This review sounds like it was written by Apple.

@WalterKingstone

7 жыл бұрын

Or maybe he just likes it.

@achillesmjb

7 жыл бұрын

Really? The new one will fit "easily" where the old one would be squished when travelling?

@achillesmjb

7 жыл бұрын

Said it fit easily! So apparently not very tight with old one.

@ushira_dharmaratne

7 жыл бұрын

channel's name is "AppleInsider". if that doesn't tip you off, i don't know what will

@Anonymous-ql7gn

7 жыл бұрын

Obviously. All I hear is "the new one is better in anyways", you get a bunch of adapters with it, how fun is that

I recently bought the 2015 base model of 15inch. It is in like-new condition and comes warranty until August 2018! All for a whopping $1275. Best. deal. ever.

@GravyMovies

7 жыл бұрын

BRBallin1 where?

@BRBallin1

7 жыл бұрын

+Ryan Gravador eBay auction. Nobody contested me except 1 guy. Starting bid was $1250 and that guy made it $1275

@erinmok6334

7 жыл бұрын

Why 2015? Do you regret? Is it good?

@BRBallin1

7 жыл бұрын

No way. No regrets. I got it for a great price without paying sales tax. Macs typically last 5-6 years, at least my 13 inch MacBook Pro did. My last laptop was 2010 MBP 13inch. So I could probably assume that this one will last me 5 years. I love the soundless force touch trackpad, slimmer design, lots of ports, battery life, and most importantly the retina display.

@ViralTubeRecords

7 жыл бұрын

i got 2015 and i loved it highly recommended

Thanks for making me feel better for spending all my money on this..

@neil78b

7 жыл бұрын

LOL. He didn't even mention the biggest issues like touchbar display eventually failing or all soldered parts. Just wait until the ssd, memory, etc began to fail which they will, since they are all soldered on the board its going to cost about $1000 or more just to fix, there is going to be a crapload of pissed people.

@tonyhall06

7 жыл бұрын

LOL same here. feel much better now.

@XxInf3ctedxX

7 жыл бұрын

neil Everything you mentioned is a bunch of maybes. Sure, this MacBook has seen its share of hardware errors, but the issues do not affect a fast majority of users. Those complaining are being vocal about it, which creates the illusion that the issues are widespread. Some people just get unlucky and manage to get a unit with faulty parts. It happens, be it a Mac or a PC. Nothing is made perfectly. Plus, if the issues do prove to be widespread, Apple will surely launch an exchange program, as they quite often do with consistent hardware failures. For the majority of people, this MacBook will be fantastic, and will do exactly what they want it to reliably, and be a joy to use.

@neil78b

7 жыл бұрын

XxInf3ctedxX What? These things fail on every device because they can only accept so many read/writes and screen time... you can easily repair it on the older MacBook Pro or any other laptop but the design of this makes it literally impossible... You obviously don't know anything about electronics because this will affect everyone, its just a matter if they won't to lose that much money or buy a new one, either way its a lose situation because of this.

@edwardhwang6842

7 жыл бұрын

TheNoerdy1221 haha I have the exact same feeling. Seeing all the news articles and videos about how over priced and flawed the new MacBook Pro was almost made me want to return it. But in the end, it is an improvement over the last generation, just a pain in the wallet.

10% performance improvement, 5% portability improvement, and 40% price increase (including the adapters)

@simply6162

4 жыл бұрын

50 on average why u lie about 10 percent

@jlascala03

3 жыл бұрын

15% worse keyboard so that made up the ground to even them out

@m-stat9

2 жыл бұрын

2015 and 2021 models are the kings 👍 2016-2019 models are FAIL. No ports, no good thermals, but a dumb touchbar, butterfly, T2 and flexgate issues. 🤦‍♂️

2016 MacBook Pro is my first mac. It arrives Friday, hope it wasn't a mistake. Quick update for anyone that cares, the hardware was beautiful and it performed great, but I returned it and went with the previous years MacBook Pro instead. I just couldn't tolerate the lack of ports. saved $400 as well.

@ntinos2014

6 жыл бұрын

6644pmr how does the keyboard function after 9 months ?

