1900s Pedal Metal Lathe [Restoration]
Тәжірибелік нұсқаулар және стиль
This restoration is on an early 1900s W.F. and John Barnes Co. No. 5 velocipede screw lathe. James from the @Wood By Wright KZread channel came to my shop with two of these lathes; one for me and one for him. We both absolutely love the look of this lathe and he plans on using his frequently in his workshop.
The lathes were missing many parts and James had them re-cast while I did the machining on them. The lathes were both is better than expected condition for being over 100 years old. I decided to paint mine black which was consistent with the original japanning used for a finish on this lathe. If I had sorted out my cold-cure japanning recipe, then I would have loved to do japanning on this restoration. We only had three days together, so after we put primer on the parts, James had to leave.
James kept the only 3-jaw chuck, as he plans on using the lathe on a regular basis, so I had to do some test cuts using the old drill chuck. This was a poor choice and the cut quality was horrendous. Pedalling the lathe is actually pretty fun for about 25 seconds until you start cutting and you have to start pedalling with some serious force. This lathe could easily be converted to an electric powered one and it would make a pretty nice 11" lathe.
I am not sure what to do with the lathe now as I really won't use this over my other metal lathe!
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So much fun! This was a blast to work with you on this project! Now... Lets Race!
@sheep1ewe
4 жыл бұрын
It's realy awsome that You could participate in this collaboration!
@douglasmason4761
4 жыл бұрын
Love the interplay between you and @HTR. Immediate subscribe to your channel, fine sir. Now...let's see what you have in orange.
@davidrosenberg2580
4 жыл бұрын
Wood By Wright I hope “Hand Tool Rescue” gets this message. The reason that his lathe isn’t cutting correctly is that one of the jaws on his chuck was installed off by a tooth.
@ianallen2
4 жыл бұрын
@@davidrosenberg2580 I noticed this too.
@jeremiefaucher-goulet3365
4 жыл бұрын
Just don't bring orange paint next time ;)
I’m pretty impressed that someone still has the original patterns for a lathe made in 1880.
"Never skip lathe day" This is why I watch your channel, you're like a big kid but with brains and toilet trained
@BABALOOEY46
2 жыл бұрын
How do we know?
@adamdolch9053
2 жыл бұрын
I had a very audible chortle at this caption
@zachaliles
Жыл бұрын
We've never seen him use the toilet though.
Incredible original craftsmanship on that lathe! I'm 74, and my dad and grandfather were both machinists, grand-dad being born in 1885, dad in 1906. I grew up in machine shops, watching my dad work his skills as a union machinist. I still have a complete 12" inside micrometer set, and 1" outside micrometer that he scratch fabricated for his apprenticeship! He could fabricate just about anything! I learned a lot from him!
"You can have it in any colour you want, so long as it is black."
@archloy
2 жыл бұрын
You can also choose any primer color you want without restriction :)
@Springfield-1903
Жыл бұрын
Henry Ford
@the_icon_of_sin_94
Жыл бұрын
-Henry Ford
The double head to the sandblasting cabinet was amazing
@WoodByWright
4 жыл бұрын
that shot was a must!
@ericstoever9577
4 жыл бұрын
Laughed so loud I scared the dog!
@codemonkey2k5
4 жыл бұрын
Legitimate LOL!
@johnpeters9175
4 жыл бұрын
Even though I was entirely expecting it I was hilariously surprised. If that makes any sense.
@i.bcraftsman5977
4 жыл бұрын
13:17
the crocs-n-socks immediately followed by "You also have to pedal backwards" was a one-two punch that knocked me out cold
@Ovi-305
2 жыл бұрын
Did you notice he had metal plates on the Crocs. They're Steel Toe Crocs!!
Your co worker seems to know your next move, you both work very well with each other. How in hell do you remember were everything goes. I would have parts left over. Love you guys. Great Job.
As a former machinist, I found this very interesting. When I started out, lathes were not much different than this, except they were powered by electric motors. I hated it when everything became computer controlled. I still use one that has a treadle like an old sewing machine.
@robertmyers5993
8 күн бұрын
Yeah, I like the older lathes best as well. I'm pretty sure that welded extension onto the big drive wheel was for a motor hookup.
