1953 - 1964 Ford tractor gear-driven hydraulic pump upgrade (Jubilee, NAA & 600 series)

Step-by-step replacement of a vintage vane pump using a Windy Ridge Farm and Machine conversion kit.
windyridgefarm.us/WindyRidgeM...
Chapters:
0:00 Vane pump issues
2:15 Pumps 101 and conversion kit
5:34 Removing old pump
9:59 New gear pump install
15:56 Changing hydraulic lines
26:48 Testing, digging dirt and parade duty
30:53 Larger pressure line
36:13 Planting trees and moving stone
39:30 Finale

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  • @robertrabhudsonhornet5869
    @robertrabhudsonhornet5869 Жыл бұрын

    Rilly nice old Ford tractor. I love the old Ford tractors

  • @b.malnit8983
    @b.malnit898311 ай бұрын

    That little tractor works great.

  • @bobw7066
    @bobw7066 Жыл бұрын

    Good installation of the new pump, I also liked the little extension you made to move the larger diameter hose away from the gear case flange.

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @philliphall5198
    @philliphall5198 Жыл бұрын

    Cool stuff, I got several hydraulic pumps (newer) style rebuilt and ready plus several starters and generators rebuilt

  • @mikeoh5092
    @mikeoh50922 жыл бұрын

    Very nice modification, and a well made video.

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thank you!

  • @hansjansen7047
    @hansjansen70472 жыл бұрын

    i'm always amazed at how many people don't know how best to use an adjustable wrench.

  • @vr5.s507
    @vr5.s5072 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for sharing. I have a 640 with a intermittent pump and was thinking about it.

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    2 жыл бұрын

    Also you may want to consider a rebuild option on one of the newer pumps. Here is a good how-to video on that: kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4CVq81pdJTFqpc.html

  • @firemanauxoneknox4287
    @firemanauxoneknox4287 Жыл бұрын

    Very nice will think about it for my 53

  • @larrynance1269
    @larrynance12693 ай бұрын

    Great video!

  • @CliffsideStables
    @CliffsideStables Жыл бұрын

    And yes everyone loves “period correct “tie wraps! 😎 Tim in northern TN

  • @williamokrasinski9840
    @williamokrasinski98402 жыл бұрын

    Daniel. I have watched just about every Jubilee video there is and glean what I can from Yesterdays Tractors forum too, and not only congratulate you on the parade trophy, but you also should get an award for the clearest presentation on replacing the pump on a NAA. Everything about your install was just perfect. I watched your entire process and am intrigued. I've owned my 53 NAA Ser. 34312 for almost 12 years and some years ago contacted Windy Ridge Farm about that pump. I also have the Vane pump. I'm, for 11 years now, renovating my Jubilee. Everything is pretty much still apart. About two months ago I rebuilt the Lift cover Hydraulics. New O-ring,piston, and gaskets set. And cleaned out the inside of the reservoir. Borrowed a video by Dan Gingell & his dad. The surging is possibly caused by a bad O-ring on the unloader valve. My unloader valve did not have the o-ring, but early NAAs did. I also wondered about your interest in Mouser & Digi Key electronics as I also use them in my Ham Radio hobby. I hope you see this and we can connect more about our somewhat rare NAA tractors. I have many questions I'd like to ask. Lastly, there are ways to see what's happening with your hydraulics without removing the lift cover. You can remove either of the side covers to observe if oil is bypassing somewhere.

  • @tnhomestead

    @tnhomestead

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just got me a jubilee couple days ago. it's a 53,but can't read the serial.

  • @williamokrasinski9840

    @williamokrasinski9840

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tnhomestead Fine business Daniel. Unfortunately for us there aren't near as many made as the 8N. There are several forums for these old tractors and many resources for parts. It looks like you made a good find and still 6Volt system too. The 6Volt will serve you well, Just keep battery posts and cable terminals clean and it will work well. You handled that pump change like a pro. Unless it's a very early model 53, the serial is on the LH bell housing behind the starter. You may have to remove some paint to see it. If there is nothing there, it will be on the upper LH forward side of the block. I'm anxious to get mine back together and maybe it will look as good as yours. Mine will remain retired like me. I use my 53 Ferguson TO30 on my small acreage. Nice music too.

