You won't believe what's causing this No start!

Автокөліктер мен көлік құралдары

In this video we diagnose a vehicle with a crank no start.
The cause of this fault will amaze you!
For Business inquiries (Not for technical questions):
Diagnosedan@gmail.com

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  • @johnbolongo9978
    @johnbolongo99782 жыл бұрын

    This dude is amazingly good at what he does. A cut above. Nicely done.

  • @gailtaylor1636

    @gailtaylor1636

    2 жыл бұрын

    He's the best.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks John that's appriciated

  • @tonyrice3348

    @tonyrice3348

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hes one of a handful on KZread that are at the top of their game. Never ceases to amaze me how many times he diagnoses it correctly, oh that's 100% of the time, Dan is the man

  • @uel202e0b

    @uel202e0b

    2 жыл бұрын

    His analytical skills are incredible.

  • @graycleary
    @graycleary2 жыл бұрын

    Fixed for free. What a true gentleman you are. Well done 👏🏻

  • @ShitWrangler

    @ShitWrangler

    2 жыл бұрын

    takin food of the plate of good families underselling the trade, undercut my own family DAMMIT

  • @TheFrenchPug

    @TheFrenchPug

    2 жыл бұрын

    Dan is a great guy. You can tell he's just a genuinely good dude.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    When i called the owners they were so gratefull, that's worth more than money😁

  • @bernardaflores1720

    @bernardaflores1720

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan They do needed that car because of the Handy Cap ramp.

  • @graycleary

    @graycleary

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan Respect where it is due. Giving back is always a sure way to happiness.

  • @binagarten4667
    @binagarten46678 ай бұрын

    Every town every city, every country needs Dan. Clone Dan.

  • @Peter-od7op
    @Peter-od7opАй бұрын

    God is watching over you. So proud you helped out the handicapped.

  • @thmawhirt
    @thmawhirt2 жыл бұрын

    I think Bosch should be paying you a lot of money for doing their quality control!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    I already checked 2 sensors for them🤣🤣

  • @palewriter1856

    @palewriter1856

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan So next you're looking at negotiating your per-unit testing price? Good luck with THAT!!! This was a HUGE eye-opener for me, for which I'm WAY GRATEFUL!!! Your tenacity and dedication is BEYOND superlative! Sure, it helps to have all the necessary TOYS, but in lesser hands, that would NOT have been sufficient! WAY to GO, Dan!!! So - for one: I'm simple-minded enough to have thought (for YEARS) that if it wore a BOSCH label, it was FINE STUFF, against which all other manufacturers' products might be measured. REALITY CHECK!!! For two: your work ethic should be taught en masse -- so many youngsters today have NO IDEA AT ALL how things work in the real world work place, or what it means to wrestle a problem to the ground NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES! For three: the tachometer tongue-twister: just call it a tach! (just like TACK) Old school. For four: THANKS again for the INSPIRING tale!

  • @mgomez5606

    @mgomez5606

    2 жыл бұрын

    Get your money back for defective part.

  • @palewriter1856

    @palewriter1856

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@mgomez5606 That doesn't even come CLOSE to proper compensation for Bosch's gross blunder!!!

  • @markwood7346

    @markwood7346

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@palewriter1856 chsers

  • @thejoneseys
    @thejoneseys2 жыл бұрын

    I did wonder if the pins were different but that really is unbelievable. I guess both of those Bosch sensors were from the same production batch. Without the old sensor that could have gone on a while longer 😁 Very frustrating and needless time and money wasted for everyone. Diagnosis for free guarantees a place in car heaven for you. Great work 👌🏻

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    It already took me far to long😯

  • @PhillipBailey

    @PhillipBailey

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan famous last words...this should be easy...

  • @glasshalffull8625

    @glasshalffull8625

    2 жыл бұрын

    Years ago, another video mechanic said that it is always preferable to replace the crank position sensor with a replacement from the dealership. Seems he was correct.

  • @slasher9883

    @slasher9883

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@glasshalffull8625 Unless the dealership item was also made by Bosch (which is very likely in this case).

  • @glasshalffull8625

    @glasshalffull8625

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@slasher9883 The dealership would immediately know something is wrong with the part as they replace more of those parts for their cars than anyone else. It’s a matter of volume and familiarity with their cars. I had a similar no-start issue and I had narrowed it down to crank position sensor and another sensor. The dealership parts guys helped me out by telling me for every one of the other sensors, they sell a hundred of the crank sensors. No guarantee, but they were right.

  • @atlasxxiii
    @atlasxxiii Жыл бұрын

    Bosh needs to pay for it and send you a thank you card with a prime restaurant card for the whole crew. You just saved them a law suit

  • @ameribrahim5405
    @ameribrahim5405 Жыл бұрын

    Dan I'm a 20 year master technician and still learn something new with every video you put out. You are a diagnostic God. Thank you for sharing your knowledge

  • @pauloconnor7951

    @pauloconnor7951

    Жыл бұрын

    When I worked on Z's (Nissan Z's) in California; honestly we repaired these issues by plugging in new components; one after another. It worked; i've got to say.

  • @carlt6932

    @carlt6932

    3 ай бұрын

    ​@@pauloconnor7951Very hard to do that these days with the crap parts out there. I tell people if you do that keep your old parts.

