You know what you're talking about, summed it up in 6 minutes and did so with style and humor. AAA+++

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I truly appreciate you checking out the vid and commenting!!!

Spot on buddy! I couldn’t agree more with your list! And I love the edits!

Good stuff as usual. Sure would like to see some updates on the Brute. We used to rip around on a couple of those many years ago.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah I really like the Brute... I got some buddies who won't ride anything else.. But it's time for an update! Thanks for the support my friend!

@Joe-mp4nw

3 жыл бұрын

@Clinton Freeman yeah bro I agree. The brute would be #1 on my list but it does need an update.

Great review love how you covered different options and situations. The grizzly sounds like the one to get. 👍😀

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out!

Absolutely amazing how you hit the nail directly on the head! Very good video! Perfectly said! Lol 😆 👊

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark!!!!

Great vids and love the humor added in, been binging on them. Quick question: looking at picking up an atv to ride with my bro in law, love the looks of the outlanders but concerned about reliability as I don’t have much experience with or working on these. Would u recommend the kodiak/grizzly 700 or outlander 570?

@DirtObseXXion

3 жыл бұрын

I personally like the Grizzly, I think it's the most comfortable, best handling, and very reliable.. I will say that the Outlanders are great though, we haven't had any reliability issues with them and the Outlander 570 is probably more powerful than the Grizzly 700.. Outlanders get a worse reputation for things like the differentials going bad but a lot of times guys are putting ridiculously heavy tires on them and hucking em into huge mud holes..

HAHAHA! Nicely done! Funny, yet professionally spot on with the info and to the point. Great use of all the different video clips! Not once did I feel like yawning or clicking on another video - lol

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

I'll take it!! I have another project idea like this I could use your help with if you're willing... I just want to use some shots of you and your wheeler with all of your gear on it.. Full credit in video, description, and link at the end of course..

@quaddingsous

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion As long as you're not bashing me or my channel, which based on your respectful content thus far I'd expect not, then GO FOR IT! Always happy to help out a fellow trail rider! And if you ever do decide to come up north & want tracks or directions for high speed trails, let me know. I can help you out with that too.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@quaddingsous Awesome!!! No it wouldn't be disrespectful but it is comedy.. Are you on Instagram? I don't want to spill the beans here but I'll tell you exactly what my plan is on DM..

@quaddingsous

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion No, not on Instagram. You can email me at quaddingsous@gmail.com

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@quaddingsous will do!

Im a kawasaki guy since the 02 prairie and have an 05 brute to this day with a 1020cc big bore kit from big kevs. It was built back in 09 from stock and upgraded shocks an 30"XXL mudlites. Goes pretty much anywhere. I also have two teryxs one on 40s am one built. Wife has a 18 brute that im not allowed to touch. Lol. You are right a couople upgrades and its good. My brother inlaw buys a new grizzly every year after he puts 5000 or more miles on it then sells them to his friends. The only grizzlies in the group are his old ones. One of the older 660s has 28000 miles on original engine. Never been apart and one belt an a bushing kit is all that's been done to it. Maintenance is key an it'll run forever. Thanks for the video im subscribed

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

I'd love to check that Brute out! I'm a Kawasaki fan too, just wish they'd do something new with ATVs.. Thanks for the comment!!!

That was nice, really digging the vids bud

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! I truly appreciate the support!

Fe sold the Highlander today...maybe I can squeeze a quad in the garage and her not notice it! Great vid as always brother

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

WOOOHOOOO!!!!! DO IT!!!! Flyin Brian on an ATV!!!!!

now that is a great video on a similar group of ATV'S thanks for sharing

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother!

I put a 2inch bracket lift and 27inch tires on my brute and a set if 1 inch spacers and the clearance went from 9 inches to 15 and made a huge difference in how it handles and conquers mud and trails

Just traded a Sportster for a 2012 brute force 750 with 1,000 miles on it. It has over $7k worth of accessories on it, including a relocated radiator, a high lifter suspension and body lift, snorkels, a tuner, and 29.5" outlaw wheels and tires. I got a great deal on this thing because the guy said something was wrong with it and it wasn't running right. I changed the spark plugs and everything is good to go. I barely beat my buddies 2021 can-am commander 1,000. I love how light it is, along with the amount of power.

Great video guys!

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother!!! Few more weeks!

I love my 2019 Kingquad 750! Like the video also. Honda definitely needs to make an ATV that's more mainstream like Yamaha or Suzuki.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! the KQ is a great machine for sure! Different strokes for different folks I guess.. I'm hoping Honda comes out with a new 450r!

Well done brother! I’m in the market for a new ATV and it’s definitely between the Grizzly / King Quad for me! Great info and love the presentation!

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out! Thanks for the help too! I'm really digging the SE version of the Grizzly.. I went with the Sportsman 1k, love it!

@Devlins10

5 жыл бұрын

Take em both out for a rip. Both are great all around units for work and play.

Wow, buddy! That is, without a doubt, the best one lunger comparison I have ever seen! I would have to agree 100% with your assessments, my friend! For now, I think the Grizz is king of the heap in this class! As far as the Honda, I think the Rubicon 500 is a WAY better wheeler than the Rincon 680! Even without the bigger engine! The Brute is really NOT a reliable wheeler around here, anyway.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks my friend! I agree, the Rubicon is more refined and you actually see them once in a while.. I've never seen a new Rubicon out on the trails.

@MrNismopro

5 жыл бұрын

Got a 15 Brute, 3100 miles, the only things I’ve thrown at it is a rear seal, and an EPS motor. It tows a lot, I’d say 75% of its life it’s pulling something. Not a bad quad. I’d have to agree though, it is dated and the suspension can be unforgiving when unloaded.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@MrNismopro The Brute is the best platform for modifications if you plan on throwing some money at a machine though.... In my opinion...

