To those wondering what happened to Ernest and his son Frank. Ernest Frank Turner was born 12th December 1878 in Thelnetham and died Oct 1975, aged 96. His son Eric 'Frank' Turner was born 12 Jan 1907 in Sudbury and died Sep 1993, aged 86. Ernest was married to Annie Lucy Ellis but she died in 1954.

@JTManuel

21 күн бұрын

No heirs?

Here in 2024 we’re watching both a 117 year old and a 146 year old. KZread is the closest thing we have to a Time Machine.

@daviddixey

5 ай бұрын

So true. I love watching old archive clips on here. Fascinating that for a brief moment these old folk are brought back to life. They could never have imagined that 50 years later people would be watching them on a handheld device!!

@skyrocketautomotive

5 ай бұрын

Agreed, this is what happens when KZread's powers are used for good. What a beautiful bit of history

Also… that cheque for £350 is the equivalent of £5,908.55 now.

@mattcorby

Жыл бұрын

"Thanks for making our shareholders and directors billionaires over the last 10 years. Here's £6000..well done" 😢

@fidelcatsro6948

Жыл бұрын

wow thats a lot of money! how much was a new beetle back then?

@sevenwatson5854

Жыл бұрын

@mainframe

@swanvictor887

Жыл бұрын

@@fidelcatsro6948 about 700 quid I think.

@fidelcatsro6948

Жыл бұрын

@@swanvictor887 Wow so he got paid half the amount of a beetle back then 🤔

"I've had enough." Legend.

One of the most refreshing things in life, is when you see two old guys and one of them is the other one's father.

Rumour has it to this day his dad is still working in the factory.

@TeamCGS2005

Жыл бұрын

Just pictured him still working there even though they don't have a VW depot in Ramsgate any more 😂

@NTRSN-Archive

Жыл бұрын

😂

@SZPWS1777

Жыл бұрын

Dad's 144 years old now, and 'junior' is 117, still bringing dad to the Volkswagen plant every morning.

@campbellgraham1979

Жыл бұрын

@@SZPWS1777 Junior 😂🤣😂

@SZPWS1777

Жыл бұрын

@@campbellgraham1979 🤓

So he was 10 years old when Jack the Ripper was doing his thing! Amazing!

@fidelcatsro6948

Жыл бұрын

he probably saw Jack the ripper buying a newspaper at the corner shop to see what they wrote, the day after each murder

@wolfblitzer1981

Жыл бұрын

He maybe was jack the ripper 😂

@Sinnerboy88

Жыл бұрын

Honestly that was my first thought too. I was surprised when I scrolled down and saw it was the third comment. Strange how we use the Whitechapel murders as a measure of time and how well known they are in today's world. It's mind boggling to think he was alive and already in work at that time.. it seems like 1888 was so far back in history.

That alarm clock must wake the entire street 🤣🤣🤣

Some man! Ciggies, eggs and bacon for breakfast at 93! 😂

@dronespace

Жыл бұрын

Legend

@annother3350

Жыл бұрын

Breakfast of Champions

@DTM93

5 ай бұрын

Crazy how some people can smoke like a chimney eat fatty foods and barely exercise yet live to 80-90+

@daviddixey

5 ай бұрын

Probably died the day after filming!!

@flopunkt3665

5 ай бұрын

​@@DTM93it's called statistics ;)

Honestly when you see these films in 2024 those times seem much much before 50 yrs. How far have we come in the last 50 yrs is amazing.

The Volkswagen Beetle looks to have made its way to the scrapyard in 1985, I wonder how long the father and son went on for? They certainly seem to be a couple of characters.

@dbvideos6871

Жыл бұрын

Looks like Ernest "Pop" Turner died towards the end of 1975.

@alerojas2952

5 ай бұрын

its*****

Fife Robertson. Wonderful voice.

@StevieZero

6 ай бұрын

Fyfe

Well the son was born in 1907 both were amazing

About 34 years old when the Titanic went down, watching him in 2024, my mind can't comprehend it

A man at my workplace had over 50 years of seniority and his son was a retiree.

his mind is perfectly sober

@fidelcatsro6948

Жыл бұрын

good old days before fake carbs and gmo foods

I was born in 1972. You dont need to go back that many generations to get back to the Victorian era. Crazy.

