GP, really informative series. Thank you for putting out a great video.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Erick! All the best!

Hands down best series on KZread demonstrating B series capabilities - very helpful for the buying process!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Wow, thanks! All the best to you - thanks so much for your comment! Cheers!

Box blade, rough work. Land plane, finish work. The box blade makes little hills that you can't see in daylight. Only at night, with a truck, with high beams on, you can see the tiny ruts and hills it makes. It doesn't drop it as nicely, it gets hooked, or big rocks, or bumps make it drop things in a ripple affect. Best is box blade, then land plane and the drive will be darn near level.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks ROFL! Some great info for me and others. Thanks again and all the best! Good stuff to know. Cheers!

Thank you for sharing, great explanation, you are a great teacher 👍👍👍👍

Great comparison video, GP! Thanks for taking the time to make the post. Production quality is always terrific!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much Larry! Hope you are getting some good tractor time in on your property. Cheers!

Simply the best channel Ive seen on KZread. Awesome content and a very relaxing atmosphere. Many blessings to you and yours.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning and thanks very much for the kind words Lewis! I am happy you are enjoying it. Have a great week and all the best!

GP, appreciate the comparison with the specific task. Another informative video for us new tractor owners..thank you sir!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

You're most welcome B2B. Sorry it took so long to get out - a lot of folks were asking but I needed to find somewhere with the right conditions so was happy I was able to do that road. All the best !

Great vid! Thanks for posting.

Thank you for saving me the money on a land plane for now. I'll continue with the box blade until I feel the need for the other. As always, great camera angles, great instructional vid.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mike! Happy it was helpful for you. Cheers!

Boxblade for first fase then plane to finish with... 2 great tools...

Well done! Excellent comparison. Great video. Thank you.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chuck!

I was up in the air on which to buy thanks for the video.. you reiterated what I thought.

All good information, thank you. Always enjoy your video content 🙂

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Edward! Cheers!

A very good demonstration GP. Ive never used a land plane but i can definitely see their usefulness. What an awesome job you did on that road and i totally agree with everything you said. Thanks GP. Another good review.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good evening and thanks Dean! Happy it was enjoyable. I enjoyed doing it - it provided a good comparison of the two for me and for others, I think. Hope all is well. Cheers!

Great video. Good commentary, no loud background noise or so-called music, just a good quality video. I certainly learned something and I don't even own or have need of a tractor. Well done, sir. Well done.👍👍 Thank you.

@GPOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks very kindly - have a great week!

Great workout for both.....thanks! 👏👍🤠

This just confirms what I often tell people about implements. There are good reasons there are many different implements! There are different job needs that are best preformed by different types of implements. I do not own a plane, but it would be a great implement to regularly maintain the driveway/road. Now you need to go back with your regular blade to make a ditch and form a crown on that road. Great set of videos showing both working.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Coy! So true. I spoke to the good folks there about that. So we'll see. I think they need a lot of truckloads of gravel too. Thanks again and all the best!

Agree 100%. If I could have only one - it would be the box blade. I've done some major excavation and road building with the box blade, and use it to maintain my driveway as well.

I have to say, I've become a fan of this channel: thorough explanations, excellent camera angles showing the important details, and overall high production quality for an amateur video. I just upgraded my BX23S to a B2301 with a backhoe, rear-mounted snowblower, and box blade. I also have a front Quick-Tach blade and a brush hog. So these videos are perfect for what I'm using. Thanks!

@GPOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Good morning and thanks GL! Congrats on the new tractor too! I appreciate the comment this morning - Take good care!

Good evening GP, great job on the comparison of the box blade and the land plane. Your explanation for both was covered really well, and a good honest opinion from you nailed it ! Now you know the ones with just a plow push or pole have their opinion too which is another great attachment that has it’s very own purposes. I would have to agree with you on both accounts. Keep up the good work and and videos. We look forward to them. Thanks for sharing with us.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks ODD! I was happy to find a good old surface to try them both out on. Hope all is going great and you are staying cool down there. Cheers!

Consistently top caliber video qualify and educated informed content. Raw honest product truth and evaluation with real world experience. Great job as usual sir. Cheers.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks very much Hughie! I am happy you enjoy them. All the best!

Great video!

GP, greetings! Thank you, I’ve learned to adjust the linkage on the attachments from watching your videos!. Cheers

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good stuff Tom! Happy they are helpful. Have a great week!