@Al3xander8102

5 жыл бұрын

Is Yamaha reliable

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@Al3xander8102 As ATVs go... Definitely.. Just avoid the 700 models from 2016.. They had motor issues

Great editing job! Great video once again!!!!

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! I just love putting these type of videos together..

@TheHowToGuy

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion what do you use, for my lil quick vids I use iMovies but for bigger projects I use Vegas Pro. I need to be more creative in my vids, but I also love the straight to the point style (Military in me), lol! I love your vids, there like minnie As Seen on TV vids...LOL!

@TheHowToGuy

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion BTW I just picked up the Elegato Stream Deck...OMG...Check it out, its all over KZread.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheHowToGuy Even tho I'm former Military... I'm scatter brain AF Lol! I use Power Director 16.. It's cheap and I had a free version on my laptop so I was familiar with it.. Editing, as you know, is all about how much time you are willing to put in.. I think your vids are fantastic, especially the how toos.. Lots of thought goes into lighting and camera angles...

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheHowToGuy Dang, that's pretty cool... I had never seen it before!

I've owned a Hondas, Yamaha, Suzuki and now a CanAm They all have good points for what I used them for

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

I agree, these are all good bikes! I'm coming from the sole perspective of spirited trail riding for these purposes. If you change the intended use of the bike, the ranking would definitely change!

I just traded my 2016 Can am Outlander max XTp 1000r for a 2019 Honda Rincon and I can’t be happier, the Honda is way more fun!

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Are you being serious right now? Sarcasm doesn't show up well in comments... 😁

@rubenjoto06

5 жыл бұрын

You are probably high as crap my sportsman 570 is way more fun than slow ass honda

@qwerty1234me

4 жыл бұрын

That sounds like the worst trade in history

@Joe-mp4nw

3 жыл бұрын

Lol what? You scammed yourself 😂

Easily one of the best videos I've seen, and i've seen a lot. Tell me, do you do free lance, i'd like to hire you.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I don't consider myself any good at this, it's just a hobby for me.. If you do have a project in mind that you think I could help with feel free to shoot me an email dirtobsexxion@gmail.com

Good video I can't keep up with you and read the comments at the same time :)

Being a Bruteforce owner I think this is a good assesment. Id rank the Grizzly number 1 as well....however if Kawasaki ever updated the ride with shocks and tires and mild redo of the styling it would blow the others away.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Couldn't agree more! That's really the main point I was trying to get across too.. Kawasaki could easily do it with stuff they are already using, but they put zero effort into the Brute from year to year... They don't even make commercials or anything.. I know we've talked about it before but I still think Kawasaki is in the best position to break the 750 barrier.. Unfortunately they'd be the last to do it...

@MrDavidelliottjr

3 жыл бұрын

As long as I've had my brute and nail it and she stands up I just can't be happier. The power is just perfect. Might have to give a grizzly a world though. My king quad is getting tired. Sence we use our atvs every day living off grid. But they both work great. I'm liking the grizzly for a 3rd unit. 🤷‍♂️

@Eco.boost2.7

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer the kingquad over the grizzly. Its better in every category, Price/reliability.

@rzl07375

2 жыл бұрын

@@Eco.boost2.7 Can't go wrong with the new Kingquads.

Great Japanese Quad comparison. I totally agree and would add a few things about the cons of the Rincon. Besides being gutless, it has terrible ground clearance, has a high center of gravity and is narrow. It's a piss poor handling machine and is dangerous as far as I'm concerned. You could be driving on a straight flat trail and hit a moderate whoop and end up in the trees if you're not careful. If you ride a Sportsman with one hand over the same place it will continue straight as an arrow like nothing ever happened. It may be reliable but if you like to drive fast at all, the Rincon is at the bottom of the heap. Another thing I noticed about the Rincon is that if you are riding down a steep decline the steering gets very heavy almost to the point of being unmanageable. I like the Grizzly, it's the most Sportsman like of the bunch, but needs a bigger motor. I would consider buying one if it had a 900+ V-twin.

I had an 08 grizzly and loved it. Looking to get back into ATV world. Ive narrowed it down to grizzly or King Quad 750. Would love another Grizzly but the King Quad price is 2 to 3 grand less than Grizzly with the same features....diff lock, CVT, high/low range, Independent suspension etc.... and I do like that dual overhead cam in the King Quad. it sounds and runs bad ass. Having a hard time making that final decision. We shall see

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

I personally prefer the Grizz but 2-3k is a very solid argument! The KQ is a super nice machine, a lot of guys swear by em.. Glad you're getting back into ATVs!

Haha “a one beer job”. 😂😂

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

You could probably get a couple down of you focus hard enough...

@junm792

3 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion nnnnnnn

@jasonmorehouse3756

3 жыл бұрын

belt change on yamaha is an unlimited beer job......you change yamaha belts just as often as you do on the honda

@patl.5504

3 жыл бұрын

If you want stop drinking buy a Yamaha

Which of these quads is smoothest, or best suspension i should say out of the box, i mean over rocks, big roots etc.?

Love my 700 prairie!!! Thinking of ignition box, value job, jetting.. Then again love it!

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Haha! In a first car sorta way...

@ckemp699

5 жыл бұрын

Love the sra brute force. Great machines

@utahwanderlust700

5 жыл бұрын

Dirt ObseXXion Nah, that's what I ride, and there's nothing in the showrooms today that I want more than my good old Prairie 700. It's a sport quad with 4wd. Handles awesome, and it's the go to quad in camp when we do the tippy and scary shit in Moab. It's a niche that nothing else made can fill as well.

