At least by including the families on board, you save on cost on survivor benefits if it all goes sideways.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

LOL How pragmatic of you LOL

@WollyEZ-110

11 ай бұрын

A very Vulcan idea lmao

@TheCrazyMoparDude68

11 ай бұрын

Wouldn’t be a need for survivor benefits, they don’t use a monetary system in the Star Trek future.

@Lucofthewind

11 ай бұрын

I mean.... Not wrong

@ilesalmo7724

11 ай бұрын

​@@WollyEZ-110 More like a Ferengi idea

Honestly, I feel like this, and the early 25th century is the best eras of starfleet. Had the dominion war and wolf 359 not have happened, starfleet would probably have vast beautiful ships meant for exploration and science. Maybe even cruise ships. I truely do love the amount of passion and beauty they put into these ships. These ships are nice to look at it, and feel honestly welcoming, aswell as big and majestic

Challenger class was on Rikers mind when he said "USS LOLLIPOP"

As a ship lover from most science fiction, I especially love oddball designs, like the Challenger and Freedom classes!

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

You and me both!

I love this thing. Sitting still, it look terrible from nearly every single angle. But when it's moving, it's always gorgeous! And just think of the arcs of those phaser strips!

Thought this ship was so ugly when I was younger, but I've grown to really like it. It sits proudly with my Eaglemoss models. I always thought of the Challenger class as a sort of fast evacuation or large fast transport vessel. Great background here and great video.

I can totally see a market for these as cruise ships or passenger liners. A purpose built passenger vessel might not look too dissimilar.

I've really loved the aesthetic of the TNG/ Project Galaxy ships. They've got this certain elegance to their curves that you don't really see in any other era of Star Trek.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Huge fan if Starship Lineage Here ;)

@jimb8601

11 ай бұрын

Fully agree though the Galaxy class will always be my favorite design from this era.

@wadewilson6628

11 ай бұрын

You mean they’re fat. 😂 They always remind me of the decadent period of Star Trek. When Star Fleet got pretentious, holier than thou, and lazy. The lean mean Constitution, Miranda, and associates where when design was at its height. No flying apartment complex, just the tools to get the job done.

Thanks for using my model! Great video!

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

There you are! Ive been trying to find you on Twitter (X) FB and by smoke signal! Im the one who put a lot of your ships in to Space Engine (Though a lot of them are still in a queue to be added lol) And I love your work! You're an excellent model maker and Id like to add links etc for people to check you out! And PS, hope I said your name right!

🖖😎👍Very cool and very nicely well done and very well executed and informatively explained in every detail way shape and form possibly provided indeed, And the Challenger Class is a very interesting design class of Starship's in its very own unique style and way indeed!,👌.

I personally have a soft spot for the Challenger. During a behind the scenes episode, it was revealed that model makers used the conning tower of a Typhoon class submarine as the warp pylons. They showed a close up of the part, and I recognized that conning tower belonging to the Red October, which I had at the time. I recognized the brick style details along the hull and the periscope openings. I kept the Red October long into my 20s (discarded it in 2008, have no idea where). Perhaps a lame attachment, but I love it all the same... also remember the Challenger disaster of 86, so lots of nostalgia swirling with this ship.

Fantastic as always. I look forward to these each week. 🖖

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Thank you SO much :)

Not bad...not bad @ all! One of my favorites 👍🖖🙏😇.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Niice!

The narrator has such a soothing voice!

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

6 ай бұрын

Thank you so much :)

Woot woot new episode!

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

Nice! Always enjoy your narratives!

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Glad you like them! :) Thanks :)

It's fantastic. I really like the design. Thank you for this video.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Glad you like it! Thank you SO much :)

Love this ship design.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

I didnt like it at all, until I got a chance to play with it! Although still not my favourite design, now I love it too :)

@jjo8277

11 ай бұрын

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics I would think like the freedom class that it would be quite maneuverable. And upgrade it with the auto separate and it was powerful.

