Mike Mentzer the uncrowded champion by far

@robitaillecopeland1996

9 ай бұрын

5th place. Cope

@MightyMarven

22 күн бұрын

Let it go. According to the judges, Mike Mentzer looked unfinished at the 1980 Mr. Olympia. He lacked chest and back development and appeared flat from the side in comparisons. He wasn't robbed.

Arnold's legs missed the plane to Australia. They look thin viewed from the front and certain angles. I'd say his legs were only 60%-70% of his 1974 and 1975 condition.

@shred9475

5 ай бұрын

his chest was also downsized

These videos really put it into BOLD PERSPECTIVE that the winner WASN'T REALLY THE WINNER !!!

Loved this breakdown of the whole Olympia. Really gets into some of the back stories abd things you never heard about leading up to competition

I saw several articles an clips of the 80'O. Yours is the best! I'am a great fan of this precise and accurat researche and presentation 👍👍👍

Great video! It is worth pointing out that the next year’s Mr. Olympia (1981) was even worse ... with Franco coming back and winning! Danny Padilla, who as pointed out in this video, looked really good in 1980 ... solved his problems with conditioning and looked downright awesome in 1981. (I think he should have won that show.). It is also interesting that Samir Bannout, another guy with superior genetics, would crack the code of conditioning and show up a few years later to win the 1983 Olympia, decisively. Those were great days for pro bodybuilding ... lots of quality competitors... but also a couple of really suspect results at the Mr. Olympia contests of 1980 and 1981. You did a great job with this video and hope you continue making more about this period.

@smattgoss

Жыл бұрын

@Karol Che Arnold also won in 75 so he didn't withdraw

@ianlewis7749

Жыл бұрын

Yes...80 & 81 the judges were terrible.... But what about 82....? Chris Dickerson was only a top 5 at best....

@jamiealexander7065

Жыл бұрын

@Karol Che nope. Lou retired after 1975. Arnold initially retired after 1974, but was talked into competing one more time for "Pumping Iron"

@jamiealexander7065

Жыл бұрын

@Karol Che you're talking about 1980, I didn't even mention that. That came five years later.

@jimmysapien9961

Жыл бұрын

@Karol Che well of Coors

This is a very good documentary that should be shown on a commercial TV channel. Insane good work. Last but not least, - thank you

Fantastic video. Thank you for putting this together 👍

BRO!!!! This was the most in depth, and well researched piece EVER done on the travesty which was the 1980 Mr Olympia!!!! Well done!!! 007

Your videos are fantastic. From one of the best periods in bodybuilding. Thanks for your post.

MIKE METZER WINNER !!!

@shred9475

2 жыл бұрын

Nope lol

@RMokros

2 жыл бұрын

I agree

@smokingjazz5067

Жыл бұрын

Yes

@MP-pz9oe

Жыл бұрын

Danny Padilla winner !

@snakeeyes1662

Жыл бұрын

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines captain mantay

Great stuff! Please post more analysis videos with golden age competitions if you can. Besides that, keep up the good work!

