Probably the biggest advantage of the 2013 Civic Si over the 1998 Integra Type-R: you don't have to worry about your 2013 Civic Si getting stolen.

@TheColonelAngel

8 жыл бұрын

yeah?

@LowFlyinOK

8 жыл бұрын

All ITRs have been stolen at least once.

@TassieLorenzo

8 жыл бұрын

If only the 2012-2015 Si had stiffer suspension/swaybars. It's really not so bad. Easily fixable, thankfully. You can see on the specs that Honda stiffened this Si a little bit each model year, but if only they had the conviction to make it great instead of just ok... don't be afraid of building in less understeer, a little twitchiness sells OK for Ford... don't be afraid to make it firmer, a stiff ride sells OK for Mazda on their speed3. Would be nice if it had more of a sports seat too, something like the quasi-Recaro in the USDM DC2R featured here or something like you get in the GTI, which is the logical rival to the Si IMO, with the full bucket Recaro-style seat (which Honda do very well IMO!) saved for the latest Type R model.

@LowFlyinOK

8 жыл бұрын

***** - yous is won for teh lucky jauns!

@dickcheese4048

7 жыл бұрын

How do they even steal cars?

in mi opinion the 90's cars looks much better...

@pichum4st3r

8 жыл бұрын

+Emmanuel Velez I love 90's cars. They were simplistic in design thus timeless. A lot of these cars also begged to be customized and tuned. I find myself to be turned off by present cars. Maybe because I'm a bit hesitant. They seem less welcoming to me.

@Sam-vs5kg

6 жыл бұрын

That's probably because most of us grew up in the 90's

@Countrysideboy247

5 жыл бұрын

I grew in 2000 and a teenager aged 17 , but I swear 90s cars are the best in looks than even 70s or 2010s cars, 90s were a golden era!

@jayd2954

4 жыл бұрын

MOTOR HAWK car n truck enthusiast the 90s were nicer but 1972 below cars were 100% better lookin* than anything now and in the 90s and I like cars in the 90s more but the 90s are better than any car 1973 above

@L00PdeL00P

3 жыл бұрын

@@Sam-vs5kg Born in 2005, I really don’t like modern car design. Pre-2003 was when everything looked right.

I'll take the integra type R anyday.

@versaboss2389

9 жыл бұрын

Silveradoman61 still got nuthin on Nissan. at th time we were makin the gtr these Honda clowns was makin this, my versa cud smoke one cause we got lite wait.

@KardiFan2000

9 жыл бұрын

Versa Boss What's your point? When the R33/34 was in production, Honda still made the NSX and they just released the S2000...I would take either of those over any Nissan.

@versaboss2389

9 жыл бұрын

KardiFan2000 kik yo ass

@KardiFan2000

9 жыл бұрын

Versa Boss ok? lol

@dreray4077

9 жыл бұрын

KardiFan2000 Really? An S2000 over an R33 or R34?....Nsx i can understand, I wouldnt, But can understand, But n S2000?....

One of the best things about the Integra Type-R, the shock of passengers when they find out there is no vanity mirror! :D

@USCisgay

10 жыл бұрын

or how surprisingly slow it is when you are pushin 8k

@TheBb6prelude

6 жыл бұрын

SOCAL3800 these cars can get super quick around a track with very minimal mods. You should check out best motoring.

@TheFreshPeddler

4 жыл бұрын

@@TheBb6prelude i like old hondas (newer are mostly shit) but "super quick" around a track with minimal mods they are not. That includes the type r. A decent runner on a very tight course or canyon but its never going to be a 911. Modern fwds are better but its still a limitation in track times maybe with the exception of single axle rally/ cross. The new type r is impressive on track...for a fwd...and until it stops and you get a better look at that ugly rear. That type r is a beauty though I doubt I could bring myself to track one.

Breaking news. The type r was stolen after this video shoot. Haha.

@TheColonelAngel

8 жыл бұрын

are integras easy to steal?

@itomas13

8 жыл бұрын

+TheColonelAngel They aren't any necessarily easier to steal, but the demand for the B18 engine attracts thieves. They respond well to turbocharging and take abuse like no other. My B18b has always been there for me ^_^

@Kdawg000

7 жыл бұрын

Very easy. Way too fucking easy. If you want a new generation vehicle (i.e. 2013 and newer, with fun ass bells and whistles, and good on gas but can shred on the highway) get the fucking FIESTA ST.

@manuelarreola996

7 жыл бұрын

Kartik Surugucchi shut up about the ST

@thewackypanda1448

5 жыл бұрын

@@Kdawg000 ule get smoked by the integra

I don't wanna drive a spaceship with all those electronics and shit. I want the car to actually have a soul, I'd pick the type R any day lmao

@Kdawg000

7 жыл бұрын

Bruh. Just get a fucking Fiesta ST. Problem fucking solved.

@MechaTronic161

7 жыл бұрын

Kartik Surugucchi Ford Fiesta is so fucking ugly, just another Honda Fit wannabe. Please stop convincing other people to buy it.

@Kdawg000

7 жыл бұрын

The Fit is garbage and the normal Fiesta is worse. The ST is a completely different animal. I will continue to convince people to buy an ST. I own a CR-Z now and I miss my ST.

@jdmnsxr6820

6 жыл бұрын

Kartik Surugucchi tbh it's ugly as fuck though so sorry lol

@sunzoutgunzout8887

6 жыл бұрын

st is so ugg

Civic Si has 201 horsepower from 2.4l 4 cylinder. Integra Type R has 195 horsepower from 1.8l 4 cylinder That's 15 years of evolution...

@jasons4950

8 жыл бұрын

+Jim K and the 2.4 makes way more torque, and requires less shifting to cruise around.