I think it's great that your covering more of the nonhero ships lately it's great to see the more standard ships of Star fleet 😁😁😁

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Well there are tons more to come :) Thank you :)

I am obsessed with this class! This ship seems like it would make the perfect rapid response, science or long range patrol ship.

sheer hubris is a description i would use for the ships of project galaxy😊

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

7 ай бұрын

Indeed :)

The Ambassador would be an interesting one to do a video on in the series but enjoying these retrospective look videos

That was one thing that always bothered me about STTNG that here is this huge Galaxy class Star ship with over 1000 people on board with families etcetera suggesting these ships are out there exploring deep space away from the home quadrant and yet we never heard of them doing that. Instead a ship like the Enterprise stays pretty close to home doing boring supply runs or mapping a star cluster not that far away. It was just lazy story telling, it wasn’t until Voyager which was by accident and DS9 and the wormhole to the game quadrant that a star ship and crew really had to show it’s true potential and initiative.

I see this class as a colony ship. It seems like it would do good transporting people and help establishing a colony.

Just imagine having your quarters next to main engineering

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

LOL Everyday :P

@james8449100

11 ай бұрын

Not as bad as the steam runner

@charlestaylor253

11 ай бұрын

I would point out the Oberth class, but having your quarters next to Main Engineering on one of those is the LEAST of your problems...😉

This is a shop I would like to see come to Star Trek online. We need more background canon ships in the game lol

I kinda like it, im just happy it got a video

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Thank you, I try to do videos on all classes, including those that often get overlooked by other channels :)

@ilpoomatili9549

11 ай бұрын

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics it's great to have a chanel like you in the community

another ship that shows little love and attention. i love your videos. there was another ship of this design from the TMP era, depending on sources, called either the Akula class or Apollo class. both are from star trek games in the beta canon resources. nacelle on top and bottom design is very different and beautiful design. would love to see a video on these ship classes.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Oh thank you so much! I love making videos on these little gems! And I would love to make an Akula Class video, if I ever find a 3d Model of it! :)

Another cool video:)

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Thank you 🤗

I always wanted a ship class that could dock with the saucer sections of ships that could separate so that they could be reused or replaced if damaged

This is a ship that has grown on me over the years

Cute ship.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Indeed :)

Until you created this episode I never cared for this design. However looking at the phaser coverage and the three shuttle bays it has alot of potential. I could also see this as a testbed for the future arrangement for the Intrepid class engines as these engines, though mounted above and below, also also lack line of sight from each other.

I am thinking the refit was probably actually implementation of the galaxy class auto docking system as intended. It's a pity they didn't do it since it could have provided data for the multi vector attack system. Who knows maybe one was refitted for that classes development.

My models of these little ships are pride of place got to say. The ones that have models anyway

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Same here :)

Love the videos on Project Galaxy you, is there any other ships from this era of Starfleet do you have planed for the year?

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

;) Yes I do! :)

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one! Challanger class gang, rise up 😎

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

You know it! Lol

I really like all these TNG era Kit bash ships. There is a certain style to them and I have a particular appreciation for the smaller ships like this one: the challenger class, new orleans or the cheyenne class. Of course, the galaxy class is still king. I actually bought the Challenger eaglemoss one not so long ago. Awesome video as you usual! Keep up the good work! LLAP 🖖

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Thank you SO much! I love the Project Galaxy Class Starship lineage as well :)

I like how Starfleet keeps using the names of the old space shuttles for starships. The NX-03, the prototype for the Challenger-class, and last but not least, the Galaxy-class U.S.S. Challenger NCC-71099. It's just one of those famous names that keeps on giving. 🖖😎👍

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Honoring the past, while still moving forward ;)

300 officers and crew + others. maybe light on the guns. but it would make a great behind the lines support ship. i like it. i want one

What kind of starship is that at 1:56? It kind of looks like a mix between the Galaxy & the ambassador

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

It's the Niagara Class ;) And a video on it will be released on Monday :)

Think you could weave together a narrative for the USS Alka-Selsior Class? It's one of my favorites and it's technically an alpha canon design 🤔

Have you done a video on the Curry class?

