If I had a penny every time Ian featured a French rifle with sword for a bayonet, I'd have two pennies. Which isn't much , but it's weird it happened twice.

@wesleyjohnson3786

3 жыл бұрын

It’s enough for you to give your two cents

@warriorwolf77

3 жыл бұрын

If I had a penny every time Ian featured a Japanese weapon with a sword for a bayonet, I'd be able to afford a registered Type 99 LMG.

@mhammer3186

3 жыл бұрын

Most countries seemed to have some sort of sword bayonet. It really went away during WW1, where they were impossibly unwieldy.

@demonprinces17

3 жыл бұрын

@@mhammer3186 lot of countries went into WW2 with them including the US

@ahseaton8353

3 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't that be a sous instead of a penny? Or maybe a franc? Or even a eurocent nowadays?

"cutting edge" "Meter long sword-bayonette" This is accurate

@Kyzrath

3 жыл бұрын

@@WarblesOnALot I think it was a pun on 'cutting' and 'edge', my dude.

@az1p79

3 жыл бұрын

@@WarblesOnALot your name is very fitting

@supersmasha5560

3 жыл бұрын

@@WarblesOnALot Look, I know this is a week old, but this is gold haha. Cheers

It's more like sticking a gun on the back of a sword.

@johnkelinske1449

3 жыл бұрын

It is a sword with a carbine hilt.

Fun fact: on horseback that sword was used as a lance when fixed to the gun (there are paintings of cent-gardes carrying it as a lance).

@toooldfortwowheels2048

3 жыл бұрын

Explains why it's ramrod straight and has an awful grip.

@donjones4719

3 жыл бұрын

@@toooldfortwowheels2048 Yes. The Ian held out that sword I thought - what would scholagladiatoria say about *that* thing.

@lakrids-pibe

3 жыл бұрын

Did they ever use it in action?

@frcgfd107

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenbrown2808 Your ancestor was a member of the cent-gardes? That had to be a b***h to aim and fire with the bayonet attached!

@paulmanson253

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenbrown2808 Oh. Sorry. This is Napoleon III. Not his famous ancestor. This man's reign ended in 1870 after the Prussians trounced the French. He was not a nice man,or a particularly effective monarch and had to flee the country.

I do not have the mustache to carry such a unique weapon system.

@AsbestosMuffins

3 жыл бұрын

or an outrageous french accent!

5'10 or 5'11 (1.80m) was the actual minimum height required to join the "cent-gardes", which was way more than the average height for the time.

Full dress parade with those rifles, with bayonets fixed, must have been a truly impressive sight.

@AsbestosMuffins

3 жыл бұрын

cavalry were some of the last guys to be galloping around in armor too

@drpsionic

3 жыл бұрын

If people could stop laughing long enough.

@ScottKenny1978

3 жыл бұрын

@@drpsionic have you seen how long the bayonets were for the Baker Rifle? 24" blade there, and designed to give the Rifles equal reach to the redcoats Brown Bess.

Impressive to think that only six years later you'd see the Henry repeater making its debut, the 19th Century really was the fastest era in the evolution of firearm technology

@tandemcharge5114

3 жыл бұрын

Fastest era in evolution of most of everything really. It's the same era that had an entire generation see the evolution of navies from sail ships to ironclads to pre-dreadnought battleships

@Hybris51129

3 жыл бұрын

Take a look at the evolution of naval ships during that time. I recommend Drachinifel's video kzread.info/dash/bejne/e4uEt86oh92dl6Q.html A man could have started his naval career at the end of the age of sail and retire right at the eve of the modern battleship depending on circumstance what navy he was a part of.

@halo7oo

3 жыл бұрын

@@0neDoomedSpaceMarine And some Civil War veterans lived to see atomic bombs and fighter jets. So much innovation in just a couple generations.

@dpedd12

3 жыл бұрын

@@halo7oo sure maybe a handful saw all that. But being born in 1845-1850 and living 100 years was exceptionally rare.