@wobblybobengland

6 ай бұрын

Great year it was

@Londonfogey

5 ай бұрын

Agreed, I was born in '71 and it seems amazing now that as a boy I knew men who had fought in the First World War.

@laa4438

4 ай бұрын

My female line were all in their 40s , so my great great grandmother was born around the 1820s

Can’t beat auld Fyfe. So many people need a reason to get out of bed. Unless you’re wealthy and lucky enough to have your life partner still around, retirement is.. potentially.. the end. 93 in 1972 (the year I was born) so he was born in 1878 😮 he was 23 when Queen Victoria died…. Likely too old to fight in WW1, at least too old for the trenches. Amazing.

@kawaiilotus

Жыл бұрын

He was a solder, they said in in the clip, he would have been in his mid 30's when the war started so plenty young.

@jdm65

Жыл бұрын

Fyfe without deerstalker, no less.

@Sinnerboy88

Жыл бұрын

Maybe you missed it but it said he was a WWI soldier. Back in WWI and WWII it was totally different to today. They didn't discriminate as much in age. Nowadays, when it comes to the military, a man is often considered an old man or past it by the time they hit late 20s. They wouldn't even be considered for duty. But back then soldiers were often much older.. due to different attitudes and indeed shortage. Sometimes the average age of soldiers was literally 30s.. you even had middle aged men in their 40s and possibly even elderly men in their 50s going off to fight as infantry in the world wars.. so him being late 30s would not have been out of the ordinary at all. The sitcom Dad's Army was even inspired by older soldiers. While many were for reserves or home guard.. the reality was towards the latter part of the wars, there were much older men going to fight.

The good old days when a 65 year old looked 95

That kitchen where Frank was making breakfast took me straight back to my childhood & my Grandad had a very similar mentality to "Pop" He didn't stay in the workplace into his 90's but he certainly carried on "working" in the house, in the garden, walking every day. He never stopped & outlived a lot of men around him at the time. Keeping busy is a great way to keep going. Great video.

What a wonderful snapshot of life in the past. I was 9 years old when this was first broadcast and there are bits of their life together, such as the kitchen and its contents which are very familiar to me. A lovely video.

@spidyman8853

6 ай бұрын

and those supa taps though

The BBC should do a new series where they catch up with the descendants of those people they interviewed in the 1960's and 1970's

@WetLettuce-kc2qm

Жыл бұрын

They're far too busy brainwashing the population with their woke agenda and hating the white indigenous people to do that.

@StevieZero

6 ай бұрын

They're too busy being woke and filling people's heads full of crap

@daviddixey

5 ай бұрын

Brilliant idea. I've often thought the same. Would be fascinating to see how many are still remembered. It is a format for a BBC4 programme. Someone should suggest it!! Some of these old folk were born in the 1870s; might have aged grandchildren who remember.

@shaunigothictv1003

5 ай бұрын

@@daviddixey Exactly mate. Its most trash on daytime Freeview hers in the U.K but certain channels do play classic some British sitcoms from the 1960's and 1970's. As the idea of having a follow up documentary on the surviving living descendants of people interviewed in the 60, 70s and 80s here in Britain (prior to mass immigration) I certainly think it's a great idea.

@Hascienda27

5 ай бұрын

Spend their times walking round graveyards

Really well shot, lots of interesting camera angles too, much more dynamic than you would expect.

1:29 that radio station sounded so soothing

Old Pop can probably credit his long life and mental sharpness to working. Sitting around and doing nothing can easily speed up a persons decline. He is an inspiration all later

Very wholesome to see the father and son duo.

From the deaths record: Ernest Frank Turner, born 12 December 1878, died December 1975 (To be 93 in 1972 his year of birth would need to be 1878 or 1879. Based on this, there's two Ernest Turners of the correct age who passed after 1972. One died in Barnet, and one in Thanet. Thanet is close to Ramsgate, so it's a safe assumption that it is this Ernest Turner)

@gilactico

5 ай бұрын

Good research 👍

@postscript67

5 ай бұрын

I found a Facebook comment by someone who worked at VW at the time confirming "Pop" died in November 1975. Presumably the death was registered in December. I wonder if his son lived to a similar old age.