The thing about the 1980 Mr. Olympia contest is that it was held during a time where bodybuilding was aiming to be very mainstream. Contracts were being made in the industry, bodybuilders were going to television and Arnold Schwarzenegger was the face of the sport, to the eye of the average american citizen, at least. Not only was Arnold the star who had been the winner 6 times in a row, he was also the upcoming hollywood star that wanted to make it big in the screen. That being said, at the time, Arnold was considered a mediocre actor, with his first critics being very harsh on him, so his muscles, his physique was his main product to sell him as good choice for starring in a movie. So you take that, and you have the sport's biggest name making a comeback during a time he wanted to get big in hollywood: how would it look for Arnold if he lost the 1980 Olympia? Why would anyone in hollywood cast him, a mediocre actor, with a strongh accent whose main thing were his muscles and those muscles didn't even win the Mr. Olympia contest? It would be a disaster for Arnold's career. Then, you add that to the fact that Arnold and Weider were fierce advocates for high volume training and supplements. That made them very good money, and at the time, with very little information around, people believed it. However, there was one specific individual that defied that. One man that went on the opposite direction and said that you actually needed much less training than Arnold and Weider advocated. Not only that, you didn't need the much talked about supplements the industry was selling. That man was Mike Mentzer, the first bodybuilder to ever earn a perfect score. A 5'8 man that held over 100kg of lean mass on stage, a weight that was only matched by prime Schwarzenegger, a man 6 inches taller. Mike Mentzer said Arnold Schwarzenegger and Weider were wrong and he proved it with his very own physique. Who could argue with that? So then you see, the 1980 Mr Olympia was rigged from the beginning. Not only that, the rigging began in 1979, when Zane, a 5'9 bodybuilder beat Mentzer, who was an inch shorter and 45 pounds heavier. You don't hear much about 1979 because it wasn't as outrageous as 1980, but Mike Mentzer should have won in 1979. They made him second because the guy that dared to challenge the norm in the IFBB could never be awarded. That would be the same as admitting they were wrong. And Weider and Schwarzenegger would never do that. But the people caught on and called them out on that. How could the perfect score, heaviest bodybuilder on stage be second? So, in 1980, they put Mike Mentzer at 4th place, tied with Boyer Coe, so that when people would point out Mentzer should have won, there would be 3 men between him and Schwarzenegger. Mike Mentzer is the true 1980 Mr. Olympia and 1979 Mr. Olympia.

@asfdghghsadiiillliiilligvi5797

10 ай бұрын

Also, I strongly suggest anyone reading this to search what the bodybuilders at the time said about their condition. Zane was injured and smaller than the previous year. Arnold was terrible. Mike Mentzer was the same, if not better, than the previous year. That was said by Frank Zane, Chris Dickerson, Tom Platz, Dennis Tinerino and many other bodybuilders at the time. It is sad that such an enormous amount of corruption made Mike Mentzer so disgusted that he quit competitive bodybuilding. Had he continued, I believe he would have gone to win several Mr. Olympias. His potential was unmatched.

@robitaillecopeland1996

9 ай бұрын

cope beta

An insane lot of work to present all this autentic stuff. Fantastic! Best ever in detail. Very impressive. Deserve a lot of respect and thank you so mutch ! So : Best ever !!!

Fantastic analysis! KZread brought me this channel video and I can't wait to see what else your channel has.

Mike Mentzer the true champion of 1980 Mr. Olympia

@robitaillecopeland1996

9 ай бұрын

reeeee

@shred9475

5 ай бұрын

nope

@oDnju

3 ай бұрын

Mike is loser

Really well done. Thank you!!

Excellent work! I have always been fascinated by the 1980 and 1981 Olympia's and have studied both extensively. Very enjoyable watch! If you ever want to cover the '81 show I'm sure many would enjoy it.

@thedon9670

Жыл бұрын

Yes please do!

This contest was decided from the start.

You have done a very impressive job here. No one else have presented so mutch very interesting and impressive facts. This is the best ever. So thank you so mutch. Hope you keep it up !

That was a fun video! Wasn't sure if I needed to watch another video on this subject but you proved me wrong.

Lovely video...!!! Great effort put in...!!

top notch doc. hope you make more doc's like this

This is a fantastic documentary ❤. Amazing work 👍😊😊

Excellent work, well done for this video

Great video thoroughly researched

Awesome Review And Vid!! Great Channel!

Wery impressive work to make this video. No one compare to this. I like it and love it. Best ever

Very good analysis of that event, you are fair, balanced, and spot on Good Job 👍

awesome ,this channel should grow

Superb video. A lot of time and effort must have gone into making this.

Beautiful vlog and channel 👍🙏❤️

Great video as always I recently watched an interview with Robby Robinson and he said he wished he had entered the 1980 Olympia if he had known Arnold was going to be in it to go up against him would have been awesome to see

@maxkruger3662

Жыл бұрын

Arnold might not have entered had RR entered!!!!!!

