1986: The Joy of E-MAIL | Micro Live | Retro Tech | BBC Archive

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It's one of the fastest growing applications in the world of personal computers, Fred Harris and Ian McNaught-Davis explore the exciting world of electronic mail, or email for short.
Your microprocessor is just a modem away from a wider world. But what exactly is email, and why are businesses and individuals turning to it? What benefits does email have over traditional forms of communication? What can we expect from this technology in the future?
All these questions and more shall be answered.
This clip is from Micro Live, originally broadcast 12 December, 1986.
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  • @Bertie_Ahern
    @Bertie_Ahern Жыл бұрын

    "...for some reason he looked different from the pics he emailed." And so catfishing was born.

  • @fidelcatsro6948

    @fidelcatsro6948

    Жыл бұрын

    meowmeow

  • @scaredyfish

    @scaredyfish

    Жыл бұрын

    It’s probably just because the photo was 4 colours and about 50 pixels.

  • @xr6lad

    @xr6lad

    Жыл бұрын

    First question to ask any Tinder date on the phone: what decade of the 20th century was your photo taken?

  • @NeverStopRolling
    @NeverStopRolling Жыл бұрын

    This youtube channel is probably the ONLY outlet of the BBC that understands its target audience. Maybe just after Radio 4...

  • @finnersmcspeed5646

    @finnersmcspeed5646

    Жыл бұрын

    Well BBC one does kinda have to appeal to everyone.

  • @krashd

    @krashd

    Жыл бұрын

    It's almost as if all of the other BBC video channels, radio stations and websites cater to a wide audience...

  • @Serreski

    @Serreski

    Жыл бұрын

    They couldn’t make that today. BBC is now only aimed at woke leftie morons. Utter bias with the sole aim of being woke. License needs to be scrapped.

  • @ToppyTree

    @ToppyTree

    Жыл бұрын

    I'm having a hard time understanding the depth of self centred naïveté in this comment

  • @CricketEngland
    @CricketEngland Жыл бұрын

    You would never believe this show was broadcast live

  • @beforedrrdpr

    @beforedrrdpr

    Жыл бұрын

    Say whaaat?

  • @CricketEngland

    @CricketEngland

    Жыл бұрын

    @@beforedrrdpr the show was originally broadcast live dummy

  • @mikcnmvedmsfonoteka

    @mikcnmvedmsfonoteka

    Жыл бұрын

    Live ? No way hmmm

  • @varunemani

    @varunemani

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice blast from the past! Though Social Media, snowballed being the qunessential ultimate evil born of the internet / E-mail revolution over the years world wide. And one which they would have never in their wildest dreams predicted back in 1986 into gaining supremacy in all of this! 🍷

  • @darrenbranagh

    @darrenbranagh

    2 ай бұрын

    It wasn't live!! Just called that.

  • @davidbull7210
    @davidbull7210 Жыл бұрын

    I never heard of email til about 1995 so it's weird seeing it being talked about a decade earlier.

  • @fidelcatsro6948

    @fidelcatsro6948

    Жыл бұрын

    spot on!

  • @TinLeadHammer

    @TinLeadHammer

    Жыл бұрын

    Had you heard of BBS or IRC?

  • @davidbull7210

    @davidbull7210

    Жыл бұрын

    @@TinLeadHammer NIH

  • @Springamatul

    @Springamatul

    Жыл бұрын

    I also didn’t know about email and internet until the mid nineties 🤔

  • @engineeredlifeform

    @engineeredlifeform

    Жыл бұрын

    It was mostly an academia and business thing in the 80s. Regular people didn't really become aware until the WWW became a thing, and people got online with the early ISPs. I was using multi user computer systems in the mid 80s, (DEC-20, VAX) and had access to email over JANET (Joint Academic NETwork), but it was to friends who were also in academia. Later in the 90s, working at a different Uni we were using Internet Protocols and email formats we are familiar with today, rather than the old JANET CBS format.

  • @Lofyne
    @Lofyne Жыл бұрын

    When they mentioned schools, I remember back in 1986/7 a friend at school was notified that he'd received a message from an old friend from another school on the library computer.

  • @PlanetImo
    @PlanetImo Жыл бұрын

    I didn't know email was around as early as this. I was 11 in 1986. I don't remember coming across it until the mid 90's, when the first of my friends had access to it at home.

  • @HOLLASOUNDS

    @HOLLASOUNDS

    Жыл бұрын

    What's shown here is not actually what would be classed as email today. It's more like teletext.

  • @futu1983

    @futu1983

    Жыл бұрын

    @@HOLLASOUNDS It certainly is email, just not on the interrnet.

  • @FlightEagle

    @FlightEagle

    Жыл бұрын

    SMTP, the same email protocol that is used today first was published in 1980. ARPANET, the Internet's precursor, had email from around 1971, in fact the use of username@hostname address format for email goes back to 1971. Email had been actively used for around 15 years before this programme was filmed.