Such life loving people are born in centuries and they have made themselves for using their bodies and minds and not throwing them to disuse

An absolutely amazing man Don’t make tough hard working men like him any more

I wonder how old "Old Pops" got to?

Beautiful piece of filmmaking; the photography reminded me of John Alcott's work on 'A Clockwork Orange'.

@swanvictor887

Жыл бұрын

so different from the BBC today. To be a 'modern' cameraman, you must have a degree, obtained by writing a 50-thousand word thesis on how a TV camera works. You don't actually need to know how to use the bloody thing mind you, daft things like exposure and focus, you know, all that 'old-fashioned; nonsense we had to learn in the 'old days' when we knew what the hell we were doing! There are days when I watch BBC News reports and I cringe at the level of 'expertise' in the shots broadcast. I'm guessing the BBC's mantra of 'Inclusivity and Diversity' extends to hiring Blind Camera Operators....

It's a peculiar thing. Tiredness only grips us fully when we stop for a rest. My grandfather retired at 85 years of age. It is only then that he has slowed somewhat. I used to work split shifts in restaurants, routinely stretching to 12 hours. Sitting down was the mistake of a rookie. That was when fatigue would overtake you. 93 though . . . What a person.

@fidelcatsro6948

Жыл бұрын

how old are you?

@davidaston5773

Жыл бұрын

It's very interesting to point out that the Father and Son grew up in an age when there wasn't any TV or obsession with health. And yet, there they were working when most of today's generation would find it impossible? So, the old fashioned ways are the best?

@Eleutherarch

Жыл бұрын

@@fidelcatsro6948 Interesting response. What prompted you to ask?

@Eleutherarch

Жыл бұрын

@@davidaston5773 I think the best ways are unchanging, stretching back to antiquity. I think there is a middle ground to be had between idleness and so adhered to toiling as to never glance up at the stars. I do think that the grotesque convenience of the day has coopted us. Older generations never had to contend with the addictiveness of various internet platforms.

@davidaston5773

Жыл бұрын

​@@Eleutherarch So, true and correct. My sweet gentle late Mama said "In moderation". And, I've come to realise it is spot on in so many ways when it comes to life. She was still working in her early 70s. "grotesque convenience" has undone a rigid discipline and 'just get it done' attitude which is the key to success in any era. It is NO CO INCIDENCE, on KZread there's several people 60 to 90s, who work out and are far more healthier than people half their age? JUST like the two gentlemen in this video from 1972. The idea we should slow down past 60, IS actually, the very thing killing OAPs because their routine doing the opposite of the 72 gents. Our society has been purposely changed to make us weak, dependant on our fascist governments and with little control over our lives. When the truth is? We can have COMPLETE control over ourselves and lives by being like my Mama or the Father and Son in the video. Thank you for your great reply and goodnight, David

Great to see Fyfe Robertson up at the crack of dawn to do the interview.

Love these videos Memories Proper England back then People spoken well always So much respect Purpose of living Value for money

What a hero

His mates are still in the pub waiting for him to get a round in 😂

I should build a time machine to go back in time and buy all those beetles and sell them today as classic cars for a good profit 🐱👍🏿

They didn't include Ancient GrandPops in this - Frank Turner's grandfather, who was 112 years old. He couldn't get the day off work for the filming.

Hope he's still alive seems like a nice guy.

@diggintheblueswithaparrot1329

19 күн бұрын

he is, it's his 145th birthday in august

Born a year after Rorkes Drift. I was born 1972!

This is quite worrying. Seems pretty clear that his father simply didn't have much else to fill the days with.