  • @PDR-wb9dq
    @PDR-wb9dq2 жыл бұрын

    That truly was a great diagnoses Dan.... I am also a mechanic of over 35 years in the trade and I don't think I would have found that one, well done my friend that car means a great deal to the person that owns it as without out his car he would be a prisoner in his own home, that car might not be a lot to me and you but it means freedom to him and his family. Great to hear you gave your labour for free you are a good man..... well done my friend and best wishes from the UK 👍

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks the owner was so gratefull that's worth more than money 😁

  • @lylecoglianese1645

    @lylecoglianese1645

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan, what also makes it worth it is the great reviews he will share with family and friends! 🤗

  • @waynesimpson2074

    @waynesimpson2074

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan Fekn hell Dan, you are awesome, what a gent...subscribed, thanks.

  • @peterrichardson9355
    @peterrichardson93552 жыл бұрын

    I watch a South Main Auto channel and he had the same problem with a Honda speed sensor cheap chinese made after abit of time decided to replace the part with a genuine part from the dealers bingo it worked so well done to you for taking the time to sort it for the customer and you will store that diagnosis for the next time shame on Bosch for not checking their products

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes it happens everywhere unfortunately

  • @mjjohnson61

    @mjjohnson61

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan I diagnosed a Nissan Xxtrail with faulty cams sensor and lack power purchase a new one from dealer engine wouldn’t start installed old one engine started, new original sensor faulty ,

  • @kennethtalbott2233

    @kennethtalbott2233

    Ай бұрын

    yep, south main guy is well decent too. watch a lot of his stuff.

  • @josephbeltramini5442
    @josephbeltramini54422 жыл бұрын

    Dan doesn’t have problems, only solutions.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    😁👍

  • @robertmedina6875
    @robertmedina6875 Жыл бұрын

    Hey Dan you are a saint. My step dad was in a wheel chair and trying to get by on a 1000.00 a month American dollars per month!! He ended up with cerebral palsy from birth and was crippled in the chair. So because of this the American system works like they just don't give you very much if you have never worked in your life. Had he have worked he would have got about 1600 a month. Unfortunately his fingers were crippled and the only thing that he could do was pack O-rings in kits for a company called Clark equipment. They paid him 3 cents per kit. Needless to say we were very poor growing up. When they never forget my dad would have been happy. You're a good man Dan

  • @hugh007
    @hugh0072 жыл бұрын

    There are probably thousands of those Bosch sensors at parts suppliers. Techs everywhere will be facing the same problem. Thanks.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    I wonder how many have been sold?

  • @mrblonde2013
    @mrblonde20132 жыл бұрын

    There's not many people who would have been able to find this. This could have been one of those "unfixable" cars or accidentally fixed with dumb flipping luck, without understanding what is actually wrong. You're the man Dan 😊

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @londen3547

    @londen3547

    Жыл бұрын

    The engine still ran with the old sensor but wouldn't start with the new. Why wouldn't you be able to figure that out? He probably could have avoided all of this and put on an OEM sensor to begin with.

  • @juergenbertram7312

    @juergenbertram7312

    11 ай бұрын

    @@londen3547 , the engine started up, as long as the sensor was still cold !

  • @johannadefeles2227

    @johannadefeles2227

    10 ай бұрын

    Dan I would say the electronics in the module would recognise rpm on either negative or positive edge trigger of the signal but not both. Can be worked out from waveforms perhaps? Incredible company like Bosch could get wires wrong, possibly incorrect part number etc.@@Diagnosedan

  • @noelconnor8539

    @noelconnor8539

    5 ай бұрын

    He certainly is theman😂😂❤

  • @TheKeenMechanic
    @TheKeenMechanic2 жыл бұрын

    You are an amazing technician Dan. Such an interesting video. Bosch should pay for all this and also recall all poorly manufactured sensors produced. One of my favourite videos. You can tell by the way you recorded this that you really enjoyed it as well🤝

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    I did always nice when something simple turns into an interesting case!

  • @octaviansorescu7427
    @octaviansorescu7427 Жыл бұрын

    So much patience and determination!!! Formidable! A real winner! For three months I have been looking for information about the EGR of the Vw Golf 6 1.6 tdi. Now I know absolutely everything about him. The problems that arise, mechanical, electrical, working parameters, every electrical connection, absolutely everything! Good luck! We are waiting for new episodes!

  • @DavidSuttoninSpain
    @DavidSuttoninSpain2 жыл бұрын

    How can BOSCH make such a mistake? I am so glad that you sorted it out for the people well done Dan, for sticking with that problem a lot of people would have charged them the earth and not been able to fix it.

  • @DavidSuttoninSpain

    @DavidSuttoninSpain

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dazaspc the same mistake twice? Some really intelligent storeman then, perhaps he should find another vocation. 😉

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    What proberbly happens is that Bosch buys these parts for older cars from another party and sticks them in a Bosch packaging without checking

  • @Random-nf7qb

    @Random-nf7qb

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan What is probably going to happen is that I'm not gonna buy bosch any more :) Cheapskates...

  • @frenchielovescars

    @frenchielovescars

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not necessarily a Bosch issue. I have had the same thing on a clutch pedal sensor on a BMW. Imagine that for some reason you have 2 very similar parts that are physically the same but wired opposite because of the ECU they are connected to. 10 yrs after the car is not sold anymore the part numbers get superseded and no one remembers why there was 2 different part numbers and both get superseded by the same part.

  • @neilmurphy845

    @neilmurphy845

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan That's it That's how everything's gone nowadays

  • @WillieJu
    @WillieJu2 жыл бұрын

    Another job well done Dan. So nice of you to help out people in need. ! Love your channel - keep 'em video's coming !

