Called Carmen the old man here in '74. THE MAN IS STILL WITH US!!! Unbelievable 👍

@MrChristopherHaas

6 ай бұрын

that makes him, what 84 years old? It doesnt surprise me, my understanding is that he has always had a healthy ethic, worked out, took lots of vitamins, etc. Has, along with Don Johnson, been my favorite bowler from when i started watching in 70.

@lanceallington9175

4 ай бұрын

He’s 90 now. Born in 1933.

@MrChristopherHaas

4 ай бұрын

@@lanceallington9175 is he a vet? Thank you,he and Teata Simez were always my favorites, along with Jim Stefanich

@beeemm2578

3 ай бұрын

I wonder what Salvino thinks of these 2 handers? He was never shy about voicing his opinion....lol.

This took place at Edison Lanes, in NJ. On my forum board, someone wrote me about their experience and memories about Edison Lanes. It's very interesting. So please read on: I basically grew up in Edison Lanes. I worked there as a young kid and got paid in free bowling because I was too young to get a SS card. The center started out with 66 lanes and later another 56 were added. The building was 1/8 mile long and the parking lot accommodated over 1000 cars.

@MrChristopherHaas

6 ай бұрын

sounds like a good site for a pba tournament in the 1970s lol

@MikeGrant-zt7uo

4 ай бұрын

Who was the grouchy old janitor who was always trying to keep the kids in line

@MikeGrant-zt7uo

4 ай бұрын

I remember trying to copy the Tom Swales walk

Carmen Salvino is a Legend 👍👍

Kinda gotta wonder how many people were watching this tournament. HBO was in its earliest years. They only had a few thousand subscribers, all of which in one region of Pennsylvania. They were still a couple years removed from their first George Carlin special, still hadn't started broadcasting via satellite, didn't have 24-hour programming. Pretty amazing how far they've come.

@beeemm2578

2 ай бұрын

Yeah I was surprised seeing they were the network for this. Like you said, they've come a LONG way. Grew up watching early 80s horror on HBO

I have started from the top of this website to the bottom of all the tournaments posted. I want to thank mrbowling300 for all the work posting these events. They brought back a lot of great memories from the glory days of PBA bowling on broadcast television and also cable as evidenced by the ESPN and now HBO broadcasts.

This was a historic event in many ways what with "Joey" Berardi and Marshall Holman being on the telecast. Salvino was prophetic in his insights and predictions about them after winning the tournament. Skee Foremsky is(was) a great commentator with his subtle and humorous insights, very knowledgeable to say the least, a great technician of the sport.

@MrChristopherHaas

6 ай бұрын

Skee would have made a perfect guest star on Odd Couple tv show

Thanks Mr Bowling these are great love the late 70s and early 80s, worked at an alley 83-87 they closed was brunswick 32 lanes looked like this house but was blue and white, didnt know how to bowl when I started left with a 190 ave good times.

carmen salvino really is a living legend!!! hell of a bowler and a better person!!!

It was a real pleasure to see this video from 1974. I finally got to see Holman as a very young man. I wasn't aware that HBO ever sponsored a PBA championship. My daily knowledge of bowling history for today.

A lot of people seeing this clip are going to be surprised that HBO stands for "Home Box Office" (most Americans think they're initials that mean nothing) and that HBO actually existed as far back as 1974 (it first went on the air in 1972). Most people think HBO began in the early 1980's.

Thanks, Mr. Bowling -- my favorite decades of the telecasts are the 70's and 80's and I love watching these again. Please keep it up!

Great show ! Thanks for uploading this mrbowling 300 ! Great ending, Carmie being Carmie, and loved his commentary .... a one of a kind bowler and very entertaining .... also very prophetic concerning Marshall and Joey Berardi .... as to Don McCune ... first thing that came to my mind was the "soaker"ball that he made famous .... who knew this would be the forerunner to the reactives we have today !

@beeemm2578

Жыл бұрын

The storyline are a plenty with this video....legends of that present day, and future with Holman and Berardi, Dick Stockton on the call for HBO circa '74! McCunes soaker..just a gem of a video.

Kept score at this tournament, was friends with Danny Whitehurst and his wife Heddy. I was sitting in the next set of lanes talking with Chuck Pizzano, who told me Salvino would win.