@Azureecosse

6 ай бұрын

no I think you are wrong there my father worked well past retirement he had lots of hobbies , his father retired early and died before he reached 70 years of age because he sat around the house and slept late and was not active My father did not want to go the same way as his father, my dad died in 2018 he was 96 when he was not working he made furniture in his Garage in the garden and gave it to local charities to sell for funds, some people don't want to stop working because they see it as the quickest route to death, dad was still making Furniture and tending to his garden three days before he died. My mum is in her 80s she was forced to retire in 2004 as a nurse she did not want to retire either she would still be doing it , thankfully the laws changed to allow people to work past state retirement age if they want.

@Londonfogey

5 ай бұрын

I think working class people of that generation didn't really think in terms of hobbies and leisure time as we do. They spent most of their time working and most of their money went on food, rent and clothes. There wasn't much time or money left over for anything else, so their spare time was spent doing one sort of work or another - growing food, mending things etc. That's probably why this gentleman wanted to stay active.

Slightly off topic but my girlfriend's, I will quantify that by adding she is over 60..., dad lived to be 96 and her mum lived to be 94 and they were married for 72 years. Her dad served as a crew member on a landing craft on D-day and went on to be a fireman after the war, they were made differently those days.

Me working 6 months hauling Air Freight. feels like iv been here for ages.

Lovely story 😊

apparently lived until 1975, just enough to see the mk1 Golf.

Looks like the VW Beetle (WKL 576J) lasted until about 1985.

to be fair, he did pack in the Rugby when he was 76....!

I’m 75 and been retired for 2 years and hate it and want to go back to work but they won’t have me back because I’m too old

@OffGridInvestor

5 ай бұрын

You could likely get some cash in hand job for 4 or 5 hours a day

@duckman5642

4 ай бұрын

I'll take you on, any good on a shovel?

@davids8449

2 ай бұрын

I am 70 with Arthritis in hip and back with a large Garden orchard , 200 year old yew tree any chance you coming to work here . Brother is older then me with 300 farm could do with help as well

@davids8449

2 ай бұрын

@@algrant5293 I have just asked him plenty of work here in Wales

6:30 am is not early. For people who wake up at 3am to go to work at 4am

@chanceDdog2009

3 ай бұрын

1:07

I can't get over how knitted that bosses wig looked, and the new blue volkeswaggon with a dent in the back, surely that's hasn't been quality checked.

Awesome blokes. Tough as old boots.

wow- amazing, his dad has the willpower and the passion to work while his son has had enough and wants to enoy his retirement. Fare cop

OLD POP REMINDS ME OF JIM TROTT IN THE VICAR OF DIBLEY BLESS HIM

1:24 that was better acting than Lizzo in Star wars!!! 😁

£350 even today with the cost of living crisis is a lot, but goodness knows how much it would be in today's money.

@blitzroehre1807

Жыл бұрын

About 5000

@WetLettuce-kc2qm

Жыл бұрын

@@blitzroehre1807 £3867 according to the Bank of England inflation calculator.

Born December 1878 that 93 year old was four years younger than Sir Winston Churchill.

This man is a legend. All of us lazy buggers in 2023 could learn something from him. Those who think they have it hard in 2023 should be made to watch this! Stoker, soldier, gawd blimey! Our lives are far simpler - no doubt.

BBC is the greatest television on the planet, has been and will be, wish you all the best in 24!

@THEOLDMOVIESHACK

5 ай бұрын

It was great back then .....not so sure now tbh

@ipunkhc

5 ай бұрын

Belive me it still is, i'm a cameraman on Croatian television, most of the importetd program is made by BBC, as a kid loved Doctor who, Only fools and horses and wildlife documentarys , (sorry for the writing mistakes)

@Londonfogey

5 ай бұрын

Sorry but the BBC has sunk very low now. They don't seem to make this kind of thing anymore, ie, objective assessments of people and situations. Everything now seems to be viewed through an ideological lens. Of course, there has always been bias of one sort or other, but it seems much more obvious nowadays.

So Pop was born about 1879?

Hard work live forever that’s what I’m doing

They both have a rest now.

Frank is 65 and still lives at home?