Very well presented, loved the initial greeting like we’d just snuck up on you. Brutal demo but you persevered to a conclusion which was really useful. Definitely the box blade for most applications for me. Many thanks 👍

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good evening and thanks Blue! Happy you enjoyed it overall. I like my box blade a lot. Great for so many things. Still lots to learn but I'm getting a little better with time. Take care and have a great week!

@bluesix2843

4 жыл бұрын

GP Outdoors -Likewise 👍 🚜

I maintain a roadway of approximately 2500 ft with several families that use it. I have a35 hp MF hydrostat tractor with a 6 ft box blade. I also have a hydraulic top link which makes adjusting the digging or grading function a llot easier to use. I just wish I had installed that peice of equipment years ago. Great video. Answered my questions about a land plane. Thank you

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good stuff Frank. A few folks have suggested putting in a hydraulic top link. Good to hear the feedback on it. Have a good week out there and thanks for the comment!

Thanks, great comparison video!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Dave!

I had the land plane and figured out it works great only once the blades are full , so I was way more aggressive with the scarafiers for a first pass to loosen it up by angleing the back in the air so the blades don't even try to start working just the digging tines dig 3-4 inches deep. It worked wonderfull pushing snow for me up here in canada surprisingly aswell. Good video comparison .

Awesome! Loved the videos and you confirmed my choice of getting a box blade when I could only get one.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris! Happy it was helpful. Cheers!

@swampwhiteoak1

4 жыл бұрын

Learn the box blade and you will not need the plane.

Excellent video, always enjoy my Canadian friends!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers!

Great video. I actually get better results with my land plane the way my driveway was built. My driveway is 2,000’ long and it is mostly large base rock with very little topping material. If I run my scarifires, I dig up base rock. I have to stay shallow so I use my land plane for most of it.

Nice video GP get lots of good ideas watching them cheers

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

That's great John. I am happy if they were helpful. Have a great weekend!

Box blade hands down. Great series ty for sharing

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Shaun!

You have been paid in full for your hands on learning! There just isn't any implement out there as good as the box when it comes to that kind of work. The more you use it the more uses you'll find and the better you'll get with it and your tractor. Good Job!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

You bet Rick! I learn a little more each time - It takes a while to get really good at it I think, but I'm getting a little better each time. Surprising that such a simply constructed box can be so practical and effective. Thanks and all the best!

@swampwhiteoak1

4 жыл бұрын

Finally the voice of reason! Time, experience, plus more time and more experience. A good operator can do more with less than a beginner with every implement made. Get one implement and learn it well. Be happy and fortunate to have that one implement. Smile every time you remember that you own a tractor. This is a true story about two guys I know. Friend A had an old worn out tractor with no loader. He saved for 15 years to buy a new used nice tractor with a loader. Friend B did not save. Always had a new radio controlled airplane. Friend B was jealous. Friend A went on his first day to Friend B’s house to show him the rig and help him with some projects that need a loader. Worked all day then said just call me anytime so I can help you. This is great to share so neither of us struggles with back straining jobs. That evening Friend B became more jealous and went into an hour long rage saying to his wife that friend A did not deserve any tractor. Shortly he told the same to Friend A. They are no longer friends. Friend B’s wife told Friend A that you are better off without Friend B.

Thanks for the great info. Bought a box blade last season, used it, actually abused it. I pulled up some big rocks on 800 ft of ungravelled driveway - rocks too big for the implement and bent the heck out of the bar holding the scaribes. I was pondering the idea of a land plane but i think my property is just not at that point yet of a nice neat gravel roadway. Still too much to do. Can't wait for spring.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Morning FM. They are pretty tough but you can see some of my scarifiers are bent for exactly the same reason - pulling up deeper rocks below the surface. But yes, from what I have experienced, the land plane works really well on a good solid gravel driveway (several inches of gravel on a solid base). Similar to you, I have a long way to go before I have a few inches of gravel throughout so until then, I find the BB works better. Good luck with your project this summer!

100% agree. Been using a box blade to contour parts of my yard before we put down new sod and once I got the scarifiers and angle set right, it's been a breeze. I did have a problem with the box starting to float (ground is really compressed with a lot of clay), but hanging a bunch of suitcase weights off the sides fixed that. I can, fairly reliably, carve off an inch or two on a pass without the box blade starting to float, or risking it digging down further than I want. Its also nice that I can push small piles of dirt around in reverse to make it easier to pick up and move with the bucket. Just have to be careful with that though, I've heard people have damaged the link arms doing that if they get too aggressive.