Good video, informative and entertaining

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

spotted a familiar machine ripping across the screen. great job again

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Gotta show my love for TEAMWAX! Thanks Doc!

@doc_teamwaxoffroad

5 жыл бұрын

we definitely appreciate. thanks

I love my 09 Rincon , it's great on the trails and sand dunes .

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@crisp_weldz1662

4 жыл бұрын

I know got a Rincon had all the other bikes and its a awsome on trails

You nailed man I think Yamaha makes the best atv’s!🤯🔫👍🏽

Your winner of more shootouts than any other..The Yamaha Grizzly 👏👏👏.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

😎😎😎 yammy

@johngreer8101

4 жыл бұрын

Is this ricky greer from cookeville?

i agree w your 1,2,3 assement well done platform man, i myself 2018 king 750eps. no complaints from me so far. 191 miles in almost 2 years.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! I have a Sportsman 1k.. 100hrs and 1300 miles in a year.. Replaced the clutch at 18hrs and blew the front diff last weekend.. So I'm kind of missing the ole Grizzly..

@o1mtbiker

5 жыл бұрын

Dirt ObseXXion what in the crap hell of a jam did you get in to blow the front diff? I hear it happens, mostly in the older models. But this makes me cringe a little as I just picked up the new 850 sp premium. As it will pull double duty. Play and push a plow in the winter

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

I think you'll be fine.. I beat the living hell out of it WV, destroyed the bushings ball joints and diff seals which allowed a bunch of water in.. It was covered under warranty, otherwise I would have only done the seals.

@o1mtbiker

5 жыл бұрын

Dirt ObseXXion Ah, what part of WV? I bought my 850 in Petersburg last Monday. And I was riding in the Lexington area of Virginia.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@o1mtbiker We were at Ashland ATV Resort riding Hatfield McCoy and the Outlaw trails.. Near Bramwell WV.. Love it out there! Headed back later this year.. We have some vids of it and we were out with HMX Trails (KZread channel).

Great vid. Have a 2017 kodiak 700 eps and just love it first bike. Did the tires, rad and snorkel. No lift yet don’t want to brake the bike want to do it right. 7” lift. Thanks and be well play safe.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Congratulations on the new machine! 7" is a TON of lift on an ATV! That things gonna be a monster!

Honda reliability and longevity is why I bought a Rincon.

Great review man! Exact order id put them in. That lever action diff lock on the kawi is different but not functional. Big pain in the ass. They need to change it like yesterday.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Hondude! Thanks brother, I can definitely see the lever being a pain especially in mud... I've spent some time on a Brute and I thought it was pretty cool for rock crawling... We spent some time on the Outlander 1000r today and I was blown away by that machine! Thanks for being here brother!!!

@spencerbo1795

3 жыл бұрын

True I wish they would change it I love brutes

my 2014 , 550 grizzly still going strong, more power and speed then i need.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

Good video, thanks!

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for checking it out!

Dirt Obsexxion I got a couple questions about the sportsman! What would happen if your in standard mode and you accidental switched it into work? And have you found any problems with the fly by wire? And is there anything you would improve about your sportsman? Last one is there anything you hate about your sportsman?

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

I've never accidentally hit the button but I'd wager a guess that it would act just like coming off the throttle since it's really just an input telling the machine less fuel... No issue with the drive by wire, actually like it because the throttle resistance is perfect.. As far as wrong with it, you know I had the clutch issue that was fixed under warranty... The 19s are clutched differently.. I don't like that the EPS isn't speed sensitive, it's too much at high speed.. The engine braking comes on too strong, and I prefer independent front and rear lever actuated brakes.. I'm working on a full review with everything I like and dislike. But that's pretty much all the dislikes... Drive modes and drive by wire are both wins IMO.

@bbreckner9884

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion thanks a lot man! We are looking at a either a 2018 sportsman or scrambler 1000 and we only have the experience on the scrambler as you've seen!

@bbreckner9884

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion One more thing lol! What do you think of the headlights? I know that they arent LED like the scramblers but I was wondering if there really bright for what they are.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@bbreckner9884 Yeah they're ok... I don't night ride a ton but they are plenty when I do.. That's an easy upgrade tho...

awesome video

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Coffey, I caught the live vid yesterday! Couldn't talk much because I was driving at the time...

Love your videos I would love to see a 2022 version of this

@DirtObseXXion

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks! That's not a bad idea, I'd really like to make it happen with the machines on hand..

High HP bikes are fun if you have friends to tow you home. I ride by myself a lot so i just traded in my old XP on a KQ. Too many axles, pinion plate, electrical issues. Walked 18km, 10mi once when it left me stranded.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

I don't doubt that for a second.. I'd have gone with a Grizz but the KQ is a solid machine too

@ChuckBeefOG

4 жыл бұрын

Ya i am familiar with them but our dealer is a douchebag and the Suzuki dealer is top notch. 3 year warranty vs 1yr also. I had a 2009 Rhino, solid little utv. Blew a voltage regulator during the 2011 or 12 tsunami and was without a bike all summer because japan was destroyed lol.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

@@ChuckBeefOG Yeah dealership definitely counts! KQ should be plenty of fun!

Subscribed ty for sharing

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Moe! I saw you on Junior's live stream, got you too bud!

Me and Will (Canam man) just watched.. and we both couldn't agree more.. great video brother

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks guys!!!! Wlll makes that Renegade look good! HAHAHA!