@TLEE1977

8 жыл бұрын

This evaluation is ridiculous. Even back then you don't compare an Si to a Type-R. They even said this was an apples to oranges segment; this was just for fun.

@milkcollins4764

8 жыл бұрын

+Adrián López You mean Donald trump is going to be president?

@TassieLorenzo

8 жыл бұрын

Actually, most of it (same for most modern cars) is structural reinforcement! With the reinforced pillars (for roll over protection), side intrusion bars, and other reinforcements (for frontal offset test etc) of a modern car it's almost like modern cars almost have a quasi-roll cage built into them... they are much, much stiffer & safer than older cars.

@Soho-Fart

8 жыл бұрын

i'm pretty sure the new civic type r would destroy the integra in every racing aspect except that 90s vibe :P Don't get me wrong though i love my integra ls and all 80-90s stick cars. They were more simple and more customizable.

I do miss those 90's Hondas. Light, responsive, no frills... not looking like spaceships is also a plus for me.

@silverdetox

8 жыл бұрын

exactlyyyyyyy.

@ItchyKneeSon

8 жыл бұрын

+David Hoffnung You should look into importing a Today, Logo, or Beat. ;) My daily's a 660cc Today with a carburetor and it's really fun to toss around. If you're in the US, the fun kei/'light'/mini cars are becoming easy imports/classics in the next couple of years. The Diahatsu Mira, Suzuki Alto (Works edition), and Cappuccino are a couple competitors that are just as fun.

@koopatroopa187

8 жыл бұрын

As someone who has lived in Japan for a very long time, I can't understand why anyone would ever go through such great lengths to own a kei car.

@dhoffnun

8 жыл бұрын

koopatroopa187 Right there with ya. I could understand if there were tax breaks like there are in Japan - or specialized parking like there is in Japan... but most other places it just makes no sense. "Subcompact" is small enough for me - ha!

@koopatroopa187

8 жыл бұрын

David Hoffnung I had a 1989 Alto Works RS/R. It was the most legal fun you could ever have in a car. You'd be pegging the 10k RPM rev limiter, rowing through the gear box, shifting into fourth out of the turns, and then look down and realize you haven't even gone faster than 60 KM/H. Seriously, it was like a BTCC race just to keep up with traffic. It was a blast to drive and it's probably one of the cars I've owned that I miss the most, but I wouldn't pay anymore than what I paid for that car and that was $1,000. The Honda Beats and Todays though, those things are just garbage. I could get on board if he was talking about an Autozam, but a Today or a Cappuccino? Fuck that. Plus those old kei cars have skyrocketed in price. Long gone are the days where you could get one for a grand. Nowadays you're looking at paying over 5 grand for a 20+ year old POS that makes all of 50hp and handles like crap.

still mad at honda for completely killing off the integra DC's and focusing everything on the fuckin civic -__-

I take the type r in a heartbeat

Type R is legend. Quite easily the best performance FWD Honda made, if not the best FWD ever.

@sonnyswann2247

10 жыл бұрын

ryan hart no such thing as a DC3 there buddy.

@alexcheetah79

10 жыл бұрын

Sonny Swann DC3 is a plane.

@sonnyswann2247

10 жыл бұрын

Alexander Est It may be a Plane but its an integra, or a honda car (Acura included) for that matter.

@hartsickdisciple

10 жыл бұрын

I'd love to have the Type R for sure. I really want to see someone take a Focus ST around a track versus a Type R. IMO 2 of the top 5 best-handling FWD cars ever.

@cr2nr

10 жыл бұрын

hartsickdisciple someone should do that kind of videos ! ! yeah

Ohh the 90's, back when Honda cared about what they built.

I would still choose the ITR over that new civic

@Kdawg000

7 жыл бұрын

Fiesta ST

@darlinejean5575

5 жыл бұрын

Honda crv 2000

@jacobmarleyklm

5 жыл бұрын

@@Kdawg000 Ford is junk.

The Integra Type R is the most fascinating road car that I've ever driven and I will regret selling mine for the rest of my life. This car makes you feel like a professional race driver and it doesn't need a meter for the Vtec, you can hear and feel it from 5800 all the way up to 8970 Rpm.

The 05-06 RSX-S was Honda's last powerful FWD vehicle. The Si that came after is just a shadow of the RSX.

@chakadoll9

10 жыл бұрын

NOT TRUE LOL you dont know shit about CAARS BRO LOL. BWAHAHA

@ThisisBrak

10 жыл бұрын

eggz Well I appreciate that you disagree and that you may be correct about the matter but could you please provide me with some facts and data that would prove me wrong instead of insulting me? Time to put on your big boy pants on and provide some reason...

@ajvangorden1344

10 жыл бұрын

I agree. Don't get me wrong I have an 08 Civic Si sedan and I love the K20 and I love my car. But the guy in this video even said it. The newer Si's don't make the power they should compared to the Integra Type R. And I almost was able to buy an RSX Type S but it didn't happen. They should be making at least 220 HP out of that 2.0 L k20 to compare to that 100 HP per liter. Honda is starting to lose to their competition.

@LILGE510

10 жыл бұрын

i agree. I also think that the rsx-s/integra r dc5 is one of the last great looking hondas they made, in my opinion. but the new si doesnt look too shabby!

@agcbass

10 жыл бұрын

I prefer my Si with its limited slip differential to the open diff in the RSX. I love both cars, but my 4 door Si (Hondata tuned) is much more livable and probably just as quick.