13:18. Somehow, I was waiting for and almost expected that double head drop. 🤣🤣🤣
@WoodByWright
4 жыл бұрын
That was a must!
@powder749
4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright, indeed. I suppose I somewhat misspoke. Should have said I DEMANDED that double head drop! By the way, your subscription counter is +1 now. 😉
@CraigH999
4 жыл бұрын
When the door closed on the sandblasting cabinet I was gleefully anticipating the **thunk** of a forehead immediately after. How awesome that it was a double **thunk**! Also - tossing @Wood by Wright, out the door for painting that seat orange - hilarious. Myself, I would have painted it red...
@themig292003
4 жыл бұрын
Waiting for a drop, Not expecting the double. :D
@phillipnewton8910
4 жыл бұрын
Aaawww he made a friend. :)
Never used a wrench in my life. That made me smile ☺️🔧
You have no idea how much this calms my depression and anxiety. I've fallen asleep to this at least 3 times. Going to attempt to finish this again tomorrow but subbing this time! The sound of clinking and clanking while cleaning parts without the annoying background music like most videos makes this one of my top go to videos now. Thanks for your effort. Incredible attention to detail in my opinion.
Dang! You two got ten times the work I do in a month done and you were just lathing about the shop! Excellent restoration work on those beautiful, old, and surprisingly-well-maintained manual machining tools!
Holy shit having two people with similar energy is amazing, when they both faceplanted the media blasting window I couldnt breathe
This is not a tool. This is art. Thank you.
The opening is great. Love this channel. I wish I could still do stuff like this. But it's almost as good watching a good craftsman do their work. When I first started mechanicing, another more experienced mechanic told me that anyone could replace parts but a real mechanic could repair the same part. You sir are a real mechanic.
@taknmybeatings7036
2 жыл бұрын
....ALMOST
Steel-toed Crocs'n'Socks needs a credit too.
@jeffs7944
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, nice lathe, pathetic footwear.
8:15 Mmmmm. Pre-war Nutella. A fine vintage.
@HandToolRescue
4 жыл бұрын
Only the finest.
@budmeister
4 жыл бұрын
@@HandToolRescue Todd Abbott down below said that you messed up assembling the chuck.
@gorillaau
4 жыл бұрын
But which war are you referring to?
If you want to understand how a metal lathe works watch this video. They don't get much simpler than this. Great old tredal lathe. I had a 13 inch Southbend that was from around 1913 I believe. Was a sweet looking machine after mechanical restoration.
Absolutely love this. So many amazing restorations but this is one of my favorites. Never seen a foot powered machinist lathe before.
Where is the garbage on the floor?It was my favorite character!
@HandToolRescue
4 жыл бұрын
Wood by Wright was right there!
@MorseB
4 жыл бұрын
I just can't believe excessively flammable workbench never gets a mention.
@73twall
4 жыл бұрын
@@MorseB If that thing ever lit off, I wonder how many days the embers would smolder. ;)
@coolnoah8183
4 жыл бұрын
@@HandToolRescue Ice cold
@WoodByWright
4 жыл бұрын
I was a stand-in for him today!
I will never tire of this intro, makes me laugh every time!
There;s some serious engineering that went into that lathe. Seriously impressed by the origianl builders. Good job on restoration.
@jaysonstinson9458
11 ай бұрын
hmm all the machines and tools on this channel and other things like the steam engine and automobile and so much more.. hmm i wonder who invented/designed/created all of these things and i wonder what all of those men had in common with one another...
This pretty cool. You've put in a lot of time building up to this restoration. Really nice work
It’s pretty amazing to think what the old timers built with stuff like that, and accurate too! Nicely done!
This is hands down one of the best restoration channels there has ever been on KZread, or anywhere on the web for that matter. Your videos are so satisfying. Everything is shot really nicely and you got a nice sense of humor and know how to put it into the video tastefully. Nutella/10. Thanks for making this kind of content!
@HandToolRescue
4 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!
@mercuryrising9174
4 жыл бұрын
@@HandToolRescue plot twist. None of the machined surface's were compatable. Between the 2 lathes. Confusion breaks out...... TO BE CONTINUED???
