2014 Chevy Cruze No Crank | TSB for the Win!

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We have here a 2014 Chevy Cruze that had a head gasket done. It worked great for a week, but then it would not crank anymore. I had trouble getting to the problem until I found a TSB that led me straight to the issue! Hope you enjoy!
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  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics5 ай бұрын

    Now that was CRAZY! never thought a bad cam sensor would cause a NO CRANK! 😳 Now we need a scope capture of the signal!!

  • @joesmo4749

    @joesmo4749

    5 ай бұрын

    Me to, never ever seen that!

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    You're right I should of gotten one but I was in a rush because this vehicle took a lot longer than expected😞 Thanks for watching!

  • @crasher88

    @crasher88

    5 ай бұрын

    ah you beat me to it Ivan

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    @@advancedleveldiagnostics what was the actual diag time? That TSB was a life saver lol

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    @@PineHollowAutoDiagnostics About 2 hours, including GM making me change my password. I really wish I had found that TSB right away. Some reason I couldn't find it in the list, only when I typed in no crank.

  • @ivos.1494
    @ivos.14945 ай бұрын

    Awesome work once again! Keep ‘em coming!

  • @titaniumman_22
    @titaniumman_225 ай бұрын

    You the man, nice diag!

  • @t9.Gary007
    @t9.Gary0075 ай бұрын

    It’s was worth it watching you

  • @johnz8210
    @johnz82105 ай бұрын

    That's nuts, thanks for sharing this. Without that TSB who would be looking at cam sensors for a no crank? This could have been a pretty lengthy and frustrating diagnosis.

  • @agoodneighborautorepair2176
    @agoodneighborautorepair21765 ай бұрын

    Very nice diagnostic

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @MrsSunshine75
    @MrsSunshine755 ай бұрын

    Wow excellent video, thank you so much, gonna help a lot of others as well! Keep up the Good Work!

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Much appreciated!

  • @JesseAutoDiag
    @JesseAutoDiag5 ай бұрын

    That was a cool TSB, I've never seen a cam sensor count with KOEO.. Kool Find .!!

  • @natersalad889
    @natersalad8895 ай бұрын

    Being a govt fleet mechanic my whole life, the shop conditions you have to go to and work in are crazy, they are always very dirty, crammed, crap scattered everywhere, and you barely have enough room to squeeze around the car and open the door and get in. Guess I'm just used to the epoxied floors, super bright lighting, everything organized, and equiptment and shop cleaned weekly to stay clean. But besides that point, great diag though, didn't see that coming

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    That's why I usually prefer to work outside the shop, Unless it is stuck inside or too cold.

  • @dtandfam8100

    @dtandfam8100

    5 ай бұрын

    Yep. Agreed! Being mobile I usually prefer working outside of the shops that I service. For all the said reasons. Awesome video man!

  • @maccarr9072

    @maccarr9072

    5 ай бұрын

    Easy to have a perfect shop when the budget is always plenty.

  • @justinhayward5027

    @justinhayward5027

    5 ай бұрын

    I literally was just thinking the same thing. “This dude works in the most back alley sketchy places”

  • @natersalad889

    @natersalad889

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@maccarr9072 yes it is nice......

  • @nicknicu1787
    @nicknicu17875 ай бұрын

    👍Moral of the video : always check TSBs!

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    💯

  • @emmanuellesueur331
    @emmanuellesueur3315 ай бұрын

    Now any time check TSB , some many crazy electronic issue good job

  • @kyletuttle9064
    @kyletuttle90645 ай бұрын

    Never seen that before excellent video.thank for sharing.

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @sheerwillsurvival2064
    @sheerwillsurvival20645 ай бұрын

    WOW great video good learning experience for everyone

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @jefftovani5535
    @jefftovani55355 ай бұрын

    Another great video!! I can see why you like working outside!! The garage looks like a junkyard!! You can use my garage,its heated,clean and no junk on the floor,lol!!! Thanks for showing!!!

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Lol I wish! The only nice shops I work in are Body Shops, and they stink like paint.

  • @robertfrancisco1193
    @robertfrancisco11935 ай бұрын

    nice diag! like a pro!

  • @glenforehand
    @glenforehand3 ай бұрын

    Wild!!

  • @Paul-gw6ow
    @Paul-gw6ow5 ай бұрын

    something new every day

  • @themechanic6117
    @themechanic61175 ай бұрын

    Amazing! That was pretty cool. I'm sure it was one of those " ever since you " situations lol

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    It sure was!