I don't see much to argue with you about, pretty much spot-on. I had a 16 grizzly and wasn't real impressed with it. Probably one of the worst purchases I've ever made. It had a terrible turning radius, it seemed like there was 200 lb on the back rack, while the power steering was nice I thought the Turning sucked. The takeoff power was also very disappointing, if I end up getting another four-wheel drive quad it'll most likely be the Brute Force. I'm a sucker for power and the thrill of it. Not interested in going back in there Can-Am and not sure I'd go for a Polaris although I think they're liability has come a long ways. One thing about the new Grizzly though is the fact that they went back to the 686, I had a built Raptor with that motor that dynoed 70 horsepower and 50 torque. For a high performance machines it was pretty dang reliable. Just doing a few engine mods that 686 in the grizzly will probably make it a pretty sweet machine.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

I agree across the board! I have the Sportsman 1k now and it's been great so far.. But Yamaha's 686 is a great motor! I do think the Brute is a great platform.. The guys looking to dump some money modding their bike a little bit are gonna be happier with the Brute...

Do a king quad 500 vs honda 520 vs polaris 450 vs can am 500 we need a midsized bore utility faceoff!! Plz!

Well done brother and well accurate. 👌🏼

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks man!

@NorthCountryBoyz

5 жыл бұрын

Dirt ObseXXion you’re my main new channel for entertainment 😎

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@NorthCountryBoyz HAHAHA! Thanks, you gettin the ole girl running today?

@NorthCountryBoyz

5 жыл бұрын

Dirt ObseXXion got the new snorkel setup done today and some new paint on the bumpers. Honestly the only thing left to do is a few more coats of paint and put the plastics on...then off she goes for the new engine break-in period...I will let you know how many hours of the 20 recommended I last before opening up the throttle 😂

We use our 2006 650 brute force eveeyday. Only thing changed was the front axels. Its been great. It looks beat up but ya go out there and it starts and works amd pulls trees aeound the lot like its nothing. I love it.. If i get another. It will be the 750 brute. The tourqe is amazing.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Right on! I'm a big fan of the Brute too

@utahwanderlust700

4 жыл бұрын

I've got an '05 Kawie with over 20,000 miles. Been a great machine. I'm still on original bottom end, gear cases, brakes, electronics, radiator, and fan.

The Honda 680 does have esp and mine out ran a 2019 grizzly and they were both stock.

@collinmurchison4741

4 жыл бұрын

*eps

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Nice!

@jasonmorehouse3756

3 жыл бұрын

grizz owner doesn't know how to drive obviously

I really enjoyed this. I'm a proud owner of a Honda Rancher 420 and I picked that for a few reasons and I love it. Sure, it's not the fastest on the market but with the type of trails we have around here it goes fast enough. It's a good mix for a trail and work machine and the number one reason I went with Honda is the reliability. I need it to go when I need it to go. To satisfy my need for speed, I picked up a 2001 MXZ 800!

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks my bearded brother! I too keep the mug covered in man muff, less my true identity be revealed to the youtube nation.. HAHAH J/K glad you enjoyed it man, I'm really not dogging Honda, but the Rubicon is far more refined than the Rincon.. You are correct though, plenty to have fun with on the trail.. My BFF Flyin Brian has a Turbo RZR Dynamix with a Stage 2 kit, so I had to get the Sportsman 1k in order to keep up!!! Thanks for checking out the vid!!!

@TheGreatBeard

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion Oh for sure, I know you're not hating on Honda, just saying facts. The reality is that most people buy big quads only to do things that my friend does with his old 1985 Honda Fourtrax 250.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@TheGreatBeard HAHHAHA! It's sooooo True! Love seeing a guy say he needs 90hp and putts around trails at 20mph with his wife whose on a 300... LMAO!

@TheGreatBeard

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion Yeah for sure. I see that all the time. Same with snowmobiles. Some people around here buy these big mountain sleds to ride hard packed trails.

@jasonmorehouse3756

3 жыл бұрын

your rancher is a better bike than that rincon

The rin con has a feature were if you barely hold the front break it will lock

@mikequyl8754

4 жыл бұрын

Ok

@jeffhall768

Жыл бұрын

That's how all open diffs work.

Agree. I can’t say much on the Kawasaki, or Suzuki, but I’ve been around Yamaha and Honda. Never really cared for Honda’s looks, and the recons and ranchers can lack power (depending on witch model you get). They have done fairly good for us, but just fairly. I’ve rode a couple of grizzlies and loved them. If I don’t get a Polaris this year, it’ll definitely be a grizzly.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Ive had the Grizz and the Sporty 1k... I'd go Sporty 850 over Grizz.. Personally..

@nathancaldwell3949

4 жыл бұрын

Dirt ObseXXion what’s better about the 850? I’m shopping for a atv

@stevestephaniecaudill4879

3 жыл бұрын

@@nathancaldwell3949 78 horse power vs 48 on the Yamaha, much better storage on the Sportsman. Better 4x4 setup on the Polaris in my opinion, more comfortable suspension as well. And for all that, the Sportsman doesn't cost no more than the Yamaha. Probably the best priced big bore ATV on the market for everything you get with it.

Awesome vid! Lol

Yep the grizz would definitely be my pick too bro love the v twin of the brute but that grizz is just hard to beat. Great video bro

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! Sup Tristan!

Chad I recently switch from 2018 Yamaha Grizzly 708 engine to 2019 Yamaha Kodiak 700 EPS 608 engine because I didn’t want to deal with any problems down the road with the 708 engine also I just received a 5000Hours,20 year or 100,000 miles free engine warranty from YAMALUBE Advantage ,just keep DIY service records online with them, use YAMALUBE oil and oil/filter and keep receipts and I thought the 10 year belt warranty was something Yamaha is really outdoing itself now.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

That's insane! Who even keeps a wheeler that long? I believe it tho! They'll still pay out less in warranty than Polaris.. Love my Sportsman, but I got my money's worth out of the warranty for sure!

