. I live in Canada so if it’s built I’m expecting at least another month for delivery.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Awesome! :)

@sheneedsme

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn Thanks for the info. and excellent review. I have a yellow convertible with black top and red interior on order and I wonder if any other ones will be made with similar specs this year.

Love the video. So do you think you need mag ride on a non-z51?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I personally do not think it's necessary.

@alphaomegastables

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn Personally..I think for $1,895..to be able to select your suspension feel, IS WELL WORTH IT. On touring, its like riding in a huge Caddy, but in Sport...you have the Z51 stiffness feel...& for 2021, the Z51 package is not required...imho!!

I have been thinking of changing from z51 coupe to non z51 HTC. I would keep 2lt, NPP exhaust, and GT 2 seats. Options on the coupe build I’m not sure about on the non z51 HTC, are mag ride, and front lift. Probably need both, I think. The mag ride I think is still worth it even on non z51 suspension. Front lift is getting pricey at $2260, not sure if I will need it, but, hate to need it and not have it

@jagwelborn

2 жыл бұрын

I recommend mag ride regardless now that it's available for the non-Z51. I also think the lift is nice, but I haven't needed it at all in 13,000 miles on my coupe and only used it once in about 4,500 miles of driving in my dad's HTC.

OH NOW!! people are loving the convertible. Ya know for YEARS, theirs always been this ridiculous backlash against people who owned convertibles. As a convertible owner myself. (Saleen Mustang speedster) i absolutely would not have it any other way. Driving around top down is G L O R I O U S ! ! ! ! who cares about what other people think!. if they truly knew what the experience was like few would opt any for hard tops. With the top down you feel like your flying, Good wind management as this c8 doesnt bring the issues of buffeting and wind noise. its a serene driving experience. And when you get on the gas... the sounds are incredible. Now.. the only real drawback of a convertible is the Sun not really for yourself, youl have a tan for certain but rather its about interior care. without question your interior (leather seats) will need to be looked after because the UV rays of the sun will take its toll on the interior. but if your knowledgeable and active in regards to proper maintenance and upkeep you will prolong the interior's life time. make no mistake, convertibles are fantastic. Whats crazy cool about the c8 like most corvettes is the fact theyre all convertibles. so even with opting for a hard top you can remove the top. obtaining at least 80% of the experience found in a full blown convertible. The C8 is an amazing car. i do with it looked a bit better here and their but overall for what your getting its amazing. more than a steal.

Wow. I think the HTC without the wing is a better look than the coupe. Love the carbon flash roof. Are they equal in acceleration?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Essentially, yes. That said, the non-Z51 has a faster top speed because it doesn't have the drag of the wing.

last question for Jeremy, did you have the E60 on any of them and if you do, did it help, or just like an insurance. Thank you.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

We have it on the HTC, and I've only used it once, and that was because I made a mistake pulling up to close to a parking stop curb.

Question, have you driven it in a particularly hilly or mountainous region and how does it handle the inclines?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, I drove it through a couple of mountain ranges in Virginia and West Virginia and it handles the inclines very well. It's a lot of fun to drive on snaky mountain roads!

@blaster915

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn that's great to hear! I live in a mountainous region and I had to know before pulling the trigger on the purchase!

hey, where was the Vette gathering? im in Tulsa? love to drive out your way.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

That was in Pauls Valley, south of OKC. Check out Bricktown Corvette Association on Facebook...some other cruises coming up.

I was pushed back to a 2021 but I am number 1 at my dealership at first I was upset but realized it was for the best because I learned so much about this car And now I'm going to switch the convertible 3lt im not gonna track the car at all with that said do you think I would need the magnetic ride would that increase a smoother ride now that its a stand alone option please give me some advice and your opion on magnetic ride both of your cars are amazing

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Hi Damon, that sounds like a good plan to me. I suggest adding the MSRC to your order with the non-Z51 since it's available. It will provide an even better ride experience, even though without it is not bad at all in my opinion. Enjoy the drive!

Hi Jeremy, are they both 2LT? If so, do you like the upgraded stereo, the Head Up display, the rear camera mirror and the front cameras and the folding outside mirrors? Also did you get the E60 front lift? If yes, you think we need it? Thanks.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

They are both 3LT, and the upgraded stereo is the best Corvette has ever had. I like all of the other 3LT goodies as well. Didn't get the front lift on the Coupe, but have it on the HTC. I think the necessity of it depends on how much one might need it in the area they live. If you live in very hilly terrain, then you might come across more significant driveway and business entry inclines. I don't really need it where I live.

@danle2884

3 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn You sir, are a rich dude.

Question, I noticed no rocker extension and I can’t tell on splash guard. Is this because you did PPF? Is it not needed when you have ppf?

@jagwelborn

2 жыл бұрын

The rocker panels have PPF and we also have the extended splash guards. I don't think the extensions are necessary if you have the splash guards and PPF.

