1980: LIONS led by DONKEYS? | War School | Weird and Wonderful | BBC Archive
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What makes a good army officer? An ability to command? A private school education?
In 1980 the BBC put this question to the most pertinent people - the staff and students of the Army Staff College, Camberley. In between games of croquet and lessons about man management, a class of the college’s brightest and best discuss what makes an officer in the modern British Army.
Clip taken from War School: Officer Class, originally broadcast on BBC One, Wednesday 16 January, 1980.
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Colonel Graham Chapman did a very serious piece on exactly this subject in his 'Military March' scene AKA 'Camp It Up' for Monty Python.
"We're not a load of buffoons.... Not anymore..." 😂😂
Great footage thanks
I was expecting a video actually about donkeys leading lions into a zoo or something 😂😂😂
@JazzFunk22
Ай бұрын
🦁....🦁
@MichaelBosley
Ай бұрын
Narrated by Johnny Morris.
We had our fair share of useless RAF officers, without any sense of leadership! The useless pilot officers needed to be led by firm SNCO's!
The BBC should open up all their archives on I-player. I am assuming they have digitised all the film footage if not do it ! Post license fee and using a monthly fee I would happily pay. They have a huge (paid for by us ) archive and it seems wasteful that most hasn't been seen in generations. Like making a shirt and wearing it once before hanging it up for good.
@irishtino1595
Ай бұрын
Sadly the BBC destroyed many archives by taping over programs to save money.
Does the young officer get bummed when he's caught?
@fburton8
Ай бұрын
Bummed? By whom?
@robbflynn4325
Ай бұрын
@@fburton8 Lord Mountbottom.
@fburton8
Ай бұрын
@@robbflynn4325 🤣
@williammohan9784
17 күн бұрын
@@robbflynn4325 why are you disappointed you were refused a bumming
Drag hunt??
@Mick_Ts_Chick
Ай бұрын
Doesn't England prohibit hunting live foxes? Or was that still allowed in 1980 but they chose to do the drag hunt instead? Maybe there weren't many foxes where they were having the hunt.
@Alex-gx8ec
Ай бұрын
Drag hunting is the hunting of an artificial scent (not a fox), and is a distinct sport from fox hunting. Fox hunting was banned in 2005 (but in reality it often still happens)
@Mick_Ts_Chick
Ай бұрын
@@Alex-gx8ec Thanks for the date. I heard it was banned there but had no idea when.
@daniellamcgee4251
Ай бұрын
@@Alex-gx8ec Thank you for explaining. 👍
Well that’s an interesting way to start off the best decade ever
@CashelOConnolly
Ай бұрын
The best decade ever!!!! Reagan and Thatcher. Mass unemployment. AIDS. The Cold War. The constant threat of nuclear bombs. Greed and selfishness and mass homelessness. Yeah a really great decade NOT!
@daniellamcgee4251
Ай бұрын
Interesting perspective. Not shared by many at the time, it seemed.
@CashelOConnolly
Ай бұрын
@@daniellamcgee4251 people who think the 80’s were great weren’t the teenagers at the bottom of the pile socially or economically
Wally’s
@williammohan9784
17 күн бұрын
strange the four officers who commanded me, all from the upper class and public schoolboys, passed selection for the SAS.
_"Lions led by Donkeys"_ is a near perfect description of The First & Second World Wars.
@williammohan9784
17 күн бұрын
hate to tell you this mate, but by the end of WW1, over 60 percent of the officers came from the working classes. A lot of them were commanding battalions by wars end. The Chief of the Imperial Staff in the Great War, basically the top honcho, was Sir William Robertson, who was the son of a local postmaster. He joined up as trooper in the cavalry and ended up a Field Marshal. The first ever British Army VC, was one Luke O'Connor, an Irishman from a poverty stricken background whose family were evicted at the time of the famine in Ireland. He joined up as a private, won his VC in the Crimean War, and ended up a Major General in the British Army. So Lions led by Donkeys is just a load of bollox made up by one Alan Clark MP. Who admitted after he had written a book with this title, that in fact he had made it up.
@SandrasSpicySpanishSalami
17 күн бұрын
@@williammohan9784 Absolutely mate, I was more taking aim at the outward facing political arm of the international corporatist profiteers that by use of nonsensical treaties and a spider's web of formal agreements between supposedly independent nations managed to drag European Ethnic Brother to fight European Ethnic Brother in order to reshape borders, cement their control over international arms trade and sell untold amounts of their newest product: Antibiotics.
@SandrasSpicySpanishSalami
16 күн бұрын
@@williammohan9784 Absolutely mate, though I was actually commenting on the outwards political face of the hidden international banking industry that manipulated treaties and agreements between independent nations dragging European to fight European in the First War and rejected the countless offers for armistice as early as 1939 from the German Government.
@williammohan9784
16 күн бұрын
@@SandrasSpicySpanishSalami what hidden banking conspiracy, you couldnt be talking about a certain religion, because if you are, i dont want anything to do with you or your kind, cheers
@SandrasSpicySpanishSalami
16 күн бұрын
@@williammohan9784 I didn't say anything about any religion and for you to draw the inference is pretty anti-s€m€tic. My first reply yesterday was eight and a half paragraphs, but wouldn't post, odd one that, one would think that discussion of things wouldn't be an issue if it was easily disprovable or debunked. But fingers in the ears, humming loudly eh? Whatever works for you. 👍🏻
Read the Great War diaries of the fighting man. Donkeys leading lions is far to generous a comment upon the donkey, and far too stingy upon the lions.
@williammohan9784
17 күн бұрын
its a rubbish title made up by a Tory MP, who wrote a book of the same name, he said it comment make by a German General in the Great War but when challenged he said he had made it up. And if the officer class were donkeys, how bad were the Germans who actually lost to them
britiah culture is peak cringe, the unearned confidence is just too much to take sometines