Wow what a gem of a match

Accu Stats always had the BEST videos!!

Thank You Pat!!! After listening to Billy and Grady commentate forever, it is wonderful to see them actually playing each other.

I think Grady was trying to run the tournament and play at the same time? ..... been a long time..... Grady desperately wanted people to get interested in one-pocket more than 9ball......lol ...... hail to the chief!!! ..... thank you Grady

Ive always admired these two players. I love Billy’s commentary, and I love Gradys personality.

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

You're not alone!

"Eternal Bragging Rights" The biggest purse in the history of pool.

Great match, great commentators. That was back in the good old days when you could still smoke inside.

You'd think Billy and Grady were having a Sunday afternoon game at the local pool hall... not in the semifinals of a tournament. What fun to watch! And Billy won a a race to 5 with a score of 4 to 3 (graphics)... LOL.

Love watching these old games and listening to these guys. Seeing their unique genius and styles. It's not just nostalgia or missing the old days. It's just cool seeing the guy's thinking processes and the outcome of what they tried. Every stage of the evolution of the approaches to this game proves the game itself alters the thinking of its players. It's the closest correspondence to chess there is in the spheroid a impact gamut with the possible exception of Carom.

Thanks for the gem pat really enjoyed the commentary and the interview afterwards shines on the players personality. Keep em coming

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, will do!

Love to watch one pocket, nice old school commenting too. Grady came to Anchorage in the mid 90s and got to see him whip up on the players there at one pocket... One time I watched a one pocket match last 3 days, they were playing 3 ahead. No one could win, they had to quit on each other. I believe one pocket is one of those things that can't be learned here on the internet. First time I seen a one pocket game Don Wirterman had to shoot with one arm behind his back giving the other guy a spot. I've seen world beater 9 ball players go nuts playing one pocket because they can't move, in the long run it actually helps all pool games. Enjoyed watching, thanks

2 treasures of the industry. Huge games and personalities.

Thanks for making this match available.... 👍🏼

I anxiously await this match with great alacrity 😃

Have this match on VHS..!!!!!!😂😂😂😂😂....first off,😂😂😂😂, these 2 are the best working together in the booth!!!!!!!!!😂😂😂...the jokes, the sarcasm, the knowledge..! I mean, i could go on and on! I've learned more than half my billiard knowledge from these 2!!!! Pat, you're the best!!!!! I can't say enough! What a tremendous match and video for Pat to release! I love these 2!!!!!!! And Pat of course for making it possible! Everyone involved with accu stats!!!!!!!!!👍👍👍

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

We appreciate those kind words. Thank you.

@mclaymc10

3 жыл бұрын

Just absolutely love you guys Pat!!! Words can't say enough!👍

great friends & warriors, great commentating & awesome interaction- wish it was a race to 11

I was fortunate enough to meet Grady in the early 90's at the opening of a pool room in Augusta. He did an exhibition match with the local top player and then played some with anyone who wanted to come to the table and play.He told us a few tales of his traveling and making of the Color of Money. I think he really enjoyed being in that movie.

Thank you ,Pat Fleming, or the lovely gift.

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

You're welcome! And more to come.

Great to see these old matches👍

Fascinating. Excellent as always, thank you.

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

Our pleasure!

That was alot of fun! Both the players, and commentary. Thanks, Pat!

What a pleasure (and hoot!) to watch and listen to -- thanks as always Pat!

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure.

Great match. I would have loved to see Billy and Grady self commentating as well.

it's so refreshing to watch pool matches from when there was no need for a shot clock. Even the slowest game, one pocket, was enjoyable to watch.

Incardona's eyebrows always go up and down with his stroke.

@dhoey98

3 жыл бұрын

Looks like Scott Frost

@mclaymc10

3 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😂😂

Can't wait for this one! Thank you for sharing!

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

You are so welcome!

"these tables don't roll off" at 3:45 the 11 ball hit's the rail twice in a row. LOL

Still waiting for the Incardona vs. Bollman match.

"ETERNAL BRAGGING RIGHTS" lololol I love pool

I played Billy Incardona in a single elimination tourn. on front street in Phila. I beat him9-7 then I lost to my buddy Jimmy Fusco 9-7

●●● The video says they're playing a race to 5 games. How was Billy able to win the match with only 4 games?

Thanks for another great upload. Very enjoyable. You might add a note that it's a race to4 and not 5. I miss Grady, he was such a nice guy, and he liked the ladies! I remember that cue of Billy's, it had more ivory in the forearm than wood.

I was watching thinking it was a race to five but I guess not. The two ball shot was a surprise to me especially coming from Grady. Kinda wondering what they say if they both commented this match lol. That was a great match!

