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2007 Volkswagen Jetta 2.5L- Crank-No Start, ECM No Communication

NOTE: its not a fuse!!!! lol, working on a 2007 vw jetta with a 2.5l engine, customer complaint is that the veh will not start, the veh does crank, no engine light with the key on, cooling fans are on high, these are signs of an ecm that is not communicating, found that there is no communication with ecm using the scan tool and all the other modules have a networking fault ecm no comm stored, I hope you enjoy this video and thanks for watching.

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  • @SmokinMayhem1
    @SmokinMayhem14 жыл бұрын

    Thanks brother did this to a Jetta today that has been parked for almost 3 years and seen by many mechanics and no one could figure it out damn thing just got back on road today thank a million times brother

  • @mikemurphy2
    @mikemurphy27 ай бұрын

    Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! You saved me from totaling out my daughter's car. I'm so happy after watching your video. After going through the car top to bottom I followed your video step by step with limited amount of electrical testing tools. I tested 1,2,3,5,21,62. 62 - the red/black wire had only 3 volts running through it and as I moved the loom around it shut off completely. My wiring loom was untouched. I started cutting it back, the wires looked perfectly clean but about a foot away you could tell the wires had been getting wet and there was dirt mixed in. Then a saw an area of green corrosion that led me to the point that the wire was broken. I didn't actually see a break in the wire but it was definitely corroded inside the wire coating.

  • @PositiveLeadDiagnostics

    @PositiveLeadDiagnostics

    3 ай бұрын

    Not sure why, but that wire always corrodes.

  • @troysmith9453
    @troysmith94535 жыл бұрын

    Have been watching you for awhile and I know ever time Paul danner watches one of your videos he sheds a tear of the monster he has created THE FORCE IS STONG WITH YOU

  • @philh9238
    @philh92387 жыл бұрын

    why is it always more interesting seeing someone else diagnose vehices?? but thats what i do through out the week and its not as interesting haha

  • @baxrok2.
    @baxrok2.7 жыл бұрын

    Very cool diagnosis and fix Tom. The can signals were indeed slightly different but very much like the ones you and Paul showed us recently with the "mis-located" fuse. Enjoyed watching you work. Thanks for sharing this!

  • @fraanz330i
    @fraanz330i6 жыл бұрын

    Thanks man. exact same problem on an 08 vw jetta 2.5L...sat for two years...we had replaced fuel pump...done tons of fuse and relay checking, never thought to check wiring harness. original wrap, same wire as in the video corroded to the point i pulled it apart from itself. Appreciate the great tutorial!

  • @JosePerez1973
    @JosePerez19734 жыл бұрын

    That was an awesome video, Nicely done. Wish all mechanics were as thorough as you.

  • @mania002
    @mania0027 жыл бұрын

    Nice diagnosis, you saved the customer a lot of money.

  • @orville58
    @orville585 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoy your thought process throughout a problem thanks for taking the time to explain and for posting

  • @Anejo61
    @Anejo612 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done. Much reward in fixing that which many cannot. Simple process and NO, I would not have started with the canbus. You followed the simple logical process. Nice to see a younger pro doing things the right way.

  • @awudubannaf8608
    @awudubannaf86084 жыл бұрын

    You are very knowledgeable..... What makes me excited is how you use your tools absolutely awesome

  • @jemmace2586
    @jemmace25865 жыл бұрын

    Great job! Very satisfying to watch a pro go through such a problem with seemingly no starting point for us diyer's. Subscribed... Thanks!

  • @HeyBirt
    @HeyBirt7 жыл бұрын

    I am always suspicious when I see electrical tape. It typically means someone has been hacking into wires, usually cutting them an inch from a connector just to make them hard to repair properly. Good job on the diagnoses!

  • @sethwright
    @sethwright4 жыл бұрын

    wow, I am seriously so impressed with this video. You taught me so much just in 15 mins!!

  • @deplorable_pureblood_patri7704
    @deplorable_pureblood_patri77042 жыл бұрын

    I picked up an 07 Jetta yesterday for $200 with the same issues shown here. The dealer quoted the owner $2200 to replace the ECM. I tested it the way that you’ve shown here and had a short on the same wire. I fixed the short and the car started right up. Thank you for this video.

  • @darrenflounders2803
    @darrenflounders28037 жыл бұрын

    It's nice to see it not always so technical,,,keep up the good work👍👍👍

  • @freddy2064
    @freddy20645 жыл бұрын

    Very nice map to success. Thanks for taking us along.

