1995: WINDOWS 95 launch - is Microsoft too big? | Newsnight | Retro Tech | BBC Archive
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Windows 95 has been launched, to the strains of Start Me Up by the Rolling Stones. The operating system is Microsoft's most important software product to date, and is expected to find its way onto as much as 80% of all personal computers. Much has been made of the Microsoft Network, which sees Microsoft aggressively position Windows as an online service. BBC Newsnight's Graham Ingham visits Seattle, the home of the computer giant, to ask industry insiders whether Bill Gates' ambitions to be dominant in every sphere of PC software is good for the industry.
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Start Me Up was a good pick, Windows 95 did make plenty of grown men cry.
@johnj3577
Жыл бұрын
I'm still not over all the illegal operations I performed back then. Feel so guilty.
4:01 I remember in the 1990s surfing the information superhighway really was an event. You’d get dressed up turn off the lights put on some Kraftwerk…. and spin around. Now people just slobber over their phones and tablets all day and night without as much as a 180. Where’s the magic? Where’s the suspenders? Where’s the German techno? Where’s the dizziness induced vomiting?
@anonUK
Жыл бұрын
I 'm old school- I can't use the Internet on my PC unless I'm bathed in magenta light, sitting at my computer on a rotating platform cut into the middle of the floor of an empty room, using a DOS-based Internet browser designed by someone at BBC Newsnight. The experimental-era techno, though? I can take it or leave it.
@usernameonutube
Жыл бұрын
Ahh the days of only catching a glimpse of your blurry monitor per rotation
@johnj3577
Жыл бұрын
Personally, I miss the screeching 14.4k modem being part of the experience.
@spider-ham7140
Жыл бұрын
Lol sounds like you had quiet the experience back in the day
@Spayyce
Жыл бұрын
reddit
Legend says Microsoft asked the Rolling Stones how much to license Start Me Up. They said $10 million as a joke. Microsoft paid it.
@TheUtuber999
Жыл бұрын
One of the lines in that song is, "You make a grown man cry."
@amit4Bihar
Жыл бұрын
They were promoting Information Superhighway, an alternative to internet but owned by big corporations. If that had succeeded, there would be no Google Facebook Uber Twitter torrents VPN KZread and so on
@amit4Bihar
Жыл бұрын
If information Superhighway had become successful, the progress of everything would have shifted by many decades
@jessepatterson8897
Жыл бұрын
this was their second choice, i don't remember the first choice but they refused under any circumstances. They were hated, and should have been. At the time they still had quicktime code in windows.
@thedopplereffect00
Жыл бұрын
@@amit4Bihar and yet here at are with most of the internet centralized to a handful of big tech companies. Not distributed as it was originally intended.
Those celebrity impersonators were spot on! I thought that was actually Princess Diana and Jack Nickelson!
@godzilla928
Жыл бұрын
Jick Nickelson and Princess Diona*
@arvindhmani06
13 күн бұрын
They need to stop nickel and diming everything!
2:50 might be the coolest news package ever filmed.
@folksurvival
7 ай бұрын
It's very similar to the style used in the 1995 movie Hackers.
@cygil1
Ай бұрын
I'M USING A COMPUTER!!!!!! LIKE IN TRON!!!!
Microsoft started to get big with Windows 3.1 (1991-ish?) but yeah Windows 1995 was a flagship in that Windows have looked similar layout-wise for the next couple of decades. Even Windows 10 / 11 is still visually similar, just the start menu placement is different
@jessepatterson8897
Жыл бұрын
@@josehenriq90 lmao kid, they couldn’t even play video frames without dropping them without stealing QuickTime tech from apple. You have no idea
@hjf3022
Жыл бұрын
@@jessepatterson8897 but what is The relevance to the content you are responding to?
@godzilla928
Жыл бұрын
@@jessepatterson8897 stole? developing =/= stealing if i develop something that someone else did before me does not mean i stole it from him xd also defending Jobs saying that someone stole something from him is a little bit hypocritical considering how much money he basically stole from people with the prices of 'his products'... oh and what about stolen lifes and work camps? You forgot to mention about his cool work facilities where hundreds of thousands of people work 12-18h a day for a dogshit salary where in some of such places they even have to live there which basically makes them become a slaves. What about suicides which practically became part of the facilitie's normal daily rutine and everyone already used to them? Who cares, rotation is so big that there will always be someone to fill the empty 'space'. Jobs was brillian, yes... but he cared more about the money than about lifes of the people he hired and that made him just cruel so saying 'ohohohoh poor Steavie got robbed' sounds just pathetically ridiculous
1990s Microsoft: Are they becoming too big? 2020s Google: Hold my keyboard...