@TarkentonLarry-iu3qp

9 ай бұрын

@maxkruger3662, because after all.....he was known as the "black prince".

This is for sure one of the best and complete Documentaries ever made about this legendary Event. And that after almost 40(!) Years! Great research, rare footage, very interesting material in general, well and high sophisticated spoken by a serious but never boring and at the same time highly objective story teller👍 You did a really good Job 🙏 All thumbs up 👍👍👍 My Opinion is the same as many already said: Arnold is for sure a living Legend, his win was good for the Sport and the Movie Conan but he was not nearly as his best that Day. I spoke with the late Casey Viator many Years ago and he said that it was right that Arnold won. But in general it is very difficult to say who should made which placing because as a fan of all those names it is never ever an objective Statement after all these Years. Mentzer should have been placed much higher. That is clearly seen specially in this great Video. But they were and are even by todays standards all supreme and outstanding physiques forever. Ok, all the best to the producer of this movie and stay strong, greetings K.Pfützenreuter Pro Coach, former Athlet & Author (hope my english is fine & hope to win the magazine 😜)👍

@marianokrause-merkel1840

Жыл бұрын

Danke für deine kommentar!

What a great documentary, the winner of the 1981 Mr. Olympia would also be controversial and he happened to be Arnold's best friend.

Great Video!

RETRO MUSCLE- I sure hope you post more videos soon, was really hoping you would do that "Special" on Dan Lurie who inspired me as well (I had a Dan Lurie weight set from age 14) and I thought you would have loved to make a ton of videos on the amazing 1981 season, so many Grand Prix's and the Mr. O!!!!

The Weiders always fixed it for their Golden Boy, they did it previously when they disqualified Sergio for competing in a NABBA competition I believe, leaving the door open for Arnold to win the title. Then in '81 fixed again for Franco. Mr 'O' has always been "dirty". I met Arnold around the time and he looked small.

@christopherwood2290

2 жыл бұрын

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Of course they were fixed. No way Arnold would have been allowed to lose in 1980. Franco had gyno and terrible legs in 1981. Arnold was the promoter. Neither were the best man on stage.

@shaunguffey9199

Жыл бұрын

1969 Olympia, Sergio defeats Arnold 4-3(seven judges). 1970 Olympia, Joe Weider replaces one of the judges from the previous year with one favorable to Arnold, and Arnold wins 4-3. 1971 Olympia, Joe Weider tells Arnold not to compete in any other competitions, but doesn't inform any other competitors, especially Sergio. The other competitors compete in other competitions(like they did every year), and all get disqualified to compete in the Olympia, because of some new rule that nobody was told about(except Arnold was tipped off). Arnold wins the 1971 Olympia by default. He's the only competitor! 1972 Olympia, Arnold not at his best because of an injury and Sergio is back and better than ever. Many believe Sergio should've won, but Arnold wins the 1972 Olympia. Like the bodybuilders in 1980-81, Sergio quits competing in the IFBB, until a comeback in the 1980s. 1973-1975 Olympias, The Austrian Oak doesn't have the Myth to go up against.

@Itowle9

Жыл бұрын

Small? In comparison to who on stage? Legs sure but overall no way.

@sebastianofabriziolongo1938

10 ай бұрын

@@shaunguffey9199 finally, the True!

@TravisMcGee151

10 ай бұрын

@@Itowle9Legs count too.

Mentzer the REAL 1980 mr Olympia

@Purp4040

2 күн бұрын

Except no chest and an ok back. Zane looked better honestly so did dickerson.

Very nice analysis btw 👌

Wow, saw some footage on here, I have never seen before💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

Great video! Love the backstory. Such a tough one to call. Everyone had something to overcome. It is unfortunate that Mentzer never competed again. He packed a lot on his smaller frame.