@bsboyd2

2 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn thanks. It looks amazing. As a Kentuckian I’ve always had a goal of traveling to the museum for delivery. Time for that is quickly approaching. Thanks for your videos. Saw you on 615 video and this build blew me away. Thought I “needed” the high wing initially. You proved me wrong. Such a clean look.

@bsboyd2

2 жыл бұрын

@@jagwelborn I don’t really wanna fork over the money for PPF. Considering a good ceramic coat. Never had a car like this so just not sure how to treat it. I do know I’m going to drive it every day possible.

How's the wind noise in the convertible vs coupe (with top off)? Is the convertible so significantly better?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

With the ability to lower the rear glass on the convertible, you have the benefit of allowing wind to flow through the car rather than swirling around the cabin in the coupe. It's not a deal breaker, but it certainly is more pleasurable at highway speeds.

question on the magnetic ride, i have a C7 and wished i had got it. it is useful on a non-Z51 touring C8 Convertible? i plan to wait for the 2022 to come out.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think it's necessary because the ride is fantastic without it, but it will be even better I suppose with it when it becomes available on the 2021 models.

@MrVettester99

3 жыл бұрын

I had it on a c5. Now I have a C7 and wish I had it. My order for the HTC 2020 has it on it. I believe in it. It does make a difference.

Do you recommend the magnetic shocks for more comfort? I had an 03 with magnetic shocks. When shocks went out they were very expensive to replace.

@Behzad888

3 жыл бұрын

I should add I am not planning to track the car. Just want the best ride.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Best ride for 2021 will be non-Z51 with MSRC. It's fine without it, in my opinion, because the best ride for the 2020 is the non-Z51. With it will just be another level of betterment.

Have a 2021 Convertible on order non Z 51. Do you suggest adding the mag ride? Is it worth the cost?

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

I don't really think it's necessary on the non-Z51. That said, it would be nice to drive a non-Z51 with MSRC once the 2021s come out to see how much of a difference it makes. But I'm very happy with the HTC without it.

Question Jeremy: some guys that have driven both the Z51 and non-Z51 (both in Sport mode) have said they can definitely tell the difference in steering, braking, and general handling - even on regular driving.... albeit maybe slightly ‘spirited’ driving in town and rural roads. Would you say that is true? They say the Z51 is definitely ‘tighter’ in its driving feel. A tad bit less lumbering and wallowie... if that’s a word.

@jagwelborn

3 жыл бұрын

Excellent questions! I'm going to take both out on some of the same roads for spirited driving so I can compare them in the same conditions and see what I notice.

@garysaunders8691

3 жыл бұрын

Great Jeremy. There are many, many of us who will wait patiently for your Z51/no Z51 handling assessment comparo video. You are one of the rare few who can drive the two types back-to-back and give a fair and honest seat-of-the-pants assessment. Truth is, as you know, most of us will not track the car... nor will we ever go 194 mph or 184 mph, but if the Z51 helps make us feel a tad bit more like we are Randy Probst on the track when we are ‘spiritedly’ driving the mountain twisties, then maybe it is worth it (at least for some of us, who are buying the vehicle for little more than a weekend fun sports car). My thinking is that a Z51 must brake a little better, corner a little better (less roll with stiffer springs), and be a bit stiffer and more responsive with steering inputs... plus it’ll accelerate a tad quicker with the shorter rear gear. If not, it wouldn’t make sense that it is touted as a better track vehicle? All ‘theory’. Your ‘objective reality’ counts for more.

@garysaunders8691

3 жыл бұрын

Put another way... would a Z51 get around a typical track faster than a non-Z51 (with the Z51 NOT getting the extra DCT quarts or camber adjustments or high-temp brake fluid or brake ducts). If the answer is “yes”, then the Z51 could actually make the car more fun to drive in the canyons, mountains, or trying to beat a NYC taxi from Grand Central to the Javits Center. It’d be awesome if the comparo of both could be made on the same AS tires... but I know that ain’t likely to happen (many of us might like a Z51 with the base vehicle’s tires.... me included).

@garysaunders8691

3 жыл бұрын

In researching the C8 suspension tuning specs, I’ve been told the Z51 springs are 46lbs stiffer in both the front and the rear. The stabilizer bar in the rear is thicker (stiffer) for the Z51, but the front bar is the same for both vehicles. I presume the Z51 rear bushings must be beefier as well. This is what I’m told anyway. We already know the brakes are stronger in a Z51. Thus, my intuition is that the Z51 will feel ‘tighter’ in a driving comparison.... with a feel of quicker steering responsiveness and slightly less body roll and dive in hard cornering and braking. I’m positive the base (non-Z51) C8 drives just great... maybe better than any sports car most of us have ever driven... especially if it had the magride option... but the question du jour here is simply whether the daily/weekend non-track driving feel of a Z51 is noticeable, as compared to a base car.... either in a moderate or perhaps significant way. If it’s not noticeable, with both in Sport mode, then I’m dumping the Z51 from my order. Good luck to Jeremy as our ‘test pilot’.