1993: HULK HOGAN - Is WRESTLING FAKE? | Pebble Mill | Classic Interviews | BBC Archive
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"It's sports entertainment."
The immortal Hulk Hogan graced the set of Pebble Mill to chat with Judi Spiers about his injuries, his acting career and his musical ambitions. He also addresses (with good humour) the question of whether or not professional wrestling is 'fake'.
Clip taken from Pebble Mill, originally broadcast on BBC One, Wednesday 31 March, 1993.
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I remember when a reporter stated that he thought wresting was fake and got an open hand slap, twice from the wrestler, David Schultz
@Bill-cv1xu
6 ай бұрын
John Stossel..😂
@jameslitz9819
6 ай бұрын
Hogan is many things but he's not a thug who'd assault someone
@mafftv3801
6 ай бұрын
@@jameslitz9819he didn’t say it was hogan
@jameslitz9819
6 ай бұрын
@@mafftv3801 I never said that he did, I'm using him as an example considering this video is about him.
@orangejjay
6 ай бұрын
@@mafftv3801Reading comprehension isn't that easy, is it? 😂😂 Examples something something. Followup something something.
That's was a very well spoken answer to the "is it fake" question.
I am not afraid or ashamed to say that as a uk fan at 43 years of age i was and still am a hulkamaniac!
@ianlock3313
5 ай бұрын
BROTHER!
@jamescliffward2541
5 ай бұрын
I'm in the 40s bracket since last week and a wrestling fan since childhood! Rock on Man 🤘
@Mark-England
5 ай бұрын
Me too
@dogvomit9765
5 ай бұрын
grow up .
@realnewyorkcityliving2065
5 ай бұрын
Wow , you kept it real , I was a fan of hogan for sure , but I’m no longer a hulkamaniac at age 43 , it was fun while it lasted
This is the most natty looking Hulk Hogan I've ever seen, and he looks great.
Checking the nWo look back in 1993 before the nWo started
@anglowarrior3871
5 ай бұрын
Yep,that came into my head as soon as he walked out.
@franklinmardy8171
5 ай бұрын
I was just about to say that
@user-xf4bd2lm8h
4 ай бұрын
I agree just saw your message
Never heard Hulk speak so real and civilised before!Speaks intelligently.
Interesting video. I always enjoy watching the appearances of wrestlers on UK television from back in the day. Thanks for uploading it, brotherjackdude!
This was in march of 93, it was his final days in the WWF before he went to WCW.
@rjperfetto584
5 ай бұрын
If this is March 1993, then he was promoting for WrestleMania 9
@fuzzluvver69
5 ай бұрын
No it wasn't, considering he still wrestled for WWF until August that year,. didn't go to WCW until the following year.
@DeputyDog-mh1yo
5 ай бұрын
Who really cares? @@fuzzluvver69
He sounds different when hes not all "NOW LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING MEEAAN GEEENE, BROTHER BROTHER BROTHER!!!"
He’s rocking the Hollywood Hogan look 3 years before it was even a thing.
@intello8953
5 ай бұрын
Wow just realised that 👀
@ShadowAngel606
5 ай бұрын
He was wearing all black already in the 80's. You can find quite a few pics in PWI and other mags back then. One pic that always made me laugh is him basically cosplaying as a Gopnik, black muscle shirt, black adidas track pants, lol.
@Creees
5 ай бұрын
@@ShadowAngel606i even saw him in the 60s wearing the all black
@ashleyburns6752
5 ай бұрын
Wrestling didnt catch up to pop culture until 96/7. If you watch music videos from 1993 compared to wrestling it is like another decade, in the attitude era it fit right in with music and other TV in its presentation and edginess.
@paulboland9889
5 ай бұрын
He's advertising ISO-Pro, it was a product that WWE used to advertise all the time in the 80s and 90s
I will always remember a 1993 (probably same UK tour as this) where he went on Going Live and said we don't try and hurt our opponents and the best match is where you can both sit at a bar afterwards together without being in pain. I remember being quite surprised how open he was.