@WoodByWright
4 жыл бұрын
@@mercuryrising9174 lol most of the parts were not compatible. we soon realized they needed to be kept separate.
@mercuryrising9174
4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright right i figured not. Given the age of the lathes. Ide guess they were made exclusive to its own fitment. Which is amazing the smooth surfaces were so nice
@if66was99
4 жыл бұрын
@@mercuryrising9174 I am amazed at the condition of EVERY piece of machinery and nut and bolt and oiled bearings and on and on! The amount of engineering in (patented 1880) and the amount of machining to make every part... to perfection. My jaw is dropped watching this restoration.
I really like to watch you restore stuff because it's cool plus you are keeping history alive.. now a days with all the computer controlled equipment it is nice to be able to see how they kicked it old school literally.. thanks for your work..
When I was starting in apprenticeship as Tool and Die one of the first things i done was tore down a US NAVY surplus WARREN & SWASSEY TURRET LATHE and rebuilt it from cannibalized parts from two others. So seeing all of these old parts refitted puts a well worn spot on my old heart. Oh and what's wrong with the Orange and Black motif. Could always say it was from the, Davidson Bros Cycle Works.
Enjoyed this one. It's amazing how much work went into building a machine like this back in the day. Great job on the restoration. 👍👍
You commented on how off the brass was centered. I believe when you reassembled the jaws in the chuck that one jaw grabbed one thread ahead of the other. This will always throw center off. I may be wrong...
@WouterNederstigt
4 жыл бұрын
I noticed that too, was wondering if he had corrected that with the footage not ending up in the final video, but that may very well cause the off center workpiece holding. Still an amazing restoration!
@NathanielHatley
4 жыл бұрын
I agree, I was about to comment the same thing.
@maj21093
4 жыл бұрын
Agreed. The jaws are definitely not centered on the screw. Easy fix! Great video!
@goldsworthygaming6304
4 жыл бұрын
you are correct
@startreking
4 жыл бұрын
23:38 Your right, you can see the left jaw is a little more inwards than the right one.
This has to be THE best restoration intro EVER. I love it!
That is a thing of beauty. I loved watching you restore it!
So, you're saying that I could exercise while simultaneously crafting a beautiful brass spike that I could jam into my ear to end my suffering? Man that's cool!
Oh My Ass All this antique tools have art in his construction, so beautiful You have the ability to repair it perfectly
@dfbess
4 жыл бұрын
I tell him all the time his work is museum quality..
13:17 What a nice host. Letting his guest going first. A true gentleman !
That petal lathe is absolutely amazing look how far we've came. Thanks for the video plz takecare
13:15 that double head thwap was very much appreciated. I burst out with a very loud laugh in the walk-in clinic!
WAIT A SECOND, I HAVE THE TOP PART OF THIS LATHE! I'm missing a fair few bits but I have always planned to restore it. Wow, now I know what to aim for
People back 100 years or more were heartier people because of the backbreaking work that had to be done with pre-motorized equipment. Unless you had a waterwheel handy. Wonderful piece of history. I am glad you decided to restore it to its former glory.
I dont know how many of your restorations I've watched, a lot of them for sure. This might be my favorite for what you're restoring.
You both did such a nice work, well done 👏. Love it 😆
Man I would love to have one of those lathes. Treaddle powered tools are awesome in my book. Its nice being able to use them when there is no power. Which seems to always been when I need to use a bunch of tools and make parts the most. (and I am usually under a time crunch)
I in joy watching your video's I'm in my mid 50s and it seems so nice to see all of your work. NICE Thank you Linda
"Orange?" And stay out! Thank you sir. To see this fine lady slot together as she should be makes my heart glad.
Learn something new every time I watch - never really thought laths were use way back in 1880's, not peddled one at least. Fascinating rework on this piece of history. Outstanding project.
@filmbluff99
4 жыл бұрын
evil brat . Prior to that pole lathes were used for wood turning. The earliest representation of a Woodturning lathe is about 300 BC in an Egyptian tomb. However it is probable that some form of woodturning lathe or equipment goes back to around 3000 BC.
13:18 OMG thank you for that! I have to mop coffee up off the keyboard and monitor, but they are used to that now.