@halo7oo

3 жыл бұрын

@@dpedd12 kzread.info/dash/bejne/Y4aE0dumpJawqJc.html Here is a man who saw the lincoln assassination being interviewed in 1956! While very rare, it is still cool to know there were people born before the commercial lightbulb who lived to see jet engines and men in space!

French officer: would you like a gun,sword or a lance sir? Napoleon: yes

This guy looks like he could turn water into french battle rifles

@tranquile8046

3 жыл бұрын

Yes.

Japanese: Nobody does bayonets crazier than us. French: Hold my champagne

@runem5429

3 жыл бұрын

jü meán 'Old..

@kingdarkem

3 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure it be hold my cheese and my wine

@Specter_1125

3 жыл бұрын

@@kingdarkem Champaign is a type of wine

@kingdarkem

3 жыл бұрын

@@Specter_1125 Yes but it's a specific type and not all french people drink Champaign...

@lamia197

3 жыл бұрын

Tiens ma baguette!

Me: a 1 meter bayonet, sounds really long Me after seeing the carbine and the bayonet displayed together: Holy fucking shit

@user-njyzcip

3 жыл бұрын

@@slaughterround643 I'll be shocked if you can explain my shock without using me, shock

@simionusatov8056

3 жыл бұрын

@@slaughterround643 me after seeing your comment: ye

@Wetcorps

3 жыл бұрын

I read the bayonets were originally 25% longer but they had to shorten them becase the cent gardes were required to be tall and would have poked holes in celings.

Awesome. I can imagine Ian's face when he had to give it back...

@Hybris51129

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenbrown2808 Ok Mr.McCollum you know the drill: Empty your pockets please. Out comes dozens of revolvers, a rifle or two, and a endless torrent of 32. Longue spilling out on to the floor.

@VonRammsteyn

3 жыл бұрын

@@kenbrown2808 😂😂😂

@VonRammsteyn

3 жыл бұрын

@@Hybris51129 😂😂😂

"Stick a sword at the end of a gun" Shad approves.

@davidbrennan660

3 жыл бұрын

It would take him longer to say it of course.....check out his channel.

@korbendallas5318

3 жыл бұрын

He would proceed to invent a rifle holster to carry on your back.

@bl4cksp1d3r

3 жыл бұрын

But... what about dragons?

@brittakriep2938

3 жыл бұрын

When in early 18th century, the Jäger units appeared, this had been professional hunters/ Berufsjäger or forest officials/ Förster with their private rifles and their long Hirschfänger knife, but no bayonnet and the Hirschfänger could not be fixed at the rifle. After an incident in ,Seven Years War' Friedrich Ii of Prussian decided, that the Jäger got a Hirschfänger much longer than civilian versions, to fix it at the rifle.

Hi Ian I'm a french reenactor of second french empire. Just a little precision on the cent garde, to be incorporate to the escadron soldier need to be bigger than 1m78 in 1854 (it change to 1m80 in 1856), so it steal a very big and ridiculous fusil baïonnette with is 2m33 long (which was reduce in 1858 to not destroy the top of some palace when they present the weapon to a longer of 2m03) but it's the body guard of the emperor, so they need to impose. Fun fact, it's not possible to find the riffle under 15000€, and the saber are around 2000-3000€, so if someone find one under this price (or a helmet) please tell me because I have the project to reenact a fool cent garde uniforme. I just finish the tenue de ville (city uniforme), I start the tenue de campagne de 1870 ( for 1870 war without cuirasse) and the palace uniforme with the soubreveste (it's like a cuirasse (breastplates) but in fabric). And more generally a big thanks for this type of video on 19 century french weapon. Has a huge fan of second empire it's always a pleasure to see it.

All of these fascinating firearms, Ian. Unfortunately, here in Australia we are only allowed sticks and a rock. And there’s a 10 day waiting period on the rock.

@jackgreen1886

Жыл бұрын

Atleast you are allowed In my country you are not even allowed that lol .

As kid I came across an empty pin fire case, didn’t know what it was and threw it in the trash bin. Today I learned I shouldn’t probably have done that

as a frenchman, hearing you saying "Treuille De Beaulieu" is quite entertaining i must admit

@11Kralle

3 жыл бұрын

[tʁœj də boljø]

@ScottKenny1978

3 жыл бұрын

How badly did he butcher it?

