I am from Odessa, so you have to understand Mojo football. It was ALWAYS this way, being smaller and underweight. The thing you must understand is that Mojo plays 4 QUARTERS, and they were ALWAYS in better shape than the other team and they NEVER stopped and NEVER gave up.They were superbly coached, and most did not go on to play in college. This was the pinnacle of most guys careers. Thats Permian football in the nutshell.

@patricksevers8012

2 жыл бұрын

Got 3000 students shouldn't be undersize sounds like excuses

@davidloter5391

Жыл бұрын

My alma mater beat them in 95' State Championship Game. Great Game Too. 🚀🚀🚀

@cmbishop21

Жыл бұрын

Converse Judson is one of the premier programs in the country.

@cmbishop21

Жыл бұрын

Don't have to make excuses when you are great.

@Kyle899

Жыл бұрын

@@patricksevers8012 but they won a lot.

I played QB and DB for the Rebel teams in 1988and 1989 and now have a 10-yr-old son who is fascinated by the Lee/Permain rivalry. I was just goofing off to see if any old footage was on youtube to show my son and BAM! did this video bring back some memories! I can't tell you how many people I've met over the yrs on planes, etc. and gotten to talk about the book and movie. What an amazing time in my life! I'll NEVER forget those days! Vince Henderson, 1990 Lee graduate and Rebel forever!

@martindunham4696

6 жыл бұрын

Do you have any tapes from your years that you'd be able to share/copy?!

@dfrank2356

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks for posting on this. It's interesting to see from those who were actually there. Sometimes when you get into a movie you forget that these were real people playing a real game. It brings the movie to life, which is really cool.

These guys were small....damn.

@zekegarzaiii2012

3 жыл бұрын

These guys were small but alot heart.

@bricksampson654

3 жыл бұрын

Dude shit was different back then. Permian is definitely small if the measurements are correct & true. On paper they are small but they don’t look real small watching this. Football was so different back then, speed has taken over. Big shoulder pads, lineman with huge guts, mullets, big hair, hairy muff’s, hairy pee pee’s, keggers, def leppard, etc.

@vingable

3 жыл бұрын

Technique and heart win every time. Putting a 300 lb d lineman on his ass is simple if you hit his knees properly. Permian almost never missed.

in the movie billingsley is about 6 "2" and in this he is only like 5 "7"

@spinner9057

3 жыл бұрын

And he had a touchdown in this game. In the movie, he had a fumble and ripped the guy down by his facemask.

@BlueWallFull4331

Жыл бұрын

And he looks like he weighs 120

Odell Beckham is the father of LSU WR Odell Beckham Jr., if you haven't heard of him. He is a nominee for the Bilitnikoff award.

@A.C31

7 жыл бұрын

Gregory Owen I think everyone has heard of him, by now!

@muhammadfarhan581

4 жыл бұрын

And now beckham jr is a diva wr lol. At least hes no antonio brown

I was the water boy on this team and took this loss really tough...................cuz we ran out of water in the 3 rd quarter

@ericwicker2223

6 жыл бұрын

Tiger Jingles. How did y'all run out of water during the game?

@stevenscummy1458

6 жыл бұрын

Its all your fault bitch

@crom5423

5 жыл бұрын

Don't feel to bad, water in west Texas wasn't easy to come by.

Thanks to everyone posting on this. It really made the movie come to life for me, even if Hollywood did take liberty with the story. Reading all your comments is like taking a history course in Texas high school football, which is very interesting.

This just show that when a team knows how to play football it doesnt matter your size. When I saw everyones stats at the beginning of the video I was astonished. Then when I watched the clips I was stunned at how well they ran plays for a high school team. So smooth and almost everyone was picking up their assingment . Every play run soundly.

It's funny to me when I see ppl making comments about the size of the players in this game about how small or how much bigger this and that. They don't realize these two teams could roll any opponent regardless of the oponent size. These two schools combined have 15 trips to the State championship in the highest classification, 9 championships and 3 National titles in 35 years.