One thing that is bothering about this class is where would the warp core be ejected from?

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Thats a good question, though I wonder in this design, if the core is Horizontal and gets kicked out the back?

@HeadlessChickenTO

11 ай бұрын

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Maybe a modified vertical warp core that runs horizontally.

Very nice Episode. I have enjoy. I have make a one Challenger Class she based on the Sovereign class

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Niice! I didn't know you made starships :)

@dominik8005

11 ай бұрын

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics yes Made . Darwing With Paint

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Very cool! :)

@dominik8005

11 ай бұрын

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Thank you very much

What about the USs challenger A galaxy class from the books

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Came along AFTER the USS Challenger from this class was destroyed!

Any news on your other series ?

👍🏼

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

😁

tiny little lollipop

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

LOL

Any chance for the hestia or hydra class?

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

From STO? Yes one Day!

My little head cannon is that Stacked nacelle designs are from federation species shipbuilding traditions. Similar to how Tellarites have embedded nacelles that show up in the steamrunner or magee class.

This is the ship we need now in Star Trek Online; unique engineering with a firm grasp on it's nacelles, so it doesn't fly apart like 32nd c.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

32c ships dont "fly" apart lol

I used to think that the Federation getting too complacent with regards to their defensive preparations after being at peace for a while a bit far fetched. Now, with how the various NATO powers were caught flat-footed with regards to the war in Ukraine I know better.

With the galaxy and nebula class being the example of ships of a multi mission type, star fleet needed single missions ships of three type 1 ships that were purposed built for a specific mission 2 ships with a large amount of its internal space able to be swapped out for mission specific equipment 3 ships in the middle that could change between a couple of different missions by having just a portion of its equipment and personnel replaced

Primitus

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

?

There's a fan-made starship design that i really liked, called the: "Star Knight-class" it's hull looked like the love-child of the prometheous-class and intrepid-class. It's most destinctive design feature was her warp engine. Instead of the traditional two nacelle engine pylons, the warp engine was a oval-shaped hoop that was horizontally mounted in place where the traditional nacelles would be. The ship class was built around the time of the nemesis movie, given the type destinction of an "enhanced-deterant cruiser" euthemism like the defiant-class being an "escort".

Looking like a passenger ship gone wrong. Someone on the design team was high.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Awwwww boooo Wendy, Booooooo! :P

Where is the Navigational Deflector in all these kit-bash ships? Been a conundrum since the Miranda-class.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Thats explained in the video!

During the refit of the fleet after 2367 why did someone at starfleet ship buulding oerations not slap torpedeo pod or a phaser array pod on each of challenger class warp nacelle. Ps even enterpise had warp nacelle extra phaser banks added to the top of the warp nacelle after wolf 359. And later galaxy class uss uss venture came stanard with tuewarp nacelle phaser array pod

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

5 ай бұрын

Because it was determined that decommissioning these weak classes was the smarter and easier thing to do, then refit them!

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@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

:)

Can you talk about 32nd century ships please

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Ive already done a few, and more to come!

Isn't there a Buran class?

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Yes there is, in the 25th Century!

The Galaxy Class was the Constitution of the 2380s now that I think about it so like the connie alot of ships such as nebula new Orleans and the challenger all followed the galaxy lol

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Not in this case, the Galaxy Class was the last Starship of the "Project Galaxy" Classes launched!

@zyu09

11 ай бұрын

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics true lol forgot that part

Most Federation ships are ugly. Romulan, Klingon, Cardassian, Ferengi, etc. were sleek and appealing. Federation ships looked like mutant blow-dryers. The Defiant being an exception.

No escape pods ?

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Sure it does! Just of a different type, behind blow away panels common to starships of an earlier time!