Great video 👍

You made up my mind! I'm buying a box blade. I have about 600' of ditch that I need to get back in shape after 7 or 8 years mowing it with my heavy commercial grade zero turn. It has 3 ruts on both angles and is V'd out pretty bad. I am going to buy a 48" box with 4 scarifiers for my John Deere 430 Diesel with a front loader. I need to shave off anywhere from 1" or 2 " to 12" and redistribute so my ditches are gradual instead of the V the have become. I think the box and scarifiers will break the ground and even move it some, then finish with the loader. That JD 430 is pretty impressive. It has never lacked power or traction with the Diesel engine and AG tires. I'll find out this spring! Thanks for the help! And petition the Municipality to get those folks some good base and nice topcoat! lol

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning John! Good stuff! And good luck with the project. The BB is great for gathering and re-distributing material. LOL It would be great if they could spare a little for that road! Take care!

Boxblade without a doubt, GP. Enjoyed a full-watch. Have a fine week.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

You too Houndsman! Cheers!

Good two part series.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Use the Box Blade first to fill in the ruts and the land plane to level everything off. The land plane is not as affected by the tractor when it is on hills and Knolls

Hi GP! I have to agree with you. If I had to pick one, it’d be the box blade. You can do so much more with a box blade than a land plane. Great series! Thanks for sharing!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks DIY! Cheers!

Really educational video, GP! I think I lucked out and made the right decision this past spring when I bought a box blade - identical to yours but the 6’ version. That decision was very much based on your prior videos. That box blade, along with the new 7’ rear blade I bought with the new tractor, should do pretty much everything I’ll need for many years to come. A land plane would be nice but none of the driveways or access lanes I work on have enough gravel for that! Cheers!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good stuff Dave! Happy they helped a bit. Good luck and enjoy the new tractor! Cheers!

Very good., And I believe I will get both. My farm has one of those well Maintained drives, but also a lot of waterways that need filled in.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks and cheers Darren!

Looking good Gord😎👍🏻

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Chris! Cheers!

Good information. I have been weighing my options and as you pointed out the box blade seems to be more versatile than the land plane. If all I needed to do was maintain a driveway, then the land plane would be the way to go, but I have more than just the driveway and some of it involves trails in the woods, which I think the box blade is going to be better suited for that purpose. Thanks again for the great info.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning Brad. I think that makes good sense too. Good luck and thanks for watching and for the comment. Cheers!

I agree GP, it depends on the land and the type of work you need to get done. I think box blade given the variety of terrain and materials you deal with. Have a great week Cheers

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Roy! You too good sir!

Fully agree!

Good information the box plane is the way I would go Thanks

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Brian! Thanks!

Good comparison! I would say the land plane is to the front snowblower, what the box blade is to the rear snowblower. It all goes does to speciality versus versatility. Thanks!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good analogy Joe! Cheers!

Good job on the road GP and an interesting comparison. I've always done my driveway with a rear blade but I might get a box blade because I think it would take half the time to do it.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mark! Have a good one!

I suspected that the overall winner would be the box blade for your road grading project. I got a box blade this spring, and although i have only used it a couple times, it totally does the job! no matter which you choose, though, be aware it is going to take quite a few passes to get the surface nice. I liked the close-up shots which really show how each of these implements work. Great video, Gord, you are the master! Cheers!!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

LOL! Thanks very much Michael. Each one takes some time to get to learn how to use them but I agree - for my needs the box blade makes the most sense too. Thanks again and hope you are enjoying the 2601! Cheers!

Good job grading. “Eye” grade working good. Both have a place to work. Box blade is a lot heavier too. If I had to choose one it would be a box blade. A grader blade that you can change angles on is good compromise. Some you can add wings that go on the end to make it a “box ” blade.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Ric! I am still pretty bad with the rear blade, but getting the hang of the box blade pretty good now. Take care and have a good one!

