"No longer a walking Christmas tree." Brilliant! :D

Much better load out, than even equipment used today. They really made the jacket and pants, into real survival gear.

@badbotchdown9845

2 жыл бұрын

No it was really awful to have a coat with all inside going side by side when running not comfortable when sitting on truck benches, very awful with rifle magazines in the chest pockets. Not enough protected for cold weather, keeping sweat and moisture for days. Apart from the hood and the IR veil it was a big crap

@splittertarn2

Жыл бұрын

@@badbotchdown9845 I would say it was decent for the era it was developed in. Also, when it comes to cold weather, quilted layers are a thing… But of course, I wouldn’t use my m70 uniform for serious situations, I have better stuff for that. I would call this more of an evaders choice of kit rather than a frontline soldiers kit.

@WehrmachtsParadise

4 ай бұрын

​@@badbotchdown9845 No.

The Swiss were the ones who correctly understood that any defence against Soviet attack is anti-tank defence and gave every soldier an anti-tank weapon. It might not have been the best, but they had it and they had a lot of it.

@harryhirsch8527

3 жыл бұрын

The Swiss were the ones ...good one

@PySnek

2 жыл бұрын

germany started with this in WW2, not switzerland

@brianfergus839

2 жыл бұрын

@@PySnek yeah Germany started a lot of shit

@Murmelmann

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Finland!

@balkanicsense1952

2 жыл бұрын

@@brianfergus839 like still today.

There is so much interesting stuff that isn't on the internet yet.

@goatmurray

3 жыл бұрын

Dale the Stgw. Dude I'm excited to learn more, keep it coming!

We were hardly ever wearing that combat uniform. Most of the time it was the "Gebirgs Anorak" with the woolen pants. Much more comfortable for long marches, skiing, running etc. Looking back it seems to me, we only wore the Kampfanzug 70 when the exercise had something of an official touch - like an inspection or what not. That was the case during basic training (Andermatt 1986), NCO Training etc. and all my refresher courses after that. I actually quite liked the Mountain Anorak with the woolen pants, never had a problem with the wool chaffing my thighs..... otherwise... heult der Wolf ;-)

@badbotchdown9845

2 жыл бұрын

I haven't made one day of service without long underwear under my pants, more comfortable when outside and not wolf for me.

@ursusfloeckli9065

2 жыл бұрын

@@badbotchdown9845 I was lucky in that regard. The wolf left me alone, even with short underwear in summer.

@Braun30

2 жыл бұрын

In 1979 we wore it very often, even if we were mountain infantry. As I had a bad case of sinus troubles I once "lost" three nose sprays in those pockets, only to find them the moment we changed the uniforms for regular cleaning. Chur 212/79

@ursusfloeckli9065

2 жыл бұрын

@@Braun30 Basic and NCO Training in Andermatt/Stans (Geb Inf RS 211/86) was mostly done in the Gebirgs-Anorak. WKs nearly exclusively (Geb Füs Bat lll/72).

@stevepiemontesi6695

2 жыл бұрын

Et bien tu as eu bien de la chance !! Moi j'ai fais mon ecole de recrue à Colombier en 1986 suivi de 7 cours de répetition et on portait cette tenue jour et nuit....

“Anti- Infrared veil”. Damn. I wonder how affective it was. Thanks for the translation. Your videos are amazing.

@rancidpitts8243

3 жыл бұрын

Anything that blurs the shape of the face is useful. In 1961 Infrared scanners were few and far between, and not the quality of today's scanners.

The rain coat was called the "Drac(ula)", because wearing it with your gas mask gives you a scary look!

Blends in well in black and white

@Alexander-gb6oz

3 ай бұрын

In fact it was a piece of sh8t like Kampfanzug 70

love the face veils - anti IR - and a sound track almost writen by Elgar!

Today I learned that it can rain in Switzerland 😂👍

You can see jackets like that even today. In the German Army for example we infantrymen like to wear the ,,smock". Which is basically a jacket with a lot of pockets on the waist area. I've worn mine on marches, combat exercises and doing obstacle courses and i love it, very versatile

I fell in love with this uniform

@DaletheStgwDude

Жыл бұрын

Hot and heavy makes it attractive

The combat uniform was a nightmare! It made you incapable of moving quickly for a longer time. On the other time you could fill the pockets with food for an entire year!

@kimfucku8074

3 жыл бұрын

@@DaletheStgwDude I did my basic training in 1984 (Romont, Anti Tank Weapon PAL BB 77). We got mostly those with the waterproofing on the outside, which I believe was a newer model. Some older models, I believe they had the waterproofing on the inside, were also distributed.

