And the winner is...the singer

@prodbymeton

6 ай бұрын

And room acoustics

0:18 Audix i5 0:31 T-Bone RB-500 0:44 AKG D-160c 0:56 Shure SM58 1:09 T-Bone SC1100 1:23 Audio Technica AT-2020 1:36 AKG C-3000B 1:50 Audix OM6 2:03 Shure SM-7b 2:15 Sennheiser MD-421 2:28 Sonotronics Sigma 2:42 Sennheiser MD-441 2:55 Neumann TLM-103 3:08 Neumann M-147 3:20 Neumann u87 3:32 Peluso 2247LE

@ScottOctober

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks

he wants to forget her love apparently

He really wants to forget that persons love really bad

Legend has it that despite singing so many times, he still hasn’t forgotten your love!

You got a really nice voice man. A lot of soul in a lot of energy. Thanks for the shootout

That TLM 103... 🤤

Great mic comparison with a soulful voice! Thought the singer sounded amazing! Thanks for this video.

U87... but, this guy could sing through a radio shack mic and it's going to sound great!

You are a great singer! Amazing! 🤩👏 As for the mics: AKG C-3000B sounds the best to me. It has the most "soul juice". 😀

@mrmemyselfandi9609

5 жыл бұрын

This guy uses an AKG3000B exclusively...says it was his first mic and he tried a bunch of others before just sticking with what he had. Cheap old school pre too. Said he uses the original presonus Bluetubes that were handmade in the USA. kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4ml0JeaZ8fZe7A.html

great demo! really easy to hear the mics

excelente comparación, gracias por este útil material...abrazos y esperando el próximo video.

@vrs7976

6 жыл бұрын

En cuanto tengamos un poco de tiempo, realizaremos el mismo vídeo con voz femenina.

Beautiful Voice

With this big voice is easy to make all models great microphones! Thank you

@ZakRahman

6 жыл бұрын

A very good reminder that performance is still the most vital aspect.

MD 441 IS KILLER !

Great song! I definitely like the finished track!

Audix i5 sounds fantastic here ... amazing.

Great singer !

Great voice!!

Wow, great video, bro. I remember we were doing some vocal takes at this studio in Los Angeles and I walked into the dimly lit control room and Dave of Los Lobos was sitting there eating raw jalapenos, just listening back at their vocals harmonies mix (don't recall the song). Anyways, your vocal reminds me of that session.

I use a pair of very rare 60s EV RE-15 mics I bought in the 80s in great condition and the clarity and warmth is unreal plus rejects most noise etc. nothing much beats it IMHO. Used to be Elvis's favorite mic also great on acoustic instruments, has a very honest natural sound. A friend who is a pro Elvis impersonator wanted to pay me good money for it but I won't sell it, it's one of those rare gems now !

Surprising how good the dynamics sound compared to the condenser mic. I have always had it in my head that dynamic are for "live" and condensers are for studio. worlds collide..

@saxofonistacr

5 жыл бұрын

If you don't have a well treated room a good dinamic would do better than a condenser.

@jamespwolpert

4 жыл бұрын

the 58 was my favorite of the whole slew.

The T.Bone SC1100 - Neumann U87 - Neumann M147 BEST MIC!

And the winner is. Us the listeners

Ribbons have really started to grow on me lately, and to me the RB500 sounds absolutely the best in this and the female comparison! The sound is so smooth and buttery, and focuses on the basis of the voice rather than silly little details. I mean I don't want a super-duper overly accurate representation of what's going on in the singers mouth, like most of the condensers give you. From that distance the ribbon really shines, since there's not that much proximity effect, and if you want, you can still boost the highs, which will maintain silky nevertheless. Ribbons can take pretty heavy EQing and still sound great.

Came for the mic shootout, left with a new band I want to check out. Loved the retro vibe of that song in the closing credits. Would be interesting to know what mic was used in the recording.

1:10 t-bone 2:56 neymann

I liked the TLM 103 the best, but I'd like to hear it in context with the music.

More proof that vocal talent trumps mic $$$ every time.

Not sure what does he want to forget

the intonation is everywhere.

he can sing!

This really helps! I have a new mic invention and need to see the differences between expensive and affordable mics. Seems that with my invention, I can transform a "cheaper mic" into something even better sounding than the most expensive mic here. I can change the freq response naturally, even with no preamp. Thanks for these comparisons, appreciate it!

@vrs7976

6 жыл бұрын

Watch the female vocal comparison kzread.info/dash/bejne/qaylqZmgXbbHfpM.html&lc=z23mv5iyqmjyijne1acdp4302k2pxo53fuytqxiaox5w03c010c

@esotericaudiophile3884

6 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

The T.Bone SC1100 just compared it to the U87 and be amazed! Yesterday, out of curiosity I compared the SC-1100 with the Slate digital VMS ML1. The T.Bone sounded full, warm, with silky smooth highs and Captured all nuances. The slate sounded thinner!!!! The t.bone needed less gain, resulting in a very low self noise from the mic. Both mics are great but the t.bone won hands down!!! I also tested it using the Slate mic with the Virtual Mix Rack using the Neumann U-47 as well as the Telefunken ELA M 251E models, while I connected the t.bone to my external Pultec EQP and LA2A clones, now that's where I was blown away! I have not used the t.bone since I bought it because I had a good experience with t.bone mics since 2002, but now I am reconsidering things!!! The t.bone also has three polar patterns vs one with the Slate mic. Previously owned Neumann TLM 49 as Neumann claimed that to be their "Vocal Mic" but sold it because the Slate could give me good results. Still the TLM-49 was an awesome classy sounding mic!