@dsloop3907
4 жыл бұрын
Douglas Mason--I have a plastic keyboard cover, just lift it off and rinse and dry.
@WoodByWright
4 жыл бұрын
LOL that shot was a must!
I was getting excited over the upcoming thump, only to get a double thump on the sandblaster. You, sir, have made my week.
They don't make machines like this any more, but you can see the art in their craftsmanship. Today's tools have a more utilitarian value. What you have accomplished is the restoration of a work of art.
"I have never used a Wrench in my life." *grabs the personalized metal grabby thingie that helps to remove nuts and bolts"
@gorillaau
4 жыл бұрын
Nope, no wrench on this channel... We have a shifting spanner though.
@elizabethrobbins8580
4 жыл бұрын
Hammer works just as well
@hannanhannan177
4 жыл бұрын
ؤ ,
@LeglessWonder
4 жыл бұрын
@@TheJdeft1 why is that?
@thomaslemay8817
3 жыл бұрын
@@LeglessWonder simply you don't need to be able to count or read numbers to use it . This is true of adjustable wrenches pliers and hammers.
"Never Skip Lathe Day" That's T-Shirt Money written all over it lol
@marie-evegagne1830
4 жыл бұрын
With this lathe on the background lol
Wonderful restoration, what helps is that this unit was obviously well preserved, lack of serious corrosion, it wonderful that machines such as this are still around
I have just got my hands on a 1920 drummond lathe made in Guildford Surrey England 🇬🇧. So thank you for this video 😊😊😊😊😊
"Never skip lathe day!" LOL
@numbnutz9398
4 жыл бұрын
You win this thread. Hands down. I actually LOL'd
@masterchaud555
4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha I died when that popped up!
@TravisFloyd
4 жыл бұрын
Dad?
Oh I would love to have one of these just sitting in the shop.
The double faceplant into the Sandblaster viewing window was brilliant, exactly what the doctor ordered!
The machine that transfers your roundness to a metal object. 👍
That is a beautiful machine completely worthy of an amazing restoration. My only concern is that rod propping the seat up. If that cast iron seat breaks your nutella is going to need restoration
@evensgrey
2 жыл бұрын
The entire machine just looks dangerous to me. Well, the days before machine guarding...
@maggs131
2 жыл бұрын
@@evensgrey what guard would make you feel safe?
@evensgrey
2 жыл бұрын
@@maggs131 The usual: Covering gears, belts, and flywheels. You don't normally see those left uncovered on modern machines, for the simple reason that they don't have any need to be exposed when the machine is in normal operation and touching them when the machine is in operation is extremely dangerous.
@maggs131
2 жыл бұрын
@@evensgrey oh yes those are just begging to munch a finger.
@rockerseven
2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same. I wouldn't trust just a single rod to support me lol
You messed up assembling the chuck. You are off by a thread on one side. When you put that ring over it with the two screws in it you can see how off center it is. Just redo it until it looks centered. Also make sure everything is tightened down. That machine is a work of art. I would have gone with a light blue/gray color though and left the seat metal as you butt will wear the paint off over time anyways. Make sure he knows were all the oiling points are and that he oils it regularly, especially the one to the left of the chuck. I would oil that ever 15 minutes as that is where the most pressure will be. It looks like it was either not used much or was taken care of quite well.
@b2gills
4 жыл бұрын
I don't know how anyone could have not noticed that. Especially since they both lined up with the outside ring originally.
@jjskn93
4 жыл бұрын
I thought this was someone taking the piss but you know what he's right! Once you've seen it, it can't be unseen either!
@MrGarycharters
4 жыл бұрын
Rewatched that, and you're on point!
@robinwheatley4476
4 жыл бұрын
Yup, I recon the jaws need swapping to get it centred.
@b2gills
4 жыл бұрын
@@robinwheatley4476 The jaws can't be swapped. One jaw just needs to be started before the other one.
this was a blast to watch you restore this old Lathe , I enjoy old machinist and wood working machine
I have the mechanical prowess of a slug. Watching you disassemble clean, repair and reassemble these things is amazing. I'd have several leftover parts, and the thing not only would not work, it wouldn't be possible to fix, by the time I'd be done with it!
Two lathes?! Wow! I guess one good turner deserves another...