@badbotchdown9845

2 жыл бұрын

@@kimfucku8074 we have only one concern with pants cutting the plastic with knife pocket already we have get them. Div mont 10 Art rgt 10 Sion 1985

Swiss Army Soldier's Knife can be seen at 0:27 and 2:10. The basic model was introduced in 1890 and redesigned in 1951. Starting in 1962 until 2007 it was redesigned to a different pattern with aluminum scales; the civil equivalent (which actually came before the military issue) is predecessor to the current Pioneer. In 2008 a new model was introduced, larger, with saw and locking one-handed blade. It's equivalent is the Trailmaster. All Soldier knives except for the 2008 version were produced by both Victorinox and Wenger to the same standards, but slight modifications. The Soldier's rifle has always been a great utilitarian toolset, but also had tools to maintain the rifle (at least the bolt action ones).

Sehr fortschrittlicher Kampfanzug für diese Zeit.

Great film footage, it really shows the concept of the smock with pockets/face veil versus separate webbing concept. They certainly had some unique ideas and great translation, kind regards from Australia.

Aplausos para ese uniforme, tiene un parecido al alemán, nunca lo dejen, ni lo abandonen por camouflages pixelados ridículos, encontré bacan la parka, saludos de Arica chile.

thanks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for sharing this, I have the field jacket and now see the utility it provided the soldier. The veil is fascinating, never seen one, but makes total sense.

@hanktorrance6855

3 жыл бұрын

Dale, now I am going to look, I have two of these, I'll check both.

@Trancefreakeh

2 жыл бұрын

@@hanktorrance6855 And? :) Don't leave us hanging, Hank! ^^

That's a dope looking setup for being 60 years old

Absolutely brilliant set up.

Excellent ! Merci pour le partage ! Cela me rappelle le petit livre vert "Livre du soldat", qui était distribué jadis. J'espère voir d'autres perles historiques bientôt.

@badbotchdown9845

2 жыл бұрын

Ha oui çui là avec ses dessins en noir ou noir

Ha. I have one of these coats. They are great. The anti infared veil is one of my favorite things on it.

@pj4433

2 жыл бұрын

I do too, apart from its weight it’s fantastic, mine is missing the veil though. Wish I knew where to get hold of one.

Some interesting developments in equipment and load carrying

Отличный фильм!!!В фильме TAZ - 57 раннего типа...,,помочи на штанах с 4 пряжками,крепление штыка на куртке...Очень интересно.С меня лайк!

Hallo Dale. Ich finde deinen Kanal erstklassig! Deine Videos sind sehr hilfreich in bezug zu meinem interesse für die ersten Jahre des Kampfanzugs.. Hast du noch mehr Videos oder bezugsquellen für Infos zur Schweizer Armee Ausrüstung um 1958 bis 1964?

@DaletheStgwDude

2 жыл бұрын

Hoi Dave, danke! Leider gibt es zu dem Kampfanzug 61 nicht viel audiovisuelles Material. Am besten konsultieren Sie das Bundesarchiv, suchen Sie einfach, was Sie finden möchten.

I bought a jacket the model 57 great for hiking wear a fleece sweater under and I stay warm but breathable I prefer to hike with the jacket than a backpack saves my back and tires me out less

@DaletheStgwDude

2 ай бұрын

Congrats on your purchase! You probably bought a model 61 (if it has windcuffs, bayonet carrier and shoulder waterproofing) or model 70 (later simplified pattern).

Gosh, they are putting all that kit over a woolen uniform. I'd be sweating like a pig with all that! Love seeing old films like these!

@Thomachi

3 жыл бұрын

@@DaletheStgwDude I can only imagine! I'd also imagine the Swiss are used to cold temperatures anyways, and don't need a lot of layers even in the cold.

@simongartmann5294

3 жыл бұрын

@@Thomachi even for indigenous are temperatures on Gotthard and the alps to low to feel comfortable. I grew up in the alps and this winter was damn cold

@badbotchdown9845

2 жыл бұрын

For avoiding red scars on skin loup) I have always wearing long underwear under my pants

This is badass

very cool, garish is right

Même avec le programme Félin ils s’en sortent mieux que nous…

We have only two sizes for this one too big or too small

2:20 That is really useful.

Their ponchos su:k... Only way to be able to use as a shelter would be to gorilla tape two or three together and hope... They are good for a rain coat. I got 5 new for $20 ten years ago

Ha, I have the jacket and rucksack. I always wondered what those pockets on the bag were for. Fit water bottles in mine. Same the jacket came wishing the face scroll.