  • @fabiennemitchell2371

    @fabiennemitchell2371

    Жыл бұрын

    @@FlightEagle That's interesting. As a young woman I worked for a company with international clients and sent mail by Telex. It was electronic but was it the email we understand today?

  • @enolamsamoht

    @enolamsamoht

    Жыл бұрын

    I was still on the other side somewhere waiting for my conception.

  • @bigbadwolf200335
    @bigbadwolf200335 Жыл бұрын

    What a lovely view from her office window.

  • @sporkfindus4777

    @sporkfindus4777

    10 ай бұрын

    What a nice comment.

  • @phillipecook3227
    @phillipecook3227 Жыл бұрын

    Fascinating to watch with the benefit of almost 40 years hindsight. Like many commenting here I first heard about e mail in the mid 1990s which means that being 27 years old at the time of this broadcast I like many others was guilty of being asleep at the IT wheel. But notice how even the experts hadn't grasped the huge implications of what was about to happen: " rival the telephone by 1995"? My God .....

  • @mattegeniet

    @mattegeniet

    Жыл бұрын

    I love the story of Donald Knuth (famous computer scientist), who _stopped_ using email in 1990, and hasn't used it since. At that point he had used it since 1975 and commented that "it seems to me that 15 years of email is plenty for one lifetime"

  • @WujiErTaiji

    @WujiErTaiji

    Жыл бұрын

    They couldn't grasp what would happen because the internet didn't exist at this point. Some might argue now that ARPANET already existed at the time but that's not the internet. Many didn't know about email before the internet so this is quite normal but comparing this to not knowing about something that didn't exist is a bit of a stretch.

  • @Brian.001

    @Brian.001

    Жыл бұрын

    What's a telephone, again?

  • @moonshinepz

    @moonshinepz

    10 ай бұрын

    sent my first email in 1996, amazed now, I thought I was doing something new

  • @matthewtrow5698

    @matthewtrow5698

    8 ай бұрын

    It didn't actually end up rivalling it really. Not at all. Which is why we are all walking about with telephones pressed to our ears a great deal of the time... 😜

  • @djdrwatson
    @djdrwatson Жыл бұрын

    Great report. Little did they know that the email system would later get flooded by spam, viruses, begging emails and scams.

  • @fidelcatsro6948

    @fidelcatsro6948

    Жыл бұрын

    hello saire im from nigeria, you have won a 1million USD lottery from your youtube comment, please email me back to collect your praize!

  • @marcse7en

    @marcse7en

    Жыл бұрын

    Sadly, technological advances are often misused for nefarious purposes! ... For example (and admittedly a little more serious than email viruses) splitting the atom, led to Atomic Bombs, and the obliteration of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

  • @skorpius2029

    @skorpius2029

    Жыл бұрын

    IDK about now but there used to be a time when people received loads of trash mail and ads through normal mail, so e-mails replaced that making it much cheaper and faster to send them.

  • @sanchog5704
    @sanchog5704 Жыл бұрын

    I'm old school too...I still use Hotmail.

  • @tqft

    @tqft

    Жыл бұрын

    Damn right

  • @CricketEngland

    @CricketEngland

    Жыл бұрын

    I bet you still access your internet via AOL

  • @fidelcatsro6948

    @fidelcatsro6948

    Жыл бұрын

    welcome to the club i still use hotmail too! 🐱👍🏿

  • @201081hero

    @201081hero

    Жыл бұрын

    Me too - signed up in 1999 and use the same email address to this day.

  • @xr6lad

    @xr6lad

    Жыл бұрын

    I use pigeons …

  • @DavidStephenDoucette
    @DavidStephenDoucette Жыл бұрын

    I wouldn't be alive if email didn't exist! My parents met online in the mid-90s

  • @DanielsPolitics1
    @DanielsPolitics1 Жыл бұрын

    I like the idea at about 01:40 that you just accept that messages out of hours will be read at the start of working hours.

  • @remerico

    @remerico

    Жыл бұрын

    This is how an ideal work environment should be, never read work emails or messages outside working hours.

  • @davedogge2280
    @davedogge2280 Жыл бұрын

    0:24 The legendary Fred Harris from the Playschool outtake "I cannot work with these amateurs!!" (look it up). Also he would have dropped his bacon sandwich back then if you'd told him that EA Games had a 3 Gig patch for their latest triple A shooter download !!

  • @animatewithdermot

    @animatewithdermot

    Жыл бұрын

    I looked it up, god that was funny. "Fred Harris Playschool" will produce the video in YT search. Worth it.