Terry rocking the Hollywood Hogan colours before he even turned heel, brother. GoAT
Wrestlemania 9 took place 4 days later after this interview on Sunday 4th April in Las Vegas. Hogan had just returned to the WWF and was facing IRS & Ted Dibiase in a tag match with Brutus Beefcake. Hogan was 39 during this interview, and after the tag match he would then win the WWF Championship that night when he beat Yokozuna after Yokozuna had beat Bret Hart and immediately challenged Hogan to a title match. Is strange he never mentioned Wrestlemania during the interview. Hogan would fight with a black eye during Wrestlermania 9, due to being hit by a jetski, but the urban myth which was backed up by Jim Cornette is he was walloped by Randy Savage. This would have occurred during the timeframe of 4 days between this interview and Wrestlemania 9.
@andrew7440
4 ай бұрын
He mentions wrestlemania IX at 5½ minutes.
@DJMattHealey
4 ай бұрын
@@andrew7440 Ah yes. Missed that 😆
Fun fact - Judi Spears interviewed David Schultz shortly after this interview and was unfortunately hospitalised.
@SeeYouNextTuesday-
5 ай бұрын
I wish this was true
@SnookerMafia-or6nu
5 ай бұрын
Haha that’s a great comment 😂
@TJ_1611
5 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
What a superb and honest interview.
He lost weight in that clip. When he had his weight on, in 80s, he seemed BIG fella. Don't think I will want to upset him lol.
such a great interview from Hulk
Is this the 1st time Hogan was in the White and Black
@Mark-England
5 ай бұрын
No
Wrestling may be staged but it doesn’t mean anyone can do it. Unless you are a strong athlete you wouldn’t last 5 minutes
@SychoSam
5 ай бұрын
If some fat guys / girls with busted up knees and hips can do It, why not?
He’s told this story about writing a song numerous times and the narrative changes on each occasion
@only1icon1801
4 ай бұрын
The man is a crook 😂😂😂
Mr Nanny is one of the most underrated movies of all time. It was a staple in our house. Even more than Home Alone.
@Mark-England
5 ай бұрын
Agreed
@mbad7827
5 ай бұрын
"so sue meee!"
@Kuli24000
5 ай бұрын
@@mbad7827 "Yoooou liiiied." lol. Such a great movie.
@Mark-England
5 ай бұрын
@@mbad7827 😂
@mbad7827
5 ай бұрын
@@Kuli24000 Suburban Commando is another childhood guilty pleasure, hearing Undertaker talk cracked us up.
Three years later after this interview marked the greatest heel turn in rasslin’ history. 4Life.
@captainforty573
5 ай бұрын
I don't think Hogan's heel turn gets enough credit. It was shocking.
@SelectorJohnson
4 ай бұрын
@@captainforty573 Changed the game.
@only1icon1801
4 ай бұрын
Overrated, the market in America lapped it up but worldwide this man is a nose dive
I can't believe I'm finally seeing this- this is the interview that caused my mum's utter hatred of Hogan. She couldn't believe he used Jamie Bulger's murder to promote his song. She spits blood to this day if I mention his name, 31 years later! Also quite hilarious how he tried to make excuses for his dramatic 'weight loss'. It's because the WWF's then owner, Vince McMahon, was currently on trial for distributing steroids to his wrestlers. Hogan and The Ultimate Warrior had shrinked back down to human size by this point, to avoid the inevitable lawsuits!
Yeah, I remember that heel turn when Hogan joined ICOPRO World Order!
@Craigers8637
5 ай бұрын
LOL
He's talking about taker with the tombstone pile driver..if you watch that match, hulks head and neck weren't even touched
@rjperfetto584
5 ай бұрын
Taker squeezed too hard.
@sneezintits2354
5 ай бұрын
He said it was wrestlemania... not survivor series.
@F5_cena
5 ай бұрын
Hulk Hogans head wasn't anywhere near the canvas when he did tombstone
@fuzzluvver69
5 ай бұрын
@@F5_cenaYour head doesn't have to hit to get a stinger in your neck, just a jolt from the move itself making it jerk. It's weird that so many people don't get that when it's incredibly simple to understand.
@Rschr101
5 ай бұрын
Whatever helps you sleep at night
Let me tell ya somethin', Mean Gene. It was a good thing that reporter didn't ask the Hulkster to put her in a headlock. Because if she had, she would have ended up laying on the floor, unconscious, with the back of her head split open, dude.