@chucklou7216

3 жыл бұрын

Just saw my friend Heddy, sitting with her daughter. High black hair, and glasses next to the woman in purple.😄

Thank you, Mr. Bowling. I relaxed and watched the entire broadcast just like it were live. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that all five bowlers are in the PBA Hall of Fame. Quite a show. Thank you so much for posting this!!!!

My God, look at Joey B. He's so young! Never saw the HBO telecasts, so glad I get to enjoy them now. Thanks, Mr. Bowling. KZread's a better place with you here; I really mean that.

@dcbandnerd

6 жыл бұрын

As does Holman - so strange to see them at this stage of their life. But Salvino was right - they got whipped that day but great things would lie ahead for them. Holman would win the ToC in a couple years and Berardi would win one of his own in another decade. Both of them had tremendous careers.

My family was one of the first to have HBO in our town and I don't remember them televising bowling,wow!!

Thanks Keith! Was always wanting to see Carmen Salvino in this tourney. :D

Carmen Salvino puts a tremendous amount of roll on the ball.

The place really rocked back then. After it closed I went back once and drove around the back of what is now a Shop Rite grocery and several other retail stores, I noticed that the original shell of the building is still intact. They apparently just remodeled and and filled all the spaces.

This is fantastic! TY Mr. Bowling 300!

Best wishes to Dick Stockton on his retirement from sportscasting after a 55 year career!

@crgray1979

2 жыл бұрын

Most famous from his Carlton disk home run in game 6 in 1975 World series

@beeemm2578

Жыл бұрын

Many a memorable call....such a familiar voice.

mr. bowling...you are the best...thanks for posting...i loved it...reliving pba history

@MrChristopherHaas

6 ай бұрын

HERE HERE! SECONDED!

Glad you enjoyed the show! Yes, they are all hall of famers!

People have said that Pete Weber has the most “pure” style of any bowler but I don’t know how that can be when he flails around at the line like his dad. I tend to think there’s a group of three bowlers any of which would qualify for the title: Nelson Burton Jr., Johnny Petraglia and Carmen Salvino. I base that belief on their rock-solid approach and statuesque presence at the line which results in excellent shot repeatability. If people ask me who my favorite bowler is I can’t help but say Earl Anthony-especially after I watched him throw that 156 and comment on how he hates this game. He’s just like us! If somebody were to ask me who they should follow as an example though I would tell them Carmen Salvino and especially Nelson Burton Jr.

The original owners were 2 brothers, Jim And Tom Swales, Tom was the mayor of Edison around 1960, a really nice guy. They also owned Best Block which is where all of the cinder blocks came from and built the outside shell of this immense building.

Very cool. I had no idea HBO had bowling broadcasts back in the day. Thanks for the upload!

It's not TV: It's HBO! I love these old shows. You get to see the bowlers and announcers more down home rather than all this packaged stuff on PBA on Fox that you see now. Those were the days

Berardis first telecast, eh? What an eclectic mix! This is gonna be GOOD

@beeemm2578

2 ай бұрын

Isn't it? Lots of storylines here. A treat for any old timey bowling fan.

Skee Foremsky Year Inducted: 1992 Category: Veterans/Senior Foremsky began on Tour in 1961 and bowled full-time from 1965-76. His peak years were from 1966-70, when he ranked among the top 20 in earnings and accumulated five of his six PBA titles. In 1970 he earned $33,198, which ranked him eighth on the yearly list. That year he won the Wichita Open and finished second to fellow Hall of Famer Dave Davis in the San Jose Open. During his career Foremsky earned $247,073.

I'm 74 from New Jersey and I loved watching the greats back then. It was funny to hear the announcer mention that Don Johnson was taking " pain pills " because of his ring finger problem! That's a little more than I need to know!!😂😂😂

Update on inflation adjusted prize: to find the inflation adjusted equivalent of the prize money for September 2018, multiply the winnings by 5.4. So, Joe Berardi won $10,800 in today's money, Carmen Salvino won $27,000. The best thing about tournaments back then is the minimum money for anyone who cashed was probably $900, worth about $4900 today. That's way better than pro bowling today. Back then, just cashing every week gave you a great living.

@syntonik....such was the demise of a lot of bowling alleys from back then. @thunderfan I was saying the same thing. I had no idea HBO broadcast bowling. Great upload.... 300!