  • @1002l
    @1002lАй бұрын

    i now know how a modem works! i love these programmes, takes you back to how it started and explains it perfectly

  • @Christopher070
    @Christopher070 Жыл бұрын

    I was 16 in '86 and never heard of e mail yet. I do recall having computer classes in HS around this time, but it was so boring because it was all about DOS programs and floppy disks and I didn't understand any of it. It wouldn't be until spring of '92 that I bought my first home computer that had Prodigy which was a pre-AOL type internet service where I discovered all the fun stuff like shopping online, message boards, chat rooms, e mail etc and it was a whole new world!

  • @ranjittyagi9354

    @ranjittyagi9354

    Жыл бұрын

    Oh chat rooms make me remember Yahoo Messenger, I miss it so very much! 😔

  • @Zyxwvutsrqponmlkjih
    @Zyxwvutsrqponmlkjih Жыл бұрын

    I love old tech videos from before I was born and when i was not yet old enough to remember (before 2000). It’s so foreign yet families.

  • @ajs41

    @ajs41

    Жыл бұрын

    I was 7 years old in 1986. It was a fantastic time, very optimistic and cheerful, but also mysterious.

  • @CountScarlioni

    @CountScarlioni

    Жыл бұрын

    Honestly, be glad you missed it. I had to live through these years and as you can see, the tech barely hung together! The 80s was a fun time for innovation, but far too much of it was half-baked, unreliable or just not ready. It made for a lot of disappointment. With me being a technophile, by about 1990 it was becoming obvious that the world we have today was going to come about eventually, with a computer on every desk, and handheld minicomputers that would make videocalls, play music and show films. etc. But I wanted it all then! I didn't want to have to wait to see it slowly come together piece by piece! I'd love to grow up now and just have it all ready in front of me. Mind you, every now and then, I still get a little thrill from using today's computers. The childhood me, wakes up inside me and shouts "Oh my god we're living in the future!!!" If you're into old computer tech documentaries. I can massively recommend one called "Hyperland" made by the BBC in 1990, presented by the late great scifi author Douglas Adams. It attempted to predict what a future interconnected world of computers would look like, and in many cases, the predictions are pretty close to reality! There's a copy of it on youtube: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y511rLKok5WZXbA.html

  • @emanuel_soundtrack

    @emanuel_soundtrack

    Жыл бұрын

    @@CountScarlioni "Oh my god we're living in the future!!!" yesss very good phrase

  • @BM-jy6cb
    @BM-jy6cb Жыл бұрын

    9:35 - now I just point my communicator at it, and it shows my chosen language in AR. I used to love this stuff as a youngster in the 80's, but my god, I'm glad we've moved on.

  • @ucheucheuche
    @ucheucheuche Жыл бұрын

    5:50 He chats like people today and on feature phones - 'OK 4 me' 🤣🤣🤣

  • @DanielsPolitics1
    @DanielsPolitics1 Жыл бұрын

    “One Per Desk” is essentially a luxury that was disappearing by the time I started my career. I had a computer on my desk in only a couple of internships. Since then, it’s been work laptops you open up at any desk you can find.

  • @bierundkippen720
    @bierundkippen72019 күн бұрын

    A perfect exposition of the difference between British and US computers…

  • @mrlotusmic
    @mrlotusmic Жыл бұрын

    Sent my first email at 16 in 1987 at a LLoyds broker. I printed it out and still have it somewhere.

  • @stephenbarrette610

    @stephenbarrette610

    5 ай бұрын

    I worked in the market as a broker and we were using Email. But at the time we were told not to use email confirmation for a quote or cover confirmation as it wasn’t a tested legally binding form of communication. So to cancel a policy or make a change, you had to send a Telex. Happy days!

  • @scaredyfish
    @scaredyfish Жыл бұрын

    Email without internet! Just dial up the person’s computer directly! I never even knew that was a thing. I remember BBSes, and how you could leave messages through them.

  • @krashd

    @krashd

    Жыл бұрын

    That still required the internet though, what people consider the internet today is actually the web. The internet is the backbone of interlinked hardware going as far back as the late 60's while the web is the mass of tangled software that has ran on it since 1991.

  • @scaredyfish

    @scaredyfish

    Жыл бұрын

    @@krashd Sure, but if you’re direct dialling another computer, is that the internet? There’s no packet switched routing, you’re not dialling an ISP, you’re not using DNS.

  • @markboulton954

    @markboulton954

    Жыл бұрын

    @@scaredyfish I don't think you direct dialed. You dialed a BBS service that routed it to other subscribers. I believe that's what retrospectively became termed as POP2 (POP1 being peer-to-peer, i.e. direct, POP2 being routed by a BBS server over ARPANET and POP3 being SMTP/MAPI over IP).

  • @Wizerud

    @Wizerud

    Жыл бұрын

    @@scaredyfish Not the internet, but similar to the way fax machines still work today. Just a direct call between phone lines

  • @Bendaak

    @Bendaak

    Жыл бұрын

    @@markboulton954 The BBS service was the central computer which users connected to if they wanted to see their messages whether on the public boards or via private email. It was peer-to-peer between the user and the System Operator or Sysop. Things changed when BBSes merged to become part of larger networks such as DOVE-NET and FIDO-NET.