@Rschr101
5 ай бұрын
Good ol' one ball Belzer deserved that one.
The outcome of the match is predetermined. That's why it's called "Sports Entertainment". It is not real competition. However, most all of the moves are real and any regular person would end up in the hospital if they were in the ring with any of these guys. It is very rough & dangerous. Sometimes guys really do get hurt.
@Tom67Slick
5 ай бұрын
the moves are choreographed and not real
@yesterdayproductions1019
5 ай бұрын
@@Tom67Slick You are splitting hairs Pal. The moves are done NOT to seriously hurt the other wrestler. However, the moves DO hurt to various degrees and you wouldn't last 2 minutes in the ring having any of those moves done to you, so shut up.
@muratisik6956
5 ай бұрын
They don’t throw real fists or kicks like in the UFC It’s scripted. As Hulk says: they are actors
@yesterdayproductions1019
5 ай бұрын
@@muratisik6956 So What? The Wrestlers are better athletes & The UFC is not as entertaining and is stupid & barbaric. The kick that Goldberg gave Brett Hart ended his career.
@fuzzluvver69
5 ай бұрын
@@Tom67SlickIncorrect. Choreographed, yes, but at that time still a great many wrestlers worked 'snug' which means that they still went full contact when they were in the ring, just not with the intention of messing each other up, but in many cases punches were real, kicks were real, slams were real etc. Not like today where they minimise all contact at all times and the product looks indisputably much worse for it.
This is so cute, he even looks a little shy at points.
I’m howling with laughter at the icopro tshirt lol
@MrRorySteel
5 ай бұрын
why?
@Masada1911
5 ай бұрын
@@MrRorySteel I just think its funny. Fun little sign of the times
@MrRorySteel
5 ай бұрын
@@Masada1911 Ah right thought there was something I was missing with the howling
@Masada1911
5 ай бұрын
@@MrRorySteel not really. I just thought it was funny given what ended up happening with icopro
Mr.Hulk single handedly developed wwf,wwe 🇮🇳
It's amazing, how he "shrunks" from 1992 to 1993. He was half the size as usual in 93'🫣
@fuzzluvver69
5 ай бұрын
Because WWF and Vince McMahon were under scrutiny at that time due to the steroid trial so they had to cut back.
@marioburku-drummer
5 ай бұрын
@@fuzzluvver69 Yeah that's true, but you can see just on hogan's physicue how much weight he lost, the other wrestlers were in same shape as usual, or am i wrong?🤔
@fuzzluvver69
5 ай бұрын
@@marioburku-drummer I think some were and some weren't, which might be more indicative of who was more 'naturally' big and who had to get more 'help' to stay that size. So the likes of Crush for example - stayed big, but I don't think he was ever really on much, he was just a naturally bigger guy. But if you look not only at Hogan, but at Beefcake - he looked like a tub of lard in 1993 compared to how he looked even a year earlier. Randy Savage quit going shirtless altogether in 1992. Hercules was clearly off the gas then gone by Spring 1992. Heck even Shawn Michaels lost his trim shape for maybe a year or so around that time. The ones I'm not sure about that didn't seem to suffer at all were Luger and Scott Hall. But overall it was a bit of a mixed bag - some definitely did noticeably lose muscle though.
@marioburku-drummer
5 ай бұрын
Yeah, lex luger and scott hall both lost a ton of muscle, look at them 1988/89 and then 1993/94, half of the size as back then🤝👍
@nick56677
5 ай бұрын
He blamed it on injuries 😂 it had nothing at all to do with being off roids and the new drug testing policies, not at all BROTHER
This was Hogan during his off the gas phase.
Fake is implying they're playing pretend. You can't pretend with a 300lbs guy. I wrestled in the past and the word "fake" is beyond ignorant. It's pre determined. Wrestlers do get hurt and sometimes severely. It's tremendously rough on the body long term. Hogan did well here taking it off the chin and defusing the situation with sort of education, rather than being defensive. Scripted, yes. Fake, it is not.