@elgee6202

6 ай бұрын

Very common for bachelors back in the day and it still is in many cultures. The purpose of moving out into your own home was to start your own family. If you didn't get married there was no point in moving out. It was a more family-orientated era. As we see here, it enabled the old dad to be taken care of in his own home by his son. My great-grandfather's brother, one of eleven, inherited his parents' house, which he was born in and had always lived in, in his 40s presumably because he was the only one unmarried. He ended up having children in his 50s and died in the house aged 88, having changed absolutely nothing of the interiors and saving up a small fortune for a coal miner. He bequeathed the house to his own son and it was lived in by that son's daughter and her baby. The humble terraced house ended up being home to five generations of my family over the period of around 100 years. In Asian families today it is the responsibility of the eldest child to house the parents when they are elderly, leading to multi-generational homes. I think it is wonderful and it's how Britons also were in living memory before the age of individualism took hold. Back then it was a case of staying at home and saving up until you needed to leave; now it's leave as soon as possible in early adulthood to "have your own space".

"old pop" was 10 when jack the ripper was active. does old pop have an alibi?

I missread it at first

0:51 £350 in today's money is £3867 according to the Bank of England inflation calculator.

@lesweizman388

6 ай бұрын

still crap for a retirement gift

@WetLettuce-kc2qm

6 ай бұрын

@@lesweizman388You sound like a spoilt brat.

i think retirement turns out to be bad for many folk. it ages them. seen plenty of older folk working and they look great! compare that with your average retiree, doing bugger all. downhill fast.

Typical work-shy youngster retires at 65.

This dudes making us all look bad !!!

@halfabeet

Жыл бұрын

No way, 93 years old and nothing to do but work for other people out of ingrained habit, count me out

@ajs41

Жыл бұрын

Today's workshy youngsters would probably regard this bloke as "brainwashed" into believing that hard work was a good idea. Actually, he's right and they're wrong, in my opinion.

@northernsnow6982

Жыл бұрын

​@@halfabeet I suppose you didn't bother to get an education either? I mean, why would you want to follow other peoples habits, of going to school? Good luck making it to 93, and being anywhere near as healthy as this guy. That's with you having access to better medical treatment. Unfortunately for you, no amount of medical treatment makes up for the way hard work helps your health. I imagine this old guy, had no time to think about silly things, that stress people out today either, making him healthier both mentally and physically. Plus, you'll be lucky to have a government retirement fund, by the time you retire. So have fun working so hard at a young age, that you have enough saved up to retire. Remember inflation when you're saving, so you have enough money as the years pass. Most of all, good luck surviving if society ever wavers, let alone falls.

@halfabeet

Жыл бұрын

@@northernsnow6982 Boy you were triggered bad there huh

@northernsnow6982

Жыл бұрын

@@halfabeet triggered? Nope. Just trying to open your eyes. You don't want to see, you can stay blind. Enjoy old age.

I feel embarrassed 🤦🏻‍♂️

This is Zoomer ammunition

6:45 isn't early. I get up at 5:30 😂

Three hundred and fifty Pounds Sterling for ten years service...? Rather you than me, Gunga Din. (as my once Brit neighbor used to say without any explanation as to why!)

He wanted a gold watch to go with that cheque.

In the meantime, French people going on strike as retirement age moves to 64.

Looking at a man in colour born in 1878 is mad in its self

Hard work has done me harm.... I need a new bloody hip

What an awful alarm clock

Got no hobbies lol

@heraldeventsandfilms5970

Жыл бұрын

What a pathetic comment.

@heraldeventsandfilms5970

Жыл бұрын

@@ronin8926 Thank you. The oaf with their 'lol' signifies a participant in the Age of the Idiot.

@Londonfogey

5 ай бұрын

Hobbies are a relative recent concept for working class people. Before the 1920s or so they just didn't have the time/money for them.

The way things are going the RETIREMENT age will be 95 soon ..... where does all our tax and contributions go ?.....

I see so many far right people in this video

I'm sending this video to France president Macron to show him that the brits don't complain about retirement age like us froggies. 😛

Did our frank never marry ?

@Londonfogey

5 ай бұрын

Maybe he tried to bring a 'bird' home, but his old dad kept showing him up like Albert Steptoe?