Take this from a current 2013 Civic Si owner. The car is great as a daily and with just tires, is quite fast on track. I've been to 2 track days and have had guys that had an M2, M6, newer Mustang GT with 400HP, and even an RS3 come up to me with amazement with how fast I was taking corners. Some even had problems keeping up with me on track. What am I getting at? The comparison between this car and the Integra Type-R are just what they say, apples to oranges. But tire choice is also a huge factor in a car's handling. Running just 1 sec slower than the ITR on all seasons is actually not bad at all. With summer tires, they truly show what the car is capable of and with some serious extreme summer tires, they're a completely different car that can hang with much higher priced and higher HP cars. Currently have RE71Rs on my car and daily on some cheapo all seasons to get to and from track.

@phiNjustin

2 жыл бұрын

Throw a turbo and a good set of tires on any 96-00 civic you would probably get the same results.

I miss my Integra. It was my first car and I had bought brand new. I have had many cars since then and still miss how connected to the road it felt. When the Vtec kicked in it was like music to my ears. With a few go fast goodies it was also quick. As they said in the video the cars back then were built to drive and were not filled with electronics. They were also easy to work on and quite reliable. I am worried about the new cars when they reach 15 years old like that type R. Will it even be worth fixing them or will we just have to throw them out or live with half the car not working? lol...

just noticed that this is Dave from now speed academy.

@AutoGuide

8 жыл бұрын

+doughboi48 He gets around.

@kamsmx696

8 жыл бұрын

+AutoGuide.com could you review the 93-97 mazda mx6 ls v6?

I'll take a Type R any day over that Civic SI!!!!!!

Integra Type R, still one of the most beautiful cars ever made!

That piece of crap civic wallows around like a drunk elephant. And that ridiculous power meter and vtec light...what a joke. Integra by far for me.

@dadisi09

9 жыл бұрын

You are correct, but you know you want that power meter, I do. They have those in supercars. I want to know how much HP I'm using and how many G's I'm pulling;^)

@nickmotsarsky4382

9 жыл бұрын

***** vtec light is always a joke, but even more so in the new SI where the redline is low and power doesn't have a noticeable surge.

@Kdawg000

7 жыл бұрын

Or or or or a FIESTA ST

@TheBb6prelude

6 жыл бұрын

Kartik Surugucchi nobody cares about that car on a Honda video

@danfonacier6707

5 жыл бұрын

Dont know about you guys but my 2012 si is the shit

I'v never been a "Honda Guy" at all but I have always had a lot of respect for the their great 90's cars. It is a complete shame to see how far Honda has fallen in the affordable performance car market. The modern Honda's are all hideous boring commuter cars pretending to be fun but they are like soulless zombies of cars. Unfortunately that seems to be quite true with most affordable cars now, regardless of the brand. There are dozens of amazing sports cars from the 90's up to the early 2000's that the average person could afford. They were simple, great looking, reliable, and fun to drive. Over the last ten years the only true sports cars that are even worth paying attention to are all $40,000 or higher (mostly higher). I'm not a big Mustang fan but the current 5.0 is pretty much the only sports car I can think of that you can buy new in the sub $35,000 range that I would genuinely consider. Otherwise you are far better off searching for a very well maintained sports car from the 90's to early 2000's. You will save tons of money even after spending a little to fix a few of the worn out bits and even adding a few upgrades and still have just as much (or more fun) in the car for half the price of a new version.

@whoobibi

8 жыл бұрын

+Bones12x2 You can blame government regulation for this. Once, Honda was able to build lightweight, inexpensive cars with powerful, cleverly engineered small engines that gave great power at some small cost to their emissions. No more. Now, safety and emissions regs are turning cars into expensive tanks that have to have large engines to get any decent performance.

@NuclearIsShit

5 жыл бұрын

@@whoobibi my mom drives Mitsubishi Eclipse GT and that car rips. 270 plus hp, and unique interior. Too bad they stopped making it.

@hotcock4813

4 жыл бұрын

@@NuclearIsShit What year?

I love this video. I wish you guys made more old vs new videos

acura integra type r's never had the momo steering wheel only Honda badged integra r's did.

Just watched the 2017 Civic Si review. I would still take the Acura over that 2017. And the Acura is STILL FASTER and Lighter 20yrs later !!!!! The Acura is that good.

I'm not even the biggest fan of Honda (exception for the S2000 and NSX), and even I would take the Type R over that puny little Si. The Civic is ugly as *SIN!* Honda these days, are too busy trying to appeal to old people and college chicks,

@CrazyForCooCooPuffs

10 жыл бұрын

true

@opmike343

10 жыл бұрын

Most Japanese cars stopped being interesting to me somewhere around the late 90's. The new Civic SI feels like an minivan compared to the more hard edged Civic and Integra performance models from years past. Oh, and they had double wishbone suspension up front as well. Look at this 2013 SI wobbling and heaving itself around a track. Looks like an obese man trying to run track. Oh, and an engine power gauge? Seriously? On a 200hp FF car? Who gives a shit. Gimmicky cars with a bunch of useless gadgets that I won't be able to fix in my garage and what dealer will charge me out the ass to fix. There's a purity in many of these older cars that I miss. But I guess everyone wants their plushness and luxury amenities these days.

@jordanscotti6332

10 жыл бұрын

i'm a huge fan of the older hondas from the 90's-mid 2000's but now they look like shit

@USCisgay

10 жыл бұрын

90s integras and civics appeal great to car thieves

@apmirkin

10 жыл бұрын

Honda is busy trying to fit within the emission laws.

I used to work in a Acura dealership at the parts dept. And i remember the mechanics they were so pleased to work on Integras, especially the Type R and GS-R, they were so well built.