The largest league I remember was 36 teams and the Middlesex County Major League was just to the left of us and had 30 teams, so together they filled up the original 66 lanes. The thing I ember the most was how heavy the cigarette smoke was! When the additional 56 lanes were added I remember that there was a waiting list for lanes every Saturday night.

@wecontrolthevideo

5 жыл бұрын

I bowled in a house with 60 lanes, and our league had 38 teams and the other league had 22 which filled the house! With that large a league you didn’t get a chance to bowl against 6 of the teams. The cigarette smoke was tremendous, standing on lane 1, looking down towards lane 60 through a grey haze!

Bloody hell you can see why HBO didn't hold on to this long, see Don Johnson's shot around the 7:18 mark, the camera man was focused on an entirely different rack! But all in all a great upload as we get to see a young Holman and Berardi.

Amazing show 👍

Soaker indeed! McCune's ball sounds like a cantaloupe when it hits the pins!

@louiscsanko3673

3 жыл бұрын

Doesn't the PBA do a Hardness test on all equipment ?

@leroyhatfield6669

2 жыл бұрын

When I first saw that comment I was like WTH? But then I remembered lol. Remember mostly him and the yellow dot. For the guy with the testing comment. They do now! Lol mostly because of McCune!!

When you said the camera man was focused on an entirely different rack I was expecting to be seeing something in the audience....LOL.

@beeemm2578

2 жыл бұрын

I caught that

I think that Holman kid has a bright future! I can see he developed his edgy attitude progressively over the course of his career. He was actually very gracious here.

@RovingRoy

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, he didn't kick the foul lane light in this telecast!

The first time McCune sticks at the line, it looked like his head was behind his slide foot, which led to a weight transfer to the heel, hence early braking and sticking at the line.

The graphics are really cool and obviously smoking was the thing to do as I noticed the guy with the white sports jacket beside the blonde in the yellow dress lit one up during a game!

Thanks, mrbowling300. I did not know that HBO ever had the PBA. I also didn't know that Dick Stockton ever announced on PBA broadcasts. Does anyone know why HBO used the camera shot they did? Instead of showing the ball go down the lane, the bowler releases the ball, and there's a close-up of the ball hitting the pins.

@Jason_Maier

7 жыл бұрын

How many years did HBO broadcast the PBA tour?

When it came to bowling telecasts,ABC was the king!

@rockvilleraven

2 жыл бұрын

Chris and Bo

@vikings844

2 жыл бұрын

@@rockvilleraven Great memories listening to those two! Chris was the GOAT!

@rockvilleraven

2 жыл бұрын

@@vikings844 Second best was.when NBC covered part of the PBA tour with Jay Randoph and Earl Anthony as the Analyst

I wonder how many people had HBO in 74

Gone! It's been gone for many years

The same Dick Stockton who would call the 1975 World Series for NBC!!!

@barbaradarnell7376

3 жыл бұрын

HOME RUN!

@hockeynut9909

2 жыл бұрын

He was the Red Sox announcer at the time. NBC also had Marty Brennanman from Reds also call that great World Series.

Just looking at that Marshall kid you can tell we wouldn't hear much from him again.

Interesting to note the physical similarity of Don McCune's game to Tommy Hudson's a few years later. May be my imagination.

Camera man on the wrong lanes! Omg things were bad back in the day!!

The HBO bowling shows are more personable than the ABC telecasts, though both are good.

@larchmontmark1

Жыл бұрын

Dunno about that!!! This was great, but to me, you totally can't beat Chris Schenkel and Nelson Burton!

3 years before HBO debut inside the nfl

Don McCune held 8 PBA titles during the time of this tournament. How many of those titles were legitimate?

@roberta-ls9lr

4 жыл бұрын

Not a fan of McCune. Did dorky gyrations after a strike. Didn't have the talent of any of the others on the telecast. But had a soaker.

The plastic ball era!

Earl Anthony was the best ever bowler of the world. do you agree????

@erikknudson3077

7 жыл бұрын

wrw

@3443bh

6 жыл бұрын

Absolutely!

@20alphabet

6 жыл бұрын

He was the top of the heap among the elites. However, Barry Asher would hold that title if you asked the top pros back then. Carmen Salvino once stated that had Barry Asher not developed the starting problem he would've been in the #1 spot instead of Earl Anthony.

@charlesgoodman5086

5 жыл бұрын

I met Earl Anthony at the Denver Open in 1981 at Celebrity Sports Center and got his autograph. He has always been one of my favorite pros, one of the best.

