2008 Toyota Camry - Crank No Start / Diag & Fix!
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We have here a 2008 Toyota Camry that has a crank no start. The car arrived without a battery, and it looked like many hours of frustration were invested into it. Hope you enjoy!
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Wow, I couldn't stop watching this, I got this video randomly from youtube, and was fascinated to see how a real professional mechanic works. I Subscribed immoderately.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@diggsonpointe6141
Ай бұрын
More os a Professional automotive diagnostician than a mechanic
Super job!! My hats off to you,when something doesn't start, that what separates the great mechanics from the average mechanic!!! Keep up the great work,5 years from now you'll have 100000 subscribers,ill probably have 2000,lol!!!!
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for your support Jeff! Your channels doing great too, love all the reviews!
Damn bro. You went thru that schematic like a boss!
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Crazy Camry! Don't see PCM failures too often on Asian cars...except Nissan trucks LOL I've seen one Corolla bad PCM after it sat for months...was definitely hesitant to call the PCM but the data doesn't lie!
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
This was my first time on this age Camry finding a bad computer, I guess that's why they were $18 on eBay. I was really not confident it was the problem, that's why I checked it on the bench.
Love the way you explained what direction you are taking for diagnosis. Another awesome job
Now thats some advanced level diagnostic right there. Thanks for sharing the knowledge.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Glad to help!
Wow this guy is pretty sharp on Electrical Diagnostic probably the Best I've seen on KZread.
well done, took a lot to narrow down the problem, but one plug in module and vin reset and its running again. nice job.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks! I got a little off track because I didn't stick with my process, at least I got there in the end.
I like your problem solving pace and your ability to not stumble at dead ends. You should be a dad or a mentor. More kids need to learn from people like you
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Thanks! I don't know about a mentor but I am a dad.
Alot of tools u have that i need. Thanks bro.
New subscriber here. Diffenitely some next level diagnostics! I will bench watch all your videos. Cheers!
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks you, I appreciate it!
This is called step by step checking until you reach the fault. He is superb.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Nice Job! Thanks for taking us along for the ride.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks Brian! I'm a long time premium member on your website.
@BrianMann216
6 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics I appreciate the support! Let me know if you ever want to chat/ live stream.
If you connect the Godiag to the ECM and the blue LEDs from pin 6 and pin 14 aren't flashing, you do not need to check it anymore. It is simply dead. On some GM ECM models, you have to connect the accessory pin to 12V also on the bench. Nice video by the way.
Nice one 👍🏼 ! Thanks for teaching us !!
Your videos are becoming INTERESTING days after days. The secret behind it is you are showing full wiring diagram showing the WIRING DIAGRAMS very clearly. That is what personally interested me in your video. Good work bro!
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
So fast on providing site final conclusion, with fully equipped tools and knowledge. Thanks for thr videos, last 15 days we haven't get any videos from your end. Waiting
Thanks for posting.
Love the DIY light bulb cover ha
Wow, I'm actually learning from this. love it👏👏👏
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
Nice that is an amazing display of knowledge and use of an amazing tool.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
Amazing as always
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Crazy! Thanks for sharing this!
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
nice job
Really enjoyed watching this video. Thanks.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have a similar breakout box. It sure is handy I sometimes use it to catcha module that wont go to sleep/ parasitic draw.I just put it on and I check it occaisionally while working on other cars. Takes 2 seconds and you dont have to babaysit it. At least it will Identify which network it is on
Good work 👍
Damn good job young man
Good job🎉
great work Amigo htks for sharing
@advancedleveldiagnostics
3 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
Your the man
Experience diagnosis master mi respect para ustes
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
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@advancedleveldiagnostics
2 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
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Nice work!!
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Thanks❤
Very nice
Great video. I saw you in Schrodinger's box cs. 👍🏻
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Cool, thanks!
New sub. Amazing work. 👏
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Thank you!
Nice work brother👍
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks ✌️
New to the channel. Nice diag!
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks appreciate it!
x10 another great video always ✌
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks again!
"I hate after market stuff"! How true it is and I was saying that 45 yrs. ago. lol Nothing has changed when it comes to after market sh%t!