RIP Mike the uncrowned Mr Olympia

Boyer coe had a great physique this contest

@TheSpritz0

3 жыл бұрын

100%

Great analysis of this Mr. Olympia. Love Tom Platz's mindset in the documentary "The Comeback"

I really enjoyed this. It was thoroughly researched, and the pictures were amazing! Must be really rare. Since apparently Arnold and the Weiders bought up all the footage and photographs that showed Arnold in a bad light. For my own two cents (its fun to play), I think Mentzer won it - putting him fifth is a clever tactic to separate him from the conversation about winning. Boyer Coe comes second, looked phenomenal but due to a bit of pec gyno and his genetically blocky abs. Zane comes third, conditioning on point as always but lacking in size. Dickerson fourth - he knew where his bread was buttered, as the British say, with the Weider Corp. Thanks again!

@shawnm4189

Жыл бұрын

I agree with your placings.

Tony Emmot had a very bad case of gyno in the 1980 Olympia! Smooth vid man love the intimate backstory!

Mentzer WAS mentioning Arnold in his Heavy Duty articles frequently, as the antithesis of proper training. Arnold's training methods were purported to be the very "vehicle" for his success. His mail order business was no small matter, neither was the very root source of his current success, which was bodybuilding. This, Zane, and Coe, was the impetus for him to go in there and and "set them all straight". He definitely set Zane up to compete so he could vanquish him. Arnold wrote about that and that he didn't want Zane's, "bruising his balls, or whatever", as an excuse to back out of the contest. Arnold's friend and fellow competitor Ken Waller commented that Arnold's '80 condition was a shadow of his previous condition. To paraphrase Kenny, "Arnold had a chest shelf deep enough that you could stand under it in the rain and not get wet. Why was he doing this? It certainly couldn't have been the (prize) money".

@stevekelley8283

2 жыл бұрын

I think you are on to something here, Sipping Tea. I've always thought that the biggest motivating factor in Arnold's return was to silence Mentzer. The Weider's also were motivated to do so as well. Unfortunately, Mike spent a lot of energy tearing down volume training (Arnold and the Weider System), and also supplements which were a HUGE money maker for Joe Weider. Mentzer had to be silenced and this was a way to do it; his placing 5th after almost winning in '79 is proof as far as I'm concerned. Had Mike just stuck to his training philosophy and let Arnold and other Weider acolytes stick to theirs, I believe he would have won multiple Olympia's.

@ironleader3169

Жыл бұрын

@@stevekelley8283 I agree!

@lateralus2199

Жыл бұрын

​@@stevekelley8283 Excellant analogy!

@HavanaOutpost

Жыл бұрын

Mike never won anything

@darkobliterator5525

Жыл бұрын

@@HavanaOutpost He won Mr Universe and Olympia 1979 +200lbs. Get your facts boy.

NO WAY Arnold wins. MIKE MENTZER WAS ROBBED

@josephjohnson8353

2 жыл бұрын

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Oh, there’s my bitch! Show us your pic to prove to us how much muscle you’ve built with all that volume!

@lateralus2199

Жыл бұрын

​@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines He looked better than Arnold. Bigger, more cut, and proportional. Arnold's legs looked like chopsticks! Arnold was a chest and bicep one trick pony. CBS knew it and took the footage off! Arnold and Joe Biden are the same. Rigged recipients! "Screw your freedom!"

@strangeuniverse1199

22 күн бұрын

Life is unfair and unjust at times. To bad the guy quit.

Very good film. Well researched.

Isn’t this the Mr. Olympia when the audience started yelling, “Rigged!” , when Arnold was announced the winner?

@robitaillecopeland1996

9 ай бұрын

no. Did you hear that from Mentzer fangirls like yourself?

That video was phenomenal! Well research and presented. Well done!

Interesting analysis!

Either Chris Dickerson, Boyer Coe or Mentzer would have been the best choice, not Arnold his legs were REALLY subpar...