@medes5597
8 ай бұрын
I wish 2020s Google would do something as epoch defining and brilliant as windows 95. Don't get me wrong, you're right. But windows 95s launch was such a unique moment in computing history
@bchristian85
7 ай бұрын
I'd say Google Earth/Maps and Android is their Windows 95. Those two products changed our world more than people realize. Before Google Maps, you would use the yellow pages to find what you wanted and then use Mapquest, or if you went back far enough, pull out a road map of your city.@@medes5597
@maximusg88
3 ай бұрын
Apple - hold my ecosystem
@HemantKumar-id3jg
3 ай бұрын
@@maximusg88That company being that overvalued is just stupid.
That company, Intuit, is still going. And it's become just like Microsoft, a big company buying up the competition, lobbying, defrauding and so on.
@lordvader3697
Жыл бұрын
Google?
@hjf3022
Жыл бұрын
@@lordvader3697 ...was not around in 1995
These days a new version of windows hardly even gets a mention on mainstream news it's become so ubiquitous.
@Kleineganz
Жыл бұрын
Yup, exactly. They have market saturation, so they don't need to spend the big bucks marketing it anymore.
@bchristian85
7 ай бұрын
These days, most people don't want new Windows features. They just want good enough left alone, something MS has had trouble doing since XP. In the Windows 95 days on the other hand, it really upgraded the capability of your computer compared to Windows 3.1.
@TurboMintyFresh
Ай бұрын
There hasnt been a huge jump in quality like since then so why would they bother
This is competent journalism.
This was our first family computer. It was a family occasion to turn it on. It later got handed down to me. It had quite a nice aesthetic to it, and it really felt like you were using a tool, as opposed to PCs and laptops now.
@OctavioGaitan
5 ай бұрын
Because back then, computers weren't filled with the junk, microtransactions, paid features, and loot boxes that modern computers have today.
@lifesbutastumble
5 ай бұрын
Meanwhile, 2000's toolbars and viruses enter the chat... @@OctavioGaitan
@jonathannixon8652
4 ай бұрын
🎉😂 We did the same. We got home internet as soon as it became available. No one we knew had it yet and people would come over to marvel over it.
@jonathannixon8652
4 ай бұрын
I had the first Apple desktop computer as soon as it became available for market. Huge loud computer the fans were loud but it worked amazing for a first time computer to the masses.
I was working for an independent computer retailer at the time Win95 went on sale. The sudden popularity of people buying an OS in such high quantities was one of the most memorable recollections I have of the decade I spent working in it (87 to 97).
At 4:27 anyone else hear a random Owen Wilson "Wow!"?
Look how sane and dignified people were back then
@sarahnadeofpoetry
6 ай бұрын
I wonder about that. The mention of the Ferryman as an example of monopolisation and the use of 'demon du jour', plus the way people took time to pause and think about what they were about to say, is all kinds of stunning to me. I don't feel like you get that level of thoughtfulness in today's news segments :\
@italianjesus99
Ай бұрын
No grotty tracksuits or kids screaming
@user-ve3gh5xg9q
Ай бұрын
XX century
Nice use of "I miss you" by Björk at 2:51
"Windows 95 is only an operating system, and it is not where the future lies" - Right, computer is not the thing, it is a thing that gets us to the thing.
@daithiocinnsealach3173
Жыл бұрын
What is the thing it gets us to?
@vrclckd-zz3pv
Жыл бұрын
@@daithiocinnsealach3173 I'm pretty sure it's a quote stolen from a TV show called "Halt and Catch Fire", unless the show stole the quote from someone real. It is an extremely underrated drama loosely based on true events from the early computing industry. Edit: The actual quote is "Computers aren’t the thing. They’re the thing that gets us to the thing" and it does seem to originate from HaCF. Seriously go watch it. It's my favourite TV show. Kinda like Madmen but better imo.
It's worth noting that PCs after the launch of Windows 95 are different from the PC of 1994 and before. After Windows 95, you had PCs supporting optical media, plug-and-play, USB, and modern networking.