@jasonmorehouse3756

3 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion honda and yamaha owners keep them that long. lol

Great vid..like always Honda runs wayyyy behind. Why?? Who knows? I had a Rincon 680 and I hated the 3-speed transmission.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

They certainly don't have too!!! Even got Dylan in this one! HAHA!

@TeamWaxOffroad

5 жыл бұрын

He’ll like that!

@chief1193

5 жыл бұрын

I just got rid of my CanAm and got a new Rincon, I hate that noisy, clunking CVT, such garbage!

@onestophobbyspot9350

4 жыл бұрын

@@chief1193 all you have to do to fix that is get the STM secondary, its not a really big deal lmao, sounds like a big downgrade, i would have went to a rubi

By the way if you are debating on getting a king quad or a brute force that have the exact same hp and near the exact same weight they run about the same you can look up races either is a good choice king is a bit cheaper

@Joe-mp4nw

3 жыл бұрын

Where I live the king is a bit more expensive. I would pick the brute over the KQ because of that throttle response and thrill factor. Everyone who’s ridden a brute knows it’s the most fun quad they’ve ever ridden. Kawasaki barely puts any effort into this quad, if they did it would blow the others away. Kawasaki definitely needs to give it an update...better shocks, better headlights, better stock tires, etc... It all comes down to preference but I would take the brute over the king any day.

I'm home on a rainy day and I've been watching ATV reviews - mostly yours. I have few ideas to throw out there if you don't mind: A comparison of Japanese machines against North American ones. Nobody does that. Sort it by price so whiners won't complain that you compared a 1000 Sportsman against a 700 Grizzly. Compare off road ability, ground clearance, handling etc. I know I'm not the only that would absolutely love that. It might be difficult to get access to all those machines. Also, I'd love to see an in depth comparison of Visco Lok vs True AWD in many specific challenges. Pros and Cons of their different setups for mudding, crawling over rocks or stumps, and slippery conditions like snow. You guys already have both machines so it would be easy to do a comparison test.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Great ideas!!! We've talked about the AWD vs Visco comparison.. Just gotta find the right environments. Kinda waiting for Brian to get tires too because we'd have to control that by having the same size and very similar tires.. I'd love to compare some of the Japanese quads but they're getting harder to come by on this area.. You almost never see new ones.. We're going to be working on some 360 stuff soon to, just to give it a whirl.. Thanks for all the support!

@EastCoastATV

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion Thanks for the reply. You definitely need the right environments for comparison tests, and tires. Can't wait to see the 360 vids.

Why is artic cat not on here

Beautiful

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks

For me Honda is adequate. While hunting moose (my reason for having a quad) I’m going slow down trails looking for tracks and I have no problem pulling 600 or so pounds in a meat wagon

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely a good option for you! That's why I said this video is about trail riding, the Honda is absolutely the right machine in other situations.. Thanks for the comment!

Kawasaki tires are like 12 or 14 ply. I need to change em anyways

Nice video

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks Brayden!

@braydenhardy5188

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion no problem

Great video I’m just not sure if big bore and Honda belong in the same sentence. Haha

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Haha! It's a technicality! Thanks for checking the video out!!!!

I've never had any of these .. As of current now I own 2 Cfmoto 18 500 HO .. And 19 800xc . I really like the Yamaha as number 1 .. The Brute Force they could at least put the 800 in it from the Terex.. Put tires and wheels on it like the Yamaha and update the suspension and the looks

Awesome awesome video buddy!! One beer belt change. You got that right! Hahahahaha Good information and entertaining as well. If Honda would get off their lazy ass and build 1000 cc utility quad with 105 hp! we would all be riding Hondas but it’s a little too late for that. Because nobody who is riding 1000 cc anything would make the switch at this point. Just my thoughts.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother!!!! I don't think we'll ever see an 850 from the big brands, and I'm ok with that.. I like all these quads... But I love my Sportsman..

@jasonmorehouse3756

3 жыл бұрын

if honda came out with a 1000 that could compete with the current 1000s, i believe you would see alot of guys switch. most older can am guys grew up on honda reliably

Hey Dirt ObseXXion.. I know this video is old but anyway I was planning on getting a brand new quad next year as I've been buying used and had enough of them. What would you recommend me getting..., a Polaris Scrambler 850/1000 xp or the can an equivalent, or a Honda Rubicon or Rincon 650/80? Thanks for the help. I like the reliability points but I also want power and some comfortability. Thanks again.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

I'm not a fan of the Rincon 680 because of the 3 speed transmission and fixed shocks that can't be adjusted.. The Scrambler XP1000 isn't available anymore so if you want a Scrambler it's either the 850 or the 55"wide S.. I personally prefer the ergonomics of the Sportsman over the Outlander, but that's just personal preference.. I think the Outlander is going to last longer issue free, but you will have to change out the brake pads very early on (like 200 miles) and there's heat issue from the exhaust that you'll have to deal with.. The Scrambler 850 is the same as the Sportsman 850, just different plastics so that's up to you.. if you're primarily trail riding, I'd say stick with the 850 and spend the money you save on some upgrades.. Sit on the Sportsman and Outlander to see what feels better.. If you go Sportsman, I'd add som cecco frame braces, pinion plate, and a clutch kit to help wake it up a little.. The Outlander will need an optimizer to add some fuel to the map which will help cool it down.. Hope that helps!!!