Good comparison GP... never having used a land plane I was going with the box blade from the start due to its known flexibility. But watching both perform in similar conditions and listening to your reasoning, I for sure agree with your synopsis on both. Its kinda like a fellow can drive a nail with a sledge hammer, but a claw hammer does it better kind of thing. Ok...so that's a poor analogy. LOL. Thanks for a great series for the discerning compact tractor owner sir !! Always informative, professionally done and unbiased in opinion. Well....you're a little biased toward Kubota, but that's acceptable.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Heh..heh... Thanks T! It was a good exercise for me to do as well. Learned a lot about their differences. Have a great weekend kind sir!

Awesome video. The camera angles are extraordinary. I wonder if viewers are noting that you wear proper clothing, gloves, boots and hearing protection. Most folks who present compact tractor operation online wear shorts, leisure shoes, and no hand or ear protection., which most definitely can lead to a trip to the emergency room. Truely, there is very much to learn in this video-- technique, attachment capability, blade dynamics, tractor operation, safety. Thank you. R.Henry, M.D. (L2501 owner/operator)

@GPOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Good morning and thanks very much for your comments this morning. I appreciate it very much and am happy you enjoy them. Yes, LOL. I have a great bunch of subscribers and I have learned a lot from them over the last few years - including the importance of safety. If I tried to run a chainsaw without hearing protection, for example, they would make sure to let me know. LOL. And I am the better for it. :)) Thanks again and all the best!

I agree 100%. The land plane is kinda 1 dimensional. Kinda like the finish mower of earth moving. Plus it needs more scarifiers. 4 is just too far apart. PLUS with a box blade you get the push and pull capabilities, and only the box blade would move snow nicely. As simple as a box blade is, the top and tilt abilities really go a long way for grading and crowning. It really takes awhile to master it to use it to it's fullest potential. I really like my heavy rear blade, (rb3772) the extra weight, (640lbs) just digs deep in 1 pass, turning the gravel up deep, then I reverse the blade and the weight of the blade facing backwards, going forward, distributes the worked up gravel perfectly. Then I roll it with my 900lb pull behind roller, and it helps the setting stage so the 1st rain doesn't rut out the loose stuff. One day I'll have the hydraulic top and tilt. Imagine the possibilities? Anyways, CHEERS from a Wisconsin truck driver. You have a beautiful place. 3 hours or 1, you weren't "working". Ha ha. God bless

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning and thanks for the information IHB! I still have a lot to learn on it but I agree with you. The roller must be really handy. I usually have to drive my truck over the surface numerous times after I finish to try to pact it down a bit before the next rain. Having a roller would help alot. Hydraulic top and tilt? Now, you're talking. LOL. Thanks all the way to Wisconsin and all the best to you. Drive safe!

After 10 years those roads looked great. They will need worked regularly to control the newly loosened material.

great vid GP

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Mal!

Well Gord, I guess you have changed my mind. I didn't know which attachment to build next and you won me over. I'll build a hybrid. A plane box, so to speak. Here's a winter project added to the list. And my wife thought I was almost done my projects. Sheesh. LOL

@GPOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

LOL! Good luck with the build Dany!

I couldn't agree more Gord. Box Blade if only 1 to choose from. One cannot deny the land plane finishes better at 'dressing' a drive way up if not in too bad a shape, but the box blade is more versatile.👍☺

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed BB! Have a great week!

I have a campground with a 1/4 mile lane plus roads in the campground. Twice a year I grade the roads with a land plane and a york rake to keep them maintained. In the spring the land plane takes some time but I tried a box blade once and it held too much material and tended to dig low spots in the drive. Different tools for different jobs I suppose.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Morning Roadstar. Thanks for sharing. I always like hearing how other folks do things - I still have lots to learn. I did notice when I am on a well gravelled driveway, that landplane works perfect and really easy to use. Thanks again - take care!

The prices I checked out the land plane was a lot more costly than the box blade. The box blade would be my choice and I am planning on getting one as soon as I have the money!

Like the video GP ,and I have Blade and Box blade but I used more the blade .cause Im an old Wise man .

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

LOL! Yes, you most certainly are my friend. :)) All the best!

Good evening GP ! Great videos series Sir, yes in deed the box blade is also very good for fuel cost efficiency !!! Great camera angle view and nice tractor action therapy for GP !!! LOL Cheers and have yourself a great Week !!! Ho I forgot ! Joe's birthday is coming up 14 sep !!! LOL

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning and thanks for letting me know Dave! I will have to remember his special day! All the best!