Was the music licensed from Kraftwerk ? 😁. It is stunningly similar to one of their tracks...
Windows95 had more bugs in it than a Malayan Jungle
@godzilla928
Жыл бұрын
examples?
@crumplezone1
Жыл бұрын
@@godzilla928 counter wrapping bug
Microsoft ended up bailing out Apple in 1997 by making a $150 million investment and preventing them going bust, because of anti trust laws that prevent complete monopolies in an industry developing. They needed another business in the industry that was large enough but obviously not big enough to be a threat. They underestimated Apple though. While they both now have gargantuan $2 trillion+ market caps, Apple is worth around 20-25% more at the time of writing and makes some $100 billion net profit as opposed to Microsoft's 'modest' $73 billion.
@godzilla928
Жыл бұрын
ah yes. apple bigger, better and hah 'underestimated'... why didn't you mention the prices of their products? maybe because it never makes you better if you charge more, huh? maybe because it makes you just... more expensive
@elastronaute1198
Жыл бұрын
@@godzilla928 I have no idea what your point is. I was talking about market caps and their relative penetration of the IT industry. I do not own any apple products at all. I personally feel they are over priced for what they are, but that has nothing to do with business success. That is largely down to effective marketing. So again, no idea what you're saying at all.
@medes5597
8 ай бұрын
As Bill Gates said - Steve spent twenty years telling Gates and anyone who listened that Apple was going to be the first computer company that was also an aspirational lifestyle brand. They were going to sell millions of computers at prices that no one would expect because they were selling a lifestyle. Gates thought that'd never happen. And it happened pretty much exactly as Steve told them it would and made them the premium brand of the computing world.
Windows 95 is what got my Dad to buy a PC.m, even though we don't get internet until years later. Both felt like a huge event for a kid who was 14 at the time.
We were so incredibly innocent back then, and so incredibly naiive about what the future would really hold for the computer and internet industry.
@TurboMintyFresh
Ай бұрын
We wouldnt be able to handle the truth back then if we could see what has happened to the world because of the internet
@alexanderharris8310
Ай бұрын
@@TurboMintyFreshcall me stupid but what do you mean?
@alexanderharris8310
Ай бұрын
Sorry, what do you mean?
They should have made the default background dark blue, given the amount of BSODs in that release.
Back in the 90s companies encouraged laid back attitudes and creativity that created some of the most memorable innovations. Now in 2024 it's all corporate suits , AI and profits.
Hmmm, forced to used 95 until the revelation of XP and then I was sold.
@zaftra
Ай бұрын
I had windows 95 on mine form 97 when i got a pc to 2006 when I literally couldn't use it any more.
Win 95 was the start of Microsoft becoming aggressive & greedy. After the MSN thing came the Internet Explorer suits which only ended relatively recently by giving users the choice of their default browsers. But they still try crafty little tricks to take other choices away. And their contempt for the consumer can be measured in the quality of it's products and customer services in 2022.
@pkaulf
Жыл бұрын
MS were a predatory company from the very beginning. They screwed over Digital Research and CP/M when making the MS-DOS deal with IBM, amongst many other things.
@jondonnelly4831
Жыл бұрын
Windows 10 is quite good. 11 needs work yet.
@HalfdeadRider
Жыл бұрын
@@jondonnelly4831 I've been using 11 for a while now, I find nothing wrong with it. Also a couple of large updates in recent months have definitely improved it in many ways.
@davepegington9066
Жыл бұрын
Get Linux
@drifter402
Жыл бұрын
Nah they were doing some nasty stuff even during windows 3
Amiga 2000 on 04:00 spotted :)
@rc55uk
Жыл бұрын
Now there's a man who's keeping up with the Commmodore!
knock knock Prodigy WHO
Windows 95, my first operating system I used in 2001 when I was 6 playing Stronghold crusader Kings
When they kept shutting the computer labs down at uni to install windows 3.1 and 95, I did nothing but moan about it, little realising what historical times I was living through
does anyone know what riff that guitarist is playing? i would really like to learn it.
@godzilla928
Жыл бұрын
but you have camera zoomed in at his very fingers which were doing this very chords?
@mitchellgraham7060
Жыл бұрын
@@godzilla928 I want to know the song he's playing, that's all.
the PS/2 in the thumbnail would have run OS/2 which was far superior to 95 at the time
@rc55uk
Жыл бұрын
OS/2 users: "There are dozens of us! DOZENS!!!"