@Spence5557

4 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion oh I didn't know they didn't make Scrambler 1000xp anymore.. wow. Okay thank you so much bro. I've been doing so much research on all these quads but I really just want an unbiased review and you gave that. THANK YOU and you video was amazing😃. I think I'll probably go with scrambler 850 only because i like the more aggressive look than the sportsman. I just want a comfortable and pretty reliable quad that also has Power lol. I would buy honda because thats what I like but they don't really have any good sports utility. Its a shame..😔 i really don't want a use scrambler since I don't like the mystery aspect of if its good or not when used by someone else. Honda is set to release details on another new quad for this year and im hoping its a revamped rincon thats a whole lot better. Because if so I might get that only because i like honda. But if its a new 450r... thats great and all but I don't need that as i have a fun 400ex lol. But yeah I agree with you on everything else. Alright thanks brother for the help. I really appreciate it!🙂

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

@@Spence5557 If you go Scrambler 850, I'd definitely do the Cecco Racing pinion plate and rear frame brace.. It's gonna feel kinda smooth to you if you're a sport ATV guy, but a clutch kit will definitely make it snappier.. I like the Scrambler too I just always recommend the Sportsman because it has more functionality.. But if you want the look, I totally get that! 2018 was the last year of the Scrambler XP1000

@Spence5557

4 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion yeah ill probably do those upgrade. Although my 1999 400ex that I have its suspension is crap lol. The front shocks feel like pogo sticks. I definitely want a more comfortable ride. Whats the functionality that the sportsman has over the scrambler? Thanks so much again bro! Yeah I like the more aggressive looks as i like intimidating looking quads and thats why i have the bug eyed 400😁

@Spence5557

4 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion do they still sell 2018 scrambler 1000xp new? Because if so I might get one brand new if I can find one

Love my kawi

If we drove our big bores that slow all the time they would never break either. If I ride it in work mode with the low power key it would last for ever, and still be a little faster. 😂 (still digging that sporty) thanks for some real info too, not just the brand I ride is the best blah bliggity blah.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks dude! That's why I don't think we'll ever see the 850 from these companies.. It would definitely compromise the reliability reputation... That said, any of these wheelers are better than no wheeler, and they're all fun!

That's why if I were to get another ATV today, Idk what I'd get. I'm not going to have 2 Polaris. I love my 850 but I like variety. Wouldn't even consider the Rincon bc of the reasons mentioned in this video. So maybe the Rubicon but it's so underpowered. The Brute Force desperately needs an update as well. KingQuad doesn't seem to have the getup and go I want and even though it was 'revamped' last year (give me a break) it's just... idk. So it'd probably be the Grizz for me too. I'd rank these 4 the same as you. I just wish these 4 would come out with something truly new and 'big bore'. Damn MAYBE one day.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

I sincerely believe that none of the Japanese manufacturers will be coming out with a big bore.. I don't think the market is big enough to support it to be honest. A Powersports company in general needs to project to sell 10-15k units a year to make R&D and production profitable. Only about 200k ATVs are sold in the US annually which is by far the biggest market.. Just taking the top 7, which excludes fairly big brands like CFMOTO and Kymco.. There would only be about 28k per manufacturer.. And that's being generous because Polaris holds a big chunk of that market and sell by far more 570s than anything.. Anyway.. if each company had 5 models they'd only be selling on average around 5k per year each.. Polaris has even said that the big bores are a small chunk of the market for them.. I think they're all skiddish after what happened with sport quads in the 2010s.. Not enough demand to support 8 major players, so they all just stopped production.. That's something large companies don't want to have to explain to investors and shareholders. Fortunately though.. The Grizzly is pretty sweet as is..

@jonsatvoutdoorchannel6686

4 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion My whole ordeal with that line of thinking is... Why would anyone ever create anything new? How do you know the demand isn't there, if the product isn't there? I'm sorry, but I would bet my next couple paychecks, that if Yamaha came out and introduced an 850 Vtwin Grizzly (or bigger) with all the bells and whistles as the other top of the line quads, that it would sell pretty well. I truly believe that. There's enough pent up demand from people who want that kind of ATV from these Japanese brands. It's robbing the people of these machines and it's robbing these companies from their ingenuity. No one wins in these scenarios. I understand facts, figures, and probabilities and most people don't want these insane big bores. But because Yamaha basically hasn't done shit since 2007, Honda since 2003, Kawasaki since 2005, Suzuki since over a decade, and more, we're talking about well over more than a decade ago! I refuse to believe that they wouldn't sell well enough to warrant the R&D. But to say they aren't making them because they wouldn't sell enough is ludicrous IMO. You can't say that because THEY DON'T EXIST. It's a cop out. There's my rant lol.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonsatvoutdoorchannel6686 You're thinking from an enthusiast perspective and not a business perspective. It's not just people who say they want a big bore, it's the people who can actually afford a 15k machine, because that's absolutely the price point they'd be pushing.. At that price you're competing with SXSs too. It's not ludacris to say the market isn't there because its not.. If Yamaha (as an example) were to enter the big bore game, they're competing with two companies that already sell more ATVs than they do.. There's no guarantee that Yamaha would sell 10k Grizzly 850s just because a handful of people say they'd go buy one immediately.. And even if that first wave of people did get them and it was 10k people.. That means nothing for the following year or the year after that.. It would be pandering to enthusiasts which would certainly be awesome, but is definitely not a viable business model.. And besides, the Grizzly is damn near perfect as a big single 700.. 4x as many people buy on the 500 class vs the 1000 class.. So the market truly isn't there.. I wish it was, I hope it comes back around.. That's why I make ATV videos.. I want people to be excited about them and help push the market forward..