@henryjw15

4 жыл бұрын

C ROM not to mention all the other schools of the district.

The 1988 Carter Cowboys had I think nine players who were offered Division I scholarships. Very talented team.

@vingable

3 жыл бұрын

I think the final number was actually 21. A small number may haven’t been d-1 but it’s still preposterous. The Carter team in 88 and the Houston Yates team in 85 were off-the-charts with talent.

@cameronhenson6096

3 жыл бұрын

Some say one of the best teams ever to play high school football. Anyone that saw Dallas play agree??

This video clip is awesome. Good broadcast production, considering it's just a game done by a local TV station in the late 1980s.

Thanks. Like I said, it took me about 6 or 7 years to find, ever since I read the book Friday Night Lights. I asked people all over Odessa but nobody had it. Almost miraculously, someone contacted me letting me know they had it. I'm still looking for the Marshall game from that year (and the Marshall, Midland Lee, and Aldine games from 1989 and Arlington from 1987), but I know all of those exist somewhere. People have them, I've just not been able to trade.

This is AWESOME. THAN YOU. Loaded Backfield Offense and Power Sweeps. That long TD pass to Hill was pretty. Love High School Ball!

When I played, I was a 175 pound guard so I know how it feels for that o-line. We ran a wing t though so it didn't really matter about being too big.

Glad you liked it. There is a quick highlight of the 1989 game on youtube as well, but seeing how disappointed you were after that one (and I'd have been too), you might not want to watch it. Pretty cool to have someone who played in this game comment on the video and like it.

I'm English. Watched the film. Loved the book. Thanks for posting

Wow Billingsley was tiny

increible historia, un saludo desde Texcoco, México

I just can't stop but awe at the fact the Panther team holding hands in the huttle

Still love this team! Florida was like this back in 80s & 90s all about football. Pop Warner, high school, college... seems the thrill has gone after so many things are now more dominant. 😞

It’s weird to see how small the lineman were back then. Even for high school

@octaviousfair9742

3 жыл бұрын

Damn, they really were a small team. In the movie they said that.

@nosir1440

3 жыл бұрын

In the book and movie they were undersized. It’s true they really were but man could they play football

@jamesfields2916

3 ай бұрын

My local high school in Georgia had an O line in 2018 that averaged 300 lbs. All talented and all signed with D1 schools. Two signed with Ole Miss. One with Florida. One with Ohio State and one with Alabama. The one who signed with Bama was the center who had such a rough game against Michigan.

I never knew that. Thanks for sharing. I knew Roy went to Permian, but didn't know he and Lloyd Hill were related. I guess it runs in the family, though, to be an outstanding WR.

Basically, in the Wing T, the QB was numbered a low 20 number to help keep the backs organized or something to help with naming/calling plays. And then it became a tradition.

Lloyd hill is a boss on this video. Why wasn't he in the movie?

@KeithStone777

3 жыл бұрын

@Jay Sebring says the dude that never played sports let alone the greatest sport ever

@KeithStone777

3 жыл бұрын

@Jay Sebring I don’t associate myself with Commies

@crispypigskin8578

3 жыл бұрын

@Jay Sebring I’d like to know, in brief, what was the inaccuracies in movie that actually happened in 88 season. Aloha from Hawaii🤙

@nosir1440

3 жыл бұрын

@Jay Sebring shut up nerd

Great video -- please keep 'em coming!

No. He had already quit the team because he wasn't being played. Ironically, it was this game, the Midland Lee game, that he quit after. He didn't make the trip to Austin for the Dallas Carter game. He listened on the radio if I remember. I don't know anything about the halftime speech. I know that it was 7-6 in favor of Carter at that time, so it wasn't like he was trying to get them to come back from 21 points or whatever it was.

@Cre8ionz: Booby was 35 and Comer was 45. Lots of numbers incorrect in the movie.

This is great!!!! thanks for putting uo

they used different numbers because they matched the players for the 2003 (i think) season. they had stunt doubles use those numbers for some footage, but they also used real game footage in the movie.