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
💯!
Lol i was just watching and i lost my patience i can only imagine you !
Great Job buddy, i like your diagnosis approach. Thanks for sharing your knowledge
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Thank you , new subscriber
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Appreciate it!
Great approach! I am interested in that breakout box...
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching! It works great for bench work.
@PhillipBailey
6 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics it looks like it would also be a great way to confirm a bad computer when we are not 100% convinced that it has failed. I ordered one off the Canadian Amazon site. Pretty reasonable imo. Thanks for the video.
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@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
job is professional
Excellent new subscribers
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
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Wow i got completley lost half eay through but thats soke serious skill can you give me any pointers as im starting intot he world of diagnostics where do i start very good video my man !!! 😊
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
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Super job dude! Helped me find the problem with my girls 04 Camry simple fuses n shit. Was having the same cranking no start. But what’s the coolent puddle at the bottom of the engine on ur vid there about 5 mins into video
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
I couldn't find what you were referring to, but the car was in pieces so its possible coolant leaked out.😀
Hi. Thanks for this great video. What does pin 14 and 3 jumping do? And where do you get like this specific instructions from?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
It syncs the Immo data. I've seen it in Service Info.
I really like your setup. You just taught me about wire piercing probe. Thanks so much I’m gonna have to get them. Who taught you all this btw? You seem like you got a phd 😂
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Thank you! after you pierce the wire cover it with liquid electric tape or clear nail polish so corrosion doesn't get in.
You're in the top 1% of real mechanics.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks!
Did this car come with an immobilizer? I’m having the same problem. I put the key in, car won’t crank or anything. I checked all relays and fuses and they are reading within spec no blown fuses. The cars radio, clock, a/c, power seats, and turn signals aren’t working, but the fuses are fine. Now the car won’t communicate through obd2 port with scanner and obd fuse is functioning. Do you think this could be the ECU/ECM? It’s a 2007 Camry.
I didn’t know you can just plug in ground to set diagnostic mode and it will reset Toyota new computer 😱 sooo cool
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
It works until the new system which started in around 2020, Then you need Techstream and do the ECU security key.
@sheerwillsurvival2064
6 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics ahhh of course. Thanks man . I ordered that tool from jarhead I’ve ordered from him before but missed the Toyota plug diag
@lakesautomotivediagnostics6509
6 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics so insure it is basically programming the computer to the vehicle?
greetings , can that leolov scope be use to check injector voltage waveforms ( with attenuations of course)
@advancedleveldiagnostics
4 ай бұрын
I never actually tried it, But I don't see why it shouldn't
Can you do a little video explaining the little jumper tool from Jarhead diagnostics and what its purposes? Thanks brother. And is it a Toyota thing or work on all vehicles?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
I'll make a video later, It's pretty much just a jumper for pn 13 to pin 4 on the DLC. It is for Toyota and Lexus. When you leave those pins Jumped it syncs the Immo of the car with the Module that was replaced.
@lakesautomotivediagnostics6509
6 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics sweet
Well explanation, what's the name of that machine that you used to test power
@advancedleveldiagnostics
4 ай бұрын
It's an H11 light bulb the case is from Jarhead Diagnostics. www.jarheaddiag.com/shop/p/highamptestlight
The only part got confused on is when you said that the control side of the relay that turns on first EFI2 is coming from the computer, then why further checks if the constant and ignition powers and grounds and comm to pcm are good? That should be enough to call a computer?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
You are correct, I was getting thrown off by the clicking in the fuse box and the aftermarket wiring. Also I've never seen a bad computer on this year camry.
I show you using wiring diagram in the scanner does this scanner have that drawing in it
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
No the diagram is on a computer, it's from AllData.
Thought this was advanced level auto.... ooops
all you need is a factory service manual or at least a wiring diagram of the exact year/model car. no need for an expensive scanner
Nice video!!!! I have the same little 2 channel scope. I need to upgrade the leads. Where did you buy the leads for the scope?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
I'm using Pico leads which I got from Jarhead Diagnostics, They are kind of pricey. www.jarheaddiag.com/shop/p/premium-test-lead-bnc-to-4-mm-3-m Hantek makes very affordable leads amzn.to/4ap0dFd
@christiancorrea8820
6 ай бұрын
Thank You for your response. I appreciate it.