@jonsatvoutdoorchannel6686

4 жыл бұрын

Dirt ObseXXion i hear you and I understand the numbers. For the record, I bought my 850SP for $8700 OTD. Granted it was an end of the year model but it has all the bells and whistles. I understand its MSRP is like $10,900 but still to say if Yamaha or one of these other manufacturers would be making a quad approaching 15k is wayyy too much IMO. The target should be around 12k or less. That’s quite a bit of difference. But anyways, my response to what you’re saying is just a different perspective. I agree with you more than myself on this topic but I’m trying to show the other side of the coin. Hopefully, and eventually, one of these 4 major brands WILL come out with something bigger. It’ll happen. Why not be the first one to do it? If you’re the ONLY Japanese brand to offer an 850 VTwin for under 12k which is quite a bit less than the 1000’s, you stand out. You have that whole market to yourself. I just think one of them eventually needs to grow a pair. You use the what if scenario a lot saying what if they make it and they don’t meet demand after the enthusiasts first wave goes by, BUT WHAT IF it’s a big hit?! What if they knock it out of the park? What if it actually sells really well? I wish they’d challenge themselves and adopt that line of thinking vs this ‘safe’ route. Just my 2 cents.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

@@jonsatvoutdoorchannel6686 Yep.. I paid 9900 for my Sportsman.. Less than the MSRP of the premium Grizz models..

This is the only person on the planet excited about a CVT lol

@jasonmorehouse3756

3 жыл бұрын

wrong. once you use a yamaha cvt, you will understand

King quad 400 2005 is my favorite Utility fourweeler

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Nice!

Who would buy a four wheeler without a diff. Red flop still selling like hot cakes.

love my 09 brute 750, wish it had eps though.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

I like the Brute too! I wish Kawi would give it some well deserved TLC...

@SuperReddog17

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion ya the improvements you said they should do sounds great, hoping they give the teryx some more power, along with more ground clearance and more travel. mud edition would be nice to lol. loved the video good job .

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Well hopefully we see that Kawasaki Sport SXS soon, that would be great! Those would be easy changes to the Brute that would keep it competitive IMHO... Thanks for the support!

Griz is my first choice. Kingquad 750 2nd. Honda 3rd. Brute force dead last, nice but blow up to often.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Right on! I've never hear of a Brute blowing up.. But I don't see many around anymore either..

@endurotruckererniedesjardins

5 жыл бұрын

My friend owns Nick's cat house. Lots blow up. The older 650s were really bad and the 750s also blow up. I know a few guys who own them. If they ride fast for any length of time the crankcase oil finds it's way into the air box then is sucked through the engine. Keep a close eye on oil level and clean the air filter after every ride or they will start to smoke then lose compression.

@utahwanderlust700

5 жыл бұрын

enduro trucker Ernie Desjardins You're so full of crap it's not even funny. I've got over 18,000 miles on my kawie vtwin, and it's been awesome. Just pulled it apart last month to fix some valve seals that were leaking, and my conn rod bearings, crank bearing, and timing chains showed lots of miles left in them. The 650 vtwin from Kawie is one of the best engines ever put into an atv. That's why Suzuki and Arctic Cat used them in their quads too.

@billyboots3730

4 жыл бұрын

@@utahwanderlust700 what suzuki used a kawi vtwin?

@utahwanderlust700

4 жыл бұрын

Billy Boots Suzuki Twin Peaks 700 was a Kawasaki Prairie 700 with a just a Suzuki badge.

Love my king. Does well in every aspect.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@ChuckBeefOG

4 жыл бұрын

I just bought one yesterday.

I think the arctic cat 700 would be up there as well

@jasonmorehouse3756

3 жыл бұрын

hardly...it would maybe place 8th

Yamaha is a great machine

Sadly I know nothing about the atv market.. Always liked the looks of the Kingquad tho.. with a decent tire set up they look bad, dont go thru much but look the part Haha.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Nothing, really? I thought all Canadians were born with a CanAm rebate HAHAHA!

@PistNbroke

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion all those guys "stick together "

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@PistNbroke Hahaha! True

No one beats Honda's reliability. This is not for a drag race. It's a trail ride and I just trust the most reliable of them all. If Honda can come out with a better version of Rincon, more mainstream, then it's over for other atvs.lols

Polaris is having a fit right now

My Winner is King

@Icutmetal

Жыл бұрын

Ok.

I think the Kingquad is better compared with the Kodiak than with the Grizzly, though of course anyone shopping for a Japanese big bore is going to be looking at the King, Griz, Kodiak and Brute Force.

Honda Suzuki last longest. Yamaha n brute to but may need a lil. Rincon has no locking doff but has a hydrostatic trans

@jasonmorehouse3756

3 жыл бұрын

as for longevity , theses are all pretty equal, honda and yamaha top it

The belts and replacing the clutches 650.00 I have honda I pull ever1 out there belt starts slipping in Mudd and water. I know Honda is slow ,

Brute Force all the way. It's the only one on this list that's fun to ride. It also has the most potential to mod, easiest to tune, easiest to work on, best locker, best rear brake, and best racks. It's what you buy when you want the grin factor from the throttle lever, without the reliability issues of Polaris, or the constant maintenance of Can Am. Yes, the Brute needs a facelift and some new bells and whistles. Some company backing and proactive advertising would also be nice. But there is something to be said about sticking with what works from year to year, and ironing out all the wrinkles. All the Japanese companies seem to take that approach.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Welcome back man! I hope my love for the Brute came through... My argument is that slight attention, as in tires and shocks would thrust the Brute far into the lead! The Grizzly has configurations and options now... Kawasaki has the best platform, they just need to reach out and take what could so easily be theirs!!!

@utahwanderlust700

5 жыл бұрын

Dirt ObseXXion Thanks! Liking the channel. Yeah, I think you made your point just fine. I just can't get back onto a one-lung machine again, no matter how many other bells and whistles they give the rest of the machine. Twins for life for me! How awesome would it be if they dropped that sweet twin from the Wolverine into a Grizz! They'd have people lined up around the block to buy one!