Ya GP....for that application the box blade works better....great job and stay safe my friend........ :)

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

You too Don! Cheers!

always appreciate the videos. one thing ive noticed with my box blade is i NEVER run it was the scarifiers down unless trying to rip out tree routs. when i first got it i always had it down but now all i do is tilt the box blade so the front blade does all the ripping. it rips more evenly and smooth in my opinion and will still fill in low spots if the ground has lot of angulation to it. after about a half a dozen trips around my trails after i have some loose dirt on them i then angle the 3 point so the box blade rear blade is angled slightly down and the front blade is slightly up and it grades all the material out and disperses it very nicely. this is my experience though and i have mostly clay on all my trails.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks Kalvin. It is a pretty versatile piece of equipment. I have learned that when grading the driveway, the scarifiers come in pretty handy as they help to turn the layers of gravel we dropped over the years such that they can mix and lock in together better so we don't have "layers" of gravel but an interlocked surface of all the underlying layers. Love the Box blade for sure. Thanks for sharing!

@kalvindizzle4058

4 жыл бұрын

@@GPOutdoors yeah we all have to learn what works best for us and our conditions. with my trails being clay here in michigan it just seemed to make a mess haha. as always love the videos.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Kalvin, you are 100% right. Each of us have different conditions and we just kind of learn over time what works best for us on our lands. Great point sir! Have a great weekend and thanks again!

hard to say because they are both great to use but i think like you said box blade is the one

box blade is a winner!

I’ve used a Gannon for 35 years and have been able to do all kinds of jobs. The box scraper takes more skill to use proficiently. Most part time users never really master the scraper. The land plane is for light grading and easier to use for part time operators

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good day DM! I can believe that for sure. It definitely takes a lot of experience and skill over time I have learned. I get a little bit better over time but it is a bit of an art I think and I have a ways to go. Thanks for the great insightful comments this morning. Take care!

How's she goin'? Great review GP. I have a box blade and it's great for exactly what you say. I also wish I had a land plane as that is a great attachment too. Thanks for posting!!!!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

You bet Grampie! I like them both too - either works great depending on what I need to do. Cheers!

@swampwhiteoak1

4 жыл бұрын

Learn to better use that box blade and you don’t need a plane. Time and experience. Save the money and storage space.

box blade is better for all around work and land plane is good for finish work. I have a box blade. Good tip on weight distribution of each implement. Here comes winter!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

LOL. It sure is CP. I was wearing my flannel work shirts this week. It is getting chilly now. All the best!

It is cooling off at night in Pennsylvania and the daylight is getting shorter. Where does the summer go? I myself hate hot weather and love autumn. But anyhow I am still waiting to see you enjoy the lake. You seem to love work . As a long time boat owner (past tense).We know a boat is the place you throw money and WORK so you should like boating. So how about taking us for a ride. Thanks and take care.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning David. It is here too. I am wearing flannel most days now. Soon the leaves will turn. Yes, several folks have asked for a ride around the lake. Just need the time and opportunity. Need a sunny day with no winds and free time to do it. Hope to get something put together before I have to pull it out. All the best!

Great video. I think the land plane is more for up keep and the box blade is more for building and repairing. My wife thinks I should stop watching your video. She said my dream tracker is gotten more and more expensive. My son is back me up. Lol!!! 👍

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

LOL Denis! Thats funny. Good thing you have back-up. LOL. Thanks and all the best to you and your family!

This is NOT an instructional video, that kills me keep up the good work

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

LOL Whiskies. Well, I don't want folks thinking I have years of experience or anything. :)) Thanks and have a great week!

I’ve been watching your videos and really like your detail in describing all the different implements and their benefits. I just purchased the 2601 for our cabin in Colorado. Our cabin is on the side of the mountain and has a road that was cut in about 20 years ago. No gravel has ever been laid. It’s worse than any of the roads on your videos but your videos are going to save me a lot of research on the best implements to tackle the road. Thank you for the informative videos. I’ve watched about 20 videos so far and look forward to the rest. I’ll be better prepared this spring to build the road properly. I will have to cut in culverts as well. Do you have any videos or links you would suggest for culvert installation? “Cheers”

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning Chuck! Thanks very much for watching and very happy you are enjoying them. A friend of mine lives in Colorado now and said the views and the mountains are stunning and beautiful. Congrats on the new tractor! I can't think of any videos I would suggest for digging culverts but I think if you search on that term on youtube, hopefully some good videos will come up for you. Not sure if you purchased the back hoe for the b2601 or not. I know I have used the rear blade for digging out the sides of my driveway to help steer the rainwater away from the driveway, and that has worked well for me so far. There are several videos on the channel you will see, but I imagine creating culverts may be a little more involved than the simple things I have done so far. Good luck and perhaps come spring time, let me know from time to time how it is going. Cheers!