  • @stoqnesko

    @stoqnesko

    2 жыл бұрын

    Job well Dan!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Willem

  • @paulisaaksohn9179
    @paulisaaksohn9179 Жыл бұрын

    Dan, I am totally blown away by your top-notch professionalism, work ethics, experience, superb skills and above all your relentless perseverance and passion for the trade, not to mention dedication to your customers for lack of a better term. What a blessing it would be to have you take a look at my car and consult you from time to time on some car issues. Keep up the great job!Shame on you, Bosch!You need to pick up the tab for all the trouble!

  • @TheDaf95xf
    @TheDaf95xf10 ай бұрын

    That was absolutely amazing Dan 👍🏻 Your generosity on doing that for free was very admirable 🤩🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

  • @ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO
    @ADVANCEDLEVELAUTO2 жыл бұрын

    Great video Dan! I’ve been down several rabbit holes because of incorrectly manufactured parts. It’s part of what makes this industry so frustrating to work in, but I love what I do. Thanks again for the awesome video!

  • @TheFrenchPug

    @TheFrenchPug

    2 жыл бұрын

    It's happening a lot more frequently. Chinese parts and bad OEM parts seem to be on the rise.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great to see you here! Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment it's appriciated 👍

  • @-robster-robster-

    @-robster-robster-

    2 жыл бұрын

    And when you see local parts factor companies delivering to main dealer stores to get a cheaper pattern part quicker than oe it makes me sad that some poor dude is paying dealer prices for aftermarket parts

  • @sollykhan2385

    @sollykhan2385

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@-robster-robster- it's happening a lot more frequently than you think, Euro Car parts sold the complete 4 wire Green coolant temp sensors on the day i rang for 1, when i arrived to collect mine, i witnessed a local vw/ Audi dealer driver collecting the entire stock from them, giving me no choice but to go there, and PAY THEIR PRICES!! worse was to come, it was a cheap Chinese obviously that failed a few day's later, when i returned it to the Audi supplier, was told it cannot be returned because it had already been fitted, and they couldn't resell it in that condition!! 🤥

  • @jamiuajasa9367

    @jamiuajasa9367

    2 жыл бұрын

    Boss comment on boss video 🤣 nice one guys!

  • @Retirement_Life
    @Retirement_Life2 жыл бұрын

    Nice to see you again, Dan. Who would have thought Bosch would have got their wiring inverted?! 😜

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Not me for sure, it would have safed me alot of time if i suspected anything like this!

  • @JT-lq4yd

    @JT-lq4yd

    2 жыл бұрын

    If you look at it from another perspective, it is good that the wired connector is only for a signal and not for power. Otherwise, the ECM would be fried.

  • @crs1474
    @crs1474 Жыл бұрын

    Awesome awesome work Dan 👏 not just for the video and work you put in it but also for your generosity in helping the vehicle’s owner. 🙌

  • @mikeclinch1141
    @mikeclinch11417 ай бұрын

    Love the video - glad to have found you - I was a commissioning engineer on control systems for a few years and this brings back those memories - when you check it all out and cant find the problem and you go round in circles a few times trying random things , anything, until you eventually solve it, then try and explain to the office why it took you hours to get there - made me smile - thanks !

  • @pa590skrt
    @pa590skrt2 жыл бұрын

    you got to love Dan for not charging for fixing this car. keep up the great work Dan! f

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 😁😁👍

  • @robertshunter
    @robertshunter2 жыл бұрын

    Never saw that coming! Truly quality content. 👍 Non-honorary *BOO-HISS!* for Bosch's failed quality control process.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @Troy_Built

    @Troy_Built

    2 жыл бұрын

    Must have been a newbie on that shift. I wonder how many made it out in that batch.

  • @darrollfryer628
    @darrollfryer6282 жыл бұрын

    Dan I just want to say is thank you for the great video more then anything not charging the customer that even made it the best video ever. Due to an accident I am also handicapped but as a technician that I was I wished I could have done more for the handicapped just because they have a lot of outgo on their end from their income and no one to help so that they can survive and live at a little better than what they are now believe it or not just what you just did help them out the most anybody could have ever done God bless you for that and I wish more people were like you keep up the great work keep putting out these great videos I love them it gives me something to do and once again thank you from the bottom of my heart

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Darrol, thanks for your comment, the owner was very gratefull, that was worth more than money

  • @MarcBeland
    @MarcBeland8 ай бұрын

    I didn't get paid 😄 but I learned something (as I do with almost all your videos) so that to me is worth the time spent here. THANKS!!!!!

  • @spyderlogan4992
    @spyderlogan49922 жыл бұрын

    Crank position sensor: 1) Original=Bad, 2) 1st spare=mis-wired, 3) 2nd spare=mis-wired, 4) 3rd spare=wired correctly. Wow. Well Done Dan~!!!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes this was a strange case, it took me way to long

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@dazaspc you are right but this is what happens sometimes and can be part of a diag when parts are available.