@hockeynut9909

2 жыл бұрын

Earl was the best, all class and sportsmanship. All these drama queens that bowl today ruin it for me.

At 1:40 Dick says they will be bowling on 14 and 15. That's not a pair of lanes, all pairs start with an odd number on left side.

@joeambrose3260

3 жыл бұрын

Maybe they were superstitious and didn't have a #13 ?

can anyone tell me about the previous week they were talking about wherein Burton came from way back to beat Anthony? I want to see what happened VERY badly

is this bowling alley still open today?

@joeambrose3260

3 жыл бұрын

Supermarket

Carmen Salvino was 17-9 lifetime in championship matches. Don McCune, 8-8. Don Johnson, 26-17. Marshall Holman, 22-31. Joe Berardi, 10-6. Looking at mccune’s record, it doesn’t really scream “hall of famer.” Add in the fact that he had an advantage in many of his wins, well, what were the decision makers thinking.

I wonder if vic wound up in carmen's trunk after all ..😅

Did Edison lanes become Carolier? Or were they two different lanes?

@mrbowling300

3 жыл бұрын

2 different places

@chucklou7216

3 жыл бұрын

Torn down, so was mid-state bowl and Caroline’s no longer exists, I believe

@josephpapai5867

3 жыл бұрын

I live in the area, so I am familiar with both places. Edison Lanes closed in 1986. It is now a shopping center with a Shop Rite as anchor store, along with other stores and businesses on the property. Carolier Lanes, which hosted the Johnny Petraglia Open for a decade beginning in the early 1990's as well as several U.S. Open tournaments and other large events, was acquired by Bowlero a few years ago and is a part of the Bowlero chain. That establishment has 82 Lanes. It is divided into two distinct "houses": Upstairs Lanes 1-48 and Downstairs Lanes 49-82 (added on after the original building was constructed). Totally different lanes, like having two bowling alleys under one roof. Bowlero redid the upstairs similar in appearance to their other locations. Slick, modern décor and amenities. The downstairs looks like a traditional bowling center. The thing is that these two mammoth bowling complexes were only ten minutes apart on Route 1. So you had almost 200 bowling lanes (194 to be exact) within a very close proximity of each other! Those days are long gone, unfortunately.

@josephpapai5867

3 жыл бұрын

@@chucklou7216 As per my other post: Edison Lanes closed in 1986 and is now a shopping center anchored by Shop Rite and other stores. Mid State Bowl in East Brunswick closed in 2007 and was converted into a gym owned by a large corporation. Carolier Lanes in North Brunswick never closed and is now part of the Bowlero chain.

@chucklou7216

3 жыл бұрын

@@josephpapai5867 didn’t know carolier lanes, thanks for the info

Look how young Dick Stockton is in 1974.

Rolling on lanes 14 and 15.lol old school buda

McCune hooking a White Dot with the pin above the fingers ... that ball was definitely doctored ... probably acetone.

@douglasharris5216

3 жыл бұрын

DC Sports Nope. It wasn't acetone. He used Methyl Ethyl Ketone. if he used acetone, he would have dissolved the ball.

@dcsports7243

3 жыл бұрын

@@douglasharris5216 Acetone doesn't dissolve polyester. I'm not sure from where you got that. rfelektronik.se/manuals/Datasheets/solventguide.pdf

@douglasharris5216

3 жыл бұрын

DC Sports I did a search on mccune and his antics to see what he used to soften his equipment

@dcsports7243

3 жыл бұрын

@@douglasharris5216 I believe he used MEK since that was well before the VOC restrictions came into effect. But I personally used acetone and it never dissolved a polyester bowling ball. I never tried it on urethane because alcohol worked perfectly well on urethane.

Joey Berardi 👍👍

Don RIP Pauline RIP [sister]

EDISON LANES WAS THE LARGEST BOWLING ALLEY IN THE U.S.A. 106 LANES AT THAT TIME, ONLY TO BE TOPPED BY SHOWBOAT LANES IN VEGAS LATER ON WITH 110 LANES!!!

The early days of HBO. Still working out the kinks.

27:34 JERSEY SQUASHER!!!