  • @StickCoach
    @StickCoach Жыл бұрын

    They were talking about the new Era with excitement and were are watching back their Era with curiosity lol

  • @san-chil
    @san-chil Жыл бұрын

    And spam got invented just about 5 minutes later ...

  • @catalinas3844
    @catalinas3844 Жыл бұрын

    I had no idea emails existed the same year I was born!! I for one did not have a computer and internet access until 2000 hahaha and it wasn't even that massive where I live (Chile). Amazing video

  • @ajs41

    @ajs41

    Жыл бұрын

    It was around in the 1970s in American universities.

  • @keithnicholas

    @keithnicholas

    Жыл бұрын

    they aren't actually talking about internet email, there were lots of types of email systems. A popular one on BBS 's was fidonet. If you were lucky and could get access you could get email and usenet access on the internet though. For quite a while lots of companies ran their own private networks and private email systems. I had a play on the internet in the late 80s, and then got a dial up connection in 1990. Was a great time to be on the internet!

  • @themadplotter
    @themadplotter Жыл бұрын

    Fred was ready for cricket at any point.

  • @JRE85
    @JRE85 Жыл бұрын

    The messing about with the email made my head hurt.

  • @richardlyd7450
    @richardlyd7450 Жыл бұрын

    Wow..how far we come!..I remember this back when I was a kid...I would loved to show my younger self the technology we have now..

  • @Wizerud
    @Wizerud Жыл бұрын

    That's right y'all. BT charged 15p/minute, or 9 pounds per hour in 1986 to be connected to such a system. Which would be 28.10 pounds per hour today.

  • @canadagood

    @canadagood

    Жыл бұрын

    Here in Canada in early nineties, I remember setting up a large retail store to send cash register data to the head office about 100 KM away. There were days spent negotiating commercial data line rates and dedicated phone lines. Such things were complicated and expensive without the public Internet.

  • @PaulPhillipsUK
    @PaulPhillipsUK Жыл бұрын

    Hold on, what happened to Kitty's new relationship? I was invested in this story and we never got to know how it ended?

  • @moominmay

    @moominmay

    Жыл бұрын

    Lol ikr what an outrage to leave is hanging like this 😅

  • @Dranok1

    @Dranok1

    Жыл бұрын

    @@andymerrett Hey, that's almost literature! Don't you try to pull up the tone, we're geeks around here we only read systems guides, and you won't find that kind of language in RSTS or PDP manual set...

  • @FishingtonBurpPuzzle

    @FishingtonBurpPuzzle

    Жыл бұрын

    Hopefully not a scammer

  • @MD-fu6ly

    @MD-fu6ly

    Жыл бұрын

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Cowlishaw they were married and are still married!

  • @MD-fu6ly

    @MD-fu6ly

    Жыл бұрын

    @ghost mall see my previous comment, they're still together and yes both academics 🙂

  • @BenjyDale
    @BenjyDale Жыл бұрын

    I thought that email started around 1988 or 89, so I was a few years out and pretty surprised! For reference, the World Wide Web (the bit of the internet that you see when using a web browser) went live in 1991. That was still early days though. I started to use the internet in 1998 (aged 20) and it was pretty mainstream by then

  • @ajs41

    @ajs41

    Жыл бұрын

    It was around in the 1970s in American universities.

  • @varunemani

    @varunemani

    Жыл бұрын

    Nice blast from the past! Though Social Media, snowballed being the qunessential ultimate evil born of the internet / E-mail revolution over the years world wide. And one which they would have never in their wildest dreams predicted back in 1986 into gaining supremacy in all of this! 🍷

  • @rawlinsonboy
    @rawlinsonboy Жыл бұрын

    Electronic mail you say? This'll never take off!

  • @James-fu5mi
    @James-fu5mi4 ай бұрын

    all bbc archive is history

  • @JasmineSurrealVideos
    @JasmineSurrealVideos Жыл бұрын

    I never used email till about 96, didn't know about it even, though I was interested always in tech, so I'm surprised it was in existence in its rudimentary form 11 years earlier. Our PCs at school certainly didn't have any of this in the early 90s, would have been very handy for sending messages instead of risking passing notes or talking lol.

  • @CountScarlioni

    @CountScarlioni

    Жыл бұрын

    It is crazy how far back email actually goes. If I remember right it took on something resembling its modern form around 1973ish. I remember one of the oft told factoids about Elizabeth II was that she was the world's first head of state to send an email back in 1976. Like yourself I didn't get an email address until the mid 90s which I signed up for with the school's only internet connected PC. I'd known email was a thing as a friend had net access and had told me how to get an account. Thing was, they were the only person I knew who had email so there wasn't much point having it for a long time! Weird to think how dealing with emails went over time from being a cool novelty to a dreary part of the daily grind!