  • @blockbertus
    @blockbertus2 жыл бұрын

    What I learned from a bunch of friends who are fans of french cars is that you should never mix french cars with Bosch parts. At least not when it comes to ignition related things. I guess they were onto something... Edit: Looking at the wave forms, it appears as if the polarity of the Bosch sensor is reversed. Edit 2: Oh, you also noticed that... Oups.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣👍

  • @gerhardvandenberg7249

    @gerhardvandenberg7249

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan What I learned from this video. If it doesn't work after you have tried everything...... Change the wires around ...... OOOPS!!!!!! 😜😎😭

  • @biz4twobiz463
    @biz4twobiz4632 жыл бұрын

    Always recommend OEM or OE when it comes to these types of parts. GREAT diagnose!!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    You are right. OEM is the best choice when it comes to sensors

  • @DenHollender
    @DenHollender7 ай бұрын

    Just discovered this channel recently, love it! This is what mechanics is all about. Pinpoint the problem and fix it. Not only fix it, it was fixed after installing the "cheap" sensor, but also find out why the Bosch sensor didn't work as it should. Keep up the good work Dan, you've got a new fan here!

  • @marcioreis2648
    @marcioreis26482 жыл бұрын

    Great diagnostic again Dan. I would never think of a Bosch part to be that messed up. But you fixed it again. By the way once this Pandemic and invasion is over I'll pay for all the expenses to fly out to you and help you for free of course , that is if you ever need anybody. P.S. I've been working with diagnosing and fixing just about anything on wheels an on water for the longest time and noticed a few parts that are counterfeit with brand names on them. Sign of the times I guess.

  • @gailtaylor1636

    @gailtaylor1636

    2 жыл бұрын

    Only have to swap the pin locations in the connector. Simple fix once you know the problem. Like when the 70 year old machine quit in a factory and nobody knew how to fix it. They called an old guy that used to work there and asked him. He came out with what looked like a doctors bag. Laid out 3 things. Stethoscope Chalk Big rubber hammer Walked around and around the machine listening occasionally with the stethoscope. After few minutes, drew a big X on the side of machine. Picked up the rubber hammer and gave it a big old whack. Machine sprung to life!!! Wrote up a bill for $18,000. Manager screamed about the fee. Said he wanted itemized bill as he wasn't paying him for hitting it with a hammer. Bill said: Labor---$10 Knowing where to hit it---$17,990 They paid the bill!😂🤣😂

  • @TheFrenchPug

    @TheFrenchPug

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to go with you. Would be a great trip!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes fake parts are a problem, but what i think happed in this case is that Bosch buys these parts for older cars from another party and sticks them in a Bosch packaging without checking.

  • @tjroelsma

    @tjroelsma

    2 жыл бұрын

    A French car with Italian electronics, what can go wrong? Seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if Magneti Marelli originally used some Italian cranksensor that's fully identical to a Bosch but with some connectorpins swapped. It wouldn't be the first time an Italian company used a "trick" like this to sell their own product. So I don't think it's a Bosch problem but rather a Magneti Marelli problem.

  • @daveklassen7052

    @daveklassen7052

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan I think the parts were intended for the UK market, where everything is left-handed ....

  • @mcautodatas
    @mcautodatas2 жыл бұрын

    Excellent diagnosis. This video proves that even new premium parts can be faulty and for different reasons. Great video!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @TyroneMaye

    @TyroneMaye

    Жыл бұрын

    shows there charging way too much for those faulty so called premium parts... i wonder how are they verifying that the parts made from production truly actually work as they say they supposed to....🤔 for the cash prices there being sold to consumers for...i get it that without having a skilled tech with the wear with all to do what this mechanic here has done ....its same thing shop would be telling consumer X Y Z and the consumer would be in essence throwing money at the vehicle with out there being any real meaningful input to solve the problem... guess sometimes less known name brand parts work more efficiently then does the known name brand auto parts guess folks are participating in a crap shoot swhen it comes to purchasing some parts i suppose ...

  • @Karelvermaere
    @Karelvermaere2 жыл бұрын

    Hi Dan, great video! Brought back some memories as I had the exact same issue a few years ago on an old renault scenic. It had a bad crank sensor (also inductive 2 wire, the ones on top of the gearbox mounted with 2 M6 bolts) when you buy a new one most of the time it comes with a new connector they want you to solder in to the cars wiring. Probably because these connectors go bad easely. I don’t remember the brand, but they also had the colors switched on the new connector and after installing we had a no start. I was looking on the scope for full 2 days until I found that indeed the signal was inverted and the ecu did not see this as a problem but just ignores the signal. So when I knew this I just had to switch the 2 wires and the car started right up. Very very frustrating! So thanks again for this video, I’m sure it will help some people out. Take care! Karel

  • @andythomas7931
    @andythomas793110 ай бұрын

    OMG what a brilliant feel good video bless you Dan for helping the owners. I felt like I was watching a Hollywood movie at the edge of my seat. FANTASTIC!

  • @boosteddiesel1834
    @boosteddiesel18342 жыл бұрын

    Great video!, thanks very much. You were actually right, I never did expect that l, but hey it happens. In the words of Eric O “just because it’s new, doesn’t mean it’s good”. Good on you for sticking it out to the end. Keep up the good work 👍

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, and Eric is right!

  • @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics
    @PineHollowAutoDiagnostics2 жыл бұрын

    One word: MERCEDES!! ;) But at least the Mercedes was flashing the Crank Sensor code lol... Your Peugeot gave no clues at all! Now what signal was the signal generator putting out to be recognized by the ECM? Surprised that it worked because the ECM seemed very picky about the signal 🤔👌

  • @mikesabin8568

    @mikesabin8568

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have that same tool dan has. Autosim pro. It has presets. Just hook tool up to battery, go under sensor sim and choose crankshaft sensor. There is Hall effect and inductive choice, select inductive for this application and play with settings until you get read out on data pid

  • @adotintheshark4848

    @adotintheshark4848

    2 жыл бұрын

    My '94 BMW 740 crank sensor started being intermittent as well, with no code. Finally it too quit altogether and wouldn't start. At the time I didn't even know it was the crank sensor until I had to try to get the car running again.