  • @tnhomestead

    @tnhomestead

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@williamokrasinski9840 The serial on mine is on the head, but need to get it cleaned up to find the numbers. I can tell they are there, but can only see a couple of them.

  • @williamokrasinski9840

    @williamokrasinski9840

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@tnhomestead Sorry for my confusion. I thought I was communicating with Daniel who replaced his Hyd. Pump. So I'm still curious now about both you and Daniel's tractors. If it's an early NAA, the serial is on the block below the Exh. manifold above the generator. After serial number 22239, it on the flat behind the starter on the bell housing.

  • @tnhomestead

    @tnhomestead

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@williamokrasinski9840 Figured that. My serial is on the block, just can't read it well. Going to see if I can figure it out this week.

  • @joshsundiwa
    @joshsundiwa Жыл бұрын

    nice thanks for sharing

  • @chuckfry1227
    @chuckfry1227 Жыл бұрын

    You needed to shorten the top link a smidge. The scraper won’t try to dive so fast. Love my golden jubilee

  • @darrelfuhrman8217
    @darrelfuhrman8217 Жыл бұрын

    Daniel, those hydraulic fittings are called ORB, short for O-Ring Boss. The threads are based on SAE or fine thread bolt sizes. Hello from north east Montana. 10 miles from the Canadian border.

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    Great, thanks for the additional knowledge!

  • @TEXANConnection
    @TEXANConnection Жыл бұрын

    Very Informative, have you seen the new hyd adapter plate for the jubilee? so you can add remote hydraulics? i think that paired with the bigger pump would be GREAT!

  • @georgeosborne4048

    @georgeosborne4048

    Жыл бұрын

    Can you provide a link?? Or more info? Thank you

  • @danielmontoya8917
    @danielmontoya89172 жыл бұрын

    Can you provide info on The rear attachment your using, and how do you unload the material? Great video!

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks! That is a dirt scoop. You can still get them new at places like Rural King or Tractor Supply, or get used ones from Craigslist. The operate like a trip bucket. When you set them down, you can pull a rope to undo a latch mechanism, then when you pick up the bucket it swings down and dumps the material out. Not as elegant as a proper front end loader, but once you get the hang of it they are very useful and the next best thing. With a bit of planning you can get a lot done, even excavating.

  • @dwitcraft
    @dwitcraft Жыл бұрын

    Not to be snippy, but the period correct tie wrap(26:00) would be baling wire;) Great install.

  • @bobw7066

    @bobw7066

    Жыл бұрын

    Here in Australia we call it cocky's joy {fencing wire}.

  • @bobw7066

    @bobw7066

    Жыл бұрын

    Cocky is a nick name for a dirt farmer

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    Ha, yes it would, haha.

  • @benkanobe7500
    @benkanobe7500Ай бұрын

    What "Red" did you use with the Rattle Can? Do you recommend it?

  • @mikeclement5383
    @mikeclement53832 жыл бұрын

    Can you run a whole new line for the steel line to a fitting, or does it require a versa link?

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    2 жыл бұрын

    You could replace the whole line back, like I did the smaller one. Since the kit came with the versa link I went with that first.

  • @donvoll2580
    @donvoll25802 жыл бұрын

    Good day from Ontario. Would this work on 800 series too? Good video Thanks

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks, I don't see anything on their website explicitly calling out 800 series, but they do list 1000 series, so it might be possible. I would recommend giving them a call, perhaps it is just some parts differences in the kit.

  • @davidknows3320
    @davidknows3320 Жыл бұрын

    Before I finish the video, I'm saying your surging is the lift correcting. Does it do it with no load on the 3 point? let's see if I am right. LOL Thanks for the video, well done.

  • @davidknows3320

    @davidknows3320

    Жыл бұрын

    yep, can see it correcting at 37:17 with the tree on the rear forks

  • @johnlemmey7698
    @johnlemmey7698 Жыл бұрын

    Surging is coming from the suction. Just have a think.....