@DC2022

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScottKenny1978 Ian did a pretty good job considering how "r" and "eu" are a pain in the ass to pronounce for english speakers the only real flaw was on Beaulieu he pronounced "Boylou" when he could be pronounced more "Boaleeu" with the u being pronounced like in subtle.

@gaetan4164

3 жыл бұрын

@@ScottKenny1978 I would not understand it if I didn't know it beforehand. A rare occurrence, as Ian is usually pretty good at pronouncing french. 10/10 on the effort though, because that is one hell of a letter salad for a non-native speaker (and learning a foreign language as an adult is way harder than it seems). If you want to hear it, just paste it into Google Translate, the bot says it correctly. edit : he did say it better at the end though

@ScottKenny1978

3 жыл бұрын

@@gaetan4164 yeah, I know how hard learning a language as an adult is, I tried learning Japanese in college...

Should you ever find yourself in Austria, visit the Zeughaus in Graz. They hab ~8000 firearms from 1550-1750. Enough to equip a small army.

@shotforshot5983

3 жыл бұрын

Nice suggestion then!

@SirSaladhead

3 жыл бұрын

I've been there 4 months ago. It is an impressive amount of guns, with some weird specimen sprinkled in there. It was just a shame there was hardly any info on these pieces, just rows and rows of guns/armor with little info.

@LastNightdragon

3 жыл бұрын

@@SirSaladhead well, it was never intended as a museum, but as an armoury. There are guided tours, which give you a little bit more information on the exhibits.

@ThomasfromAustria

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/head/PLGxksaV_y8-jNA0k2xsfRCDVHgKUGSoqC Here is the link of the Landeszeughaus.

@rflameng

3 жыл бұрын

@@SirSaladhead I'm sure Ian could convince them to let him peruse their collection.

For those who asked the question: Total lengh of the rifle is 1.170 meter Total lengh of the bayonet is 1.155 meter, including blade for 1.000 meter. Despite the dangerous aspects of the cartridge, its performances were considered as excellent in terms of speed and penetration (i.e. small caliber plus rather high velocity means high level of energy)

People always act like the shotgun-axe is a new concept, but…

My wife's 1st language is French, she giggles Whenever Ian start speaking French

@martingardener90

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't realize "Treuille de Beaulieu" was something rude !!

If you're interested in seeing what the guards looked like with this rifle, there are sketches of them on the french Wikipedia page of the 100-men imperial guard: fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escadron_des_cent-gardes

@michaels.starnes194

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info

@2adamast

3 жыл бұрын

And with 5'10" Ian is barely tall enough to be a cent-gardes

@brittakriep2938

3 жыл бұрын

Seems a typical palace guard unit, from which before 1789 a large number existed in Versailles.

@lairdcummings9092

3 жыл бұрын

Good find. Yes, they were quite impressive when in full turnout.

@user-bf5sc8pn8x

3 жыл бұрын

I just learned that the French version of wikipedia doesn't ask for donations :|

Best part of the morning. Coffee and Forgotten Weapons!

@bobthompson4319

3 жыл бұрын

Best part if waking up is forgotten weapons in your inbox. Best part of waking up is folgers in your cup.

@matthewhall7976

3 жыл бұрын

I'm partial to tea but have a coffee first every morning, this is one of those coffee times and forgotten weapons videos too..👍❤️👍

@ThomasfromAustria

3 жыл бұрын

For me it is perfect for lunch because it is 1:24 p.m. here in Austria.

@matthewhall7976

3 жыл бұрын

@Ivan swiss hahah, back in the day man, takes me waaay back like a decade..lol

@BrewKatarn

3 жыл бұрын

I was just about to go to bed, 0415 on the west coast, saw this had popped up, decided a little bed time snack and the daily FW lecture before turning in. Now, off to bed. Ah holidays, lol.

“Nah, that’s not a bayonet. THIS is a bayonet.”