  • @MicraHakkinen

    @MicraHakkinen

    2 жыл бұрын

    I suspect it's just that the ECU is designed to trigger on a specific waveform, for example a rising edge followed directly by a falling edge. There's probably a filter and/or waveform trigger in the electronics to eliminate noise and false triggers, which then only passes on a clean pulse to the rest of the ECU if it detects the correct waveform. And with the BOSCH sensor presenting the rising and falling edge inverted, no signal would ever make it past the ECU's input conditioning. Which would also explain why there was no fault code set: the ECU never even knew the engine was supposed to be running.

  • @waterheaterservices

    @waterheaterservices

    2 жыл бұрын

    We bought a new Volvo 264 in 1976 with the Renault Pugeot V6. I am still mad at France 🤣

  • @clueless6559

    @clueless6559

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ivan , the ECM if it could read the Bosch sensor it would think the engine was turning backwards when cranking with the reverse polarity sensor , if that makes sense , not come across a code for cranking backwards yet 🙃

  • @Rhaman68
    @Rhaman688 ай бұрын

    By FAR, one of the best diagnose Dan videos! A true detective story full of compassion and technical expertise! Thanks Dan.

  • @billrimmer5596
    @billrimmer55967 ай бұрын

    Good morning Dan. I just watched this video again. Repetition is the mother of retention. Thanks again. It’s gloomy and rainy in Sunny California

  • @The_Redkween
    @The_Redkween2 жыл бұрын

    Time for another Diagnose Dan video! Can’t wait! Already liked and ready to go!

  • @jimyep9971

    @jimyep9971

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same here

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣👍

  • @markmagee2382
    @markmagee23822 жыл бұрын

    Whow, I’ve never been into diagnosis as was way above my head but you provide it in such a simple way it’s easy to follow. I’ll be more sceptical of branded parts in future if replacing and no cure. Thank you and brill sorting that car out for the owners, their mobility will have been so important for them 👍

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    The owners were very gratefull !

  • @sid-craftbuilder675
    @sid-craftbuilder6752 жыл бұрын

    Dan, Just ran across your channel and love it. There is a channel by Mr. Carlson's Lab and he is a genius when it comes to electronics (radio, etc) and after watching several of your videos, I must say you are a genius when it comes to automotive diagnosis. Very educational watching you chase down and fixing problems. Please keep doing what you do best.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you very much, i'll have a look at Mr. Carlsons channel👍

  • @MrByootox
    @MrByootox2 жыл бұрын

    Great find Dan !, have to admit I didn't notice the inverted signal till you pointed it out. Very easy to miss that one indeed ! I've had this with Bosch map sensors from Euro before. The time wasted on cheap crap parts not only makes you doubt your initial diagnosis on these jobs but also lost revenue on easier jobs. Thanks for the video.

  • @GeminiSeven43
    @GeminiSeven432 жыл бұрын

    I Love these video's especially when it comes to a problem that stumps the professionals like yourself. Bad parts are the plague of the future I'm afraid and your video showing the diagnosis and the use of the Pico scope to help identify these nightmares is a Blessing to all of us who don't have the real world experience that you do. Thank you so much Dan for taking us with you on these journeys into the unknown, you truly are a great teacher.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great comment it's appriciated

  • @englishbob5106

    @englishbob5106

    2 жыл бұрын

    🇬🇧 Bad parts are also a plague of the past also !

  • @robertwilliams4327

    @robertwilliams4327

    Жыл бұрын

    I am not surprised I bought a Bosch o2 sensor and it was NBG. Mech friend said they the wire them wrongly. GRRRRR.

  • @Alanw74
    @Alanw742 жыл бұрын

    Interesting to see what Bosch have to say about this.... You expect better from them

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe we get some feedback from them

  • @onemechca
    @onemechca2 жыл бұрын

    WOW.....WOW....Excellent diagnosis and explanation Dan. I tip my hat to you for being so determined in finding he cause. Keep up the good work sir.

  • @imperativeemarketing5546
    @imperativeemarketing55469 ай бұрын

    I liked your video and I'm going to watch more of them. I ran across your video doing some research for a 1998 Dodge Dakota occasional stall problem. As a former California state licensed smog mechanic (1990) your video reminded me of the good old days when I worked in a shop and whenever they had a vehicle diagnosis which no one could figure out, they would give it to me and I would solve it in no time. It's been a while, but I know I'll have no problem with the Dodge... and I'll enjoy watching some more of your videos... thanks for the great entertainment.

  • @whathasxgottodowithit3919.
    @whathasxgottodowithit3919.2 жыл бұрын

    Would a genuine OEM part have worked? Great diagnosis by the way

  • @BlarginBro

    @BlarginBro

    2 жыл бұрын

    I believe Bosch is oem

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes it proberbly would have. The original was made by Siemens.