What's jumper? How it helps to start engine? Thanks a lot.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
It syncs the immobilizer data when you change a PCM.
What does OBD pin 13 do? Is that Toyota specific only? Grounding it puts ECM is a diagnostic state?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
It's for Toyota & Lexus only, as far as I know. It syncs the Immobilizer to the PCM.
So was the old ECU broken? What did you do on the end?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Yes it was broken, replaced with a used one.
What do you call that orange tool where you used to jump pins 13 and 4? From Jar high???
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
It's from Jarhead Diagnostics www.jarheaddiag.com/shop/p/toyota-sync-tool
@kuripotech461
5 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics great videos sir. Also love your tools. Thank you.
Where did you get you re experience and or schooling to get this diagnostics skills?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
I have no formal training, I got started watching @scannerdanner.
The moment that I saw missing battery I knew right away it was a bad ECU… They fried it while trying to mess with the dead battery …
What is you don t like at this little scope or wish something to have ? Thanks !
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
I'm sorry I don't understand your question, can you rephrase it please?
@soptea
5 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics Like what could be better than it is : screen , battery life , etc ?
Is it correct to say u r using an external power and ground supply to c if the computer powers up and communicates? If so, why don’t u use the car battery to do the same thing? I will watch again and c what u did. Thank u!!
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Yes I was supplying power, ground and communication directly to the Computer. The tool I am using doesn't have an option to connect to cars battery.
Wow where can i learn how to do this im like a B level diagnostic i wanna get to this level
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
I started with @ScannerDanner, He teaches the fundamentals really well!
GREAT VIDEO ,,,, I ALWAYS ON JOBS LIKE THIS ONE NO COMMUNICATION , AFTER EVERY TEST I ALWAYS TRY CRANKING EVEN WITH THE ENGINE CHECK LIGHT OUT BECAUSE YOU NEVER KNOW OR JUST DO A BULB TEST WITH A SCANNER IF THE TOOL IS CAPABLE . YOUR TOOL SELECTION IS OUTSTANDING , I PERSONALLY LOVE THE WAY YOU WHERE ABLE TO JUST LEAVE A SCAN ALREADY IN PROGRESS WITH THE TOPDON NOT SO EASY WITH A LAUNCH . THANKS FOR THE VIDEO AND HOPE TO SEE MANY MORE .
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
Thanks! The Topdon has it's moods, sometimes it let's you stop and sometimes it won't😀
What kind of scope is that little blue 1 you use bro? If you don't mind me asking. Thanks in advance
@advancedleveldiagnostics
3 ай бұрын
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@lupedelacruz4152
3 ай бұрын
Thanks bro you are the best amigo G bless you
@advancedleveldiagnostics what was the little orange box you used to reset the computer, I am fixing a 04 with the same issues but I can’t find the name of the little box you used to do the reset with. My girls car been broke down for 6 months so if I can get that thing running again with a simple computer swap and reset we’d be golden, cus my Mazda has a busted head gasket. I’d rather spend 2 hours fooling with a computer then 4 days fooling with a engine strip down and reseal 😭😭
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
It just jumps pin 13 to pin 4 on the OBD connector. It syncs the Immo data. It is from jarhead diagnostics, it is not necessary you can jump it with a wire or paper clip. I'm not sure if an 04 camry requires it to be jumped or not.
I'm thinking of buying one of those Godiag breakout boxes. Are you happy with yours or would you recommend something else?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
If your using it for on the bench work it's fantastic. If you want to use it as a regular break out box in the vehicle, it's a little cumbersome for that. I would use a cheap amazon one for that.
@bernardocisneros4402
6 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics Thanks!
Question, what does that adapter from jarhead diagnostics actually do and is that just for toyotas?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
It jumps pin 13 to pin 4 on the data link connector. (which is just grounding pin 13) The only cars I know that need this Immo sync are Toyota & Lexus.
@lakesautomotivediagnostics6509
6 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics so just reading down through the comments so when it grounds pin 13 for 30 minutes what exactly does that do?