@Astronamia

6 жыл бұрын

my first MacBook Pro was the 2016 as well and 5 months later, I regret getting this overpriced thingy with a Touch Bar thingy that I never use

@6644pmr

6 жыл бұрын

ive had zero problems with the MacBook or keyboard, its been fantastic, so good that ive sold my iPad Pro because I never used it anymore.

@amoghpandey909

6 жыл бұрын

What spec 2015 did you get?

@prodsteez

4 жыл бұрын

How's your older Mac now

Buy the "old" one.. more power, more ports, cheaper.. etc.

@atticustay1

7 жыл бұрын

the new one has more power

@thesaxophonewarrior

7 жыл бұрын

with you on this, I just got the 2015 MBP

@RzRzenith

7 жыл бұрын

Me too! since two weeks, I love it, great upgrade from my 2011 macbook.

@thesaxophonewarrior

7 жыл бұрын

JIDK Productions super upgrade to my pimped out air and I didn't have to spend tons of money on dongles, I also saved 15 percent on my car.....with Geico.....

@shane9340

7 жыл бұрын

Chris Ward Should i get a MBP 2016 or Gaming Pc ! I don't really care what i do! Pc is more powerful but the macbook just looks so confy and looks nice ! The Pc will cost 1200€ and the MbP 1400€! What should i get..? If i have a Pc i would do the same things so as The macbook but also game and when i have a MBP i would do the same things like i'd do with a Pc just not gaming ! I can't really decide cuz if i get a Pc i want train my body and im scared i won't concentrate on my workout ! Imso fucking Confused!! anybody help !

Only a true Apple fanatic can assert that lower performance, lower battery life, more challenging IO, and a higher price tag is a recommended buy. Full disclaimer, I own a Mac Pro, MacBook Pro, and iPhone. I'm a developer working in a LAMP environment that uses apps that aren't supported on Linux, so Macs are my go-to for professional work. I've been using Apple products for nearly 30 years, and love most of my Apple products -- but I have no platform loyalty, and anyone that claims this is a better machine than the 2015 model has the wool pulled over their eyes. Can't play BF1 on Bootcamp on the 2015 model? Bullshit. I also own a 2013 model with a 750m that can handle most games. The assertion that lower performance in Geekbench doesn't matter because of throttling on the 2015 models CPU is totally anecdotal -- this doesn't happen in every use-case, and thus lower performance is going to affect you most of the time. Battery life is also abysmal, and is far worse than you've claimed here. My 2015 gets 7.5 hours of use in my normal workflow, the 2016 gets 4; that's a fairly drastic difference if you ask me. The 2016 MacBook Pro is the first MacBook Pro I've ever returned for a full refund. Put simply, it's so far from being worth the price premium, that it's almost laughable. Do yourselves a favor and find a 2015 model, grab some 3rd party upgrades from OWC, and wait for Apple to get their shit together.

@MrFefeleaga

7 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more. I've bought myself a 2015 mbp, and it wasn't even because of the money, it was simply because of differences in performance. I'd have preferred the 2016 model from an aesthetical point of view. It really looks so much better and I'd have loved an even better screen, but the shortcomings of the 2016 model are simply too much.

@Silverjerk

7 жыл бұрын

It was hard sending that display back, because it was gorgeous, and I loved the Space Gray finish, but at the end of the day it came down to the disappointing performance plaguing almost every other aspect of the machine. I think you made the right decision with the 2015 model. I hope Apple isn't stubborn, hears the complaints, and comes back next hardware cycle with something that is worth the investment.

@funkboylazar

7 жыл бұрын

I think they will respond to the complaints.

@erinmok6334

7 жыл бұрын

So. When will the next MacBook pro launched? 😁

@real_naiyas

7 жыл бұрын

From a personal perspective I will be passing up the 2016 MacBook Pro because, quite frankly, the chips in it are already far to dated to be worth the price premium and the battery I consider to be a weak point. I do however really like the slightly reduced footprint, weight, and the new port arrangement. I know many consider the ports being an "issue", but for me it is the perfect solution as I absolutely detest cable clutter and outside of the home or office the only dongle I use is a display dongle that I have had to use since 2012 no matter what computer I have had. For me if I have to take my charger with me on a day of business travel in 2017 then the battery is too small (yes, it has finally got to that stage where a "working" 8 hour battery life is a demand), then a portable product is failing in one of its main purposes for existence. Whilst I love the reduced weight and size, I am more than willing to compromise this a bit for a decent "working day" battery life. Until then I will be keeping my 2012 MacBook Pro as it has plenty of life left in it, and I can live with the compromises I have to have with it without spending a small fortune on a replacement with similar compromises.