  • @wyattoneable
    @wyattoneable2 жыл бұрын

    I sure appreciate that you did this process all over again. I always learn a lot here. Oh my goodness, that was it? Wow. I don't want to give it away but that was very interesting and yes, who should pay for that? A great question.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Normally i wouldn't bother filming something like this, but this one turned into something special🤣

  • @PurityVendetta
    @PurityVendetta2 жыл бұрын

    Well done Dan. Just proves, despite the evidence, there are good people left helping people when they need it. I'm really glad you did the test inverting the signal from the Bosch sensor at the end for proof of the hypothesis. Great video, these are the jobs I really enjoy.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Me too, Just not to often🤣🤣

  • @raymondhardie3880
    @raymondhardie3880 Жыл бұрын

    Amazing and so telling of faulty new parts. I have ran into similar problems not only with electrical sensors and switches, but also with mechanical parts that were not properly built and failed to work thereby causing me to go thru different manufacturers of similar parts in order to get a correct working replacement. Thank you for posting this video and identifying a problem which was overly exasperated due to poor quality replacement parts.

  • @paulhutchins6019
    @paulhutchins60192 жыл бұрын

    Wow, so well done Dan and credit to you for not charging a disabled customer for all that time, very honourable. I now work for a charity that has vehicles like that and the replacement costs are outrageous considering that there's not much in the back apart from the ramp and some chair attachment points. Some do have lowering rear suspension, but hard to justify the phenomenal prices!

  • @bystander1489

    @bystander1489

    2 жыл бұрын

    Charites are tax free

  • @paulhutchins6019

    @paulhutchins6019

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@bystander1489 but the vehicles are not! We've just spent nearly £70,000 on one!

  • @GNX157

    @GNX157

    2 жыл бұрын

    My guess would be because it’s all custom work and the parts are small batch plus maybe the huge costs of getting the vehicle crash test certified again? And of course since insurance probably pays in many instances, that will immediately make the costs be higher.

  • @paulhutchins6019

    @paulhutchins6019

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@GNX157 but the vehicles use type approved modifications so they don't have to be individually certified 🤷🏼‍♂️

  • @GNX157

    @GNX157

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@paulhutchins6019 I didn’t mean individually vehicle approved. I mean that overall model car retested after the disability system kit was designed for sale.

  • @twinbmx1
    @twinbmx12 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video! Thank you so much for showing why the Bosch sensor was failed and not just the fact it was failed made total sense. For the few years I’ve been in the trade I know unfortunately we can’t always trust new parts. Even oem sometimes. New Parts failures exist. Good job again Dan!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching Jordan

  • @JasonSpiffy
    @JasonSpiffy9 ай бұрын

    You are the Eric O of Europe! Only difference is your shop is always quiete while Eric’s is loud!!! Keep the videos coming!!!

  • @davidbarton7463
    @davidbarton74637 ай бұрын

    Happy days when you can fix at another level, your smile says it all. Well done I'm proud of you.

  • @konezoumana614
    @konezoumana6142 жыл бұрын

    Very good lesson. Always happy to learn with you. Thank you so much Dan!!!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @richard1835
    @richard18352 жыл бұрын

    That was just absolutely amazing but makes alot of sense. the amplitude can just be off ever so slightly to cause an issue and this would include other sensors as well. You certainly have the equipment and knowledge to solve these issues. Great diagnostic video.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching

  • @viktortoghia6066
    @viktortoghia6066 Жыл бұрын

    I have also been in this industry for 20+ years and seen the new parts more and more times being defective. It is hard to do your job when you expect the new parts to be good and they turn out bad. Great job, love your chanel.

  • @spelunkerd
    @spelunkerd2 жыл бұрын

    It's nice to see you do some more complex diagnostics, even though I understand how it might mess up your shop work flow. I was surprised this crank sensor is the old style VR sensor rather than a hall effect sensor. What an interesting final diagnosis.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Its an old car😉

  • @TyroneMaye

    @TyroneMaye

    Жыл бұрын

    what's the difference between the VR sensor and the Hall Effect sensor ?

  • @spelunkerd

    @spelunkerd

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TyroneMaye Variable Reluctance sensors produce their own voltage by placing a magnet and a coil beside a steel toothed hub that rotates by, and it produces a sine wave that varies in amplitude and frequency. They have two wires. Hall effect sensors have at least three wires, they require input voltage and ground, they have internal electronics that produce a square wave from a rotating magnetic strip. They are more expensive, more delicate and more accurate, especially for slow rotation rates. Wikipedia has more detail.

  • @TyroneMaye

    @TyroneMaye

    Жыл бұрын

    @@spelunkerd thank you for taking the time to explain the difference of them both to me.

  • @katadafareed6651
    @katadafareed66512 жыл бұрын

    Great work Dan, I had a similar experience with a V8 Audi 80 for a friend collecting dust for years, using the oscilloscope function of Carman Scan VG+ it turned out the timing pin the crank flywheel was broken.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great find!!

  • @arga1966
    @arga19662 жыл бұрын

    Great job Dan And well done for doing the job for free You are a Legend 🤗🤗🤗

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you 😁 👍

  • @dalehamlin7383
    @dalehamlin73832 жыл бұрын

    The very best automotive channel on KZread by far. Pure entertaining enjoyment and highly educational. Thanks for taking the time and patience to share this with us. You are a true leader in your craft....!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Great comment! and thank you for taking the time to leave a comment!

  • @solagesture.9982
    @solagesture.9982 Жыл бұрын

    Well done Dan. Thank you for sharing this video. I have to show this to my mechanic.

  • @ehsnils
    @ehsnils2 жыл бұрын

    This was really an interesting one, I started to think that maybe the ECU wasn't properly grounded since I have experienced that once. Sometimes you need to pay a bit to learn a lot more. This is also why I don't fully trust codes given by an ECU.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching!