How in the world did you manage to get something from this early in HBO's history? It wouldn't even broadcast by satellite for another year, for crying out loud. Was it even seen nationwide at this point? Their sports coverage was rough to say the least. The camera actually pointed to the wrong lane at one point. (Sorry--failed to notice that someone already made note of it).

Berardi and Holman? Age 19? Still looking for their first wins? Wow!

Where did HBO Sports get these cameramen did not even taking note of the shots or anything like that

When the players found out about the soakers, almost every motel bathtub had chemicals and caused a problem with the players and the motels.

did Mr. Salvino, Holman, Berardi all buy their belt and britches from the same pro shop? good grief, identical

@tonyvincent9753

6 ай бұрын

Haband

@MrChristopherHaas

6 ай бұрын

@@tonyvincent9753 is that the brand? were they sponsoring, free belts and britches for top 5…or more?

columbia yellow dot!!

Yeah sorry to get your hopes up, even if it was so, women covered up properly in those days.

Carmie was the best!

@mrbowling300 i have a request for an upload.

1:17:02 look at that replay glitch..lol

Really fun to watch. Only complaint is the player interviews between games kind of bogs things down a bit.

"Don's hand was hurting so bad he got a bottle of percocets from the doctor and is high af right now as we saw him crush up and snort 5 of em so he could bowl the finals".....:translation 😀

holman when he had hair

@sludge4125

4 жыл бұрын

The Bald Ego.

STEVE MIZERAK HUNG OUT AT EDISON LANES & HUSTLED POOL THERE!! I REMEMBER MEETING HIM WITH MY FRIEND IN 1976!!

The leisure suit was a dark period in men's fashion it's a wonder anyone reproduced in the 70's with men looking so damn goofy.

Don McCune's son Eugene has a similar style as his dad, except he throws it faster than anyone in P.B.A.history. Eugene can Fire a Bowling Ball, as if it were a softball!!!!

@MIKIEEYEZ1975

9 ай бұрын

AND IT SHOWED!! HE SUCKED!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡💩💩💩😎

McClune @ 47:04?lol again.os buda

@larchmontmark1

Жыл бұрын

So, it wasn't just my ears....he really did say "L" there.... :)

Dick Stockton!

Earliest footage from HBO you can find.

@MIKIEEYEZ1975

9 ай бұрын

NO!! I have the first 10 shows EVER ON HBO!! I am the HBO KING!!

Love the video, but check out the clothes. Almost makes me embarrassed to admit I was alive and wearing things like that. :)

On the contrary, this man's only claim to fame (more like infamy) was his success in gaining an unfair advantage over his PBA brethren, becoming the Father of the Soaker. If you knew YOUR history of bowling you would've known that already.

@sludge4125

4 жыл бұрын

And he’s a hall of famer? With 8 tainted victories? What were they thinking?

Commentators: Dick Stockton & Steve Furetski

@MIKIEEYEZ1975

9 ай бұрын

SKEE FORENSKY YOU DOUCHE BAG!! 😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡💩💩💩

You are kidding me right! This production was terrible! The producer should have been fired.

when hbo was actually better

It’s a shame my boy Richie “The Horn” Hornreich didn’t go out on tour! He was the Greatest Action Bowler of ALL TIME!! He would have obliterated the Competition!! He was the BEST ACTION BOWLER WHEN HE WAS 15-16 years of age!! HE COULD GO IN ANY HOUSE and AVERAGE 200 with either hand using a HOUSE BALL!! That’s GREATNESS PERSONIFIED!!

@larchmontmark1

Жыл бұрын

Yes -- and didn't Berardi do some "Action" too? BTW, I think Hornreich did do 1 PBA tournament (just 1), didn't do too well and that was it.... not sure that's all correct, maybe someone can tell us....

@dnx112

Жыл бұрын

Shoulda, coulda, woulda there are millions of those.

@MIKIEEYEZ1975

9 ай бұрын

@@larchmontmark1NO, HORN NEVER ENTERED A PBA TOURNEY.. HE JUST MADE A LOT OF 💰💰💰 LOCALLY!!

@MIKIEEYEZ1975

9 ай бұрын

@@dnx112YEA BUT THERE WAS ONLY ONE HORN!! HE WAS THE BEST!!

@larchmontmark1

9 ай бұрын

@@MIKIEEYEZ1975 I don't know, but there's some stuff that says otherwise. Like, a thing by Johnny Petraglia (easily found online) saying that Hornreich did 3 weeks on the tour.