  • @dobromirvidev9262
    @dobromirvidev9262 Жыл бұрын

    What a time they lived in!

  • @trevorbrown6654
    @trevorbrown6654 Жыл бұрын

    electronic mail systems have been about since the late 1960s when they were used in the US by government departments, Nasa and a handful of top universities. But this is still an amazing insight into the state of emailing in the mid 1980s. I know author Arthur C Clarke (who lived in Sri Lanka) used an early email system in 1983/84 when he was asked by director Peter Hyams (in Hollywood) to help him adapt his novel '2010' into a screenplay for the movie version so i'm guessing the system looked something like what we see here.

  • @doriangray_1999

    @doriangray_1999

    11 ай бұрын

    The lead character (Roy Scheider) in the movie *2010* is at one point sitting on the beach working on his laptop - it looked like a laptop I used in the late 80ies (no wi-fi or internet as we know it now) and at one point a silent white aerodynamic electric car glided by! It was pretty much spot on...! *2010* premiered in 1982 and was a huge production which took a couple of years to make. But except for that scene shot on the beach - *2010* was a child of the 80ies. The spacecraft that took the crew to Jupiter was only close to realistic when it came to the rocket engines! But Arthur C. Clarke who was one of the consultants on the movie developed communication satellites and radar when he wasn't writing novels so he knew a bit about rockets. He actually wrote *2010* so he was the man for the job!

  • @trevorbrown6654

    @trevorbrown6654

    11 ай бұрын

    @@doriangray_1999 I've seen that film and I noticed that too. It's a prototype Apple Mac laptop that they lent the film. Very advanced for 1983 (when the movie was filmed). There's an interesting bit of info on it in the 'trivia' section of the 2010 entry on IMDB if you want to know more.

  • @vikingjohn9813
    @vikingjohn98133 ай бұрын

    I really can't see this catching on or happen in our lifetime

  • @huwpickrell1209
    @huwpickrell1209 Жыл бұрын

    "My typing cannot possibly be that bad" LOL 😂

  • @imidltd
    @imidltd3 ай бұрын

    Wow, am I ever glad to see that I'm not alone with these anomalous.

  • @solsol1624
    @solsol1624 Жыл бұрын

    Wow, a brave new world! Yet we still call on the phone to ask did you get my email ☺

  • @npet6842

    @npet6842

    Жыл бұрын

    That is just so true . The email maybe your written transmission , but whether anyone bothers to read it is another thing ! Receivers miss your email amongst the spam and round robins that flood through . Government is particularly dreadful to work within and it's departmental spam .

  • @xr6lad

    @xr6lad

    Жыл бұрын

    Yet it fairly rare an email will make a sale; it’s the rapport and relationship of actually talking to your customer that does.

  • @ZiggyMercury
    @ZiggyMercury Жыл бұрын

    "I'm taking that that gibberish is actually saying 'it has been sent' - it's a brilliant of British Telecom Gold and the quality of the lines we get" - that line is gold...

  • @johnbarrett5268
    @johnbarrett52687 ай бұрын

    Great show

  • @missionpassed4584
    @missionpassed4584 Жыл бұрын

    Some people think me old fashioned, but this does look like the future, its one of those things I really hope takes off, can't wait to use this type of system and hope it does not cost too much! .S

  • @ajs41

    @ajs41

    Жыл бұрын

    Most TV in the 1980s had the same atmosphere as this show. I loved watching at that time when I was at primary school.

  • @Psycho250785
    @Psycho250785 Жыл бұрын

    I like the mention of translation service in the end. :D

  • @jakecavendish3470
    @jakecavendish34702 ай бұрын

    My friend married a modem in 1986. Bucks Fizz were at the wedding, honeymoon was on the Falkland Islands.

  • @Onaterdem
    @OnaterdemАй бұрын

    It's so funny seeing internet communication without TCP/checksums

  • @herby4215
    @herby4215 Жыл бұрын

    Great BBC program as tomorrow's world

  • @taiwanchina88
    @taiwanchina88 Жыл бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @skfalpink123
    @skfalpink123 Жыл бұрын

    Kitteridge is typing on an IBM Model F AT keyboard. I hope she hung on to it, as they're worth a fortune now.

  • 3 ай бұрын

    These retro tech archive videos are amazing!!. At minute 8:00, I think the reporter used a amiga commodore 500 computer I would say.

  • @videogamebookreviews

    @videogamebookreviews

    3 ай бұрын

    Atari ST - note the shape of the case. Also, from 9:09 you can see the Atari logo as part of the software near the top left of his screen. That Old Guy.