  • @MrBrander

    @MrBrander

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yeah. The error codes given by the ECU are only as smart as the ones who designed them. Also ECU error codes require a lot of sensors and other ways to follow and diagnose the engine condition to be accurate. Fewer sensors and methods more approximate and thereabout the error codes are.

  • @Prometheus1954
    @Prometheus19542 жыл бұрын

    Great video Dan. That is so mess up that Bosch got the wiring reversed on the sensor. Great job as always. I do enjoy to seeing your approach to solving issues like this.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Steven, i see this happening more often and its not just Bosch

  • @Prometheus1954

    @Prometheus1954

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Diagnosedan I see it too in alternators starters and other sensors here in the USA.

  • @partero01
    @partero01 Жыл бұрын

    Unbelievable I know nothing about cars, but got hooked on how you diagnosed this problem! I also loved the outtakes - Tac - Om - Meter (RPM gauge ).

  • @brathishan5611
    @brathishan56112 жыл бұрын

    Discovered this channel 3 days ago and binge watched all the videos, look forward to more. Thanks Dan.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ha ha that's great, thanks for watching my video's its really appriciated

  • @4l5m6e1n
    @4l5m6e1n2 жыл бұрын

    great video Dan! I thought Bosch was supposed to be a reliable brand, but apparently not.

  • @khalidacosta7133

    @khalidacosta7133

    2 жыл бұрын

    I stopped buying Bosch a while ago when the quality dropped. Maybe it's just for aftermarket parts, with OEM products still being made in house but aftermarket, source out production to cheaper manufacturers I reckon!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    I think they buy these parts for older cars from another party and sticks them in a Bosch packaging without checking.

  • @brianmiller6320
    @brianmiller63202 жыл бұрын

    I would be happy to come over and crank the car for you for free, your channel is one of the most interesting automotive content channels. Keep up the good work. Maybe the sensor has been magnetised in the opposite polarity, put a compass needle next to both sensors and see.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the feedback!

  • @carlt6932
    @carlt69323 ай бұрын

    You are one of the few that puts videos out that teach great techniques. Most need to be labeled For Entertainment Purposes Only. Thank you Dan.

  • @markhale4255
    @markhale42559 ай бұрын

    I’m in Florida, you blew my mind!! I have an 2007 gmc 1500 4x4 I rebuilt my Motor. Crank no start first same 3 try it starts , runs great . But still crank no start . I replaced the camshaft sensor . I will buy a gm sensor and give it a shot. Thanks so much for sharping a great video

  • @bernardaflores1720
    @bernardaflores17202 жыл бұрын

    Great video, it just shows you how crazy the aftermarket parts world is with bad parts, fake parts and lots of quality issues. We are buying used OEM parts to replace does that fail. You at least get a much better part at a lower price point.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    OEM is the safe way to go for sensors for sure!

  • @isalmankhan1
    @isalmankhan12 жыл бұрын

    Awesome👍 Thanks for sharing Dan👍 It could be easily a part's canon, especially when the signal was making it to the PCM, indeed a very tough one, but you fixed it😍 DiagnoseDan Fixed it Again, Stay Safe Bro❤

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks!!!

  • @mansouralblooshi3004
    @mansouralblooshi30042 жыл бұрын

    Another piece of info fed to my low memory brain 😄 Thank you Dan 👍

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    😁👍

  • @fivedotsdave9723
    @fivedotsdave97232 жыл бұрын

    Dan, that was a great educational lesson, you are a very generous person by helping that family in their hour of need....

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    The owner was very gratefull

  • @PhillipBailey
    @PhillipBailey2 жыл бұрын

    Funny thing I was mentioning this to my students today about a magnetic pulse generator being reversed polarity. I've seen that before several times but those were due to someone replacing the pigtail in the harness. One was on a Caddy with dual crank sensors for redundancy but with one signal inverted the ignition module would not process either so crank no start. You would only catch this with a lab scope but you need a known good signal for comparison. Another was on a GM 3.1 were the wires were crossed and it acted like it was out of time. It would fire but not run and then foul the plugs. Good find. I would not have expected this from Bosch. I usually try to use oe sensors whenever possible.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    OEM is the safe choice when it comes to sensors!

  • @davyboy380
    @davyboy3802 жыл бұрын

    Good man Dan, your a diamond of a feller for helping others who are in need and also teaching others the tips and tricks of the trade. Great videos Dan..Thanks mate.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you David

  • @dblomvo7732
    @dblomvo77322 ай бұрын

    Scary, when used good OEM parts and don’t work, but it happens. Thank you Dan, appreciate you. My prayers for you and your family for abundance of blessings. Stay safe peace

  • @alexys16
    @alexys162 жыл бұрын

    you are the BEST...it is not the first time I state this....especially for explaining the fault behind the rise and falling signal cause of the bosch sensor signal....that makes the difference between what you and other people who make teaching material videos

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Alex

  • @mechanior6483
    @mechanior64832 жыл бұрын

    another good job, you should upload videos more often, even for simple repairs. it's invaluable learning to be able to watch you solve even the most complex faults step by step. I've been watching you since you had 10,000 subscriptions and you still surprise me, you do it great. Greetings :)

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow thank you for sticking with me for all these years its appriciated

  • @wurlyone4685
    @wurlyone46852 жыл бұрын

    Sure didn't see that one coming. I thought it was going to be something far more plausibly random like an immobiliser switch wired into the aftermarket rear hatch/wheelchair ramp setup, to inhibit starting in case that wasn't stowed correctly! Would love to know what Bosch have to say about this?