@pj4433

2 жыл бұрын

Shame I can’t type. That should have said shame it came without face veil

Merci ! Petite remarque : Le Tarnanzug 1983 ne remplace pas le Kampfanzug 70 -> il s'agit juste d'une tenue camouflée destinée au personnel "non-combattant". Le TAZ 83 n'a pas des poches spécialisées pour porter les chargeurs / grenades ....

@jodc2760

3 жыл бұрын

@@DaletheStgwDude Effectivement. Anecdote -> Comme les Fass 57 n'ont pas de porte-chargeurs attitrés (vu l'uniforme suisse), le Chili des années 1960s, a du acheter des portes-chargeurs de HK G3 à l'Allemagne pour pouvoir transporter les chargeurs de leurs SIG 510-4 acquis à l'époque.

I'd like a video / post explaining what goes in which pocket if possible. Thank you for this post. I'm nit sure why, but they tickle my interest enormously!

@badbotchdown9845

2 жыл бұрын

In rear pockets: canteen, pouch for shoe shine/sewing/spare buttons/3 brushes (two for shoes one for clothes) Pouch for maintain /clean rifle Gamelle= field bowl containing (same as German one) Alcohol solid field pocket stove With a white bag containing a spoon and fork.

@badbotchdown9845

2 жыл бұрын

In front: Chest pockets are for 2x2 Stgw magazines. Lower pockets are for paper/note book and pencil, personal things as cigarettes Left arm pocket personal band aid, for NCO a whistle

We hated the version with plastic coating. A mobile sauna, first thing you did when you were issued a new one was to cut all plastic off.

@badbotchdown9845

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right we did it also

У этой формы есть и недостатки...крючки ранца цепляются к куртке...и натирают кровоподтеки на ключицах...Но видимо суровых швейцарцев это не пугало!!!Других претензий нет к этой форме.

@DaletheStgwDude

Жыл бұрын

It’s definitely not very ergonomic. I feel they went a bit too far with this whole “integrated” concept. Definitely interesting though

@Alexander-gb6oz

3 ай бұрын

Как насчёт расцветки а-ля TAZ-57? В природе вообще существует местность, где такой камуфляж скрывал бы солдата?

SEMPER FIDELIS ALL GRANATIERI 🇨🇭

I would have the preferred to the low German version of this instructional video.

And now im im carrying around 35-40 kilos in the current Infantry RS...

@Braun30

2 жыл бұрын

Actual load was somewhere in that category. 6 kgs of magazines. 3 kgs of HG 43 6 Kgs Fass57 3 kgs gran ac 58 17 kgs heavy duty flack jacket Gas mask, pellerine (poncho), shovel, knapsack tied to the gazarusa with enough food for a couple of days. Then they asked you to run! The heavy flack jacket was for us, heavy mortar crews were considered stationary troops, so we got the heavy stuff.

@ursusfloeckli9065

2 жыл бұрын

@@Braun30 Autsch...... what a schlepp!

i have one of this

Die Schweizer, beschützt die Berge, Weitermachen ! x D

A 2.14, le brave soldat sort de sa poche le fameux "couteau suisse" à quarante- douze lames , c'est ça ?? LOL

@badbotchdown9845

2 жыл бұрын

Ben non le couteau de POCHE comme il s'appelle comporte une lame un poinçon un tournevis (qui sert comme contact pour tout les vhcles si pas de clé) un ouvre-boîte /decapsuleur et Basta

FWIW the voiceover is the characteristic tone of Alphonse Kehrer.

@badbotchdown9845

2 жыл бұрын

He have made so many army documentary voices

where can i buy that veil?

@DaletheStgwDude

2 жыл бұрын

It’s standard in all M61 and M70 vests

Try moving swiftly with 17kilo of equipment in your pockets.

I have a set of these. They aren't very practicle. Using it in summer you'll die. Takes forever to dry. It is not customizable at all. Basically a cotton smock and cargo pants with a ton of pockets.

@FEINDKONTAKT.

2 жыл бұрын

Ok. Maybe smth else to say?

@dankeykang6459

2 жыл бұрын

Worst uniform I ever bought. I actually like the Finnish m62 uniform with the Swedish webbing better.

I'm guessing it would be uncomfortable

Soviet army is so cool

Sa a limite laire plus pratique que lequipement actuel, je dirai meme moin encombrant

Great, bud not colored.

Swiss and army in one sentence? that is like Soy Sausage....stick to tax evasion and making chocolate

@ikoikoni

2 жыл бұрын

The swiss shot down multiple allied and German planes in ww2. They also shot at any German patrols who crossed the border. The swiss may be neutral but they aren't a push over.

@baronedipiemonte3990

2 жыл бұрын

@@ikoikoni It's a mistake, often a grave one, to look at the enemy as a "pushover".