"So, are you dragoons, or are you cuirassiers?" "Oui."

@terry7907

3 жыл бұрын

Et, également, nous sommes lanciers.

I really enjoy the fact someone from America has such a great channel, explains the history, how it works so one understands and doesn't seem to assume all his viewers know everything about guns already. Good voice, great pace, very interesting content. And has introduced channels that aren't as an silly European would say "obnoxiously american style" of videos(it's me, i am a silly European). So Thank you for making 2020 bearable, and here's a toast for a better 2021!

@kstreet7438

3 жыл бұрын

But what does him being American have to do with anything? It seems now the European side of the internet hate Americans now.

@patrickseaman

3 жыл бұрын

Rather a lot of Americans, like myself, start their day off, every day, with Ian's patient, calm and informed gift of Forgotten Weapons goodness. His success and strong world-wide following speaks for itself. Here's to a better 2021 to Ian, to you, Sir, and to all of us!

@fromfin90

3 жыл бұрын

@@kstreet7438 an american has access to more guns thanks to their gun toting culture? :-)

@bramveneman

3 жыл бұрын

Don’t disrespect gun jesus yo

I was expecting an imperial lasgun, blessed be the emperor's most holy flashlight.

@REDN0AK

3 жыл бұрын

*Fleshlight* ...Sisters of Battle do not approve

@vertigo4236

3 жыл бұрын

Hello, I'm Magos militant Ianus and today we talk about the forgotten weapons of the Imperial Guard!

That bayonet looks a LOT more than 1 meter long. 🤔

@MERLK2

3 жыл бұрын

Thats what the Empress said. But honestly ... now the Arisaka+Bayonet combination looks not as ridiculous anymore, eh? :D

@timothybayliss6680

3 жыл бұрын

It's a 1 meter edge length. It doesn't include the handle.

@ScottKenny1978

3 жыл бұрын

1m blade, 155mm hilt, 1.155m total length.

@DC2022

3 жыл бұрын

and were shortened by 50mm 4 years laters... to preserve ceiling 😅 (because when a tall guy do the salute with a 2.33m long rifle lance, ceilings die)

@skepticalbadger

3 жыл бұрын

@@DC2022 Evidence for this? I have always assumed it's a myth.

Ian continues to prove he can do no wrong. So much interesting content from his channel. I used to think I knew a lot about firearms and their development... until I found Forgotten Weapons. Ian for curator of all firearms museums in the US!

Arcelin Mousqueton was the other swordonette gun that Ian did a video on a while ago, if you were wondering like me

I'm getting a déjà-vu feel, didn't Ian already review a Napoleonic-era sword with a gun attached, designed for the Cent Gardes ?

@senorwaffelino6127

3 жыл бұрын

kzread.info/dash/bejne/iqmMqLWmmLbFYcY.html

@GigAnonymous

3 жыл бұрын

@@senorwaffelino6127 Thank you! To sum up for the people who haven't seen the other video: before the Treuille de Beaulieu, the Cent Garde(s) was (were?) equipped with mousquetons Arcelin. Those had an equally long bayonet.

The "cent-gardes", who saw ceremonial service on foot and on horseback, were modeled after traditional cuirassiers, which were (especially since the times of Emperor Napoléon I.) the most prestigious cavalry unit in the french military. And cuirassiers are traditionally armed with a long and straight sword (called "backsword" in English, I guess), in difference to e.g. hussars who are traditionally armed with a long and curved saber (the blade's length of course is necessary to reach infantrymen from horseback). So it's just perfect, that a cuirassier's sword smoothly doubles as sword bayonet, at least technically and for parade purposes. I'd really like to try handling one of these to experience how balanced it is.

I imagine there was a lot of "Be careful, you'll have someone's eye out !" 😁

@Hybris51129

3 жыл бұрын

"That would be an important lesson."

I clicked just to hear you say "Treuille de Beaulieu". It did not disappoint :) Love your content, merci Ian !

Thank you for showing us an image of the cartridge!

Joking aside...or not...the elegance of this example is stunning.Even down to the cartridge.