@Longlius
2 ай бұрын
Most PS/2s ended up running DOS and Windows because IBM made the completely nonsensical decision to not bundle their OS with the PS/2 line.
About Windows 95 - yet they use an Amiga 2000 at 2:49 and 3:56 to do the news story. :)
Can we have a video where Bill says "I am the danger!"?
is this good opperating systam wndwos 95?? Please respond Sent from Internet Explorer
@arvindhmani06
13 күн бұрын
Lveel palinyg fleid
Prodigy, AOL, Compuserve? All relics of the past. As for the Microsoft Network as a walled garden like the others, that was dead on arrival. Back then, I was using the free FidoNet via BBS systems.
@NateMusic-kg5ob
2 жыл бұрын
who asked
@Anthony-Testicali
2 жыл бұрын
My brother still has an Aol email account! He complains he regularly gets hacked.....are the two connected?
@Psy500
Жыл бұрын
In 1995 the Internet was still very young (Netscape only coming out at the end of 1994) and the services like Prodigy and Compuserve still were larger. They were offering Internet services as they saw the rapid rise of the Internet and their plan at the time was you'd get on the Internet through them as they would also be an ISP. AOL was the only one that managed this transition.
Windows 95 had its issues at launch, but OSR1 fixed a lot of these issues. It was succeeded by Windows 98 which was succeeded by the dumpster fire of Windows ME.
@stephthestar90
7 күн бұрын
Windows 98/SE was the best of the Windows 9x era, it was relatively stable and was the first version to be properly internet and USB ready. I used it until 2003 when my dad finally upgraded us to XP.
LMAO ohhhh 90s, you had no idea that in a little over 25 years the world wouldn't be afraid of little ol' *mIcROsOFt* but would instead be afraid of giants like Facebook, Google, Apple and Tik Tok.
@baileyharrison1030
5 ай бұрын
Microsoft is up there with them and is bigger than all but Apple.
5:19 Still can't understand how Apple have never been hit with that.
Is this the guy from grand designs
@mfk5533
2 жыл бұрын
No, but he does sound a lot like him
The Hegelian Di eclectic A real binopular monopular … I played Doom v3.1 on a win 95 Compaq Presario with a 100Meg processor, pre loaded with Magic Carpet not loading. (Why I bought the PC) Customer Service accidentally sent an Apple version disc of M.C. for my Windows computer and re-sent win95 version and even patched it with updated software via 9.6, 19.2 or 32 baud rate. Thanks, Billy Goat, goat, goat, goat, goat! 🐐 CD or vinyl. Both and more! There was this mod for Doom?…I never laughed so hard. Mr. Bridges kept telling me to put it in my pants as I picked up ammo…and what a big door that is. Thank Q. Siriusly. The Great Sag A in the Electric Sky. Thank you, beat generation and beyond.🐢 Thank you, grandma & grandpa. Thank goodness
Anyone know what the song is around 4:00 ?
@lipanook
Жыл бұрын
Home Computer by Kraftwerk
@leegoulding857
Жыл бұрын
@@lipanook Cheers David 👍 Great Tune.
@arvindhmani06
13 күн бұрын
@@leegoulding857 Try the original German version of the band 's music, they sound so much better imo and I don't even speak German
I miss my windows XP, it was the best for me.
Yo! the food services look exactly the same. The nerds are even drinking 'Talking Rain'
Time has lost all the overlays for the names etc! Doh!
wtf is Christian Bale doing here
@lordvader3697
Жыл бұрын
Where
@DagneZand
Жыл бұрын
@@lordvader3697 9:34 (he looks like that character from Big Short)
Windows would not become reliable till Windows Me and Vista.
@Kleineganz
Жыл бұрын
🤣
@godzilla928
Жыл бұрын
what!?!?!?!??
@godzilla928
Жыл бұрын
But you know that you just named two the most unreliable versions of Windows, right? ME was a total disaster and Vista was dquick cash grab just moments before the full Windows 7 was released :S
@Kleineganz
Жыл бұрын
@@godzilla928 I'm pretty sure Pye was joking.
It'll never catch on.
Great report as how Win95 was launched. Could you share this great documental in another languages as Spanish? I understand, the English is the universal but not the unique language. Thanks in advance!