Great research and analysis. This was a tough one because there wasn’t a clear winner on stage. Chris Dickerson was good but looked so small next to Arnold. Zane wasn’t at his best. Mentzer getting 5th was the biggest travesty. Seems like they do that when they have a theme champion picked - put the biggest challenger in 5th place so it’s harder to dispute.

@robitaillecopeland1996

9 ай бұрын

dumb

If only zane had not had that accident by his pool......things could of been so different. He was reportedly much heavier before his accident, and could of been even bigger on the stage. I remember looking at the magazines during 1980: and it was reported that he was on track for a fourth win. Can you imagine if he had beat arnold again, like he did in 68....boy that would of been an accomplishment. But even though he was smaller at the 80 Olympia: he was still in fantastic shape......and l believe he deserved to win: it should not be just about size, size....and yet more size.

@scottbruns2148

Жыл бұрын

It was fixed for Arnold! Even if Zane was healthy and bigger, the best he probably would have gotten would have been second place! Weider's boy was not going to lose!

@robitaillecopeland1996

9 ай бұрын

when he beat Arnold when Arnold was 19 y/o. Wow. So impressive

Did your homework! Nicely presented

Great video mate. Really impressed with the content. This is only my opinion, trying to look at this neutrally, I feel it isn’t as much of a controversial decision as people always make out. It’s not like Arnold didn’t look good, it just wasn’t his 75 performance. I feel the Franco Win should have been much more controversial

Pumping Iron ll did come out, but it was focused on 'The Women'. Most of the footage for The Comeback was taken by Kit Laughlin, at the time a live TV director at the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. Freelance editor Geoff Bennett edited the film.

Thankyou for sharing this awesome Video what magazine covered this event is there a few can anybody let me know?. I was fortunate to be at this event that night it was absolutely incredible. If anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated

Great video, thanks

The 1980 contest was a paid-advertisement for Ahh-nold as he promoted his upcoming movie Gonad the Barbellian. My friend Mike Mentzer was the favorite having placed 2nd to Frank Zane (who was seriously injured weeks earlier and not prepared) in 1979. He was 5th. Ahh-nold should have placed no higher than 6th.

@mohammadsufian7890

2 жыл бұрын

Really? Who are these 5 guys that should be higher than Arnold? He dwarfed both Zane, mentzer and Dickerson.

@drbonesshow1

2 жыл бұрын

@@mohammadsufian7890 You must be the guy with the one-eyebrow. Over which eye? Both.

@johnnycampbell7691

Жыл бұрын

Size wasn't as important back then even into the 80s until the 90s and Dorian it was and still should be about who is the most complete bodybuilder conditioning and development.

Mike mentzer and Frank Zane should have one first and second!

balancing shape,genetics,condtioning, size --my placing- and ive seen some of these guys live... mike first, dickerson 2nd, zane 3rd, zane and Chris had great genetics--- Arnold had half a body that night-- I remember in the summer of 80 Arnold came up to our gym to do a seminar-- he was about 215 lbs, long hair, cocky, looked bored, ha I was 20.

I spoke with Frank and Barbara Burwash a couple of days after the debacle, at their Dandenong Gym, and after they came back from Sydney, and with Boyer Coe in '85 in Palm Springs. They ALL said the same thing, it was a sham. Frank was really pee'd off saying the whole thing was BS, and a set up. They gave their reasons, which included, among other players, Paul Graham. I also spoke with many of the Aussie BB's who went to the comp, and they too said it was BS. I was intending to go, as I was a trainer and IFBB judge, but Frank advised it wasn't worth it and he'd fill me in when he got back. Boyer confirmed that a trophy was smashed back in the change rooms, out of anger and disgust at the BS, but I've forgotten who he said it was. It could have been Mentzer as they'd argued pre-comp.

@nifty1940

Жыл бұрын

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Were you around, as an adult, competitor, or in the audience, in those days? As I was part of the Australian in-crowd, their experience,and the telling of what they saw and believed, has far more weight than yours, especially so late after the event.