I'd love to see the 1991 Permian at San Angelo Central game if that tape is floating around anywhere. I know it was televised as I've seen a couple highlights with this play by play guy on it. Amazing how small the offensive lineman were!

@jacobflores9367

8 жыл бұрын

Someone posted it this week

@SheaHarris

8 жыл бұрын

+Jacob Flores Yep I watched it!

They may be smaller than the kids now days but they look a hell of alot tougher than the kids now days.

@Agslions

5 жыл бұрын

Permian's off-season program back then wouldn't fly today. Teens today would pass out 15 minutes into it.

THIS...is one hell of a video. awesome.

3:55 - that ball went almost 50 yards in the air and was right on the money. That's pretty impressive for high school.

0:22 BILLLINGSLAAAAAY...........Billingsley, party at Taylor's house now Billingsley! We're gonna be there, we're gonna get wasted, party at Taylor's house! BILLINGSLAAAAAY!!!! Meanwhile, Chavez casually goes "isn't that guy like 35?"

There are no films of the Palo Duro scrimmage. I know a few people have the 87 Permian-Arlington game (which I don't even have myself but I want and have tried to trade forever for). However, the star of that game is Shawn Crow.

OMG! Great video! How did you get this?

Any time, I only wish I had more... The Coach Gary Gaines was named the head coach of Odessa Permian recently, so he came back almost 20 years later. I e-mailed him asking if he had film of any of the games laying around there and he said no, but I sent him a DVD of this and the 1989 Aldine state championship game which I also have.

this is inspirational. they were so good, but they were so small. this inspires me cuz im an undersized lineman

Glad you liked them!

wow, they really were small haha. i know players were smaller back then but not that small. and i also know that they were a small team, but under 200 pound linemen? damn and thanks for posting this video!

Well, I have no affiliation with the movie, Hollywood, etc. I can only guess that they didn't include McDougal because he was a lineman and nobody likes watching linemen sadly. I always watch the lines because that's where I played, but average Joe Football fans wanna see flashy high-flying catches and runs and whatnot, not intense blocking. And as far as Billingsley goes, again, I think it was just to make that storyline with his dad have some kind of facilitator.

@XxGREEN11xX Permian didn't play in State. They played Dallas Carter in the semifinals and lost. Carter won the next week, and won state.

@fredwoods9403

3 жыл бұрын

Then they went to jail it's a movie about them on Netflix that Carter team

Winchell does look like Lucas Black sort of.

@Kolegate

9 жыл бұрын

I agree. Lucas and the real Winchell could be brothers.

@sedro32 If there was one main character, it was McDougall, although he followed about 6... And this game was actually a district ballgame. The Carter game (also on youtube, as you've commented on), was the semis.

Haha, I had forgotten that. It was probably done for comedic factor. Boobie got hurt in the scrimmage, not in the Marshall game (which Marshall actually won 13-12, and it was played in East Texas). And Chris Comer was depicted as being hopeless, but he was really a good player. He won the national championship the next year.

always wondered why Lloyd Hill was never mentioned in the film. He was the best player on the team and the only one to play in the NFL (besides Case, who was only 3rd stringer at the time in 1988.)

@carlosjaramillojr.6302

5 жыл бұрын

Johnny Utah probably because the movie was mostly about boobie, so by putting Hill it would take off some of boobies credit I guess

@CS-np2oo

4 жыл бұрын

Roy Wliams of the Cowboys, Bears and Lions played at Permian. So did Britt Hager and Dayrl Hunt play in the NFL as well.

where did you get this footage? do you have anything on the state championship against dallas carter?

Why does the movie have Chaves at Safety and Comer #42? That just movie mistakes? Great video btw.

@A.C31

7 жыл бұрын

keith chamblin They don't care about correct numbers in movies, for some reason. Probably because 99.9% of viewers have no idea what numbers these guys really wore.

why didnt it show a pic of Chavez?