A couple thoughts. The box blade had a 20% advantage at the beginning. Land plane (4) scarifiers, box blade (5). Also, first pass or two, land plane scarifiers too high. Great comparison though!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Morning Kevin. Some good points. Yes, I definitely had them too high to start. Enjoyed doing it and watching how the two of them responded to that old roadway. Thanks for watching and for your thoughts. Be well and all the best!

@dukeboy-6645

4 жыл бұрын

Also, way more aggressive angle on the scarifiers on the box blade, the cutting blade on the box blade wasn't even touching. The land plane would have done just as well had it been set up correctly.

To add to this after you get the land loose enough or more gravel the land plane will be faster for a quick maintance and also the land plane is alot easier to use and get a smooth driveway.

Land Plane is a one trick pony. Box blade does many things. Great video !

@jdub229r

4 жыл бұрын

David Horne I have both. I like to scarify and rough up the gravel with the box, then lay it down flat with the land plane. I fabricated my land plane myself, doesn't have scarifiers, basically a ripoff of the EA.

@davidhorne2326

4 жыл бұрын

Jdubski NC Great that you can fab your own. Land planes are pricey! Maybe one day my ship will come in and I can asphalt. What part of NC?

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks David! Cheers!

GP, if you had a hydraulic top link. Box scrapers are even more useful and the job gets done sooner. The land plane needs the cutting edges angled a little more. That angle will cut better and reduce need for scarifiers.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning Andrew! Yes I think i need to put that hydraulic top link on the list for one day. I can see how beneficial it would be to have it for sure. Thanks for your advice and thoughts as always - have a great week!

I saw you backing up and not gathering up more material and a light in my mind went off . Thats how to finish off when on end of run with the gatherings from run of road

@GPOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Good morning Henry! LOL. It works well for me. I keep the box tilted slightly forward (towards the tractor) and as I back up I lift it slightly off the ground. That seems to allow the material to escape under the rear until there is none left, or if I am getting to the end I lift it a little more slowly to try to run out by the time I get there. Hope that helps - have a great week!

I've had a B7800 for 14 years, always wanted a box blade to maintain my gravel driveway but refused to pay high price of new equipment. Unfortunately the few used ones I've seen for sale want within $100 of new. Seems like when people buy them they keep them. Along with being unable to persuade my other half its worth spending the cash, I am still dreaming of one. Not sure why you couldn't alter a box blade with a blade similar to a land plane and make the rear blade adjustable to do either job well.Thanks for the video.

Nice comparison videos. If it's not too much to ask, the next time you use the box blade (or land plane), could you maybe explain if and when you raise the implement? It's hard to tell on the video if it is being raised and the dirt falls out, or if it is just falling into the holes. If you can't, or don't want to for whatever reason, I understand. Thanks GP.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning DA. So sorry about that. I actually meant to put in text on the screen when I was lifting versus not lifting and also I accidentally cut out a part where I explained the angle I tilted the box to and why. I try to keep those notes in there but it slipped my mind. My mistake. For reference, I very seldom lifted it this time. The ruts and potholes were so deep (the camera did not do a good job of showing them) that most every time you saw the material escape it was because I was driving slowly overtop of a deep undulation so the material naturally fell out the bottom. Take care!

It's pretty clear to see that the box blade will bring the roads back to life and the land plane will keep it in a well groomed condition.

Good call. Land plane does a better job but box blade more versatile

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Cheers Tony!

Box blade harder worker but land plane smoother finisher!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Well said Frank! Cheers!

One advantage of the land plane is when you need to crown the road. The land plane is designed to push the dirt towards one side (usually drivers left). If you always us the land plane while driving on the right hand side of the road, you will automatically increase the crown. The same thing can be accomplished with the box scraper, but it requires adjusting the lower link arms to make the scraper higher on the left. Then you gotta adjust them back at some point. Of course, if you do not want to increase the crown, the box scraper can be more complex to use. You have to run it once around the loop while driving on the right, then go around once while driving on the left. This will balance out any effects on the crown. Love my box scraper, but would also like a land plane.