  • @john1072
    @john10722 жыл бұрын

    Hello sir, your tractor is interesting. Every 100 series tractor I have seen has the hydraulic lines inside the trans case. And a Manifold that bolts up to it and connects to the vane pump. Thats the way i mine is. I'd love to replace my original vickers vane pump, but not sure if its possible. Is there a kit available for my application. 1957 Ford 600 tractor. 134CID w/ vickers vane pump. Please advise. thanks!

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yes, if you go to the Windy Ridge Farm and Machine website you will see a kit option for the 600 series tractors, which have the cast manifold instead of individual hydraulic lines. Mine is an earlier model NAA, so is a bit different than yours.

  • @manuelsepeda5324

    @manuelsepeda5324

    Жыл бұрын

    Where do I drain the oil and refill it to the right level

  • @markrix
    @markrix Жыл бұрын

    Ha, I was waiting for that old gasket material to fall into the housing

  • @kulwinderghuman2548
    @kulwinderghuman2548 Жыл бұрын

    Hi I have a 53 Juiblee that I want to do the same conversion on because it leaks. The seller’s website is no longer working is there any other outfits that do the same type of conversion kits? Thank you. I have already tried changing out all the gaskets and o rings. Leak seems to be coming from manifold at the bottom once it’s been running for a few mins. I see no obvious cracks or any other damage.

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, unfortunately it seems the owner is ill right now, so currently not taking new orders. The real key to his kit was the adapter between the proofmeter housing and the new pump, if you could find someone to machine it: www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=908875 Also J&D Prodicutions, Inc. and WaltsTractors will rebuild old pumps. I would suggest contacting both to see if they would start offering a similar conversion package.

  • @freepop0110
    @freepop01102 жыл бұрын

    Price of the new pump?

  • @davidvines6498
    @davidvines6498 Жыл бұрын

    I just bought a 1954 NAA. I got all my Tires holding air now. Next will be getting a 6 volt battery, adding antifreeze and water to the Radiator and changing fluids if it starts up right away. It sat in a barn for 7 years, but the previous owner drained the gas tank and carb, radiator and block. Do you think I should just get a carb kit and clean it up before starting it?

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    Good luck! I would try starting it as is to get going, and plan on a downstream carb service once you have the rest sorted. The carbs are really robust.

  • @davidvines6498

    @davidvines6498

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danielraible I have to get a plastic gas tank. The inside of the Tractors tank is nasty. So nasty it will not let fuel into the bowl. I have to remove the tank to clean it out. I liked to never figure out how to get the cowling off

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    @@davidvines6498 Yes, if the tank is that bad, then getting a carb rebuild kit would be wise.

  • @davidvines6498

    @davidvines6498

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danielraible I’m going to get a new tank and carb kit. After I try cleaning the tank first. Or I’ll clean it and sell it

  • @user-wn3zi9kq5f
    @user-wn3zi9kq5fАй бұрын

    How much was the pump?

  • @claesmansson9070
    @claesmansson9070 Жыл бұрын

    Yeah better do something about it on my MF 2640 outside hy.pump no steering and another type of pump on the 9240 instead of that expensive gerotor type,thank you.

  • @user-qp4mn4cy2i
    @user-qp4mn4cy2i4 ай бұрын

    Where did you obtain that hydro bpump kit ?

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    3 ай бұрын

    Windy Ridge Farm and Machine: windyridgefarm.us/WindyRidgeMachine.php

  • @allenmoore4400
    @allenmoore4400 Жыл бұрын

    Where did you get the pump kit from ?

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    windyridgefarm.us/WindyRidgeMachine.php

  • @user-ku3jw7ux2b
    @user-ku3jw7ux2b2 ай бұрын

    Why didn't you take the line off to cut it instead of using a little hand hack saw and trying to clean the burrs underneath.

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    2 ай бұрын

    A good point. Since this was my first time working on a hydraulic system, I wanted to disassemble as little as possible. There are many ways of accomplishing this job.