The Type-R was a very iconic car in the 90's, still today its my favorite Acura

No comparison imo, I'll take the teggy as is. No mods needed, keep it classy(classic)

@kibawhitefang7176

4 жыл бұрын

LoL Teggie. I knowww where that comes from 🤣

I would prefer the Integra over the Civic any day. It has a lot more character and it's more of a driver's car and less of a boy racer.

Another thing about the type R is the reinforced chassis, specifically the rear subframe which can handle larger sway bars without snapping the subframe off.

Top 10 best AutoGuide Video's brought me here.

I'm proud to say that I own an Integral type r 1998

@neilwagner524

3 жыл бұрын

I loved my 1994 intregra GSR . Perfection !!

8th generation civic si looks the best IMO

@spankthemonkey3437

4 жыл бұрын

thebills_1995 lol your just trolling 😉

We just found my brother in law a 94 LS with 260K miles (which runs like new) and it's in amazing condition. It's got lowered suspension, I felt like I was in a go kart driving around, it was a blast. I'm used to my xB and CX-7, so this tiny car is a lot of fun.

The new civic is horrible looking

@TheHondaTuner

10 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the new Hatchback?! THATS horrible!

@yagam1

10 жыл бұрын

lolz

@Sam-vs5kg

6 жыл бұрын

Oh sweet summer child.

the ITR will ALWAYS be my favorite FWD Honda.

@Loudest_Cricket_

8 жыл бұрын

Mine as well. ITRs are legendary.

@AE86ofMtAkina

8 жыл бұрын

My favorite will always be the CRX Si-R.

I drive a 99 civic si and I love it unfortunately I don't think I will be buying any Honda product next time due to the lack of style and total abandonment I feel they have given us here in the states. The new si is a terribly styled vehicle. I'm really disappointed in Honda.. Sad.

@Mmmedinas2k

10 жыл бұрын

agree a drive an 07 s2k often go to the dealer for parts and they ask when im gunna get a new honda i always ask when theyre gunna get a car worth getting

@hotcock4813

4 жыл бұрын

@@Mmmedinas2k Amayama is a good place for OEM parts for a good price.

I'm not really sure why anyone would consider the Civic Si to be "at the head of the class" at this point. Both the Ford Fiesta and Focus ST are better-handling. The Focus is faster and more practical, not to mention better-looking in my view. The VW GTI is also better, albeit a bit more expensive. I would love to have a 98 Type R though. Legendary car.

@vaporalley9104

10 жыл бұрын

there hothatches.... and the speed blows all of them out of the water

@hartsickdisciple

10 жыл бұрын

VaporAlley I'm interested to see the next gen Mazdaspeed 3. It should be awesome, considering the new platform. The one that's been out for a few years really doesn't touch the Focus ST when it comes to refinement, MPG, and handling.

@vaporalley9104

10 жыл бұрын

well thats all a matter of opinion. me personally i drove a genpu 2012 speed3, and the focus st. the only thing i liked better in the focus was the seats, but the lack of diff in the st turned me away from it as well as the price. the mazdaspeed to me is had a decent interior but i loved the tq steer coming threw the corners and you feel the 15psi come in and its like shit im in a pod racer. while in the st i felt just kinda like ok im boosting and shift as well as those stupid exhaust mics FACEPALM on fords end of that. But because my bank wanted to screw me on interest i choose neither so they win :(

@hartsickdisciple

9 жыл бұрын

***** The Focus ST is as fun to drive as anything. Certainly more fun than a Civic Si. How do you know that the Si is more reliable?

@hartsickdisciple

9 жыл бұрын

***** I've driven both as well. Honda vs Ford isn't like it used to be. That changed several years ago. Ford has improved, and Honda has fallen.

I love the Type R shift knob from the NSX. I had the same shift knob in my Integra, salvaged it from a junkyard Civic SIR :)

I am a Muscle car guy and will take any chance i get to punish some kid in a spring cut civic or a cherry bombed rsx or a body kit race looking integra. But i will give Honda credit. If they were to produce a V8 the way they produce their straight 4s, they would be unstoppable. I have a cobra putting out 390hp with a 4.6L. Do the math thats 84.7hp per liter, which in the muscle car world is very impressive. take the Integra type R at over 100hp per liter and thats just insane how efficient that is! The problem is however, without running any kind of boost, there isn't much improvement potential simply because of how efficient it already is. A $200 cam upgrade gives you 15hp in a Type R, whereas a $200 cam upgrade for me in my Cobra would give me 40hp. But ill give Honda the credit they deserve, I just don't understand why ricers always feel it necessary to race me in a 1.8L...??? Unless they are running boost and nitrous (that will probably kill the car in a years time), they will never have a chance...

Comparing a Legend in automotive history to modern garbage.

@rollthelosingdice

4 жыл бұрын

This the truth

DP. love it! your bringing the teggy back! #speedacademy

Wow. I’ve had both and they are exactly as you describe. My ITR was my baby - it was super raw and noisey and smelled like burnt fuel & oil My Si (same color btw) - very quiet and refined, not quite as fun stock to rip around and through the gears etc BUT the tq from the K24 makes up for its lack of high rev, putting around town it is an absolute pleasure to drive … #Vtecforlife !!!! 🤙🏻

apples and oranges. the type r is a race car, built for the street. the si is not. why didn't you compare the civic type r to the integra LS. would be the same thing. one is meant to race, one is not.

@musshwins412

10 жыл бұрын

sadly I think the 00' with the b16a would out perform the 2.4 I-vtec. they should have put the tuned k20a type r engine in the newer civics. that engine is much sportier than the 2.4.