  • @8power0
    @8power05 ай бұрын

    TSB's ARE NOW MY FAVORITE ......!!!!!!!!!!

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Mine too!

  • @ElkoCowboy888
    @ElkoCowboy8883 ай бұрын

    This guy has more Test, Diagnostic Equipment half of which I've never seen before and wouldn't know how to use 😂

  • @Jpilgrim30
    @Jpilgrim304 күн бұрын

    That is a cool one. Surprised I’ve haven’t run across this yet with all of the POS cruises I’ve worked on through the years 😂

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    4 күн бұрын

    This was my only time seeing this, never had it since. Thanks for watching!

  • @tedjohnson64
    @tedjohnson645 ай бұрын

    Very interesting video! I’m also super impressed with the way you’re able to get such clean screen captures of the scan tool and pc screens. Sooo much nicer than the shakey handheld camera on other channels. What software do you use to do that?

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Thank you! On the PC, I'm using a program called RecForth to screen record. On the Scan tool, I'm using the built-in screen recorder.

  • @levialston518
    @levialston5182 ай бұрын

    I had this same problem after checking starter and battery turned out to be the 250 amp fuse on the battery

  • @breakawaymotorsports
    @breakawaymotorsports5 ай бұрын

    Ah progress! This is what happens when you make critical components in grass shacks..

  • @crasher88
    @crasher885 ай бұрын

    Wow that is insane never seen anything like that before

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Same here!

  • @sergei41
    @sergei415 ай бұрын

    Dam ! Its worth cheching tsbs!

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    💯

  • @abdul-kabiralegbe5660
    @abdul-kabiralegbe56605 ай бұрын

    Totally unexpected!

  • @robertoruiz7069
    @robertoruiz70695 ай бұрын

    Good video,so in this case the less INFORMATION the computer HAS the BETTER the car works?right KISS saying is right in this case. good lesson,thank you

  • @bobbybrown8926
    @bobbybrown89265 ай бұрын

    have never seen that before. i bet some would have changed bcm, pcm, fuse box. nice diag.

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @RR-bt5xv
    @RR-bt5xv5 ай бұрын

    nice

  • @stevemazzarella7212
    @stevemazzarella72125 ай бұрын

    That was crazy lol

  • @odisonlineandmoroco911
    @odisonlineandmoroco9115 ай бұрын

    Nice 👍✌️

  • @ThePracticalMechanic
    @ThePracticalMechanic5 ай бұрын

    Anti double start feature blocking crank because it thinks the engine is running?

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Yup, I probably never would of checked for it without the TSB!

  • @ThePracticalMechanic

    @ThePracticalMechanic

    5 ай бұрын

    @@advancedleveldiagnostics same here.

  • @bmwm5550
    @bmwm55505 ай бұрын

    New Sub Here, Great vid, im assuming the signal from the cam sensor was going crazy and reporting that the cam was moving when it was not (engine off) you dont come across a no crank with a faulty cam sensor normally a faulty crank sensor would cause that issue. or was the cam sensor shorted internally

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes it was showing that it was moving when the key was on.

  • @joesmo4749
    @joesmo47495 ай бұрын

    What kind of Labtop do you recommend for programming? Got to update and not trying to brake the bank. Grear video!

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    I use a Toughbook CF-33, I get them on eBay for $350-$500. I update the hard drive with a bigger one and make partitions for Domestic, Asian and Europe.

  • @stevebot
    @stevebot5 ай бұрын

    Not having a routine that marks the signal implausible and ignoring it so the car runs is lame. GM deserves all the bad publicity and warranty costs these kinds of failure modes cause.

  • @manoramachandran9192
    @manoramachandran91925 ай бұрын

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @calholli
    @calholli5 ай бұрын

    hey bro.. Thanks for the heads up on that X431 Pro being on sale. I bought one and my buddy bought one and it's a pretty killer tool. On mine, everything seems to work fine, except on the first home page where there are several buttons, the: "SERVICE FUNCTION" button does not work.. Well it works, it just takes me to a blank page; where normally it would be a bunch of shortcuts of resets, etc. It looks like I can still do the functions, they are just scattered around in the software and different modules, rather than having them grouped up in a convenient menu. Are you going to make a video about this thing or a review, etc? Because I would really like to know if mine is just broken and needs repaired or if that 'service function' button just isn't supported for something this old? Can you please just open up yours and see if that 'Service Function" button in the center, near the top-- that has the wrench symbol: is working or not? Please let me know-- I really appreciate it. and thanks again for the clearance shout out.