  • @Isabellabronx70s
    @Isabellabronx70s6 жыл бұрын

    Like this one. This guy was like a detective on these numbered wires. Most shops I've been to don't even take that time to read a diagram.

  • @eladio4365
    @eladio43656 жыл бұрын

    Hi again Tom you are a genious ! I had same simptoms no check engine light and fans had a mind of their own cause they would turn on for no reason so i did everything just like you have it here documented in your video and guess what it was same wire Red + black and i used my test list and traced it and there it was with same white rust inside wire cut it and jumped wire and boom turned on right away ..was very happy when i saw check engine light on cause then i knew i was in the right path !!Again tnx a million i wish you were near by to treat you to some Chinese food or some Ribs but i guess we far away from each other ...mike tnx bro you are a life saver !!!take care pal....Eladio

  • @gearhead-bv7kv
    @gearhead-bv7kv4 жыл бұрын

    Dude u saved me many many hours of searching. Same exact problem. Fix the wire now it runs. Thanks a million buddy

  • @stevenelson6639

    @stevenelson6639

    2 жыл бұрын

    Which wire was it? He talked about number 62 being red and black early in the video, but looks like he is fixing a black and yellow wire

  • @jbb5470
    @jbb54705 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Really liked watching you hunt this down. Thanks for posting

  • @MugenRicer
    @MugenRicer6 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Had in the shop a 2007 Jetta also pin 62 only had 2.2 volts pulled the wires....black and red had corrosion in it. Repaired the wire cleared the modules and all is good. Thanks again.

  • @lildoggy4u
    @lildoggy4u5 жыл бұрын

    Can I just mention how watching you work with that wiring reaching all the way back to the firewall made my lower back hurt.

  • @brayanguzman4657
    @brayanguzman46575 күн бұрын

    Bro you are awesome i just fixed a 2008 jetta following your steps. Wire black and red had corrotion got my power and check engine light back thanks for this video

  • @prmayner
    @prmayner7 жыл бұрын

    Distorted can signals will be my go to from now on with a no comm, great vid.

  • @PositiveLeadDiagnostics

    @PositiveLeadDiagnostics

    7 жыл бұрын

    nice, I think its a great test!!

  • @train4905
    @train49052 жыл бұрын

    Tom another abdolutely brilliant video. Very clear concise,methodical. Superb job.steve from the uk

  • @LemmeTryFixIt
    @LemmeTryFixIt Жыл бұрын

    Awesome vid. I had a car dropped off today with the exact same symptoms. No comms with the ecu. Fans running, won't start. This video will be helpful with troubleshooting. I have All Data, but your video provided what pins I need to check. Much appreciated, and happy Thanksgiving.

  • @la1negrita
    @la1negrita3 жыл бұрын

    What a wonderful story with a happy ending. 👏🏽Bravo

  • @billyr9840
    @billyr98407 жыл бұрын

    Tommy, Paul taught you well. and apparently you paid attention !

  • @natanV798
    @natanV798 Жыл бұрын

    Even this video has 5 yrs, my jetta does the same thing! Thanks for the solution

  • @lukefolger8480
    @lukefolger8480 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you for the amazing video! Followed this process and found the same corroded wire!

  • @jgeorges3061
    @jgeorges30617 жыл бұрын

    Good one TOMY, always fun to watch and listen to ur process . thanks for sharing cheeeeeeeeeers.

  • @EXOVCDS
    @EXOVCDS7 жыл бұрын

    Nicely done!

  • @OscarHernandezMOhm
    @OscarHernandezMOhm5 жыл бұрын

    excellent video!!! you help me a lot to fix my car!! congrats!!

  • @SeniorBunnies
    @SeniorBunnies6 жыл бұрын

    You are genius, and it's helped me to solve my problem. Thank you

  • @carlovincetti1352

    @carlovincetti1352

    5 жыл бұрын

    You may not even of had a short in the wiring but that is what it is supposed to do, lead you to thinking that will find it.

  • @sandyande
    @sandyande7 жыл бұрын

    thanks Tommy, great learning video cheers sandy

  • @woody95124
    @woody951245 жыл бұрын

    Very interesting!...Good job on locating ACTUAL problem....

  • @PositiveLeadDiagnostics

    @PositiveLeadDiagnostics

    5 жыл бұрын

    Thank you. This actually is a common problem on the mk5s

  • @eladio4365
    @eladio43656 жыл бұрын

    Excelent job bro ! I have same problem now i know what i have to do ...tnx a million Tom.......