@poophead9553

10 жыл бұрын

You are a complete idiot. Comparing a non-vtec Honda motor to a VTEC motor is much further off than the comparison in this video. Both of the cars in this video were built for enthusiasts. An integra LS was NOT created for race heads

@musshwins412

10 жыл бұрын

I see you never drove a integra LS. I owned one. there is a reason people frank the LS block with a vtec head. it makes better power. my integra LS would keep up with one of these vtec civic 0-60. whatever you say boss. I own a civic si. I love it. the initial comparison is silly.

@musshwins412

10 жыл бұрын

my LS would have beat that civic on that track.

@musshwins412

10 жыл бұрын

and my current civic would slaughter that 98 type r.

Good example of how a lot of manufactures are straying from their roots. A lot of new cars just don't have the soul the older ones did.

Just LOVE the profile and look of that Integra!

i got a old 92 da9 not as fast as the itr dc2 but its still shows where honda's focus was at 15-20 years ago. i love it way more than any new honda

Honda and pretty much all mass production car companies spend most of their resources building a car on technology. Pay attention to the next Honda Civic commercial you hear. Honda only mentions standard tech features on the Civic and mpg, that's it. Nothing about horsepower and handling. If people in the new car market actually cared about driving these modern cars wouldn't sell.

@sermerlin1

10 жыл бұрын

well before cars were way slower... and mentioning HP and speed was important... now every modern car packs 150 200hp and it's irrelevant because tech to build those engines is not so expensive and most of drivers can have 150-200hp car. I'm all about acceleration and top speed and more hp but you know most drivers only care to get from point a to point b... My uncle is exactly like that. He used the car (he gave it to me when i got my licence) to get from point a to point b he didnt care about speed and how smooth it feels and what not. (seat leon 1.6 petrol sounds damn sexy yeah it packs 105hp but it's still good enough for me as a beginner :D)

@fatboy19831

10 жыл бұрын

sermerlin1 No modern 4 under 40 grand can match the sweetness of the 1.8 in the integra type r. Almost everything now is turbocharged on the hot hatch cars. They just dont have the pipes or the top end of the R. Nothing in this class weighs anywhere close 2600 pounds not even my BRZ.

@powerbar118

10 жыл бұрын

sermerlin1 your car can have 300 HP but depending on the weight to power ratio, the HP will decrease. The integra type r is adored by many people because the weight to power ratio is really good.

@SickarioTV

10 жыл бұрын

fatboy19831 I agree a lot people prefer looks now.. Back in the 90's people went for raw power.. I own a 1996 GSR might not be a type r but the B series motor is what started it all for all you Honda heads . And opened the gates to all the other companies like Mitsubishi. Mtec ( if I'm correct on there variable timing)

@fatboy19831

10 жыл бұрын

***** The Honda heads really started in the mid eighties. I know. I was one of them. Honda had a 3 barrel carb back then. You ran on 1 barrel till 3500 rpm then the other two would kick in. Honda was like Subaru is now. A niche company that had an insane following.

No lap time comparisons...wtf. A bunch of blah blah blah and no facts. DC2 all day everyday. That era is gone forever. Civic looks hideous and is bigger than early Accords, thanks to these crash standards. I'd rather drive that TypeR anyday.

@camaroman101

8 жыл бұрын

+RC000E you didn't watch the fill video, the Type-R is nearly 2 seconds faster

@coopsnz1

7 жыл бұрын

Fuck government , ruining engineers lives to do what they want

i like these videos where you compare old and new

I enjoy seeing this! I like both of these cars a lot!

This comparison shows how much Honda has fallen off in recent years.

@fuknames2123

9 жыл бұрын

no... This shows a car Honda built for racing, vs a family car that Honda built. If they were to compare the Integra to a Civic Type R then the conversation could start. And at 306Hp The integra doesn't stand a chance. But say goodbye to VTec, since the Turbo overwhelms it.

@coopsnz1

7 жыл бұрын

blame regulations , 90s cars had more soul . After 2005 things went down hill

Gorgeous Integra

Integra Type-R... One of THE most iconic cars of the 90's. Gawd I miss those days. That car was so much fun.

My neighbor had a integra type R just like yours but 4 speed i never made an offer but one year I was driving home on my dirt bike and there's the scrap yard truck with the the integra on the back I couldn't belive the guy scraped it had been looking at it since I was 12

I love the Type R Integra. Gotta disagree with how you phrased some things. You made it sound like the 1998 Integra (type R or otherwise) was intentionally made as a pure driving experience car to the exclusion of technology. The car had things like cruise control (though, your car didn't) and an advanced stereo with separate tweeters up front. The car had cup holders and power ports as well. Things like navigation wasn't yet something to expect in cars. Bluetooth wasn't being used, and cars at this time and in this price range didn't include connectivity for external radio sources (iPods - Hell at this time most iPod connectors were through cassette adapters). The car had power windows and locks which both add weight over manual set ups. The car also had a dimming switch for the internal instrument cluster which isn't really required. It even had an antenna that raised or lowered to further help with aerodynamics. What I'm getting at is that Honda basically through all of the technology of the day into the car.

@yeedub

9 жыл бұрын

The Type R didn't come with cruise control.

@zero11010

9 жыл бұрын

I stand corrected. Did they reduce any of the other technology tools of the day? Maybe they cut rear defrost to save weight and lower the center of gravity? My point was the car basically had all of the toys of the day, and the car pretty much did. No cruise control to further connect the driver with the thrill of monotonous highway driving at set speeds, sure I get that. Porsche at that time was big on that stuff (it was dumb when they did it, too).