I honestly always thought Grady had a stroke around this time and it affected his judgement. I had watched him play awesome moving one pocket for several years and he would never give an opponent any air at all , then all of a sudden , he is shooting flyers, every time the pressure is on.

1:36:27 “no bout adoubt it” 😂

Thank you Accu-stats.

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

Very welcome

Class act

Every excited about this one. I only wish they could also do their own commentary.

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

Don't miss the interview with both of them after the match is over. 😀

This is a prime example of why most pool players die broke. They can't admit that they've lost a stroke or two in their game, even the commentators were laughing near the end. If you think this is sad fast forward 16 years and watch Grady Mathews vs John Henderson. He's not choking, he is actually having anxiety attacks.

I didn’t hear you guys talk about Ed Kelly

So what was the first match they commentated after this? I bet the banter was even spicier.

judging by the yawns, tournament must have run a long while. lol . . at least for Buddy. One of my heros.

I’ll bet on Grady. I haven’t the slightest idea who wins, but I like Grady in this match. Of course I always bet against Billy-he’s my friend. Lol. He’s a good sport and I hope he enjoys all the $ he’s beat me out of playing backgammon.....

Am I the only one that noticed both players made a few confusing decisions during this match? Shooting at the wrong hole and missing shots so badly as to be suspicious? Something seems very off about this match.

My very good friend (who passed away) was Jimmy Fusco. He won a national tournament in Las Vegas and Billy Incardona cardona came in 2nd place.. Jimmy invited him to come to an open tournament at front street in Phila, a single elimination tourn. I was checking the players board, and saw I was scheduled to play Billy Incardona my first match. Drew told me who he was and I played him and beat him 9-7, I couldn't believe it. So guess who my next match was? My buddy Jimmy Fusco. Jimmy beat me 9-7 and I was out, but he came over and said-wow Ronnie you almost beat me too! What a fabulous experience, which helped pave the way for me to play on the Fla. pro tour run by Tony Crosby.

@lennylashley4741

3 жыл бұрын

jimmy was a world class player and guy i witnessed him play a freind in a 9 ball tourn ey years ago my freind was a good a (ish ) player jimmy tooled on him hard kicking two rails and running out and a few other fantastic moments i'll never forget

@franklatorraca1678

3 жыл бұрын

Used to watch Jimmy play at Westend billiards in Elizabeth New Jersey. Class act

Hi Pat, is there a player review tape with Grady playing one-pocket on here or the Accu-Stats website?

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

Sorry, no Player Reviews with Grady playing one-pocket.

One pocket. A little slower than watching paint dry, but so much more fun.

6:04 🤣 😂

Looks like a 17 or 18 year old Corey on the rail. Wonder if him and Steve took the road trip together.

This ought to be good.

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

And wait for the after-game interview with both Billy and Grady!

@Joe-Z

3 жыл бұрын

@@AccuStats Of course; looking forward to it, thanks 😊

race 5?

I thought they were supposed to play to 5? Why did they only do to 4?

@tgh223

3 жыл бұрын

what i thought

@AccuStats

3 жыл бұрын

Only the FINALS was a race to five.

@BanditJustice

3 жыл бұрын

@@AccuStats Who ended up winning the finals of this tournament

Great 9 ball player Bob "Belly" Manieri and straight pool legend and one pocket player Johnny Irvolino sitting next to Incardona. Great days.

@whoamifoo9075

3 жыл бұрын

At 4:12 you can see a young Cory deuel is sitting right next to them.

@franklatorraca1678

3 жыл бұрын

@@whoamifoo9075 You're absolutely right. Didn't catch that. He was still a kid

@whoamifoo9075

3 жыл бұрын

@@franklatorraca1678 yea he looks so young. He probably played in that tourney.

@17:28

What size are the pockets? They look like buckets

@ericpetersen8155

3 жыл бұрын

Ed Young they are buckets

@ericpetersen8155

3 жыл бұрын

Probably 4 ¾

@ammoalamo6485

3 жыл бұрын

Many of us think that the super-tight pockets, and pocket angles and deep pocket shelves of the modern Diamond tables to have spoiled the game for the average person who plays for entertainment and socializing. It's not fun go out with friends who seldom play pool to have a few beers and goof around, and discover that no one can make two balls in a row because the Diamond tables are too hard on beginner players. The pockets are not only narrow in width of the throat, but also tight in the rail rebound angles. The deep shelves prevent any shots from going unless hit nearly perfect. In the great heyday of pool, in the days when Mosconi ran 500+balls and only stopped shooting because no one was paying him for his extra hours at the table, until about the eighties every pool hall had Brunswick or similar tables with 4.5 inch or larger corner pocket openings, and beginners could enjoy playing league 8-ball on 8-foot tables, or on 7-foot bar tables, and not be frustrated because the balls rimmed away from the hole time after time. I had my own table pockets tightened, but not too much, just enough to force me into adopting a bit more accuracy. But to play on a 9 or 10 foot Diamond with pro-cut pockets is very difficult for ordinary people who are not full-time players. If covid ever allows pool halls to thrive again, I would recommend to have only a couple of Diamonds, for the gamblers to play on, and the rest Brunswicks, Olhausens, or any well-made brand fitted with old-style forgiving pockets at least 4.5 inches wide at the throat. I could be wrong about the Diamond 7-foot coin-op tables since I haven't played on one, out here in the boondocks. If those pockets are not cut extremely difficult I would easily choose Diamond for the coin op tables, due to their easy setup and leveling with one-piece slate, and better cue ball return technology.