  • @Marour.5
    @Marour.53 жыл бұрын

    I suggest doing a capacitive discharge of the car battery before changing out parts. Disconnect both battery terminals, starting with the ground - (negative), connect both connection leads with a jumper wire for at 1 minute. Reconnect both battery terminals, hopefully that helps. That worked with my car!

  • @stevethedonful
    @stevethedonful4 жыл бұрын

    Nice fault finding man.. I’m about to start on a 2009 Tiguan.. no start, no comms..!

  • @richardmcwhirter9396
    @richardmcwhirter93967 жыл бұрын

    Great work once again thanks for sharing 👍

  • @tntt8567
    @tntt85674 жыл бұрын

    Just got one towed in as soon as I turned the key and got the scanner ready and those fans kicked on I knew I had a problem with the pcm so the carpet was wet I just moved the rubber seal under the hood as sure enough it was full of dirt water and the fibers from the fire wall so a mouse house and broken wires repaired that and everything worked 👍

  • @nadineoubida2127
    @nadineoubida21274 жыл бұрын

    Pretty crafty. Outstanding diagnostic. VW are notorious for thses broken/ rotten wires and water infiltration, damage.

  • @ojong20521
    @ojong205216 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Thanks for your 21:41 minutes of interesting VW realities. Got to love the internet and Mr. Tom!!29Aug18

  • @baks6890
    @baks68903 жыл бұрын

    That was perfect and very instructive 👏👏👍

  • @96ej
    @96ej4 жыл бұрын

    1000th like lol, thanks man I owe you one I'm 99% sure this is exactly what's going on with the car I just got

  • @hajileserpud9539

    @hajileserpud9539

    4 жыл бұрын

    Is it same problem or different ?... my daughter has a 2008 that's acting up

  • @Onelovelife8

    @Onelovelife8

    3 жыл бұрын

    I also think this is what's going on with my vehicle as well

  • @AutoFocus-se
    @AutoFocus-se7 жыл бұрын

    Good job. VW wiring diagrams is fun to track :D

  • @buddiec
    @buddiec4 жыл бұрын

    Dude that was awsome great trouble shooting skills

  • @rsharney1111
    @rsharney11114 жыл бұрын

    I have an 08 Wolfsburg that shut off during a snow storm. A few other mechanics did a few tune up things and now it has a misfire from hell and about 30 codes (all low voltage or implausible values) found an aftermarket alarm/ amplifier cluster F that had shorted and took out the ecm fuse also killed the lift pump and burned up the hpfp, a air temp sensor wires were dead shorted, and the 12v feed to a module under the steering wheel was shorted. After removal and repairs it still has a ton of codes and misfires. I think I have a hidden short or the ECM is cooked. Idk but I've tested every relay fuse and connector to do with the motor and they are good.

  • @adishajrovic2082
    @adishajrovic20826 ай бұрын

    You are the future Scanner Danner !!

  • @StevenPatrick
    @StevenPatrick4 жыл бұрын

    awesome video man .. you know your stuff .. very impressive

  • @familygunsandrides....8024
    @familygunsandrides....80245 жыл бұрын

    Great video, I'm having the same problem with my 2004 Audi A4 now I know what else to check...

  • @THREESHOTBANDIT
    @THREESHOTBANDIT7 жыл бұрын

    Well done Tommy!

  • @Pablo_Automotive
    @Pablo_Automotive7 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Tonm for share ☺

  • @imanuelkasheeta8820
    @imanuelkasheeta88202 жыл бұрын

    U are a professional my 2008 Audi A3 2.0 T is also doing the same I hve also removing my wires frm ecm plugs but jst dd it halfway

  • @gustavomartinez324
    @gustavomartinez324Ай бұрын

    Wow bro u truly the VW expert

  • @email2201
    @email22014 жыл бұрын

    that was awesome and satisfying... good job..

  • @JustGrowSG
    @JustGrowSG3 жыл бұрын

    As someone who knows zero about cars I learned a great deal about my Volkswagen. I’m hoping it doesn’t cost too much to replace this thing.

  • @Jeremya74

    @Jeremya74

    Жыл бұрын

    Replace what thing?..your VW?...that depends on what you get to replace it..duh

  • @JustGrowSG

    @JustGrowSG

    Жыл бұрын

    @@Jeremya74 have a nice day

  • @Jeremya74

    @Jeremya74

    Жыл бұрын

    @@JustGrowSG wait?...that is what you were saying?..I thought I was misunderstanding..😂

  • @CarDocQatar
    @CarDocQatar Жыл бұрын

    i clicked on your video thinking its scannerdanner just because of that yellow dmm :D

  • @jdmcarboy64
    @jdmcarboy645 жыл бұрын

    This is the same issue I’m having on my mk4 Jetta 2.0L I went to change the plugs, realized I didn’t wanna tank the leafs from the wire so without the tool I never even tried. Hooked all my vacuum lines back up correctly and it just turned over and over and eventually killed the starter. Still don’t know if it’ll start once the starter is replaced.