  • @phrtao
    @phrtao Жыл бұрын

    I forgot about the old 'One Per Desk' with its microdrives (never knew they were actually used by someone !). I love how the BBC continued to use the term 'micro' to describe home/personal computers of the time. I never heard the term used anywhere else except in my CSE Computing exam (1987) where we were expected to know the difference between 'Mainframe', 'Mini' and 'Micro' computers. Some things never change - school qualifications in computing were as obscure and irrelevant then as they are now.

  • @this_is_a_tiny_town

    @this_is_a_tiny_town

    Жыл бұрын

    It wasn't until you enrolled in a Rodney Trotter type night class for a 'Diploma in Computerisation' that you obtained anything worthwhile and could add 'DiC' after your name lol

  • @DavidPaulMorgan

    @DavidPaulMorgan

    Жыл бұрын

    One of my computer operators had a BT Tonto (rebranded One Per Desk) and ISTR they were based on the Sinclair QL - hence the micro(tape)drives. ICL used them for the integrated telephony , WP & email on reception desks etc. I remember seeing a lot of them when on training courses at ICL-Windsor & ICL-Manchester.

  • @MrNickyfarmer

    @MrNickyfarmer

    Жыл бұрын

    @@this_is_a_tiny_town to go under your T.i.T letterheaded paper lmao...long live David jason an nick Lyndhurst

  • @alienxna6511

    @alienxna6511

    8 ай бұрын

    @@DavidPaulMorgan Worked at ICL's PC Business Centre in Bracknell (BRA04) for my Industrial Training Year ('86-'87) as part of an ICL sponsored degree at The City University in London. If my memory serves me correct, a senior ICL technical manager, John Panter, worked on the micro-drives and fixed a whole of load of issues with them that meant they could go into production both on the ICL OPD and the Sinclair QL. I worked on ICL's first IBM/MS-DOS/Windows compatible AT clone, the ICL Professional Work Station (ICL PWS) integrating non-ICL data communication products i.e. Hayes modems, IBM broadband & baseband LANs, IBM's Token-Ring LAN (LU6.2), 3Com networking and first versions of Novell's Netware. Great times and put me on the road to a 25+ year career in in IT.

  • @volo870

    @volo870

    4 ай бұрын

    Well "micro" was quite an established term in the UK. The notion was used to include all computers, not only those of IBM standard.

  • @NathanChisholm041
    @NathanChisholm041 Жыл бұрын

    Cant wait!

  • @cougsjohnson1
    @cougsjohnson12 ай бұрын

    There were several other reasons why E-Mail didn't take off until the Mid-1990's. It was extremely complicated to use in the 1980's for anyone without a Computer Science 🔭 Degree. Also, you had to know at least one other person who had an E-Mail address, which almost no one had. Most People, who went online in the 1908's like myself, used Bulletin Board Services (BBS) To chat & talk to strangers. It didn't take off in the US until the Mid-90's when America Online came out & gave every person who Purchased Dial Up Internet an AOL Address. I was starting out in my Career as a Sales Rep in 1998 & even Business Customers of mine were telling me to use FAX instead until 1999, when it rapidly started changing. In 1998 I probably only sent & received about 20 total emails to Customers that year.

  • @tqft
    @tqft Жыл бұрын

    Are we to assume that Micheal was not the most handsome of chaps…

  • @ajs41
    @ajs41 Жыл бұрын

    It took another 10 years for a significant number of people to start using email.

  • @user-et6pj4db9s
    @user-et6pj4db9s3 ай бұрын

    Shes busy belittling the phone when the one thing you needed to connect to the net back then and for years afterwards was a phone!

  • @dainipeagram4837
    @dainipeagram4837 Жыл бұрын

    I remember running a BBS back in the day and using FidoNet as the "email" system, before the WWW took off

  • @CESmith

    @CESmith

    Жыл бұрын

    Thank goodness unlimited local calls were included in the base price where I lived in the U.S. I remember buying BBS magazines looking for a local number to connect to FiDo Net and other BBS servers.

  • @onlyme219
    @onlyme219 Жыл бұрын

    The amount of money email saved me on stamps and phone calls was a lot of money, a great Idea

  • @ajs41

    @ajs41

    Жыл бұрын

    Except your broadband bill is probably pretty high.

  • @onlyme219

    @onlyme219

    Жыл бұрын

    @@ajs41 £32 a month

  • @rattyfus8218
    @rattyfus821812 күн бұрын

    I’d forgotten that Fred Harris of The Burkiss Way fame was on this programme. It’s strange to watch him being serious.

  • @robmclaughjr
    @robmclaughjr Жыл бұрын

    Think of the advertising possibilities!

  • @TheUtuber999
    @TheUtuber999 Жыл бұрын

    This type of email setup sounds similar to what I used that year with a Commodore 128 - QuantumLink... later to become America On Line (AOL). It wasn't Internet-based email, but the next best thing at the time.