I think for all wrestling fans, regardless of how old you are, Hulk Hogan is the most famous and recognisable wrestler in the world. I think his image has and his legacy have been tarnished by some of his lies and some of the things he has done, but he’s still a hero to a lot of people.
Little did Hulk know how bad his vertebrae would get over the years. He's had over a dozen back operations, neck fusions, knee and hip replacements. He can barely stand today and has lost several inches of height.
He done finishing the movie, Mr. Nanny. A good movie of hogan. I love his movies.
Do not ask any wrestler if wrestling is fake.
Dodge the question, promote the product, they’ll forget about it in two seconds……. Well done Hulk
Hulk is thinking, let me show you this fromt headlock....
I remember those days in the UK
Hulk Hogan character In The film hates children but In real life he loves he loves them so much
I always thought Hulk Hogan was a bit of a bad ass - turns out he's a genuine nice guy. Great stuff!
@eclectica1
5 ай бұрын
Unless he's talking about black people.
@alexdavies7394
5 ай бұрын
That's something he can't disguise.
@homesteadlivingsolutions
5 ай бұрын
@@eclectica1hr was talking about one guy, not all black people. Racism is dead, get over the crybaby crap
@m.omoirokingyo
5 ай бұрын
@@homesteadlivingsolutions”racism is dead” that’s literally not true and also u can’t be speaking on everyone
@homesteadlivingsolutions
5 ай бұрын
@@m.omoirokingyo why not? The leftists do when they call us a racist nation. They want collectivism for everything else
When it comes crashing down and it hurts inside!
So sad that his son turned out to be such a reckless endangerment to others😮
What a GREAT GUY!
Hulk Hogan's career was over in the WWE by this time. He originally left in early '92 and that should have been it.
He almost looks like NWO Hogan with the black & white attire.
I was 5 when that movie came out and I loved it.
I'm a HULKAMANIAC! Despite things that he's said over the years! I never had a Father! So I looked up to guys like HULK! 24 inch PYTHONS! I absolutely loved him on TV!
During their 1993 tour of UK? Went to see him beat Yokozuna
Hogan advertising the NWO attire before it was made official 3 years after this appearance. Always the smart business man.
i thought that Mr Nanny was a 1991 or 1992 movie... wow
I always hated when people ask that question because if you're not a wrestling fan and you don't understand the business It's not a fair question to ask. To people that don't understand what wrestling is then yes it's fake. They are stunt men performing stunts in front of a live crowd, nobody is really winning or losing and the titles don't actually mean anything. So by that term yes it's fake but what they put their bodies through and what they permanently suffer with from the injuries and the abuse after all those years by those terms it's very much real and that is why it's not fair to say it's fake. They are the hardest working people in the entertainment industry and sometimes things can go terribly wrong so to judge them in a negative way because they are acting is not fair.
He is right. Bringing in families through sports entertainment Vs good old fashioned pro wrasslin' will always make more money. Aew wanted to go against this but now Danielson, mjf, omega are all injured probably due to wreslting stiff / showing off tougher spots more often and now major talent is all out at the same time. If everyone is hitting pile drivers for a 2 count every week, combined with blood and guts, wrassling/fight fans will get bored and demand more or leave. Actually quite shrewd by Vince/Hogan to move in this specific direction. Family based entertainment.
@FangMcFrost
5 ай бұрын
Omega is currently out due to Diverticulitis which has nothing to do with how he wrestles. Danielson is injured due to an accident, which I wouldn't say was due to how he wrestles either as Undertaker suffered the same injury in 1995 and both men wrestle totally different styles. It's just one of those freak accidents that happens within professional wrestling. As for MJF, his torn labrum is a recurring injury as the same injury occurred for him back in 2020 and around that time he was hardly wrestling and when he did wrestle, his matches were around five minutes long, so I think his injury can be put down to how he wrestles as he's probably been wrestling in a way that his body can't handle. That is all on him however, as he's also been doing spots on the fly, such as doing an elbow drop on to the floor when the table (which would have cushioned his fall) collapsed after he placed Jay White on to it during their match at Full Gear. MJF could have just moved on after that spot failed but he made the mistake of continuing with the spot anyway but without any protection (that being the table).