this video is a lie, the new 2016 is having kernel crashes galore, and palm rejection software is UNreliable and its upsetting a lot of people

@Rebrutez

3 жыл бұрын

What else did you expect from a guy called appleinsider

@johnpodaras1780

3 жыл бұрын

I have a 2016, no problems whatsoever

@m-stat9

2 жыл бұрын

2015 and 2021 models are the kings 👍 2016-2019 models are FAIL. No ports, no good thermals, but a dumb touchbar, butterfly, T2 and flexgate issues. 🤦‍♂️

This guy is obviously biased. You can get the older model for 1500$ and have all the ports you want.

@GrimAbstract

7 жыл бұрын

himynameistim where can I get it st that price?

@darrenlo1321

7 жыл бұрын

The Apple store.

@GrimAbstract

7 жыл бұрын

Darren Lo no the Apple store has it for 1800 lol.

@darrenlo1321

7 жыл бұрын

No they don't...........not in Canada at least.

@GrimAbstract

7 жыл бұрын

Darren Lo here in US last year's model was 1800.

this video is a pure ilusion, buying a mbp 2016 is a non sense

man this is the best comparison video I have seen. It was something I really needed. Thanks!

please make comparison between 13 inch base models of 2015 and 2016

@EagleEyeHunts

7 жыл бұрын

I'd recommend checking out MobileTechReviews and Dave Lee for some comparison videos of the 2015 vs. 2016 MBP that don't come from a channel whose namesake encompasses the products being reviewed.

Thanks for this one. The best overall comparison between these two I've seen yet.

@piotrmotyka1004

7 жыл бұрын

agree

@PedrinbeepOriginal

7 жыл бұрын

+1

I keep seeing these "The macbooks had the best speakers and it's still the best" Seriously WHO buys a laptop while considering the speakers? I'd get it with any non pro line...

Wow! Veeery well scripted man, tks for this wonderful video

Thank you by far the best explanation and review yet. I'm getting my first MacBook Pro and I was debating which one to get but now I know! Thank you!

Really helpful. Thankyou!

So this is how Max got his start! Also interesting that the early reports on the 2016 were positive, including the keyboard and USB C only.

Great video. Very helpful and well made. Congrats.

Best review out there hands down! Great job

pity you didn't compare the 13.3" models as well, apart from that it's good informative video

Very informative video. Thanks

Dude you point out things that no other reviewer can. I think yours is the most valuable review so far online.

Great review man! this was so refreshing from the other opinionated and emotion filled reviews from other channels. yours was clear concise and had evidence to support all the rumours that were being spread. i also loved how you didn't fall into the trap of being overly emotive in the lack of ports and instead saw that realistically its not that big of a deal while still giving a good downside to the new macbook pro in the form of a lack of sd card. just wanted to say well done and you have earned my sub. nice work.

Excellent review! Thank you! 😊

Nice vid, is that your S4 or RS4 on the wallpaper if so great car bro. I'm impressed with the overall footprint of this machine as well, for a 15 inch it is very portable.

i found this review on recommendations... i thought he was going way more positive compared to rest of reviews i saw so far .. then i checked channel name..... ...

I just got a 2016 one now in 2023 and it still runs fine. That just shows how good these laptops are!

What are the specs(cpu,ram,gpu,hdd,price) of the two mac books used in the video ? in both models we have many options. It would be great if you put that in description.

Great Video, really helpful

very nice video thanks man

This simply cant be right..there are loads of reviews complaining of things wrong with the 2016 including loud fans and overheating, yet rarely anything but praise for the 2015...