  • @rhinoceros3852
    @rhinoceros3852 Жыл бұрын

    hey BBC can we get the other video please @9:15 where they went ‘round the city with the analog radiowave van & picked up data?? that sounds retro-awesome

  • @gallitron7803

    @gallitron7803

    Жыл бұрын

    @Jack Warner Quite possibly but as we know it was technologically impossible to carry out such a feat. There was no way those detector vans worked... Good tv campaign though.

  • @rhinoceros3852

    @rhinoceros3852

    Жыл бұрын

    @Jack Warner @9:15 they talk about it briefly but i paused the clip & read the article on-screen and it says they eavesdropped on financial firms in the city with £200 equipment in a van and got all kinds of stuff sent in the open

  • @rhinoceros3852

    @rhinoceros3852

    Жыл бұрын

    @@gallitron7803 article at @9:15 says it worked. this was the 80s they sent stuff analog and unencrypted 🙂

  • @endzmeetmusic9053
    @endzmeetmusic9053 Жыл бұрын

    I've got a feeling that this "email " thing will never take off

  • @scaredyfish
    @scaredyfish Жыл бұрын

    No error detection/correction on the modem line!

  • @user-yq3nu5hd6n
    @user-yq3nu5hd6n3 ай бұрын

    World to fast for me 2024 Back to the future 1960 ❤ Wow beautiful England ❤back then

  • @gaggleweed
    @gaggleweedАй бұрын

    It's funny to see a computer show where the host is older than 17.

  • @goodlawyer1813
    @goodlawyer1813Ай бұрын

    Things were mighty expensive for those early adapters.

  • @deepred6502
    @deepred6502 Жыл бұрын

    Line noise, 8-bit style. Before error-checking packet switching became commonplace.

  • @stephenhargreaves9011
    @stephenhargreaves9011 Жыл бұрын

    Oh dear, as someone that jumped on the internet at its birth, and has used email in one form or another for 40 years, and as a specialist tax accountant, it's sad testament that email now gets ignored and delayed by Government as much as traditional "snail mail" does. I'm eagerly awaiting quantum mail so maybe Gvt will respond quickly and efficiently, but I'm not holding my breath,.

  • @iamfinky
    @iamfinky Жыл бұрын

    Gosh haven't we come such a long way...

  • @GreenandGold
    @GreenandGold3 ай бұрын

    The worlds first catfish happening right in front of our eyes.

  • @eversostrange6337
    @eversostrange6337 Жыл бұрын

    Good grief was the atari ui so much better than the others they showed.

  • @krashd

    @krashd

    Жыл бұрын

    In the late 80's the Commodore Amiga and Atari ST were leaps and bounds ahead of other computers, even PCs and Apple Macs. Those two ruled the roost until the 90's when Windows 3 showed that PCs were the future and micro computers were the past.

  • @PrashanthSadashivan
    @PrashanthSadashivan Жыл бұрын

    "Electronic Mail" indeed :)

  • @madjidhamdini8114
    @madjidhamdini8114 Жыл бұрын

    I'm from 1977 , i love electronic from my childhood , i remember connected a speaker with my casio time watch just for ear the "bip bip" from the speaker haha i was 7 ...started to learn informatic in 1990 with comodore 64 and other Atari st (with soundcard dolby and REAL graphic card ^^ ) , today i write this com from a good coputer tower very powerful but the sound is from 2 speakers 1974 and my best friend gived me some LP (for turntable) , i love to listen the band "modern talking" from this LP , in the same time i have all on MP3...that's funny to know , in 1986 this "reto tech" was the high tec on his time ! exactly like today ! 2022 08 16 , peoples of 2042 08 16 i'm sure for they , our technolgie is also "Vintage ,old , retro " ! PS : i'm electrician at work but also electronician and dj , love electronic music , i watch "dr who" ,when you know the music generic from 1963 (by Delia Derbishire) was made with the best electronic coponment of the 60s era , band tape , sound by sound , a compressor by sound , cutin and pastin band and aband and band ...stynchronise ,all b yhand no computer help...RESPECT ^^

  • @SilverGospel003
    @SilverGospel003 Жыл бұрын

    1986: The Joy of Email 2022: The Dread of Email(SPAM)

  • @MrRW1980
    @MrRW1980 Жыл бұрын

    fascinating...... of course for your 1990 travel to praha, warszawa you could forget that even for austrua and germany that was alien technology.....love that video ... in 2000 the internet started in austria forbroader range ( well in the warsznaw pact they would have arrested you as a spy in 1986 .....where shortwave was the gate to the world....

  • @GURken
    @GURken Жыл бұрын

    I've got my first email address 22 years after this program

  • @estusflask982
    @estusflask982 Жыл бұрын

    Jeremy Clarkson + Jay Leno

  • @thewotsit
    @thewotsit Жыл бұрын

    I saved 2 pound sixty three on stamps this year by buying the latest BBC computer and modem for the low price of 600 pounds!