@NickMullet
4 ай бұрын
Who’s going to change the language? It was made by the bbc in the 90s, you want someone to dub this whole thing?? 😂😂 Edit : why don’t you do it yourself?
1:10 did I just saw a UFO or weather balloon?
I like the introduction where they say that Microsoft wanted to catch up with an Apple Mac that was introduced over 10 years before, seems they are still playing catch up
@wistals3deniks
Жыл бұрын
Macos still lacks features in its gui that Microsoft and Linux have had since windows 7. Things like window snapping.
@varunemani
Жыл бұрын
@@wistals3deniks What are we on 32 bit pc's still, The real question is who really needs any of those windows snapping gimmicks in this day and age? Its full-screen baby or nothing for me! 🍷
@Kleineganz
Жыл бұрын
Macs are overpriced and only appeal to a niche market (they hover around 10-15% of all computer users). Windows overtook Macs decades ago.
I miss the name captions! Who is talking?
@prettypointlessvideo
Жыл бұрын
Me too,
@mikepanchaud1
Жыл бұрын
This looks like a Newsnight report. Often name supers were put on live via the studio as the taped report was played out. Caption generators (Aston) were very expensive and required a specialist operator. Also there probably was not time to add these prior to tx.
I've got Windows 95
Those 2 guys/experts from 0:33 to 1:04 are Dutch people. Just hearing that Thick Dutch accent lmao Mister Corona himself in the days where he still was experiencing with computer virus instead of real life viruses lmao
1995:Mummy mummy what's a PC? 2024:Mummy Mummy what's a PC!
@user-yj3kc9gh7i
Ай бұрын
?
Its time people took some time and effort to learn linux. Been a lifetime windows user, adopted ubuntu recently, great os.
@Animal_lives_matter
Жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm giving serious thought to this. Still using 7 for now
@gesugao
Жыл бұрын
@@Animal_lives_matter try a lts linux mint, the learning curve is not as steep, most of the things work out of the box, and it will help you ease into linux.
@Animal_lives_matter
Жыл бұрын
@Geo’s radio & musical stuff But apple tho
@himankan
Жыл бұрын
@Geo’s radio & musical stuff I usually never ask and just look it up in search. There was a recent video by someone who tried to get DaVinci resolve working and failed and he received the same treatment from some bad apples in the linux community. So I can understand the frustration.
@himankan
Жыл бұрын
@@gesugao I switched from windows to ubuntu lts. It wasn't too different and felt like using an android tablet emulator
IT WILL NEVER CATCH ON !
Was this about Microsoft or APPLE ?!?
Imagine being today's apple at that antimonopolistic era
When Apple was only a few years away from hring steve jobs again because it was in big big trouble.
This is so negative. Starts off saying windows is only doing what apple done years ago, goes on to say windows is starting a monopoly with its new system. Hilarious.
And now it is crystal clear what he truly represents and the agenda he is part of.
Microsoft got greedy after XP as from then on you had to buy Microsoft word and now all office products. That's crazy and greedy, if you buy a Microsoft then all products should be included.
@IkarusKommt
Жыл бұрын
You always had to buy MS Word and other office software.
@Kleineganz
Жыл бұрын
These days, all Windows computers come with the OS for free and they're letting you upgrade for free (I upgraded from 8.1 to 10 and then 10 to 11 for free). They make their money elsewhere (licensing OEM Windows to PC manufacturers, and of course subscriptions to Office 365, not to mention all the corporate level tools they create, like Microsoft Azure.
@steeviebops
Жыл бұрын
Windows and Office were always separate products.
Windows 95/98 was so unstable with daily crashes it pushed me to move to Linux.
@NateMusic-kg5ob
2 жыл бұрын
who asked
@djtomoy
2 жыл бұрын
Whoever shall mention windows must know they will hear the echo of Linux
@matsuz100
Жыл бұрын
I would need to reinstall Windows 95 and 98 every 4-6 months, it would start doing stupid action then get a digital paralysis. Window XP was much better, windows 11 seems solid once they work out what is hogging all the PCs resources.
@davidlister370
Жыл бұрын
ok
@ekemon631
Жыл бұрын
@@NateMusic-kg5ob Who permitted you to reply
Too big you say? HA...you have no idea. It is one of the Alphabet corps tthat run the world, but for now, it is just staring out. Look at how cute it is....awww.
0:40 Bill Gates invented Web3