@billmonroe8826
6 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics Thanks. Good video!
Did you use the original terminal wires the godiag came with to plug into the pcm or make your own with the aeswave ones?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
I used the AES wave leads, they also make a connector that has banana jack ends and plugs into the go diag.
@AR-il9gk
5 ай бұрын
@advancedleveldiagnostics awesome..gonna order that banana jack cable..never knew about it until i saw your setup
Where did you get that bench test setup?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
3 ай бұрын
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Good video , but to get to the results faster, start @ 14 mins in Thanks 👍 u save 10 mins
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Thanks for watching. The point of my channel is the process of diagnosing the issue, not just the fix at the end.
Was it intentionally you ignored pin 3 light green?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
That is power for the Throttle, that fuse blows many times when you boost it backwards. I've seen many times that fuse blown and the PCM communicates. Thanks for watching!
@DallasAutoDiag
6 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics I did not know that. Thanks for the tip. 👌
Hi, I need all the tools you used. How can I get
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
There are links in the description of the video.
what the name of the obd jumper tool
@advancedleveldiagnostics
4 ай бұрын
Toyota Sync Tool www.jarheaddiag.com/shop/p/toyota-sync-tool
Unplug relays one at the time until the clicking stops. 16:39
So what was wrong? bad internal computer? and what does the jumper do? Im not a mechanic haha just pure curiosity.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
Yes the computer was bad. The jumper was to sync the immobilizer data to the new computer.
What’s the name of the jumper 13 and 4?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
www.jarheaddiag.com/shop/p/toyota-sync-tool
How does jumping the OBD2 for half an hour, reprogram or recalibrate the ECM? Thank you.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
It doesn't reprogram it. It syncs the Immo data. I don't know how it works, but that's what service info says to do. Thanks for watching!
@jdtractorman7445
6 ай бұрын
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@eliezerramosjr1017
6 ай бұрын
In my years of diagnostics I believe that jump seem to be more like a flash/ type hard reset thus making to be factory settings. Just years doing so on the Jap vehicles I’ve done had to do so.
when all the fuse was good. i knew it was a bad computer
When all else fails replace the computer!
You were in alldata.. I don't understand why you didn't look up where that relay was. That threw me off
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
I tried for about 10 min off camera and couldn't find it.
Is it for all Toyotas that you can just get a used computer, change vin with a scan tool and plug that little device for 30 minutes?
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
I think until around 2020.
Lol cant fix it without an expense scanner
Why not just first check the relay.instead of pinching the wire .
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
I was not able to find the relay easily, It's integrated in the box.
105K and already needed a computer. Sad
All that research just to realize it jumped timeing u need a new motor
@advancedleveldiagnostics
5 ай бұрын
you would still need to get it to start, if you put a new motor in it.
I don't know if you wanna hear this.. but there's a much easier way to attack the problem of *do I have a bad ECM*. With the ECU plugged in, constituting a legitimate/built-in load: 1) do I have +85% of battery voltage at the ECU, on all the appropriate a) always hot and b) hot only in run/start key positions.. then, 2) do I have *no residual voltage* at the ECU on any principal ECU grounds, meaning more than .100 volts with the key on.. then, 3) do I have the same 2.6 volts bias voltage at the ECU data + and - terminals as I see at the DLC. These can all be performed with a decent RMS DVOM, and one that also has an LED *rattle bar* below the digits will also give you a quick visual of the repeating COMM burst, but of course that's just icing. Catch my drift? And yes, I always verify I don't just have bad fuses first.
@advancedleveldiagnostics
6 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if you skipped to the end or just looked at the thumbnail, but that is exactly how I checked the ECM. I just used a scope instead of a multimeter because it is easier and more accurate. The only reason why I used the breakout box is because I still wasn't confident because I heard a bunch of relays clicking and there was aftermarket stuff mixed in. It was just extra credit to give me peace of mind. Thanks for watching!
@SevensWorld-up4xg
6 ай бұрын
@@advancedleveldiagnostics I feel ya' bro. Believe me when i tell you, I'm rooting for you. Not many want to run at what you and i deal with on a daily basis any more. But, oh wow, I guess that means more for us. 😄