  • @wasabiboysinterestinglife
    @wasabiboysinterestinglife Жыл бұрын

    Oh so that's why Sheldon was using email in his computer in young Sheldon that was the same year as this..

  • @cambs0181
    @cambs0181 Жыл бұрын

    That Atari is pretty advanced for 1986.

  • @jayme69
    @jayme693 ай бұрын

    It's the future! :-)

  • @cougsjohnson1
    @cougsjohnson12 ай бұрын

    As an American I give massive Props to The UK for taking the lead in E-Mail. So I was an excited kid in the 1980's that had to always have the latest Tech. However, I didn't go Online until 1988, when I had a Commodore 64 & Purchased my 1st Modem from a Guy at School in The Computer 🖥️ Club. The Reason that Britain was ahead, was because of the BBC MICRO ! It was the World's 1st Mass Produced Computer that came with a Modem already.

  • @Ken.-
    @Ken.-4 ай бұрын

    How did you get past The Guardian's paywall? Did your browser have an add-on?

  • @DoggoneNexus
    @DoggoneNexus Жыл бұрын

    I HAVu Q BAD LYNE UTTHIS IS oK vOR MU Sent from my iPhun

  • @robyn_over__here
    @robyn_over__here Жыл бұрын

    @5:04 it is like he is narrating a sports match

  • @robyn_over__here

    @robyn_over__here

    Жыл бұрын

    Or like a video game live stream

  • @hybridflu6-810
    @hybridflu6-810 Жыл бұрын

    Wait til they find out about Teams.

  • @davedogge2280
    @davedogge2280 Жыл бұрын

    0:00 She's talking about Michael Myers from the Halloween movies.

  • @davidwithnalll2987
    @davidwithnalll2987 Жыл бұрын

    Anyone else notice the telephone handset was inserted into the coupler backwards?

  • @hrgwea

    @hrgwea

    Жыл бұрын

    I did... ...after reading your comment.

  • @Wagoo
    @Wagoo Жыл бұрын

    It's sad to think that 15 years of brain dead backwards thinking by British Telecom were ahead for internet enthusiasts in the UK (living outside of Hull, anyway).. before a reasonable way to stay connected to the internet without horrendous phonebills would finally be on our shores. What a bottleneck for technology!

  • @dobythedog

    @dobythedog

    Жыл бұрын

    I lived in the midlands and had to dial up a service in London to get a connection all at long distance rates. I got some horrendous phone bills.

  • @Wagoo

    @Wagoo

    Жыл бұрын

    yep ghost mall matey - small world indeed :)

  • @MrW582
    @MrW582 Жыл бұрын

    It's a shame this didn't really take off, it could have changed the world as we know it! We could have made a program to share our photos and contact friends, and given it a name like face book or something similar, it could have been amazing

  • @BlessingsfromBridget

    @BlessingsfromBridget

    Жыл бұрын

    😂

  • @danymalsound

    @danymalsound

    7 ай бұрын

    🤣

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack Жыл бұрын

    JOy?! hahaha this is my HELL

  • @BeatUpRecordsCDs
    @BeatUpRecordsCDs Жыл бұрын

    She got to know him so well that, she did not care what he looked like. Pity these superficial dating apps aren't like this.

  • @stephen3511
    @stephen3511 Жыл бұрын

    Email will never take off.

  • @MagikGimp
    @MagikGimp Жыл бұрын

    Good old reliable Atari STs!

  • @dangerman8625
    @dangerman8625 Жыл бұрын

    People have missed the plot, note the computer cursor letters, then 1986, and now, 2022.!

  • @neogeo1670
    @neogeo1670 Жыл бұрын

    so the email came before the internet hmm you learn something new everyday!

  • @ajs41

    @ajs41

    Жыл бұрын

    Email has always used the internet. It's the World Wide Web that came later.

  • @squirrelarch
    @squirrelarch Жыл бұрын

    I used to think “Wow.Read newspapers on a computer.Imagine”. Now I often think “who still reads newspapers?”. It all seems like yesterday.

  • @russcattell955i

    @russcattell955i

    Жыл бұрын

    Bizarrely, some people still read yesterday's news on sheets of paper.

  • @squirrelarch

    @squirrelarch

    Жыл бұрын

    @@russcattell955i It takes all sorts eh.

  • @xr6lad

    @xr6lad

    Жыл бұрын

    Now they get their fake news from social media.

  • @ajs41

    @ajs41

    Жыл бұрын

    I still prefer to read paper newspapers, because the adverts are a lot less irritating than on devices!

  • @kinuux
    @kinuux4 ай бұрын

    how could a 86' person have understood this show

  • @flywalll
    @flywalll Жыл бұрын

    "Electronic Jack-of-all-trades" :D iPhone

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