Anyone else confused at how strange that "Pin fire" device was as Ian talked about it. Only for the camera to pan up the sword sheath.

Thanx Ian. This could have easily been forgotten if it for the museum system and never heard of in the US if not for your work.

wiki "Les cavaliers de l'escadron disposaient d'un sabre-lance droit de type latte de plus d'un mètre, dont la poignée et la garde en laiton étaient aménagées de façon à pouvoir devenir la baïonnette de leur mousqueton, l'ensemble mesurant alors 2,33 m de long. Les sabres furent raccourcis à 86,5 cm en 1858 pour préserver les plafonds des palais impériaux lorsque les gardes présentaient les armes." j'adore ce passage :) "The riders of the squadron had a straight slat-type saber-lance of more than one meter, whose handle and brass guard were arranged in such a way as to be able to become the bayonet of their karabiner, the whole then measuring 2.33 m long. Swords were shortened to 86.5 cm in 1858 to preserve the ceilings of imperial palaces when the guards presented arms. "

Given the sheer number of revolutions an civil disturbances in 19th century Paris a high tech, handy carbine and a sword was probably a sensible choice. That combination spring and trigger guard is a neat piece of design, the external sears less so. Copper is much more ductile and less elastic than brass, the cases would be harder to extract so that loop would have been of great assistance.

The first thing that came up to my mind was Warhammer 40k when i read the imperial guard.

@Sp34k0f3vil

3 жыл бұрын

Sword Bayonet!!!??? *Happy gas mask noises*

@christianmeeks4430

3 жыл бұрын

This is the type of weapon the Kasrkin and Cadians would love. Sword on a gun? Hell yes!

@StephenEagles85

3 жыл бұрын

There's a reason Games Workshop rebranded them to the Astra Militarium.

@RAD1111able

3 жыл бұрын

Sticking a sword to a rifle seems like reasonable Dakka

@kevinoliver3083

5 ай бұрын

The Guardian Spear (combination of a bolter and a power blade) signature weapon of the Adaptes Custodes.

I loved the quiet museum tone here. I don't know why, but the subdued vibe suited it! Thanks Ian!

Beautiful carbine, beautiful video. Thank you Ian.

Amazing review as usual Ian

First time I've seen a sword with a rifle attachment

That's a really darn innovative system! Extremely simple, and for a cased weapon of that era, that's impressive.

I love seeing these rare , antique , obscure , and other wise unobtainum weapons

What an absolutely beautiful gun. Fitting for a guard.

Seems to be a surprisingly well/detailed set of machining for 1854.

Excellent camera work and editing. Well done on getting into Belgian collections

@niklasaskham4208

3 жыл бұрын

Looking forward to more content from Europe 👍

Only the French would dare create something so absolutely insanely impractical and yet so simple

That is just brilliantly weird.. I would love to have a closer look at one some day. Thank you Ian for that insure.

Awesome video and weapon(s)! Thanks for having made it for us! FYI, the final "T" at the end of "cent" (hundred, like in "cent guardes"), is actually mute (as so often with final consonants in french) :)

We would have not lost Waterloo if they invented this earlier!

@wierdalien1

3 жыл бұрын

Ehhhh. You still had to win the Battle of the Nations in 1814 and the Pennisula campaign.

@not-a-theist8251

3 жыл бұрын

Mon Empereur!

@TheHacknor

3 жыл бұрын

It's not the technology itself that's the problem it's not having the ability to mass-produce for it to make a difference

@wierdalien1

3 жыл бұрын

@@not-a-theist8251 mom emperor? He is your mother?

@Morningstar_Actual

3 жыл бұрын

Very much doubt it

"These were tasked with protection of the Emperor, he wanted them to be armed with high tech weapons" *They shall be my finest warriors, these men who give of themselves to me- In great armor i shall clad them and with the mightest weapons they will be armed*

Once again you bring us the coolest things 😎

There's something so wonderful about a massive bayonet that's also a sword

I just have to say, I love how typing gun Jesus into the KZread search bar actually brings up this channel

That is a beautiful piece!

Magnifique.