@WoodByWright
4 жыл бұрын
Oh that is a good one!
13:16 Nearly spat out my drink, thanks! :'D
Wow quality upload as usual. So nice to see these restorations instead the typical "vice restorations" over and over
Love the intro. Thanks for the walk through memories of the past 😊
First off, although I appreciate what this is and would definitely want one this looks about on par or worse than taking apart and putting back together a helicopter! Second, thinking about the precision of this machine to make this back in the day reminds me of the old saying "which came first, the chicken or the egg?" Because someone would need a machine like this to make machine *like this* To this day I am still astounded by the industrial revolution. Thank you for this video I have enjoyed watching.
@katemoon7476
2 жыл бұрын
Go check out the Gingery lathe. He spent 20 years answering that question.
@bilbo_gamers6417
2 жыл бұрын
The first machining instrument was the surface plate, and the vernier scale. You can produce a perfectly flat surface. From there, you can make ways. Gears can be made by producing a very large dividing plate and cutting the teeth by hand. Screws can be cut from a lathe, yes, but they can be cut with a threading die that you can produce much easier. The very high precision screws can be made by doing mathematical calculations about pitch over distance, and trying to make a screw very close to a mathematical model over a great length (for example, exactly 100 turns over 10 inches). From there, you can copy a screw and magnify its low precision over a large scale to a great degree of precision over a very small scale. This is how micrometers are made. From there, you have the parts to make a lathe. I recommend watching a few videos on the production of a gingery lathe for more information.
Haha when you threw James out for painting the seating orange I died laughing hahaha. Great restore!!
I have no idea how you can put up with what you do flat slotted screws are the bane of my existence.
Your channel is awesome. Ordered one of your wrenches as a gift. It was well received. Excellent work!!!
I always wait for the iconic "sand blasting Head Smash"
Your best video yet plus good editing 🤘
Such a beautiful machine and work of art! Amazing machining and forging for turn of the century! After watching the end of the video, this lathe is better to look upon than to use! It is probably better at making toothpicks and clothes pins!!!
When the both of you smack your heads into the blast cabinet I have never laughed so hard at one of your videos!
"Bro nice workout machine where you get it" "The 19th century"
The chuck much like on a modern lathe must be assembled in a certain order and I bet if you swapped it's components around it would be a lot more true
@curtismobilemechanic
4 жыл бұрын
wickedxe I was laughing at that too
@gplusgplus2286
4 жыл бұрын
My first thought; when he was assembling it something was wrong.
@grahamparr4710
4 жыл бұрын
Yes I thought the jaws were not centered.
Awe Inspiring 1880's Lathe. Back then, no airplanes, no cars, no phones in most places. Order for lathe was received by either Telegraph or Pony Express Mail. Imagine the Craftsmanship it took to produce the Lathe....? Then delivered via Steam Train, and Mule powered Wooden Wagon. Great Restoration! It should be in a Trades Museum.
Dude I normally watch engine building stuff and hoonigan related things on youtube but when I'm just tinkering on little thing enjoying a nice glass of whiskey I've always had your channel playing. Alway a joy to watch keep it up man!
@HandToolRescue
4 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks!
Your sponsor got its money's worth today.
"And stay out!" had me laughing so hard, my family looked at me as if i lost it finally.
@HandToolRescue
4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha!
@WoodByWright
4 жыл бұрын
that was so much fun to shoot!
@user-neo71665
4 жыл бұрын
@@WoodByWright Make sure to post a pic in your shop with an orange seat, lmao
Fantastic work gentlemen. Incredible to think that they cast, machined and fit the major components to operate with such tolerances.
So many hours, blood, sweat and nutella! And was it worth it? Yes! Every single second! Danke und viele Grüße aus Berlin!
Using a doily as a rag, why do I find that so amusing😂
i started at 85 views and there were 3,353 when I finished. Great job
Really nice lathes restoration. Thank you for taking time to film, edit and post this video.
I love watching your videos because during the disassembly process I can look at every piece and know its gonna a nice long evaporust bath. Lol
13:17 omg I spilled my Rockstar Energy all over my desk! i didn't predict this
Only one thing would improve this: an orange seat.