@nifty1940

Жыл бұрын

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines I'm 82. I was well and truly around then, at the start of the black-iron era. I was also an experienced IFBB, NABBA and qualified physical therapist. You said you weren't around then, or perhaps not even born. So the physical dynamics are unknown or lost to you. While I understand that your opinion is to be respected, it's based on an-after-the-event as viewed on a video. I was involved in actual time. Based on that I can only conclude that, your opinion is speculative and subjective (emotively charged). BTY: Do you believe that Bruce Lee was the greatest fighter that was ever born, and what is your age and BB experience?

@nifty1940

Жыл бұрын

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Your age and experience has every thing to do with the topic (Arnold and the infamous win) at hand! You claim, and assume, you definitively knew what happened. I say, that unless you were in real time contact with the players, who were actually involved, you are little more than a speculator, and a keyboard jockey, and by your comments, uninformed, unqualified, and emotively biased, lacking objectivity. The qualified opinions, of the actual players, carry far more trustworthy weight than yours. The politics in too many of these contests aren't known to the general public, but they are real, as it was then!

@andrewrehnert4997

Жыл бұрын

@@nifty1940 spot on 👍🏻

@lateralus2199

Жыл бұрын

​@@nifty1940 Thank you for input on the Olympia debacle. Very accurate and point on. Your history with IFBB is very impressive. The individual (Old Skool) that you are debating with is a very disturbed, Arnold psychopath. He spends his whole existence trolling Mike Mentzer and the 1980 Olympia videos. He is not well.

Great informative video as always. Anyway here is my top 6 based upon video and pictures: 1. Boyer Coe 2. Mike Mentzer 3. Chris Dickerson 4. Frank Zane 5. Roger Walker 6. Arnold Scharrzeneggar

@lateralus2199

Жыл бұрын

@@oldskoolbodybuildingroutin7178 Triggered from a psychopathic multiple accounts specialist

Please do the 1981 Olympia!!!

Just like the narrator says, Mike Mentzer prepped for the entire year, along with all the sacrifice to be placed 5th, when he did indeed have the complete package to win outright, no argument...period!! It is a shame that it really did take a mental toll on Mike, and probably a lot of other competitors.

All of our learning or unlearning has led us us from tight midsections to bubble guts

I had heard that Pearl became aware that the judges were going to elevate Arnold in the results as publicity for the upcoming Conan film.

@samkelley6274

Жыл бұрын

I think you hit the nail on the head.

@robitaillecopeland1996

9 ай бұрын

I hEaRd. Sure buddy, from other Mentzer fangirls?

@tektoniks_architects

8 ай бұрын

@@robitaillecopeland1996 No, from written accounts of the show. Internet dickhead.

“I’ll be back” sums it up😅

Awesome video. In spite of Arnold's antics, I probably would have awarded him the winner. However, I wouldn't give Chris second; IMO, that belonged to Coe or Mentzer, and I'd slightly favor Mike. Boyer in third, maybe Zane in fourth. Chris might eek into fifth but Roy and Roger were far more muscular; I'd probably place them ahead of Chris.

Please come back and do the 1981 bodybuilding season.

@TheSpritz0

3 жыл бұрын

I HOPE he is OK, he hasn't posted anything in 7 months now!!!

@AlexanderHernandez-sb7lq

3 жыл бұрын

@@TheSpritz0 and his videos are so good.

Mentzer should have won.

Zane had so many weird freak accidents in his heyday; he was attacked by a dog, he fell off his bicycle, fell into a pool...

Mike Mentzer, The Uncrowned Champion.

Why I can't found Mr Olympia 1980 full on KZread 🙄🙄

When I read this article with my dad, who was into bodybuilding too, he seemed ok with the result. He understood the argument but in the magazine we were reading he looked pretty good...but that's all we had to go on back then and I was only 8 lol

I thought Zane beat Arnold but the winner was Mike.