The brass accents really make for a nice look with the bayonet

@ManDuderGuy

3 жыл бұрын

Inorite? I feel like you could guard the hell out of french royalty in 1854 with this.

Although it's black powder I would assume it's way more reliable in wet weather than a musket and the fouling wouldn't be as bad at making it not able to fire due to the flash hole getting clogged shut.

They also test Treuille de Beaulieu pistols but it may have been redondant with revolvers. One is on display at Saint Étienne musée d’art et d’industrie (alongside a wall gun by Treuille de Beaulieu, with a classical percussion lock but a XIX century muzzle brake).

It looks like a unique variant on the more standard pinfire cartridge. I take Ian's word for it that it's a rimfire cartridge with a pin, but all the more standard (and slightly later) pinfire cartridges that I have ever taken apart had a sort of base wad inside the case with a slot in it for a standard-looking percussion cap and the pin nestles inside this live cap. That is how pinfire guns come to be dangerous, because the ammunition could self-detonate as the action was closed. This design, quirky as it may seem, does address this very real issue! But actual rimfire and centrefire cartridges were a better idea. Apart from anything, the pin-hole means that gas can leak from the base of the pinfire cartridge in a way that rimfire cases deal with. The extraction-loop is needed because the action strikes from underneath: in most pinfire guns the pin is also the extraction device, which is all well and good if the cartridge has been fired before extraction. If it's still live, extraction is a further accidental detonation risk.

@DC2022

3 жыл бұрын

that's why in the first pattern of the ammunition, the pin is on the opposite side of the handle. It is never shown and exposed to accidental shock. the second pattern removed entirely the external pin and prevented even more accidental detonation.

Let me know if I understand. There is nothing between the cartridge and your eye until you pull the trigger!?

@MERLK2

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing exept your luck, faith in the manufacturer having a good day when he made it or the bullet ... oh and pure brass balls :P But jokes aside - it at least looks like it

@RodrigoFernandez-td9uk

3 жыл бұрын

@@MERLK2 Fortunately, cooking off wasn't an issue in that time...

@ragnarragnarsson3128

3 жыл бұрын

@@RodrigoFernandez-td9uk actually that is one advantage of an open bolt gun. Airflow through the barrel and in the chamber keeps that from happening.

@clothar23

3 жыл бұрын

This is the rifle that separates the sober rifleman from the drunken ones. Cause I'd have to be drunk to think that thing is a good idea.

neat, someone ought to write a book on guns like this (sure you've heard this one a million times)

Additional Information from the Emperor. Name : La Fusil Lance (the Lance rifle) Length : 117cm Weight : 2.84kg Saber length : 115.5cm/85.5cm blade Saber weight : 1.5kg Adoption : 1856 Caliber : 9mm Range : 700m From the book 'French Army 1870-71 Franco-Prussian War (1)' by Stephen Shann and Louis Delperier.

I can't pronounce it, so Ian must love it.

The King's Royal Rifle Corps (aka 60th Foot or Royal American Regiment) already used the command "fix swords". So naturally the Cent Guard had to go one better and use actual swords as bayonets.

Thanks for the video, Ian! By our kanadian government's standards, this would be a prohibited "weapon." Because it fires from an open bolt, it would be far too easy to convert it into a "machine gun." Not kidding. Wishing you a Happy and Prosperous New Year!!

Its funny how Elbus Al-Sabote still calls himself "Ian"

That "bayonet" is FABULOUS!

This is a gloriously French rifle. The name...the eccentric pinfire system...the saber-bayonet...surely they were issued along with a beret, a baguette, and a wheel of brie.

The antique vids are the best.

Lovely concept!! The rifle is a work of art when it comes to mechanical simplicity. So the cartridge needs to be overly complicated with extractor loop and what not. Not a good idea but, damn it, it is fascinating.

I remember reading about a similar, but simplified, rimfire action patented by Browning. The trigger was part of the rising block, and moved up when fired. One moving part, one spring. Browning patented it, and WInchester bought it solely so no one else would. JM probably just wanted some extra pocket money.