  • @lweeeluay
    @lweeeluay2 жыл бұрын

    thanks thanks thanks you are a life saver , same exact problem and same exact wire .

  • @felm3283
    @felm32834 жыл бұрын

    an excellent diagnostic master. it was a headache but you did it that's important. I have a 2006 Volkswagen Touareg 3.2L no power supply to fuel pump. What do you advise me to fix this vehicle. Thanks

  • @jesusjessereyes6633
    @jesusjessereyes66335 жыл бұрын

    Well done man!

  • @jamesrossmotors
    @jamesrossmotors6 жыл бұрын

    Nice video Tommy. I am curious to know if this CAN signal distortion is a VW only issue when a power supply is lost or whether or not it is the same for other manufacturers. In your other video with Danner you went back and questioned the resistance of the TCM CAN lines and was curious. This led you to look further. I am not sure that an issue inside the module would pull the reading up or down since the TCM did not have one of the 120 resistors inside itthat returns the 60K value. I think your logic to question replacing the TCM was good but am still not sure that even if the TCM was at fault that you would have seen a different value as the testing is all done powered down and all these lines carry are messages. Still a great catch none the less. Maybe we will have to wait until a faulty module is found and check the CAN resistance then to know for sure what goes on. Thanks for the video

  • @unlimited408mike
    @unlimited408mike2 жыл бұрын

    Great video very good job 👏

  • @losesparkplug1190
    @losesparkplug11905 жыл бұрын

    Good video, Im having same issue on a 2002 1.8T. I jumped started signal wire but im not sure because its getting 1.4 volts on the starter and i have to check grounds or fuses. New starter but still cant figure it out. I need to get a diagram for the Jetta

  • @kellyspeppers
    @kellyspeppers6 жыл бұрын

    Have found evidence of the wiper motor arms coming in contact with that wire bundle connection the ECM on a 2005. Also found evidence of moisture inside the ECM. On this car I found the drain holes were stopped up by leaves in the area under the ECM that caused snow and water to cover the ECM wires. Could be the reason VW changed the ECM location on the MK6 cars.

  • @jgizin
    @jgizin6 жыл бұрын

    Awesome job. Is the connector that was right next to the damaged wire the factory "(D78) plus connection 1" or splice in the wiring harness that was seen in the wiring diagram? I am trying to sort out an identical problem. I have no power at the T121/62 0.5 ro/sw wire.

  • @carlovincetti1352
    @carlovincetti13525 жыл бұрын

    Yes, the dreaded "somebody was here" Least it lets you know you're close to finding it:) Then there are all the mechanics that can't find these problems.

  • @losesparkplug1190
    @losesparkplug11905 жыл бұрын

    Shifter broke while back trying to fix triptonic and i had a zip tie at just right spot but interlock not stopping movement but sat for a year with battery connected so corrosion probably the issue on a wire somewhere.

  • @TheModScientist
    @TheModScientist7 жыл бұрын

    great video! I have a problem with an '07 jetta 2.5. has me pretty stumped. throwing codes for AAT (IAT) sensor high voltage, and ECT high voltage. Ref voltage is good, sensors both read fine. Seems to only set the codes on start up. Car runs great and I can clear codes while running and they never come back, can shut off after clear and key back on and no codes. Only set when car starts up. Any ideas where to go next?

  • @holguineroloco
    @holguineroloco4 жыл бұрын

    You may happen to have the same diagram but for a 2011 vw Jetta ? I saw the two grounds and 3,5 pin but not the rest of the pin, they were not used on my model, i saw the same color wires but in different pin positions. Thank you

  • @bundylovess
    @bundylovess6 жыл бұрын

    Nice job mate

  • @timbrown6593
    @timbrown659311 ай бұрын

    Wow i have the same issue and now i can reference your video to the mechanic

  • @vian303030
    @vian3030307 жыл бұрын

    Awesome thanks for sharing.

  • @sara78130
    @sara781306 жыл бұрын

    good vido tomorrow i will check again for pin 3+ 1and2 - 21+ and 62+ thanks

  • @serpentbearer6649
    @serpentbearer66495 жыл бұрын

    Man u would be a good friend to have

  • @lildoggy4u
    @lildoggy4u5 жыл бұрын

    Very impressive. where would the ground wire be located for the ECM. Would it also be located under the battery tray?