@KardiFan2000

9 жыл бұрын

zero11010 it didn't come with a sunroof either...most of the other Integra trims had one

@zero11010

9 жыл бұрын

KardiFan2000 I appreciate the correction, but it changes nothing about the intent of my statement. The Integra had most of the common tech of the day. The Type R had almost all of the same tech that the more mundane Integra's had. It isn't like there were lane departure warnings left out, or back up cameras with proximity sensors and trajectory paths, or bluetooth stereo options, or windshield HUD options, or navigation options or whatever else. None of that was even an option. The Type R basically had the tech of the day.Omitting cruise control doesn't change that, and omitting a sunroof doesn't change that (as neither were exactly considered technological wonders with each being much more than 10 years old in cars at this price point and below). The Ariel Atom, now that's a car that made decisions to not include "current" tech in efforts to lighten the car. Modern day spiritual successors to the Integra Type R (which may include things like the Focus ST) still include most current modern tech and conveniences. You have to take that with the understanding that it's still a fairly inexpensive car, so you shouldn't expect to see the latest and greatest tech from the modern S class Mercedes in it.

@inudude15

9 жыл бұрын

zero11010 You are correct, but then at least in the U.S. this was an Acura. A luxury brand. Type-R or not an Acura with roll-up windows, no A/C or radio? Not that they had to tone the car down but I think some concessions had to be made to let the car even wear the badge. And for that matter, living with an S2000 as a DD, Honda was very adept in the nineties at conceding just enough, leaving just enough civility in their sporting offerings to make them liveable and quality. Personally, I like a manual soft top. No heavy electric motor, and one less thing to break. But, I can't deny I probably use the top in my S2K even more than I normally would because even if its cloudy or threatening rain, I can pull over and have the top up in a matter of seconds. And the glass window and rear defroster, it's extra weight as opposed to a vinyl back window but if you drive the car in colder months, it's really nice to have. The heat and A/C is extra weight, but then the heat rocks which means colder days can still be top down days. And today for example it was hot driving home. I was comfy on the highway, but in traffic a little assistance from the air con was very appreciated. Radio too, with a UK mod my car sounds rather nice and doesn't drone, but realistically I don't get to wind it up all the time, or even most of it, so having some non-gasoline fueled music is nice. You are right, they could have really stripped the Type-R out, as they could have stripped the S2000. The S2000 could probably have the Type-R's 2600 pound curb weight if they had, but they'd have sacrificed the things that make the car enjoyable on a regular basis. And to me, that's one of the greatest parts of owning my car, I get the fun and the enjoyment on a daily basis...

for those who don't know, honda was still building civic type Rs from 2007 to 2013 (FD2), but ONLY for the japanese market... these greedy bastards I WANT a 2013-built civic type R dammit!

@jramc89

9 жыл бұрын

Have you seen the prices? I was planning on transforming an american civic into an R-type, but it would end up costing a lot more than just buying the car at the japanese dealer and importing it. Just so you get an idea, having the rear end modified to install the r-type headlights would cost over 1,000 usd

@MrGimmethreesteps

9 жыл бұрын

They sell the Civic type r in Japan, because of the engine displacement laws and taxes japan has. In America you can get a 2015 mustang v6 with a hundred more horsepower than the civic si and rear wheel drive for the same or less money. In Japan the mustang will cost you more, because it is taxed for its larger displacement. The Type r will cost a lot for the performance you get, but if you just love civics then why not buy a type r?

Indeed such a Huge list that I see these cars on the street everyday......

Look how much the Si rolls its hideous. I have a 99 EM1 Si and it doesn't roll that much

Since Honda decided to use a tractor engine in their SI they lost their ways. the Type R is by far a more enjoyable car for drivers.

I have a 2013 SI but that integra type R is too gorgeous. would love to drive one. I'm going to try to get my brother to buy it.

I just got a 2014 SI sedan it's nice but it could us another 50 ftlbs of torque and 50 hp. In other words a turbo. I traded a 2013 VW turbo Beetle which i liked but was having too many issues for being a new car which I knew would be costing me repairs down the road. So I got the Honda for reliability . Hope it works out in the long run .

wtf. it seems Honda is just dropping the ball in the performance area. I hate how they are soo focused on pleasing the old people driving their cars that they don't seem to wanna improve power in their SI's atleast. my 06 1.8 civic has less power than that 16 year old integra with the same displacement. wtf! the guy in the video is right the SI should be making atleast 240hp with the increased displacement. such a disappointment. I love SI's but the fact that a 16 year old integra makes around the same power as a current SI just makes me sad to think about. lol

@misegades

9 жыл бұрын

The problem is, Honda is building cars that they can sell. Sadly, people like us that care about performance and fun in a car are the huge minority in the overall population of car buyers. You can hardly blame a car company for building cars that they can sell a lot of. Unfortunately, most people that buy cars want electronics toys, comfort, room, quiet and could care less about performance, sound, cornering capability, etc.

@kami123000

9 жыл бұрын

yes it's understandable that they are making cars that they can sell. But that's where the different trims come in, DX,LX,EX are the low powered cars for everyday consumers, but the SI's performance inspired and pretty much everyone who wants an SI gets it for performance. They could do so much more with the Si than only make 200HP which the integra was making in '98. :( lol I love Honda they make very good cars.

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9 жыл бұрын

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@GibsonBuck

9 жыл бұрын

The next generation of the Civic SI, will have a new structure based on the Accord platform, the new 2.4 direct injection engine with 8 speed dual clutch with torque converter, same as in the new ILX and TLX but i hope with more power.

@dadisi09

9 жыл бұрын

Get a kpro aftermarket ecu. You should be able to squeeze out about 40 more HP. You might even get my old Hondata ECU stolen from my RSX-S. (At least your car's not a target, I had to take the 'type S' badge off so I can safely park in public)

Its funny a 98 Integra still looks good both in and out today 16 years later I still see them on street dont get it twisted the guy who drives a 98 is most likely making more money then the idiot posing in a BMW 3 Series

I wouldnt say that Si is a bad car, its just type R was way better for its days

1990s was the absolute best decade for cars. Like legendary. If i owned that 1998 Type R i would do a small turbo with low boost. Around 250whp

Why doesn't honda make a usdm Type-r Civic to compete with the evo and sti?