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    I just checked, mine is blank too.

  • @micheledean17
    @micheledean175 күн бұрын

    I have a twenty fourteen chevy cruiseI have a 2014 Chevy cruise. It was driving fine. I side swiped a small pole. No damage to the engine whatsoever. I made the wrong choice and took it to a body shop and let him break it down for the frame damage. Estimate when it came back to me. It has like five codes on the dashboard service trek. And then it's what has no power. It won't go over 40 miles an hour.. Literally nothing wrong with it prior to the exterior break down and repair. Do you have any advice?

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 күн бұрын

    Step 1 you have to check with a scan tool to see what the codes are.

  • @kylewilhelm9397
    @kylewilhelm93975 ай бұрын

    Is that orange case just for carrying your maintainer?

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes

  • @bags4
    @bags45 ай бұрын

    With the exhaust CMP sensor unplugged at the end, would the ECM request an MIL, or does this ECM also get a position reading from a crankshaft position sensor or an intake CMP?

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    Yes, it had a circuit code for the exhaust cam sensor.

  • @jimpetty2961
    @jimpetty29615 ай бұрын

    so, do you think the oil in connection has anything to do with the problem?

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    It seemed like the sensor had a slight leak, so it is very possible. I didn't see that symptom in the TSB.

  • @Ilikeryche
    @Ilikeryche3 ай бұрын

    I have a Cruze with this problem on it's way to me. Maybe I'm going to be replacing the exhaust CMP sensor.

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    3 ай бұрын

    you should be able to see it in live data if its moving.

  • @Ilikeryche

    @Ilikeryche

    3 ай бұрын

    @@advancedleveldiagnostics It wasn't the same issue, turned out to be a start and stall with the security light flashing. Someone put a used PCM in it, not sure why. Got the used pcm/immobilizer set up and it starts and runs fine. No codes. Hopefully it isn't back in a while with another fried PCM.

  • @David-mo4qt
    @David-mo4qt5 ай бұрын

    As far as repair software, which one do you prefer?

  • @David-mo4qt

    @David-mo4qt

    5 ай бұрын

    Also, Great diag and repair!!!!!

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    For diagrams I like AllData the best.

  • @ciusesnal4335
    @ciusesnal43354 ай бұрын

    wich topdon scanner is this?

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    4 ай бұрын

    Phoenix Elite www.topdon.us/collections/professional-series/products/phoenix-elite?ref=DKOii7zD3k5PUe

  • @upkarbath
    @upkarbath5 ай бұрын

    Thats crazy, something learnt very new. Cam sensor would prevent to crank the engine. So cool eh

  • @stevenkerwin4041
    @stevenkerwin40415 ай бұрын

    What's more surprising, this cam problem or a Chevy Cruze making it 10 years?

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    😂

  • @bernardocisneros4402
    @bernardocisneros44025 ай бұрын

    Cars are getting ridicously overcomplicated with unnecessary technology. Even with a bad CMP, the car should still crank. I would love to hear why the engineers designed it this way. With older cars, you could at least get home with a bad CMP.

  • @advancedleveldiagnostics

    @advancedleveldiagnostics

    5 ай бұрын

    The problem is that it is not simply bad, it is giving a signal that the car is running, so The car won't crank just like it won't crank when it's actually running.

  • @AlanGonzalez-om4rr

    @AlanGonzalez-om4rr

    5 ай бұрын

    ​@@advancedleveldiagnosticsin such case, the ECM it's missing a check, it should not rely only on CMP counts, but in CKP too. I would even expect a dtc for out of sync if cam it's moving but crank isn't.

  • @bernardocisneros4402

    @bernardocisneros4402

    5 ай бұрын

    @@AlanGonzalez-om4rr The engineers dropped the ball on this one that's why there's a TSB. Like you said the ECM is missing a check. The ECM should compare and confirm those counts from the exhaust CMP with CKP and/or intake CMP. The computer's too dumb due to insufficient programming. Although the exhaust CMP showed counts, it also showed zero RPM. You would think there would be enough code to throw a DTC code for that. Great video though! Good learning experience.

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