@Rocket1377
5 ай бұрын
Ironically, Hogan injured himself more with that leg drop finisher than the majority of modern wrestlers have with their more "reckless" style. The family friendly programming has nothing to do with how safe the in-ring wrestling is.
He recently became a hero
It was actually The Tombstone that he got from The Undertaker in November 91 that was talking about. And he didn't get injured The Undertaker made sure about that.
@fahidhussain2780
5 ай бұрын
It’s highly likely hulk couldn’t handle his own weight and that messed him up
when he said dont do drugs😂😂 yeh that way theres more for him
Unpopular opinion perhaps but he really should have revisited the Thunderlips character! That was brilliant imo I had a discussion with my colleague about this he maintained if it wasn’t scripted like it is people would get too seriously hurt.. However I think they went a little too far ultimately.. I prefer how it was in the 70’s and 80’s presented more as a sport and while there were storylines and such it wasn’t a literal soap opera
At the beginning during the handshake "Gently does it." Yeah hogan, don't belzer her.
@F5_cena
5 ай бұрын
Yeah makes him pass out and Randy Orton rko
Scripted is the word she is looking for. The physicality of what it tskes to do this is definitely not fake.
Hulk finally tells the truth behind Hulkster In Heaven
It's always been fake, proper wrestling is a different sport altogether !
Hulk hogan should’ve David Schultz, her
💚
39 or 40 here. What a boss
Tried to kiss at her 0:15 🤣
"I love using people" - Hulk Hogan...at least he's being honest here.
He did not once call her brother 😂 I was expecting something like.... Reporter: Isn't wrestling fake? Hulkster: Well let me tell you something brother!
I thought Sports Entertainer was introduced about 10 years later?
Linda McMahon looking young here
@robertpusateri2345
4 ай бұрын
Hahaha
Seems really jarring seeing him not on coke or steroids.
Hulk only 39 here! Looks about 50.
Thegoat of wrestling
I forget how many Oscars Mr. Nanny got
Brother of ico pro
i thought he seemed mean but why is he sweet?
I got dropped on my head at Wrestlemania, except, you didn't. Hulk is a walking fabrication.
At least she didnt say fake to vader
And the textbook Hogan lies begin 0:49...💀 He wasn't injured at Wrestlemania, the "dropping of his head" was at Survivor Series 91 against Undertaker and he was perfectly fine. He is smaller as he is off the gas due to the steroid scandal at the time
@bluestar8434
6 ай бұрын
It's not "lying" it's "sports entertainment".
@64offsuiter
6 ай бұрын
But this IS how to handle that question politically. It's a good interview answer to protect image and product.
@Aizenborgman
6 ай бұрын
That is Not a lie he forgot . So stop acting like a kid
@wildwine6400
5 ай бұрын
@@Aizenborgman lol? They you don't know Hulk Hogans reputation for laughably bad lies. Theres hours and hours of videos of Hogan lies on here and people disproving them
@Aizenborgman
5 ай бұрын
@@wildwine6400 My friend, I am sorry if my words are harsh, but some Americans like you are easy to deceive. You judge things with incomplete information.misinformation. Hulk Hogan does not claim to lie, he forgets, but you prefer to call him a liar. He forgot his place at WrestleMania 30. He said Silver Doom instead of Super Doom. This does not mean that he is a liar. Hulk Hogan sometimes speaks as Hulk Hogan and not as terry bollea. He said it once in court when the lawyer asked him. He said that he speaks as Hulk Hogan, which is why he exaggerates his words sometimes. He also said it in his interview with The Voice as well. He said that I am taking advantage of that. It is clear that he is doing this because he is tired of the journalists trying to attack him, which is why he speaks like Hulk Hogan. You do not distinguish the difference between his speech as Hulk Hogan and his speech as terry bollea. you want to talk abou lying. some of you wrestling Fans are the biggest liars on the face of the earth. When you parrot each other's words and spread lies that Hulk Hogan never wants to lose, even though he lost many matches in WCW and when he returned to WWE in 2002 and 2003, this all proves that many of you are real liars.
Did Terry just take "credit" for breaking kayfabe? For real?
@bdot187um
4 ай бұрын
Vince was the one who officially broke kayfabe in 1989.