@theway4660

2 жыл бұрын

I agree man

@neilnolin823

2 жыл бұрын

Zane

I don't know why they keep running with that lie that Arnold had the best body

@lateralus2199

Жыл бұрын

​@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines A fact that it was a crock of shit!

The Mike Mentzer Rabbit Hole continues 😂

These guys looked phenomenal.may not be anywhere near as big as the guys today but most ppl would rather look like them then guys in open today

I thought this was actually the video of the 1980 Mr. Olympia

How often are we going to revisit this? Arnold got the trophy. Period.

Is Retro Muscle secretly preparing for a comeback video?

You can see Arnold hitting Roger walkers elbows in the Total Rebuild documentary. It was pretty rough and aggressive.

@lateralus2199

Жыл бұрын

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Wrong again! You're always wrong. Your whole life is wrong and a warning to everyone. Look at the footage and you'll see that Arnold started it. Nazi boy was always trying to get attention for himself

@robitaillecopeland1996

9 ай бұрын

oh no!!!

GREAT back story work !! All the fans had back in the day were the magazines and their local gym/ and a few words from them about seminars , shows what was happing....good job ay not being biased in anyones favor (😉my opinion..., Mike won the show, but lost the decision)..👍👍👍✌😌

I whole heartedly agree with your assessment. Politics won on the day and bodybuilding as a whole was the loser.

Bill Pearl as a bodybuilder to emulate,he lived a long healthy life,obviously not wrecking his health with steroids and such.

Back in the day of the V shape, thin narrow waist

1980 Mr Olympia: Mike Mentzer None Other

@lateralus2199

Жыл бұрын

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Arnold won a contest looking like shit. That's a fact. Hence this video describing the debacle

@lateralus2199

Жыл бұрын

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines He did? How's is that? Elaborate on that, multiple account boy

@lateralus2199

Жыл бұрын

@Old Skool Bodybuilding Routines Wrong, multiple account, midget boy. Arnold was skinny and deformed. He looked like shit. A gust of wind would hit him and he would fall over

So many of those guys came in top shape BUT Arnold deserved the win. You can’t say Arnold was not in shape !! He was ripped and looked incredible, the only thing that can be said is that he was not quite as big as 75’ but he still had the awesome size and symmetry. It’s about the ‘ total ‘ package and Arnold was the best. I’ve got 2 versions of the show and when Arnold walks on stage he just blows everyone away, I think it’s a case of sour grapes.

@dirkboch128

10 ай бұрын

If you say Arnold was "ripped" you have no clue about bodybuilding.

@kron1379

9 ай бұрын

@@dirkboch128 he was as ‘ ripped ‘ as anyone else there, you can’t look at that contest and say he was smooth, I used to train with a guy that was in Australia at the time training with Roger Walker, he was there when Arnold arrived, he said he looked huge and awesome. I was training at that time and there was no controversy that I saw in the Bodybuilding mags, this is something that has become viral in the last few years with people jumping on the bandwagon.

@dirkboch128

9 ай бұрын

@@kron1379 Look at his glutes, use glasses if needed ;)

@kron1379

9 ай бұрын

@@dirkboch128 his glutes ? Are you saying that was a deciding factor ? If so you have no idea about bodybuilding, also in the 80’s glutes as in pulling the trunks up to show them was not a thing mate

I wasn't aware that Mike Mentzer was narrow !!!??? LMFAO !

I believe this was a perfect storm for Arnold, he was able to take down Zane and destroy HIT training while making Conan, the competition was handed to him as he was going to train twice a day regardless.

21:20 Not everyone was compared?!? Shut the front door!!! 😂 🤣

HELL YEAH!!!!!

Great video! Yeah man Arnold just had enough style to do it right. Nobody likes losing. But like Night of Champions, they are all champs regardless of placing 🙄

tremendous job on this most controversial show-wow!!👍👍

Arnold was 5th at best.

@lateralus2199

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

Wow, I didn't know that about Zane.