For crowd work that very long sword would be a non lethal option. The pigsticker would impress people enough to control a crowd, hopefully without using it on someone. It made an impressive pike out of a rather modest weapon. People and horse shy away from pikes.

In french it is bow-lee-oh but in English it is b'you-lee as in the famous motor museum. My one time French girlfriend found it impossible to understand the where the museum was due to the language problem 😢

@alleygh0st

3 жыл бұрын

More like Bo-lee-œ

@chrisstephens6673

3 жыл бұрын

@@alleygh0st depends how you pronounce oh, i suppose.😕 and bow could be as in arrow or bow as in what you do in front of royalty. Isn't English such fun? 😉

Those pinfire revolvers must have been fun to drop considering the pins would be quite easy to be hit when dropped. Fun.

@BasilDesius

3 жыл бұрын

That's why there was a protective cowling over the pins :P

@KenworthW900HG

3 жыл бұрын

Useful if you are storming a castle or some other structure with hard floor and walls - just lob a handful of rounds into the room and hopefully the pins will strike and bullets will go flying 😂

@WH1T3_No1SE

3 жыл бұрын

@@BasilDesius dropping bag of pinfire ammo would be even more fun

@matthewspencer5086

3 жыл бұрын

Pinfire cartridges in shotguns were notorious for self-detonation when the action was closed, or opened to remove unfired rounds. And, yes, dropping a pinfire 12-bore cartridge was dangerous!

@llab3903

3 жыл бұрын

You need compression. It’d be like a bunch of party poppers

Treuille would be pronounced as Troy, for the trailing sound. But you substitute an A to the O, while resisting the urge to then say it as if it was a regular beverage tray. My sources are that I’ve lived in the body of a 53 years old French men in France, since 1968.

What a beautiful distance marks on the sight

That is one beautiful gun!

Thanks as always.

Damn, even title sends me to stratosphere, what will happen when i watch this

I love a gun with a built in escape plan. If the gun jams just the combined gun/sword to pole-vault to safety

Not gonna lie, I'm mainly interested to see how badly Ian is gonna mangle the pronunciation of this one... Good luck man, it's a difficult one.

nice, early transitional metal cartridge systems are always fun to look at

The thing about that bayonet is that it's not as ridiculous as it first appears. Though it is still pretty ridiculous. The first function of a musket with a bayonet was always to simulate a spear, because if you happened to be reloading and the enemy cavalry appeared from behind a convenient hill, you were screwed if you didn't have one. That meant you have to be able to brace butt of the musket on the ground and still present a threat, ideally to the rider, and from a range where cavalry swords and (more importantly) lances can't get you. Look at how long something like a Martini-Henry with a bayonet mounted is, now look at this gun with bayonet on. You will see that they are about the same length, despite this rifle being much, much shorter, and that's why you see bayonets like these in the first place - rifles were shorter, and military brass thought they needed to have spear-like function against cavalry. Howreasonable that line of thinking really was is debatable. My point, I guess, is that the bayonet here is, in fact, compensating for something.

Thank you for the stand-up shot. I was wondering how a 2m arm would look relative to the troops. The vertically-travelling open bolt seems like something that would have happened earlier in history.

A family with that last name lived across the street from me when I was a kid. They pronounced it "bowlyer", but maybe don't go by them. :)

Now that is a very unusual item !

I read that no less that John Browning patented a similar boys rifle in 22. The breach block had a fixed firing pin that struck the 22 rim at the edge. Winchester bought the patent just so no one else could make it and compete with their boys guns.

Nice and simple, I like it.

Have seen this gun in the Musée Historique St.Rémi in Reims today; actually note down the name and then looked up this video. Very interesting, cerainly an unusual rifle, great some examples have survived.

I have to say Ian this is the video I've been waiting for. This is so esoteric I'm guessing your not on friendly terms with your wife. Everybody, On 3! 1, 2 3, PINFIRE!!!!!! Happy New Year.

Awesome Bayonet too!

It was very forward thinking to add a carrying handle on a bullet.

The condition of this old rifle is like ✨

Longsword bayonets need to make a comeback, maybe along with bell bottoms.