Now this was Terry doing the interview. No you know brother and nothing at all.. cool
UK wrestling was kinda fake too but as kids we don’t see this, adults ruin things, ‘hey teachers leave those kids alone’
The term sports entertainment came about not for the kids, but for tax reasons, and legal reasons. Claiming to be a real sport they would have had to engage in real and regular drug testing. (Also the real reason Hulk lost weight, he stopped taking steroids) Tax would also have been much higher as a sporting entity than an entertainment industry.
And only a few years later, the beer drinkers were back for the blood & ta tas of the Attiude Era 😂
thought that was Jimmy Saville
@FiveDORRA
5 ай бұрын
Hulk was worse than Jimmy
@rajnirvan3336
5 ай бұрын
😂😂 Roland Rat once called Chris Tarrant by that name
@fuzzluvver69
5 ай бұрын
No you didn't.
Was hulk calling wrestling sports entertainment before Vince?
@bdot187um
5 ай бұрын
Actually vince coined the phrase in the 80s.
Soo' hulk-hogan look's jang @ That's time.
God I hated this crap daytime telly chat show, it was so mind numbingly dull. But Hogan was very graceful and charming here. I couldn't tell you what happened to the interviewer, though.
@mikeymodelle5617
6 ай бұрын
Judo Spiers, whenever I see a clip of her I'm taken back to the early 90s and been off school ill and laying on the sofa watching the 4 channels, I'd watch stuff like this as there was no choice, things like Going For Gold, Through the Keyhole and repeats of Ever Decreasing Circles, Bread, Quincy, Perry Mason and Petrocelli 😂
@FiveDORRA
5 ай бұрын
WHY so much hatred for an innofensive chat show? It seems you are the one with the problem
@martinrichard542
5 ай бұрын
If you lived in the South West of UK Judi Spiers used to read out birthday cards that kids had sent in and her side kick was a rabbit called Gus Honeybun . The things we remember. She went on to host Pebble Mill and then they sold the land and flattened it.
Hulk Hogan on Pebble Mill ???!!!
@mrnaughtycat
5 ай бұрын
It was a uk tv studio not sure if it still exists
Hulk hogan accepted Jesus as his savior now. He is new created man.
@sharker102s
5 ай бұрын
luv your comment
The NWO stuff was cool but it's Red & Yellow all the way! Untouchable!
Masa ni Hogan sudah berumur 40 tahun rasanya 😅
It's scripted for sure, but then as long as you know that it's a fab time watching it.
Plus I'm off the roids, brother!
@footballhipster
6 ай бұрын
Or maybe not, dude!
She was lucky it wasnt Vader…
He lost weight meaning “stopped taking roids” 😆😆
0:49 oh lie number one kayfabe
"The film was poorly received by critics. On Rotten Tomatoes it has an approval rating of 6% based on reviews from 16 critics. On Metacritic, the film had an average score of 18 out of 100, based on 13 critics, indicating "overwhelming dislike"" Oh no 😔
@orangejjay
6 ай бұрын
Critic scores are not necessarily a good measurement of film quality. There's been plenty of poorly rated films and shows that became cult classics and/or are loved by audiences.
@ihiohoh2708
5 ай бұрын
It has some charm to it, but it's a very typical cheesy early 90's kid's movie. In all honesty, Hogan isn't a very good actor either. I've watched it a few times in my life as a kid, but that is probably more to do with me being a Hogan fan than it is it being a good movie.
@BAztid
5 ай бұрын
@@orangejjay 6% dude. It's garbage.
Notice how he takes credit for ending kayfabe?
@Mcwaffles86
6 ай бұрын
Yea lol
@FiveDORRA
5 ай бұрын
Hulk also invented the internet, Tesla, the iPhone, and eBay yet he never got the credit BROTHER
@fuzzluvver69
5 ай бұрын
But that IS what happened - it was McMahon in 1989 that publicly announced it (mainly to avoid having to pay state commissions), and at that time it was right in the middle of the McMahon / Hogan empire, so you can bet 100% that they discussed it before it happened. This is actually one of the things Hogan says that is LEAST likely to be a lie.
Hogan wearing that black & white long before NWO.