Fatboy Approved

Buddy taught me a whole new attitude. Boss: "How about finishing that job I told you?" Me: "..NO!" Clerk: "Sir, you need to fill this form for your social security benefits!" Me: "..NO!" Landlord: "Pay your rent!" Me: "..NO!"

love both these guys but that wasnt good one pocket

Juat figured out how to fix the talking problem-turn the sound off_DUH-cerelli

I would beat bot of them at arm wrestling

I guess the players can't hear these commentators because we really don't give a crap what they think. Let them play and shut up- Ron Cerelli The Legend and former pro on the Fla. seminole tour run by Tony Crosby.

@shortydancer

2 жыл бұрын

You dont sound to bright Ron Cereli The Legend. These commentators are the nuts.

The skills demonstrated in Bank shots by these two GIANTS in one pocket are substandard and it was disappointing.

@jamesdevrees8663

3 жыл бұрын

How about YOU post a video of YOUR banking skills?

@TheVagabond116

3 жыл бұрын

Both are legends and they could Bank better than they did in this match. Grady passed away and Billy still can bank real good.

Had to put the sound on mute , these 2 announcers just won't shut up!

@tgh223

3 жыл бұрын

why dont u have some respect one of these announcers is one of the best pool players thats ever been so why dont u hit mute or just quit whinning and u might learn something moron

@ammoalamo6485

3 жыл бұрын

@@tgh223 Can't you read? He said he muted the sound. I did that, too. And I've played with Incardona and have nothing but the greatest respect for the guy as a player and as a human being. But you can't learn something from the players actual play when the commenters are cluttering up the game with their constant drivel about Options A - Z on every shot. Even worse, the player has already played the seven while they are both still evaluating the correctness of shooting the three, and then they wake up and say Oh yeh lookie there he shot at the seven... They act like they are talking to people who have never played 1P or even pool ever before. It doesn't matter how good a person plays pool when it comes to being a commenter; you gotta know when to speak up and when to shut up. Neither of these guys know when to shut up. But then again, if Incardona was announcing, it would be just as bad since he doesn't know when to shut up either when he announces. This is honest criticism, not meant to disparage the great career of Billy or these announcers either. I just like to have them provide some color commentary and the odd insights, not describe every possible move on every shot. When they talk so much that people mute the sound, they are failing at their job. But if you need someone to explain every move to you, I guess you need this type of annoying running commentary. Most of us find so much detail on every shot to be annoying and interfering with our enjoyment of the game. Half the fun is figuring out for yourself what they will shoot, not having someone make a stream of never-ending talk all through the match. It just makes me want to holler Hey will you guys please shut up for even one second?

And this folks is the prime example as to why none of the old era of American players made it past the 90s in the pro circuit - all of them lacked fundamentals and their games fell apart when Europeans and the rest of the Filipinos came crashing through. Exception is the GOAT Strickland, with Johnny and Rodney who came a bit later but it wasn´t until the 2000s that America got any other decent players like Corey and then Shane.

@nickpatrick7021

Жыл бұрын

Nobody is trying to claim that Grady or Billy Incardona were elite level world class pros... Also not the fault of the old time Americans that they were in their 50s and 60s nad 70s by the time the Europe figured the game out

@daffydlwellen1270

Жыл бұрын

Gosh, I guess Shannon, Nick, and a host of others never really existed. Or you are nothing but a Eurotrash Troll.

@raskolnjikov1

Жыл бұрын

@@daffydlwellen1270 On American soil yes, otherwise not really. Even Shane just not so long ago started being dominant outside of the US. That is because the US is a pool gold mine. So, nothing bad towards it, just the facts. I love American pool.

@JeezVince

7 ай бұрын

lol Reyes never beat Buddy Hall for money and admired Mike Siegel of all players, just an example taken from the horse's mouth...

@andrewverrett568

5 ай бұрын

​@@raskolnjikov1that's not true at all.. Shane just didn't play alot of tournaments outside of America until recently.

History always repeats its self and seeing these old matches proove just that!!!