Decent review overall, but I just want to give everyone some clarity about the limits of charging it with the power bank you showed. What you showed is the Anker PowerCore+ 20100 USB-C and it is rated at 5V 3A Max Output (15 watts) for charging, while the 2016 MacBook Pro utilizes a 87W charger. So it is true that you CAN charge the 2016 MacBook Pro 15" with this charger, but that will only be if it is asleep, turned off, or perhaps running only the most basic of tasks. Otherwise, the required wattage is going to jump above 15W and the Anker PowerCore will not charge it and will probably power off itself as a protective measure. 15W is plenty to power and charge the little brother 2016 MacBook, but it will not charge and power the 2016 MBP 13" or 15" when they are running in a state that requires above 15W. To truly be able to charge and power the 2016 MBP 15", you can get an Omnicharge Omni 20 which can sustain 100W of continuous output which is well above the power requirements of the 2016 MBP 15" even when at full working load. I don't mean this to sound like an advertisement, I only wanted to make sure people are clear about that. I have videos on my channel about the Omnicharge Omni 20 and its amazing capabilities, check it out if you are interested folks, I use one to charge my 2015 MBP 13" with its DC Out Magsafe 2 cable and it works magnificently! :)

Ok so I need advice. I'm wanting to save for a new MacBook Pro. I can decide which Year though. I edit 1080p video on Final Cut Pro currently and do music and photo editing. I might upgrade to 4K later. I'm worried about the price and lack of ports on the 2016 model, but I don't want to buy the 2015 and then in a couple years have a old laptop again. I have a 2010 MacBook Pro right now. Which should I get or what should I do? Thanks!

Great Review Thanks!

Very good analysis. Thank you.

Nice review

Great review. Changed my mind a bit about considering thew new pro over the old or even switching to a Surface. I am still not sold on the touch bar. Like other reviews, I wish someone would make a lower priced model comparison, although I am glad you did compare a slightly lower priced model at least.

Outstanding comparison. Your speech pacing is a strongsuit,

Great summary!

Great reviews! Sorry if this has been asked already, but there are some reviews noting that the new Macbook Pro with Touch Bar is more buggy. Have you noticed this in your use of it?

it's funny to listen to the speaker part on a 2015 MBP :D

If I'm going to use my computer for graphic design, 4k/Video editing, and Photoshop should I get a *i5 or i7 processor?*

I would like to know when you buy an older model mbp, say the mid 2015 model, is the battery still good? since it has been sitting on the shelf or in the warehouse for 2 years. thanks

Hi AppleInsider, really really really great review! Thanks! I only have one question. I own a MacBook Pro Retina 15" Late 2013. (i7 4x2GHz - Boost up to 3,2 GHz, 8GB RAM, Intel Iris 5100). I'm photo editing 99% of the time and If I work on a few images in Lightroom, Lightroom often has to load the picture (1:1 and smart-preview already calculated)... Will that be better with the new one or is it "normal"? And do you think, there's a big difference (in the 2016 model) between the 2,6 and 2,7GHz i7? Thank you very much.

Excellent Comparison. Much Appreciate It.

Do you recommend the MacBook Pro 2017? I'm worried about ports, I could buy the MacBook Pro 13" or the MacBook Pro retina 15", I need help!

Great review! Thx!

Being picky, it's not necessarily that the cooling systems performance has increased, but the TDP or heat output of the parts inside fell. They went from 50W to 35W GPUs. The cooler for all we know may be breaking even with the old one, or may be designed for the newly lower TDP.

Which GPU in each test machine?

Btw, had no idea Max worked for Appleinsider! Saw the channel under his own name first.

If you like the new one so much, sell me the old one. I'll gladly buy it.

@tomlam5241

7 жыл бұрын

its in good condition for $750-1000. -13 in. -128 Gb -Free case -2015 retina model

@HassanPoyo

7 жыл бұрын

Buy a new one for 999 or a refurb for about 799

You need to mention which graphic card used man

Oh geez wow. 461 score in heavenbench mark. I believe my razer blade scored a 1.8k rating. 14 fps is just unacceptable. The razer blade with a 1060 gtx was doing around 70 fps average at 1080p. Big difference in the gaming performance department.

@maxs8033

7 жыл бұрын

as usually

@ajwadsabano

7 жыл бұрын

I've returned my 2016 Razer Blade and got a MacBook Pro. Razer Blade's QC sucks.

@alexkelly5554

7 жыл бұрын

how so? thinking about getting one.

@ajwadsabano

7 жыл бұрын

***** I've returned two Razer Blades, and finally refunded it. I've had two BSoDs in only the first month, noisy coil whine especially in quiet areas, annoyingly thick bezels, short battery life 4-4.5 hrs under very light tasks, and the speakers were a joke when I compared it to the 2016 MacBook. Not to mention Razer is notorious to have a shitty customer service. P.S. My blade was the Full HD version because the QHD+ model isn't very well optimized to Windows 10.