  • @gailtaylor1636

    @gailtaylor1636

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exactly my thought too. It was too simple.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Bosch Will respond😁

  • @Rift45
    @Rift4511 ай бұрын

    Wow!! Amazing work Dan

  • @phyllismassey5780
    @phyllismassey57805 ай бұрын

    Thanks so much for this informative video. I'm not a mechanic but grew up near many. Just a woman who isn't afraid of learning how to make repairs on my own vehicle.

  • @adrianvalbuena8158
    @adrianvalbuena81582 жыл бұрын

    When I teach automotive electronics I always bring my old electric guitar to my class to see the phase phenomenon on inductive sensors, it has a pickup setup to invert one of the signals from a pickup, so it sounds like chorus effect when mixed, we use to record smoke on the water using inductive sensors XD, and we can see the signal pattern on the pico. VERY good video Dan, keep this line, I love it!!!!!!!!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for watching and leaving a comment it's appriciated

  • @dubblyewjay1133

    @dubblyewjay1133

    2 жыл бұрын

    Ok! I need you to build me one for me to play SOTW, the forbidden riff in music stores.😉

  • @DTEAuto
    @DTEAuto2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing this one with us all, as always with these type of diags , persistency is what pays off in getting to the end. Not too mention the power of the scope to be able to let you "see" the "why" to the situation of one sensor working and the other not. Appreciate all the effort as always!

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great comment it's appriciated

  • @SKJulesADL
    @SKJulesADL2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you for sharing your thorough troubleshooting methodology with us Dan! Quality content as usual.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the great comment it's appriciated Julian

  • @Vikingdescendent
    @Vikingdescendent Жыл бұрын

    Great job! Going through this turn over no start on my 2004 Volvo S60. Everything was tested and the suspect at the moment is the ECM. Going to send it out for testing.

  • @HashiriyaSquadron
    @HashiriyaSquadron2 жыл бұрын

    At first I thought you may have overlooked a blown ECU fuse or a broken signal wire to the ECU. But good work as always.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have checked all of that😯

  • @HelgiThorisson
    @HelgiThorisson2 жыл бұрын

    Great video. Throughout the years I have seen a few faulty new parts. They are not always cheap aftermarket parts. It is frustrating that you can not rely on the new part being okay. Are we supposed to test all the new parts before installing them? Who is paying for that? Actually someone could start a new business that evolves around testing parts before they are sold over the counter. 😀

  • @TheFrenchPug

    @TheFrenchPug

    2 жыл бұрын

    We truly do need something or someone that can test them before installing. There is no more quality control from the manufacturers apparently.

  • @flaviokonti5522

    @flaviokonti5522

    2 жыл бұрын

    And who is gonna pay for testing? I dont think manufacturers have intention paying for something they were supposed to do in the first place, let alone pay somebody else to test their shit. And I dont think customer will want to knowingly buy untested product and then take it to somebody for testing and be additionaly charged for this lol. Thats why you have consumer rights to return any defect product and have another one or money back, and store then returns the faulty part to manufacturer. The only one who is at loss here is car technican who wastes time and cant charge it to anybody, but then again thats why they charge replacements at premium timings so its a closed circle 😂

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤣🤣👍

  • @davechapman7735
    @davechapman7735 Жыл бұрын

    you are a true legend! way above my head but pretty to watch Dan. cheers NZ

  • @mrBDeye
    @mrBDeye2 жыл бұрын

    We shall call you Doctor Dan. You are incredibly knowledgeable.

  • @chewykarma
    @chewykarma2 жыл бұрын

    Easy to get caught up in the weird science of the repair, but it is Dan's dedication to making a plan and then working the plan that was the big takeaway for me. “Assembly of Japanese bicycle require great peace of mind.” Robert Pirsig.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the comment

  • @edwardmetselaar2042
    @edwardmetselaar20422 жыл бұрын

    Great!!! Thanks for sharing!!! What did Bosch say in a reaction?

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Have not spoken to the suplier yet

  • @SS-U23
    @SS-U23 Жыл бұрын

    Thank you so much, Dan. Awesome knowledge and very logical approach.

  • @02dag32
    @02dag322 жыл бұрын

    Your troubleshooting capabilities are excellent. The way you break it down is the way to do it. When you hit a dead end, the only thing to do is to start over once more and investigate the basic things that you know have to work first.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment it's appriciated

  • @The_Redkween
    @The_Redkween2 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video as usual, Dan! I was guessing a 5 volt ref getting pulled down and was wrong.

  • @dennisphoenix1

    @dennisphoenix1

    2 жыл бұрын

    It was a good guess . 😉

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    I also thought that at some point and checked that. Could have been!

  • @sidm3300
    @sidm33002 жыл бұрын

    A very interesting video, and very well presented. Subbed straight away. As a mechanic in the 60's and 70's I'm amazed at how ridiculously complicated cars have become. I left the trade in '76 and didn't get involved with it again until I retired from working eight years ago. Since then I've watched all kinds of videos of this sort and finally found your channel. You have a great way of explaining things and I'll be binge watching all your content.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thats great to hear, thanks for Subscribing!

  • @ralfeotto4468
    @ralfeotto44682 жыл бұрын

    Dan, my respect for figuring this out. I understand the the frusrationt however in eliminating one path over another a brilliant result.

  • @Diagnosedan

    @Diagnosedan

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks Ralf

  • @TruthLifeFinder
    @TruthLifeFinder2 жыл бұрын

    You always incredible and very clear n precise on your analysis. Well Done! DAN.

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