@intrikatekennels

10 жыл бұрын

I personally don't like the performance or looks of the new Civic Type R. But I think they've been planning to release one in the U.S. soon. I just don't believe many people would buy it considering most Honda enthusiast like me prefer the older hondas.

@Trussme96

10 жыл бұрын

True, but a semi-hardcore civic coupe/sedan would sell like hot cakes in Canada.

@chidorimendo

10 жыл бұрын

TyranitarComedian It's not that simple now a days. For example, today's safety regulations restrict to make cars that are pretty bare boned. And Honda is trying to catch the attention of a wide range of customers, not just car enthusiasts who wouldn't mind a car that is just a pure driving car. A pure driving car would generally be rough considering wind noise, weight reduction (less technological entertainment items), and hydraulic steering (electric steering more fuel efficient).

@chidorimendo

10 жыл бұрын

Ethan Dang Also, the older cars were more prone to car theft. Hence why insurance is so high on the older cars. Especially the integras.

@apmirkin

10 жыл бұрын

Well, Honda beats all manufacturers when it comes to reliability.

Cripes. You're on a track. Step on it and let's hear the cars do the thing they were designed for. An Accord is better for lumbering around like we see here... Nice comparison and appreciated, but a little more spirited driving would go a long way towards making this a more interesting watch.

Yes! A friend of mine owns one - a little too heavy to flick around like the old Civic SI's or the beloved Integras from the '90's but still far better performance on a road course then their current offerings!

The JDM equivalent of the Type R (Honda ITR) had Recaro seats, a much nicer steering wheel and a titanium shift knob. The front end was also much better looking with the one piece projector headlights. IMO clean and minimalist interior > interior cluttered with tech and buttons.

The new civics are ugly as hell. They look like a coupe version of a corolla. They were much better looking back in the 90's. Honda needs to stop making their civics look all "new and improved" and just design them to have that signature 90's civic/Integra look.

there is just no comparison, Honda lost their way, the new cars are horrible looking

I have a 12' Si and for commuting it's not too bad. In certain traffic situations, the torque of the car is great to have. BUT, like all fwd cars, the torque steer, especially in this car, makes it feel heavy on the steering wheel and sometimes is difficult keeping the car centered in the lane. The big reason why I went with this car, was my past Civic had taken a beating and is still running strong within my family. All my other past cars have had issues with the motor and transmission, so it's nice to not have to worry much with this car.

In the '80's and '90's Honda offered both HF and SI models of the same car and dominated BOTH markets - I still want that company back!

Who needs all that connectivity and Bluetooth bullshit. That Integra is the drivers car. The Civic is fat, slow, expensive, heavy, and gets shifty fuel mileage.

@LowFlyinOK

8 жыл бұрын

+Ron Towers - and the funny thing about that argument...a Bluetooth compatible head unit can be easily installed and have more usable/real world features than a late-model OE head unit.

i quit at "this car will drift."

@H23Scarface

10 жыл бұрын

definition of drifting: ''The art of driving sideways''. That includes all drive types. Sure FWD has the disadvantage since its almost impossible to keep sideways but the key word here is ALMOST.

Makes me miss my Integra soo bad!

Ok all the those bells and whistles are nice to have on a newer model car but in the end what is really important to me is how the car drives and handles

my friend just got a mint 98 integra for $600... Im jelous...

@Stylensky

8 жыл бұрын

+Timothy Reth ....I don't think you know what "mint" means.

@CrypticCorruption

8 жыл бұрын

+Stylensky No dents, no problems, and generally perfect...

@danielbenique1791

8 жыл бұрын

+Timothy Reth don't forget no engine no transmission no gas tank 😂😂

@CrypticCorruption

8 жыл бұрын

+Daniel Benique All its missing is power steering.

@danielbenique1791

8 жыл бұрын

+Timothy Reth lmao I was just kidding and that's not so bad just put powersteering I just bought one today for 1800$ it has a b18 i think gsr and the guy gave me another another engine and transmission for freeeeeeeee so I'm happy

The Integra Interior is really ugly and I feel very poor for teh Acura owners, because the Honda Integra R has at least Bucket seats, momo wheel and titanium shiftknob stock. This interior is just nasty.

@PhatMikeSP1

9 жыл бұрын

In 1998 that interior was considered very nice, that's 17 years ago. Compare any car interior from 17 years ago. I just sat in 2015 mustang gt and can tell you that the interior is light years better than a 1998 mustang

@TheHondaTuner

9 жыл бұрын

I dont think its nice for its time. Look at CRX 1990 SiR interior. Leather door panels, full leather seats with crx stiching, leather wheel.. much details and great quality. no noise after 25 years! my Integra R is make terrible nioses. i hate the door shut sound.. xD

@Ent3InTh3Hous3

9 жыл бұрын

PhatMikeSP1 Take a look into a BMW E31/E32/E36/E39, the interior still looks awesome, for their age.

@HienBuiMobile

9 жыл бұрын

The Intergra type had real bucket racing seats, I sat in a brand new one at the time and it looked fine with the stitching on the seats, arm rest, steer wheel and panels. Type R at the time didn't even come with AC to reduce on weight! For the most part all Acura at it's time and right now come with full leather interior excluding the Type R. My 97' intergra GS was slow but it had all the features without V-Tec. Right now, my TL 04 6-sp is a beast of a car. Acura will always have an advantage over the Honda over quality hands down.