@carlosjaramillojr.6302

5 жыл бұрын

JZdude518 racists I guess

@DanielSanchez-rv6it

5 жыл бұрын

Cuz Donald trump doesn’t like Mexicans hahaha

@Democratic_union

4 жыл бұрын

They didn’t show defense

@JZdude518

4 жыл бұрын

NOXISUM chavez was a tight end irl

@Kaitlin24247

3 жыл бұрын

@@DanielSanchez-rv6it youre a idiot yes he does dumbass

@hottiecne37 I know! That disappointed me! I wanted to see all of the guys that were focused on in the book, but sadly he was mentioned but not pictured. He was a key player, too, and very smart.

I played in this matchup in 1993 and 1994.

@madvillain6184 He didn't have offers from any of those schools; he had heard interest from them. He didn't receive any full rides at all. His grades held him back (as they did Comer). Boobie, even after recovering from injury, went to Ranger and still was terrible (not to mention unable to maintain grades and had to drop out).

Stormy was Stoney's little brother. Stoney didn't start over Winchell because he was younger and Winchell got the job done. He always threw some great blocks which is the QBs main job in the Wing T, not passing.

@Jose083192 - Boobie was changed to #45 for the movie, as the director decided to use footage from the 2003 Permian team instead of trying to film each and every football scene (which would've been very costly). On the 2003 team, the fullback wore #45. In reality, Boobie wore #35, Comer did indeed wear #45.

It's amazing.

ha memories for me I miss odessa

Oh, and this is the Midland Lee game, not the semifinal game against Dallas Carter which is the last game in the movie.

Do you have anything to trade? Mainly high school games is what I'm looking for, and mainly in Texas... But I'm open to others.

Why did they get the numbers wrong? With the amount of footage and information they obviously had, there is no reason for them to be wrong, they must have chosen to be a certain number... which still makes no sense

@johnierardi3850

5 жыл бұрын

PieandBiscuits The Movie gets a handful of things wrong. In the Movie Boobie is #45 and plays the tailback/running back position whatever you want to call it when he was actually a Fullback who wore #35. Don was the Tailback in real life but they make it seem like he had a hard time carrying the ball in the movie which was why he was at Fullback as a lead Blocker for Boobie. Chavez was #4 as the Strong Safety in the movie when he was really the #85 as a Tight End. Ivory was #90 as a defensive end in the movie when he actually wore 62 and played the Middle Linebacker position. Another thing I’ve noticed in the many times I’ve watched the movie is that they almost make it seem like it is Mikes first time being the starting QB at the Varsity level when he clearly started as a Junior in real life. In my opinion they make it seem like Mike didn’t know all the routes and plays like when he is going over some of the stuff with his mother at the beginning and then when Coach Gaines yells at Mike in the first few days of practice for throwing the wrong route. Making it seem like he was a Backup Quarterback as a Junior or a JV Quarterback as a Junior. It’s just interesting to me how many differences there are between the movie and the actual season in 1988. There is a whole Wikipedia page on the differences between the book/movie and the real life thing.

always tought Billingsley was this big powerback as he was in the movie ... but he was the same seize at me LOL :)

Yeah, it was. Permian rarely threw, but when Winchell was on, they were unstoppable with Lloyd Hill. Mike Winchell once said, "One day I throw like Roger Staubach, one day I throw like Roger Rabbit." This was definitely a time he threw like Stuabach, although later in the game he threw like Roger Rabbit (not shown in these highlights).

@DARIANxMASSACRE - He's standing on the sideline. Did not play this game, despite the movie's portrayal of him doing so. He "quit" after this game.

@PowhatanNDNZ12 The jerseys were huge back then.

lloyd hill was completely ignored in the movie, and he was a pretty good reciever according to the book.

this really cool!!

The entire O-line diving and rolling at the D-lines feet. They weren’t very big so I guess do what you can with what you got.

@trackstarallday He did in a preseason scrimmage, not during the season.

Yes, 22-21. This was the district game against Midland Lee, so they had to flip coins to see who would go to the playoffs. Midland Lee and Permian won the coin toss.