  • @whitetiger8652
    @whitetiger86527 жыл бұрын

    Nice job!

  • @LUISATMOVIS
    @LUISATMOVIS5 жыл бұрын

    you are the man thank you

  • @williamsautomotiveb3906
    @williamsautomotiveb39067 жыл бұрын

    Good stuff, where did you tap into for CAN signals? What pins?

  • @rrmech11
    @rrmech117 жыл бұрын

    nice job tommy

  • @Canadiangangstar
    @Canadiangangstar5 жыл бұрын

    Hi! I have the identical problem but when I probe the last positive wire like you did I get the exact symptoms! But when I took the tape off the wires seem ok. I am curious- could the ecu be faulty if the wires are good? I'm thinking it's that wire- there was a mouse nest on it. But no damage to the wires. Ecu fail?

  • @mustafaafridi1558
    @mustafaafridi15586 жыл бұрын

    very nice job

  • @dezblyan5125
    @dezblyan51257 жыл бұрын

    Good job finding that wire, most wudda changed the ECM

  • @lildoggy4u

    @lildoggy4u

    5 жыл бұрын

    That's exactly what most shops would tell you they'd have to do

  • @losesparkplug1190
    @losesparkplug11905 жыл бұрын

    Was gonna try to put a test light on the brake switch to check ignition switch power but i might have to check ecm or tcm power

  • @alexhyatt3580
    @alexhyatt35804 жыл бұрын

    I have 8 volts on the black and purple. Think this could stop mine from starting when it's raining and cold?

  • @antonioserrano925
    @antonioserrano9256 жыл бұрын

    Where do I find a diagram for a 2006 vw passat 2.0t ecm.I checked all data but they are not very specific with power and ground or fuses related to ecm anyhelp I will apreciate thanks

  • @fredflintstone8048
    @fredflintstone80485 жыл бұрын

    Great job.

  • @bilalflayeh6889
    @bilalflayeh68896 жыл бұрын

    Great job

  • @robertsimkins325
    @robertsimkins3253 ай бұрын

    After many days of fighting the same thing on a 2010 VW Jetta 2.5, and replaced cam sensor , crank position sensor, battery, clock spring, and many other problems , car would continue to shut off while driving. Pulled ECM OUT , while connected and shook wire harness , car shut off, and it was wire 62 corroded in the bundle. Why is this not a recall? Thank you soo much for this video.

  • @mrsseasea
    @mrsseasea4 жыл бұрын

    I’m working on a jetta 2008 2.5 having same issue, tore off MAS and gave it a try and she started right up? could it be the MAS?

  • @kennethmckee4223
    @kennethmckee42237 жыл бұрын

    Great diagnosis simple straight to the point.

  • @cportisrun26
    @cportisrun264 жыл бұрын

    I can't get my obd2 scanner or my 3rd party vcds cable to connect to my 2006 jetta tdi brm manual. I've checked all fuses and relays and the wiring.. I've pretty much concluded my ecu might be fried... But im getting a no crank no start problem. Think this could be a fried ecu then?

  • @Dya90925
    @Dya909253 жыл бұрын

    Having a code power supply relay for ecu j271 or j363 can I get any suggestions on where I should be looking in my car it's a 2005 vw jetta 2.5

  • @WickyFarms
    @WickyFarms3 жыл бұрын

    This exact thing happened to me. However my gear selector PRNDL started flashing also. Plus the Steering wheel came upon dash.

  • @lovelandfrogman2136
    @lovelandfrogman21363 жыл бұрын

    Hey guys! So I am getting nearly the same problem as in this video; except my check engine light is on, and I get three distinct beeps when the ignition is switched on, indicating low oil or oil pressure but oil levels are fine; the car cranks but no start and no spark(battery, plugs and coil all fine) I am getting ECM code 01314 on my transmission, brake electronics, Airco and instrument cluster, any thoughts?! Thanks!

  • @aldavies1906
    @aldavies1906 Жыл бұрын

    Im having the same problem with golf mk4 v6 4motion are the pin diagram the same

  • @Zombierippa
    @Zombierippa Жыл бұрын

    I have a no crank no start 2007 rabbit. I have a check engine light when key is on, but I have code 0685. Everything worked fine until I washed the windshield. I see a lot of leaves and wetness around the ecm harness, not sure what to check next.

  • @uttarabia1
    @uttarabia17 жыл бұрын

    good video