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@utahwanderlust700 Very true about the 850 Grizzly... But they aren't going to do it... It would require too much re-engineering because its been designed around being a single.. Kawasaki should do it, the Brute is already set up for a twin, but Kawasaki doesn't like breaking new ground in the offroad industry..

@MarkThomas-uq8fz

5 жыл бұрын

utah wanderlust700 Don’t know what you mean about the CanAm maintenance, we race them in GNCC and with almost no maintenance. Every other Ute needs major modifications to compete and still don’t come close the CanAm’s reliability or winning results.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

@@MarkThomas-uq8fz I agree with you there... When I watch GNCC or extreme racing like Hunt the Wolf... It's all CanAm..

I'm curious why you chose not to include Polaris and Can-Am.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Japanese big bore comparison... We have the Sportsman 1k and Outlander 1000r... We did a comparison out on the trails between those machines

@JasonLee-qj8ts

4 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion oh ok... just getting into ATV.. you're videos are helpful

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasonLee-qj8ts Glad to hear it! If you have any questions feel free to ask... We've got experience with all the major brands..

@JasonLee-qj8ts

4 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion pretty settled on Yamaha... i really like the 2019 Kodiak 450 SE in Blue

@JasonLee-qj8ts

4 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion the plan is to start with the Kodiak 450 and then the Grizzly special edition in the same blue color and then get the matching Wolverine x4 also. That way my wife and I would have our own individual quads and we would have something to take the whole family around in.

Love my 2007 brute force 750! Just put a lift kit on it yesterday. I really hope they make a 1000 real soon!

@yousad6742

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2” lift with 1” wheel spacers on my brute. She’s a beast.

Yamaha power.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Yammie pie!!!! Thanks Wayne!!!

@northcountryoutlaw9704

4 жыл бұрын

Thinking about getting a new kodiak 450

I agree with everything, but I think the kingquad beats out the brute force on everything but power.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I could get behind that assertion.. I haven't been on the new King Quad, but all the reviews were consistently saying it was marginally updated.. Still a great machine, they all are.. We have the Sportsman XP1000 and the Outlander 1000r because we're just power loving trail riders..

@jasonmorehouse3756

3 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion you have a canam and polaris 1000 and still did this ved? hitting it almost spot on...(KQ over BF all the way) very respectful not bashing the 700 class. i'm very impressed. great job. hard to find unbiased reviews. I grew up on honda 3 ad 4 wheelers...but I'm team Yamaha Kodak now, love my 18 708 SE

@DirtObseXXion

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonmorehouse3756 We've had a Grizzly and the Brute, and a bunch of other machines for that matter before we started the channel. We're fans of all ATVs

Every time I have an idea Dirt ObseXXion has already done it....BETTER!! You guy's rule!!

@DirtObseXXion

3 жыл бұрын

F it... Do it again!

@quadbilly2106

3 жыл бұрын

You guy's have no idea what your encouragement means to me!! Thank you again!

Brute force forever

@Joe-mp4nw

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah bro!

❤ the video. Omg Neil Degrasse Tyson is awesome. I agree with grizzly is the best of those.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

HAHAHA! I love Neil! Thanks Carol!

The clear winner, Polaris!

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Someone knows how to read between the lines! Hahaha

I made a big mistake in 2015. I bought the Polaris 1000xp instead of waiting a few weeks for Grizzlies to come in. I should of waited and got my wife a kodiak 450 instead of the Polaris 400ho. 400ho has been good. The 1000xp Welllllllllllllllllll.

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Yammies rarely let you down.. Although my 16 Grizz had issues.. I think we've talked about it before tho.. Love my Raptor!

@endurotruckererniedesjardins

4 жыл бұрын

My 01 raptor was a turd. Broke 2nd gear, pieces took the teeth off the oil pump drive gear SQUUEEKKKKKKKK

Good review brother I enjoyed the side clips and commentary too🤣 I own a 2020 Teryx 800 and swear by Kawasaki and their 3 year standard warranty but those Yamahas are giving the Brute Force a run for their money. If Yamaha comes out with a V-Twin they will probably win me over. I just love the low end / mid range torque you get with the 'Saki. KAWASAKI IF YOU SEE THIS, WE WANT A MUD VERSION OF THE TERYX AND BRUTE FORCE WITH A LOWER GEAR REDUCTION LIKE THE COMPETITION🙏🏻🔥

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks brother! I do the news vids for ATVonDemand too, we're going to address the Japanese twin cylinders on that channel.. I agree, a mud version Teryx would be awesome!

@dannydonnatelli8502

4 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion good deal I'll subscribe to that channel too. Keep doing your thing bro much love from Texas🤘🏻🇺🇲

@DirtObseXXion

4 жыл бұрын

@@dannydonnatelli8502 truly appreciated brother!

Hope matt puts a big turbo on tha green machine

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Matt would kill himself with a turbo, he's scary enough stock!

@ryanhill5618

5 жыл бұрын

@@DirtObseXXion yea he is wide open 4 sure

I have tried them all and I agree their Grizzly is best to ride. The brakes are problematic though, you will be changing pads far more frequently than the others because of the pathetically thin pads Yamaha use. I would have the Kingquad 2nd though, but otherwise I agree with you. Honda quads are ancient technology and not reliable these days either and deserve to be at the bottom of the list.

@DirtObseXXion

5 жыл бұрын

Very true, Grizz brakes suck, I had to replace them inside 500miles.. Thanks for the comment!

Fully redesigned in 2012 the bruteforce750. Funny Yamaha is unchanged as well dude

@jasonmorehouse3756

3 жыл бұрын

yamaha totally redesign in 2016, and the engine redesigned in 2019

@04tsxpower

3 жыл бұрын

@@jasonmorehouse3756 looks the same and same engine.....huge redesign