@kabloosh699

7 жыл бұрын

4 to 4.5 hours is pretty good for a gaming PC even on light load uses. Sounds like Razer's customer service was what did you in here. To each his own I suppose. Surprised about getting blue screens. Haven't seen a blue screen on Windows 10 yet despite having 3 machines using it.

Surprised my Iris Pro only model gets ~25000 in GB4 compute, I expected this GPU to be more than only twice as fast.

FYI, when you're comparing color spaces, I'm pretty sure you mean the new MBP has 90% ARGB and 100% sRGB. You have the right caption on the MBP '15, though!

How about Adobe software such as ps & ai, witch one is better??🤔

What is exact spec of this macbook 2016 in this video ? Specially graphics card ?

Played with one at the Apple store while I got my 15" 2012 fat unibody fixed, loved it. the weight savings alone are worth it for me, screen is amazing and bright as hell, keyboard was surprisingly easy to get used to, took me like 5 minutes to adjust. Touch Bar wasn't necessary but nice for safari and such. MagSage and the SD Card slot are the only things I'll really miss, I rarely connect my iPad or iPhone to my laptop anymore and already needed an HDMI adaptor for my external monitor

im a photographer and i need a really good laptop for editing photos..because mine now i think is not accurate in color, i dont know?..if im editing my photos on my laptop and export it to my phone the color is totallyy different (in a bad way)..is it because of the pixel density?or my laptop problem?if its my laptop should i change to macbook pro..cuz they said that macbook has accurate in color..if yes, which macbook pro should i choose?2015 or 2016 without touch bar?so many thanksss if you replied this..

of all the reviews about the new Macbook pro, I liked this one. You compared fairly

@junaidseedat7852

6 жыл бұрын

Tumain Denes you’re another dumbass 😂😂

@danielgraham113

6 жыл бұрын

Then your level of intelligence is not that great. A real and fair comparison would look that the cost to improvement ratio. The cost of the new 2016 laptop plus all the extra connections to have it function as the 2015 model compared to the cost of the older 2015 model. And do an cost analysis of the total cost of the 2016 vs 2015 and the improvement of the performance of the 2016 vs 2015.

Let's remember it's twice the price :)

Professionals want usuable ports, not dongles. They also want usuable keyboards, and maybe they want to upgrade their storage

Were the performance tests for the 15 inch or 13 inch?

Watching this in 2019, force touch got so good it died...

Thanks for the Review! I watched like a tone of videos like this because I wasnt sure about things like battery life or overall performance! But now I definetly know, that I need to buy one haha

I have a 2012 Macbook Pro retina. But it begins to show it's age. I'm working with Logic Pro X and Final Cut pro X. I also do some photoshop and website developing. Would you suggest this Macbook Pro 2016? Or wait for the new iMac/ Mac Pro to come out ?

What will be better for Final Cut and Motion? The 2015 high-end model or 2016 low-end? Both 15 inches

Is the SSD on the nontouchbar model replaceable?

Really, really, REALLY great video!!

Thanks for this non-bashing and non-complaining video about the new MBP... so refreshing... They could really have kept the SD-card reader though...

@m-stat9

2 жыл бұрын

2016-2019 models were the biggest FAIL Macbook era of all times No useful ports, no good thermals, but a dumb touchbar, butterfly, T2 and flexgate issues. 🤦‍♂️

That cool beat playing on both 💻 book pros is called "Oh Wee" by immortal beats

Excellent video good job

Well that's got to be the best MacBook review I've ever seen

My decision is previous 15 inch MacBook Pro. Thank you 😊 for the video.

I am in the market for a new MacBook pro. My current one is a mid 2010 so it's time for an upgrade. I really like the new MacBook Pro (2016) But I cannot justify spending that much more money (For a decent computer, not the baseline) and dongles included. I think I'm going to go with the 2015 refresh.

Does the Dell thundebolt dock TB15 or WD15 work with the Macbook pros 2016?? If not are there any other well designed thunderbolt docks? I don't want to stick to dongles.

@connermurphy8059

7 жыл бұрын

TC royce you can buy pretty much any hard drive with a detachable cable, and later replace it a usb-c cable.