Where is the deflector dish??

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Thats explained in the video!

I find it interesting that the Challenger class was such a 'failure', since in case of war, the 'civilian' sector of the ship could easily be converted to carry troops. And with the installation of 'barracks' style accommodations, probably at least double or even triple the number of such 'non crew' personnel could be carried.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Sorry, where did anyone say it was such a failure? Lets start with that...

To me, the Challenger-class was the TNG-ified version of the TMP Ayakazi-class...

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

I think you mean the Akula Class, as the Akyazi Class looks nothing like this...

@ServantOfOdin

11 ай бұрын

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Oh shoot, yes. I mixed them up, sorry. But you got what I meant nonetheless. :)

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Yes, im a slave to starship design and its lore, been like that for 4 decades :) Ive done a video on the Akyazi Class and if I can find a 3d model of the Akula, Ill definitely be making a video on it!

If the first ship of a class is named after the class, that makes Capt. La Forge's Galaxy class a Challenger B doesn't it?

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Not in Trek! Often times starships are simply given a new reg Numbers and the name moves on without a Dash Letter!

The ship looks good...but i thought a rule was that the nacelles needed to "see" each other cause of the radiation emitted between them would be very dangerous.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Nope, no such rule as canon has proven time and time again!

@antipattern0

11 ай бұрын

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics wow thanks for the reply...maybe it was my head cannon trying to explain why Voyager folded up its nacelles.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

No problem, and the variable geometry warp drive, used in Voyager was so the class didn't harm subspace as seen in the TNG Episode Force of Nature :)

@antipattern0

11 ай бұрын

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics Thanks for clearing that up...not a fan of that episode.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

No problem :)

This is a canon ship? I thought it was a fan design, because according to Roddenberry's nacelle rules this ship would kill everybody on board.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Yes this ship is Canon, and there is no such rule in Trek. Though Roddenberry attempted to create it, breaking it himself multiple times throughout Trek, this rule is really just a myth! And PS Roddenberry himself signed off on this design!

@michaelhughes7718

11 ай бұрын

@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics 👍 I just thought the creators of TNG were just being a bit fly with the rules. Thinking how the Federation likes to kitbash things, this explains why they have the ship shapes they do, for convenience, ease of repair and production line ship parts. Great, I'm now mentally comparing federation ships to gummi ships.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

LOL Nope, Canon and Gene Approved!

Star Trek Online expanded brilliantly on this design with the Atlantis Class. Would love your opinion!(And some visuals!)

Looks like the nacelles are attached the wrong way

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

What do you mean?

Well you don't really know how something is going to work as you say it will till you test it. This was just one that didn't work out. But don't look at it as a failure. Look at it as finding out how NOT to do something. Because there were still good things about this ship they used on the GALAXY CLASS.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

So in other words, a complete failure :P Although, no one but you have called it a failure :P

As much as I hate the look of it, it's modular design should have been utilized more. Could have been another long-lived workhorse

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

All the "could have" beens ;)

No deflector. Makes no sense.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Not only does it make sense, but is canon and explained in this video! Just like the Miranda, Centaur, Constellation classes etc!

@M3e36-99

11 ай бұрын

​@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics true it is canon but it is an inconsistency I don't like about Star Trek. Alien ships don't have them either.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

Well you're more than welcome to not like it, but it isnt inconsistent as there are MANY starship designs that dont have a deflector dish in Trek!

@M3e36-99

11 ай бұрын

​@@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics it is having consistent science that makes science fiction more believable regardless what they make up. Doubt erodes immersion.

@TriAngulumStudiosAudioComics

11 ай бұрын

But it IS consistent! As there are starships WITH a deflector and Starships WITHOUT a Deflector... Just like there are planes with Jet Engines and Planes with Propellers, or Trucks with 4 Wheels or with 6, or 8... It's still consistent, with NO doubt. as there are just simply more then one way of achieving the same result!

i like what you are doing you help me know the ships