@petehutzel3778

4 жыл бұрын

In the second to last paragraph, where I said box scraper, I meant to say land plane.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Great points Pete. Thanks for the advice and info. I would like to try doing that at some point. Be well and all the best!

G P thanks now know what to buy for the job God Bless PaK

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

All the best Peter!

Nice video. I like this camera angle that shows the blades close-up. I've got a project very similar to yours but only have a landplane. Curious to know how you're going to give the road a crown.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning Terry. Not sure I will get to do that - depends on the folks that live there but if i do , I will do it similar to what I did on video 185. I will use the rear blade to dig out both sides of the driveway to create the angles and then use the land plane to finish it ( but this time I won't go right through the middle of the road - LOL). I will stay on the sides of the centre line. Cheers!

Gp, isn’t that why you have both, so you don’t have to decide! You can use both. Thanks for the video!

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

LOL! Good point Michael! Have a great week!

Warning to all box blade users. When going backwards to push with the rear cutting edge there is a very serious risk of damage. If the edge snags on some immovable object like the edge of a huge stone, the box can stop or slide sideways bending the arms. 3 point lift arms can easily bend and require expensive replacement. Possibly damage to the hydraulics as well. The lift arms strength is designed for pulling not pushing. Use caution when pushing any implement in reverse.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning and thanks very much for the great comment. I am sure many folks will see your advice and I think that might explain why my right hand stabilizer bar was bent last summer. A few folks had suggested the same thing. Thanks again for taking the time to share this with us all. Have a great weekend!

GP, another great video. I noticed that you had the quick attach with the land plane, but not with the box blade. I really like your editing of your videos. Do you use any kind of teleprompter or are you doing it all of the top of your head? -- Michael

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good day and thanks Michael! Unfortunately the box blade is not QH compatible. Guy said he could re-weld the brackets in different positions to make it compatible though. No, I am not at all scripted or use any type of reference - just top of mind (but I do sometimes make a lot of re-takes). LOL. Thanks again and happy you are enjoying them. Cheers!

@swampwhiteoak1

4 жыл бұрын

A quick hitch is usually a nuisance causing inefficiency. There is no absolute universal quick hitch. Many implements do not work at all on a quick hitch. Some implements do not work well on a quick hitch. If an implement has a pto shaft, it may be too short if a quick hitch is used. Then when going to an implement that does not fit the quick hitch, remove the quick hitch and then mount the implement. Then install the quick hitch AGAIN. A quick hitch is a crutch. Skills beat a crutch any day every day. Learn to use your tractor competently and safely. Square up and attach each implement properly. Learn some tips from an experienced tractor veteran. Spend the day with me and you will not want a quick hitch. A quick hitch costs about $1,250 for American made. Pay me $750 for skills you can use on every tractor and every implement for the rest of your life. Save the extra $500 to buy some safety gear for yourself.

GP, I think you’d get better life out of your hydraulics if you kept the engine running when you drop the 3 point or loader arms. You don’t want to over pressure your hydraulic hoses by dropping them w/ the engine off. Great video as always keep it up. Also waiting on a Tacoma video, curious your thoughts on your truck

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good day Tyler. I don't think I ever knew that. Thanks for the good advice. I didn't realize it mattered so will make a practice of doing it while running from now on. Thanks! Love the truck. It's the second one I have owned. This one is the TRD model. Only thing is it rides really stiff unlike the last one I had which was an SR5 model. Otherwise could;t be happier with it. Take care and thanks again!

very good information.. looks as if the road was a lot more dirt and less gravel?

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, it sure turned out that way, Norman. I thought it was supposed to be all gravel but it was quite the opposite. Thanks!

The box is ok with a hyd. top link but I'm still going to build a land plane.

box blade is for moving material and land plane is for leveling

Great video! I apologize if I missed it, but what's the width of your box blade, is it 60"? I have the B2601, and will be using it to grade hard packed gravel and millings, lots of ruts and potholes to fix! I thought the 60" might bog down the tractor a bit too much.