Damn I was 5'10 240 and not even considered big in today's game

I played running back for the saints in 82 and 83 went to noel elementary and I would have went to Permian to play ball I was being recruited in 4th and 5th grades parents got divorced moved to Clovis CA and continued to ball out but what could've been damn

Who would have thought 25 years later Billingsley would be more successful than Brian Chavez?

@shawnsafarik7702

5 жыл бұрын

How do you figure that....Chavez has a Harvard degree and has a law degree and an attorney...Billingsley is a guidance counselor

I got the entire game from a man in Odessa. I have highlights of the Carter game which was the SEMIFINALS. Carter won the semifinal game and then went to state and beat Converse Judson. I have the entire Carter vs Judson game which is the finals.

@oldskoolbrawler

3 жыл бұрын

Post it! I’d love to see it

Manny's right. He had a bad game while Winchell couldn't miss. During the season, the book doesn't mention him having many problems. He was just a wild one who straightened up once he went to college and hurt his knee, ending his football career.

wow these guys really were small. in the movie it said they were small but wow. i live in colorado and play on basically the worst team in 5A and i still think the smallest lineman on our team is pushing 215, and the average is i guess around 245. i guess it was different times back then and they probably didn't focus on the weight room as much as just playing some football.

Chavez did play safety as well as TE. They got most of the jersey numbers wrong .

@TheTexasboi27 Believe it or not, in real life, Marshall DID beat Permian. The game was played in Marshall on a Saturday afternoon, not a Friday in Odessa. Permian flew to East Texas to play the game. Marshall won 13-12. They had a RB named Odell Beckham who was REALLY good. They ended up losing to Carter 22-18 in the playoffs. Anyway. I went to Longview. That's how I know this haha. I know all about East Texas football and the history.

Hey, I recently came across a copy of that game. I uploaded highlights which you can see. I know it was a tough loss, but it has most of your really good passes including the TD pass that you threw. Just thought you might like to see it!

is chavez in this?

I kinda wish I could go to this school jut because of the history

The book and movie is so different

This is mint

Nah, I know that Jerry Hix was #20 in 1980, so it goes way back. And it's not stupid; it's a neat little tradition.

you're right

this is sickk

No, I don't. I've seen highlights. I've also looked forever for it but have had no luck. I'd trade three of my games for it or the Marshall game that year.

i wonder who would win nowadays? a team like the '88 panthers or this year's long beach poly from california

@MultiKeepitreal - In real life, Boobie was 35 and Comer was 45. In the movie, Peter Berg mixed in real footage of the 2003 team in order not to have to film each and every football scene... on the '03 team, #45 was the starting tailback, therefore Berg changed Boobie's number to 45 for the flick.

@ew5821

2 жыл бұрын

Comer was 42 in the movie.

@goten1214 you do! dude please put it up!

One thing i never got was why did they switch the number on Boobie and Comer, Boobie was originally #35 but in the movie he is #45, Comer was originally #45, but the movie he is either #42 or #43, never really got that

@goten1214 you just need to put in the description "Boobie Miles was #35 and Comer was #45" so its clear for everyone whos asking

@oldskoolbrawler

3 жыл бұрын

Or they could read the comments

Sure thing!

Jerrod McDougal never got the respect he deserved. if you read the book you know what im talking about

On the bench after his injury. He quit the team after this game.

@ScreamoMarius - He's #62 in this video. Playing middle linebacker.

I wanna know two things relating to the movie: 1) why Jerrod McDougal wasn't in the movie. Just because he was a lineman doesn't mean he doesn't have a story. Actually, it's quite fascinating that a five-six, 180 lbs. lineman could dominate the way he did. 2) Why do they portray Billingsley to have such a fumble problem? He only had one really bad game in real life, and that was the first game of the year. That boy could run.

Haha, they still called wide outs, split ends. It's crazy how much just the terminology changes, much less the actual formations and techniques.

and how does this affect a teams size...?

yes, i was aware of that.

@goYankees19 Thanks!

Watching film on mojo I realize that they really were small. From lineman to receivers to linebackers. I guess they just knew how to play football