  • @tiiagoalvesz
    @tiiagoalvesz Жыл бұрын

    how will they adapt the gear pump on the bent shaft of the old model? I'm from Brazil

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    For the older tractors, with the front distributor location there is a different kit on their website.

  • @tiiagoalvesz

    @tiiagoalvesz

    Жыл бұрын

    could you send me the website link

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tiiagoalvesz This is his main site: windyridgefarm.us/WindyRidgeFarm.php

  • @tiiagoalvesz

    @tiiagoalvesz

    Жыл бұрын

    did you have to change the type of oil to a specific oil for gear pumps?

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    @@tiiagoalvesz No, I did take the time to purge out the older oil, and replaced with Universal Tractor Fluid (UTF), so nothing special.

  • @MrDdaland
    @MrDdaland2 жыл бұрын

    So, the question is, where do you see the main advantages of this mod?

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    2 жыл бұрын

    For me, I wanted a modern-style pump with a fixed displacement to extend the longevity of the tractor. If you are concerned with originality it would probably be best to try to rebuild the vintage pump, assuming you can find parts and have the know-how. For me, I wanted to get the machine back into service with modern parts for dependability.

  • @MrDdaland

    @MrDdaland

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@danielraible You may not know- fair enough, but since this flows about 2x the OEM pump will it be able to run a FEL and/or Remote Hydraulics?

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@MrDdaland This is a good question, and I do not know. Windy Ridge mentioned they are developing a remote hydraulic kit, and I am VERY interested in that so I can run an actuated top link - so my hope is the pump could handle both that and the lift arms at the same time. If/when that kit is released I will certainly try it out and share the results.

  • @TEXANConnection

    @TEXANConnection

    Жыл бұрын

    @@MrDdaland i have a remote cyl kit on mine with the old pump. works fine. I got the adapter plate on etsy.

  • @TEXANConnection

    @TEXANConnection

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danielraible i have a remote cyl kit on mine with the old pump. works fine. I got the adapter plate on etsy.

  • @lesterhersh7184
    @lesterhersh7184 Жыл бұрын

    Does thus work on 9n ??

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    The is a separate kit for the 9n, but it looks like the owner of the company is ill so not producing them right now.

  • @ChristianAycock
    @ChristianAycock2 жыл бұрын

    Are they hydraulics any stronger, or faster?

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    2 жыл бұрын

    I'd say they move about the same with my heaviest implement, which is a 600 lb box scraper. The important thing is the tractor doesn't run through oil anymore.

  • @arthurpharmer5476
    @arthurpharmer5476 Жыл бұрын

    Where can I fine this up grade pump at

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    The link is up in the video description.

  • @damienradford

    @damienradford

    Жыл бұрын

    @@danielraible Looks like Windy Ridge Farm stopped taking orders due to illness. That's a shame. Wishing them the best and a quick recovery.

  • @robmurphy806
    @robmurphy806 Жыл бұрын

    Does anyone else offer this kit? Windy Ridge doesn't anymore.

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    Yes, unfortunately it seems the owner is ill right now, so currently not taking new orders. The real key to his kit was the adapter between the proofmeter housing and the new pump, if you could find someone to machine it: www.yesterdaystractors.com/cgi-bin/viewit.cgi?bd=nboard&th=908875 Also J&D Prodicutions, Inc. and WaltsTractors will rebuild old pumps. I would suggest contacting both to see if they would start offering a similar conversion package.

  • @lsj624
    @lsj624 Жыл бұрын

    GPM rating?

  • @danielraible

    @danielraible

    Жыл бұрын

    6.7 GPM @ 2000 engine RPM

  • @ghulabkhan762
    @ghulabkhan7622 жыл бұрын

    Good morning

  • @tommyparker6840
    @tommyparker684010 ай бұрын

    On my 2000 Ford selectshift I was hooked to my boots are I'll pick you up when out and mow a little bit I when I got ready to come back in about an hour I went to lift a bush hog up and nothing happened it did not even try to pick up up until 9 picking up fine completely quit all at once

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