@tcroyce8128

7 жыл бұрын

Conner Murphy i was thinking about daisy chaining and also using my external monitor that has a HDMI cable. And i already have 2 usb 3.0 hard drives.

@tcroyce8128

7 жыл бұрын

***** Thanks a lot for this detailed feedback. Really appreciate it.

How is the MBP 15" 2015 about battery? Are there any issues or bugs as I read about the new 2016 with touch bar?

@real_naiyas

7 жыл бұрын

Many of the battery issues are a result of macOS 10.2 it seems. Unfortunately, most reviewers do not re-run their battery tests every time a new OS is released and so historic battery test results are technically incompatible with recent test results on newer OS's and models. I haven't done any tests myself, but based on simple web browsing, email and video playback battery tests the reviews seem to suggest the 2016 models out perform the 2015 models. This does appear to change when heavier tasks are performed (video transcoding, game playing, video editing, app development, photo editing, etc.) as the bigger battery in the 2015 model has more "juice" and so lasts a bit longer than the 2016 model.

How much smaller in size is the newer model to the mid 2014 model(A1398)?

Best overview on KZread.

there are seriously people out there asking for dirty dust collecting sd card slots.. incredible

It really bothers me that the light apple logo is gone and magsafe, the two most stand out iconic parts of the laptop is now gone..

the question is which models are you comparing?

What GPu And spec. Was tested. Link below does not help.

guys, should i rather buy the 2016 mbp without touchbar or the 2015 mbp with 256gb?

I still have my mid 2015 MBP. I haven’t been convinced yet. Maybe in 2018.

Hi i have 2016 radeon pro 450. ,something is wrong with my mac maybe? In geekbench 4 compute test i get just 33000-35000. Even radeon m370x scores more.maybe i get defected machine? Thanks

Where can i find a new macbook pro model 2015 in the USA !!

Tht beat was fire!!

well detailed reviews! one issue I see is you really didn't cover the negative issues. that makes this review seem absolutely bias review. again, great review! :)

Fantastic review

Help Please, How about flexgate issue since used Macbook pro 2016 ?

93 degrees celsius? So you can’t touch that thing without getting a second degree burn?

@jadenkrause1015

5 жыл бұрын

Haha yeah bro that's about 200 degrees Fahrenheit

@magnus49

5 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he's talking about processor temperature as reported by temperature sensors, not the temperature on the outside of the laptop...

fuck that shit im happy with my 2015 macbook pro, man is a beast

Comparing the 2016 macbook pro 13" non touch base with 2.0ghz Intel i5 vs the 2015 macbook pro 2.7ghz or 2.9ghz , which one would you suggest has a better performance and a better buy overall . once I configure the 2015 model with 256 gb SSD the price difference between the two is only 100 bucks give or tske so a bit confused which one to get . pls help !

@AppleInsider

7 жыл бұрын

We would suggest the 2016 if you don't mind buying a few new cables and one or two of Apples USB-C to A adapters.

@adeel1113

7 жыл бұрын

AppleInsider thanks !

@drunkgirls111

7 жыл бұрын

The 2.0ghz in the 2016 is slightly faster than the 2015 but you won't see any difference unless you're using editing programs like final cut pro or adobe photoshop. Having had both, I went for the 2015 because I need the ports, I like the light up logo, mag safe is a premium and practical feature and although the new keyboard is really good, it's really loud. Best option is to go into the store and compare the two and see which one you like best.

@jaymills1720

7 жыл бұрын

Any reason why? It would seem the 15" 2015 would outperform the 13" 2016? I too am in the same boat :)...i'm leaning toward the 13" 2016 over the 15" 2015

@IRFAN-po5sz

7 жыл бұрын

so what you got ? 15 inch or 13 inch 2016 ??

Thanks for this comparison video. This should have done by Apple, to make buyers more secure of buying into this new environment. Well done! The USB-C thing is not a problem at all. The only thing is that 10h of battery life is not achieved with my MBP15". 6.5h certainly, but far from 10 of course.

How do you find your faster percent ?

@3:53 52% faster??? Uh what? Think you made a boo boo there lol

The 2016 may have quieter fan noise but not keyboard noise. It drives me nuts.

@5:14, where can I get that cable? USB-C male to USB male?