@Seattle808

9 жыл бұрын

It's a race car, it's not meant for nice interior features, they also don't have sound deadening and a sunroof. Who bought this car for it's interior????

I must agree with the integra guy in this video. i don't need those HP meters or shift lights to distract me from driving, my cellphone does that already. i wanna focus on how the engine sounds, and how the ride feels. After driving my 01 civic dx for 7 months, I realise what minimalism of the interior can do. heck, even my windows are manual. i know it's a slow car, but it's my first car and it's got a manual transmission, not gonna race with it, but it's fun to drive around in.

I use to own 2 97 type r American and Canada model. It was really good car. Too bad it’s too expensive now and hard to find

lol this isnt even a real type R. no Type R recaros, no Type R wheel etc..

@ExciteLetsPlay

8 жыл бұрын

+LawKeeper93 Oh sorry, i forgot that you dont get real hondas over there. Just some basic shit with shitty engine in there

@ExciteLetsPlay

8 жыл бұрын

there is no good honda in america. not one.

@brucerexrode7031

8 жыл бұрын

+ExciteLetsPlay Really??? You are forgetting the S2000!

@ExciteLetsPlay

8 жыл бұрын

S2000 is not a good car. I normal man cant fit in there, and the car doesnt make the horsepower honda said it does. more like 20 less.

@brucerexrode7031

8 жыл бұрын

+ExciteLetsPlay I've owned two and am an average sized guy and it fits great, handles amazing, never breaks down, has a great sound and enough power. Top down is tons of fun. The S2000, along with my pickup makes for a good life. If the S2000 is not a "good" car, what is? Okay, my son drives a 2014 WRX hatch and that is also a great car!

1:15 Worst "reading" and most stiff delivery of a line I ever heard on a you tube car review channel. Dude needs major practice sounding more natural. "That's great Luke, but when I was young..."

In 1996 an Acura Integra GSR vetec won 11 races in row in SCCA's SS competition - That's what I call ruling the track!

2:58 Exactly !!! new cars have so much things that take you away from the DRIVE I stick with the older models. Always.

wow this whole video is boring. comparing two slow cars yayyy

@theCoachCGY

10 жыл бұрын

This video isn't boring because of the comparison. The two video journalists are amateur and BORING.

@guitarrocker427

10 жыл бұрын

True

@powerbar118

10 жыл бұрын

integra type r is a slow car? since when?

@guitarrocker427

10 жыл бұрын

since it came out. Lol. not saying it's not nice or anything because i wouldn't mind having one

@powerbar118

10 жыл бұрын

Nathan Koonce 200 HP with good weight to power ratio, trust me man it's not slow...

If youre stupid enough to buy the new civic si you dont deserve a drivers licence...

@misha2091

10 жыл бұрын

lol. you wont buy it, cuz you cant afford it

@LBCvalenz562

10 жыл бұрын

Luis Andrés falla González HAHAHAHAHAHAH afford what? 13k??? I'd rather drive a kia forte koup.

@misha2091

10 жыл бұрын

You mean 22k with taxes, lol. Get your facts right before talking.

@LBCvalenz562

10 жыл бұрын

Luis Andrés falla González WOW so people buying this piece of shit get ripped of for 22k???? BUAHAHAH thats ever more of a reason to think people are fucktards for buying these hahahaha thanks guy.

@misha2091

10 жыл бұрын

Piece of shit? ?? Really 200 hp, 180tq, lsd, bucket seats, sunroof, disc brakes all around, summer tires, and 150k warranty for power train (engine and transmission if I'm not clear enough). Find a car in that price range with all the features that an si has, once your find it, let me know. Ignorance is bliss -_____-

Great review. Both fantastic cars. I'll keep driving my 6spd CR-Z :)

wow i didnt know david from speed academy did auto guide

vtec are such weak engines. 200hp? what a joke.

@Tung--

10 жыл бұрын

220hp in a gutted out 94 civic could mop a used mustang gt...

@DylanBB18

10 жыл бұрын

I had a gsr 4 door integra with just a catback, cold air intake, stage one exedy clutch and flywheel....and some suspention parts.......I was keeping up with a v8 mustang........vtec is no joke lol

@2girls1freak

10 жыл бұрын

well he was obviously just toying with you because your ricer of a car is not worth a v8 mustangs time and gas.

@Tung--

10 жыл бұрын

Any mustang is a waste of time, any ford honestly...

@Tung--

10 жыл бұрын

I'm trolling you idiot hahaha.

I still own my 97 type r and have no intention of ever selling it. I just had to finally replace the transaxle but it is cheaper than buying a new car and it did have 127700 miles on it.

how does he have heated seats in his si. i have a 2013 sedan si without navi and mine arent heated

Integra Type R for life man. Love that car

I bought a beat up 98 Integra RS non v-tec 1.8 for $800. that car ran hard with almost 300,000 miles there was no sign that it had lost any power. I would buy a type R over an Si today. After some brake and bondo work on a rusty panel and a $10 short ram I sold the car for 1,500 after having it for 2 years.

SI is for commuting with occasional fun. Type R is for having fun with commuting as a tertiary objective.

The current Accord Coupe & 4 door was one of Car & Driver's 10 best in 2013. (RE: December 2012 issue) The V-6 is a powerful addition in a different class of automobiles. Unfortunately, like the newer Acura's, the mass of the V-6 above the front wheels can't be completely negated to produce the handling obtained in the 90's (US models) with the lighter V-TEC 4 cylinder cars.

I just noticed this was filmed at the Cayuga Speedway

I Love that Integra, such an amazing drivers car.