@chrismayer3919
4 жыл бұрын
I concur; that colour choice was NOT good! Also, the single support strut under the seat needs to be swapped out for at LEAST a 15-degree split-fold rod, or better yet, a heavy pipe with attached platform foot. (for improved seat support)
@boredfartless4221
4 жыл бұрын
James had to leave
@heru-deshet359
3 жыл бұрын
Stereo speakers.
@DeepPastry
3 жыл бұрын
That and the pedal bar bushings... And the most important bit, the pinstriping. Which could match that orange if you switched from red to orange pinstripe (Keith Rucker just repaired the hanger arm and added retainer ring to the bushings.). EDIT: On another one of these lathes, not this one... ie, no pinstriping. Oh, and no bushings.
It's beautifully engineered and your restoration was sympathetically done.
Last year I picked up a WF Barnes #6 in pretty good shape. It already had a decent grey paint job and a motor mount somebody long ago built out of whatever was laying around. The machine has its quirks, but I've done a few simple jobs on it very effectively in metal and wood.
I wonder if that welded piece was to connect a motor later on instead of having to pedal.
@The_HillPeople
4 жыл бұрын
That is my thought as well.
@chrismayer3919
4 жыл бұрын
FWIW, in the industrial age at the turn of the century, that machine would likely have been found inside a factory, connected to a belt drive system and powered by a gigantic steam engine. That setup (producing WAY more torque) would likely have necessitated the wheel being welded to the driveshaft.
@The_HillPeople
4 жыл бұрын
No, I think that was a total afterthought. If it's going in a drive line factory, why have the pedals in the first place? It looks to me like a small mom and pop shop lathe that somebody later ran off an electric motor. Its a direct connection rather than a drive pulley as far as I could tell.
@chrismayer3919
4 жыл бұрын
@@The_HillPeople Actually, I was implying it started out as a foot controlled tool and then was modified for factory work later on. But HTR saved it nevertheless, so its all good... :-)
ОТЛИЧНАЯ работа! Пять баллов!!! С Уважением из России...
@StaPerRa
4 жыл бұрын
@Процветание и изобилие Согласен! Хоть он морально и устарел, но приделай к нему электродвигатель, вкорячь упорные подшипники в вылы продольки, пеперечки, но на нём можно будет выполнять в гараже некоторые токарные операции. А так... этот станок просто раритет, ценен своим возрастом и комплектностью с сохранностью. По моему, грамотно продав его, можно купить неплохой, настольный токарный станок...
Wow I can’t understand how you know were everything goes great resto I really enjoyed watching you at work on them I also like that you use period tools that you have restored in previous videos great job keep up the great work Thanks Scott from Australia
Simply amazing to see the machine tools from 120+ years ago.
"Please Leave Immediately" lmao 😂😂😂
I’m surprised you didnt say “Sorry!” when you threw Wood By Wright out the door. 🤪
Amazing machine and great work recovering it. I cannot imagine the required vigor to operate this machine one full shift - probably 10 or even 12 hours on six days a week - in the beginning last century...
I can't believe I lived this long not knowing this lathe existed. It's amazing!
13:17 ....LMAO.. I almost choked to death while eating.. I was not expecting that! 🤣
Блин, люди уже 140 лет назад чего-то себе точили на промышленных станках, а я всё ещё только мечтаю о токарном...
@Eg-kq8vn3so5x
4 жыл бұрын
Дружище,ты не один в этом.
@gurugerus
4 жыл бұрын
Ну так покупай! ("Иван Васильевич меняет профессию") 😄
@misha_pankof
4 жыл бұрын
Да.....
@Sonya50000
4 жыл бұрын
Да блин, пока простого болта на нем выточишь, км так 200 накрутишь. Я представляю, как токаря того времени, которые работали на таких станках, ненавидели велосипеды.
@a.v.1859
4 жыл бұрын
@@Sonya50000 Станки не обязательно всегда подключались от педального привода. Делали общий привод на все станки от водяного колеса, лошадь или осёл по кругу ворот крутили, да и паровые машины уже тогда были. Способов было много.
Amazed that you can re-assemble this and have it work!
What a wonderful piece of machinery.... on behalf of mankind, thank you for restoring it to it's prime.