I'm late getting to this video and conversation. It was hard to see from the camera shots but the front planer blade cutting edge appears to be flush with the bottom of the side skid rails. If so, it would seem that the skids would prevent the cutting edge from planing action until the scarifiers loosened and bulked up the surface. Is there an adjustment to lower the planer blades slightly below the skids (raise the skids)? I could be wrong of course:)

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning Terry! They are slightly offset but yes, you can adjust them up or down as needed. I forget how far but I just have to loosen the bolts on the sides. I have never adjusted it myself - I left it in the position it came in. Thanks for watching and for the great question this morning!

@terrylutke

4 жыл бұрын

I'm trying to think through why the plane was so inferior VS the box (plus I'm bored & quarantined); productivity wasn't even close. The plane concept is appealing because it seems to require less operator finesse than a box. It's kind of a big deal since planes are expensive, and most promo videos show them cutting/leveling drives like they were in soft butter. The plane's long flat skid bottoms are probably unhelpful on hard pack drives. If I owned a plane I would try exposing more cutting edge, and experiment with some implement weights.

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good investigative reasoning there, Terry. I believe you are correct - Over last summer what I learned is if the driveway has a good base of gravel then it works excellent. If it is hard packed dirt and very little or no gravel, it does not work as well as the BB. Love it though- it is so simple when I use it on the part of my driveway that I have dropped alot of gravel on but not so good at all when dragging it on the dirt and rocks portions. Thanks for the info and for sharing!

@terrylutke

4 жыл бұрын

@@GPOutdoors I'm really not trying to drag this into dead-horse-kicking territory. I have a welding shop and I may build a land plane, but with some changes. I'd like to have the cutting edges be more easily adjustable vertically, and be adjustable asymmetrically to allow edge sloping. I would add a 3rd blade at the tail of the shields for backing up to pavement edges. Also I question how cross angling the cutting edges serves any important function. cutting edge angling probably mixes the material slightly better because of more linear distance, but box blade designers surely don't bother with that feature. Anyway cross angling sort've messes with my thoughts of easy vertical blade adjustment, which I think is more important. Also the whole apparatus probably needs more designed-in, or added dead weight. The long side shields add to ease of operation by use of beam and material containment, but your example device also seems to limit aggressiveness when required. I'm thinking I can fix that:)

That’s one hard road😥

Good video Are you using a 60" box blade?

@GPOutdoors

2 жыл бұрын

Yes sir!

Fabulous video on the two planes? Did you not want to use the scarier on the drive way with box blade? Or was there not enough base materials?

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Good morning and thanks Dave. Happy you enjoyed it. I did use the scarifiers on the box for the first several passes. I should have zoomed in on that overhead shot closer, as it was hard to see. It dug in much more effectively so i didn't need to use them for long, compared to the land plane. Thanks again and all the best!

@mp3625

4 жыл бұрын

Did see that? Lol any difference with using the scafiers on the box blade or land plane does one cut deep aa you can apply down force?

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

Yes big difference Dave. On my B2601 there is no down force on the 3 point hitch, like there is on bigger tractors. But although they both weigh about 450 pounds, the box blade is dimensionally smaller so I think the weight is more concentrated on the scarifiers which may be why they tended to dig more effectively and quicker than on the landplane. Hope that helps!

@mp3625

4 жыл бұрын

Well i didnt that about the B series? In reference to down force?? Something i must look for in the tractor I choose??

@GPOutdoors

4 жыл бұрын

I am 99% sure no one makes a sub or compact tractor with down force on the 3 point. Small utility tractors may not either. I think the larger tractors are the only ones with down pressure. I am almost positive. But certainly something to ask when you are shopping around. Good luck Dave!

Does your box blade totally cover your rear wheels? I’m looking a LandPride BB for my L2900 (32hp), and the dealer was pointing me to the 54” model rather than the 60”...saying that a smaller one might be more practical. My tires are just under 60” in width. Am I better off with the 60”?

@GPOutdoors

3 жыл бұрын

Good day Werner. That seems different than I was told and have learned from my dealer as well as other dealers and subs. Grading equipment (box blade, landplane, rear blade etc) should be wider than your back tires from what I have been told and have learned. Perhaps ask him to explain why he suggests something smaller (I would not want to suggest I know better than him). Also, my Operator's manual includes a page that outlines some standard 3 point attachments and what is acceptable for my tractor (widths and weight) - the box blade is listed there and not sure but if you have your manual, then maybe take a quick look. Good luck!