Wow... With this voice, you totally deserve to forget. ¡Con esta voz, mereces olvidar!

Hey guys,i have worked with so many different mics from entry level to high end U87.Why as time passes i love more chep mics and prefer character of the cheap ones such as AKD D190 or TBONE?

Beautiful vocal and love the track! I liked the u87 in the shootout. Which mic was used in the final track?

TLM 103 !

Where's the complete song?:(

The Sontronics Sigma is the clear winner to my ears.

Sontronics Sigma. Hands down!

@lorenzocostanzi3637

4 жыл бұрын

ahhahahahaha for real!!

@MrSeeker42

4 жыл бұрын

Yes! It has a vintage old-timey sound like old vinyl...perfect for his voice and Joe Cocker type vocal style.

cool - respect

Seriously, the AKG's sounded best. Which mic did you end up going with n the recording?

Good concept!! Missing some mics like Neumann U89/TLM 193/TLM 170, etc.

One thing I learned from this: vocal talent beats any bad mike. And I’m sure of the opposite too :)

The T-bone SC1100 for your tone and style. M-147 to add a bid warmth underneath that. These two will do.

Which mic is used in the song at the end

For fair comparison, I think he should have all the mic in front of him and sing once. He sing differently on each take.

@markurban9113

5 жыл бұрын

then some mics would not be in ideal position, it is not about how he sings it but how mics handle different notes, I think difference in quality is quite noticable as price goes up (to a point).

El mejor el Neumann U87, pero me sorprendió lo bien que suena el AT2020, sobre todo considerando el bajo precio que tiene.

Well its def about mic placement and voice control. U pretty much good with any quality mic

The T.Bone SC1100 vs at2020 vs mxl 2006 = ? its not identical?

Which mic did you use in the end on the actual recording, the T-Bone or Neumann ?

Great voice, great comparison. You get what you pay for.

T-bone sc1100 have 3 choices... which one was chosen?

Every time I watch these videos I have to remind myself that it's all preference. Every listener has a different ear and every singer has a different voice.

@domagojzagorac6186

4 жыл бұрын

Not really, when you hear Neuman for 2.5k and T bone, you hear a tone of difference

@only1shaneo

4 жыл бұрын

@@domagojzagorac6186 Sure. I've recorded on a Neumann U87. It's my favorite mic!

@Decenium

4 жыл бұрын

@@domagojzagorac6186 yeah? they dont say you dont, that does not mean anyone would prefere the Neuman over the T bone, it sounds different, that does not mean better or worse

@domagojzagorac6186

4 жыл бұрын

@@Decenium preference is one thing, sound quality in other hand is completely different thing

I liked the Neumann TLM 103

It's crazy how price doesn't really matter that much and it's about finding the right mic for you. I was working in a studio where the engineer set up his U87, and I was just struggling. It sounded so flat, there was nothing coming back to me in my headphones like the crispier response I get from my home recorded demos on my AT2020. My home demos cut through the mix of the music I write. Working in someone else's studio, my vocals were just buried in the mix and it was depressing. I was asking him to add reverb, or a little gain to distort it, anything to try to replicate what I had going on at home. Then he swapped his U87 out for his much cheaper TLM102. It was an instantaneous, THIS IS IT! Even before I started singing, just speaking to my bandmates and him in the booth, my voice sounded the way I wanted it to - like what I was used to with my AT2020 but a little better. Anyway, I even prefer the sound of my voice through a cheap SM58 over that U87, which is supposed to be far superior. Just get the right tool for the right job. I'm a baritone and sometimes emphasizing the higher mids is what pushes me through a mix, so those tones can be described as "thinner" and not as full or rich, but it's what works for me.

@garyharrison8891

4 жыл бұрын

QueeferSutherland his U87 must need work. The TLzM102 is engineered to be a flatter response mic, sounding a little dark, for a more natural sound. U87 are a bit hyped in the upper mids, and highs.

most of people listening doesn’t have studio headphone on and also best mic for me is one that sit in the music mix without eq too much.

U87 yes

The sm58 seriously shines through without being harsh! That damn thing is amazing with good preamps. I’d choose the sm58 over the u87 in this for sure

@valik-stu

3 жыл бұрын

i think u're a bit wrong, sm58 has some harshness around 10k... it becomes obvious when u use some compression

@rylandweet7750

3 жыл бұрын

@@valik-stu that’s where the deesser comes in, if you know how to mix very good then you’ll know, trust me the sm58 shines, also getting very close up on it is best , all you have to do is knock off the bass and bring the highs and squash it with compression then a deesser set at 8-10k and use it quite hard and you have such a great sound

@valik-stu

3 жыл бұрын

@@rylandweet7750 oh, deesser, how could i forget?! 🌚🌚🌚

@rylandweet7750

3 жыл бұрын

@@valik-stu lol I love deessers... you can do sooooo much with them and they help a shit ton if your advanced enough to know how to use them

147 wins on his vocal

My top ones are U87 & M-147. The U87 sounds fuller than the M-147. However, my pick would be the AT2020 - nothing matches it at that price point.

In this case of genre and style I would probably choose 441 or Sigma.

I’m actually crying 😭 Imagine having to sing the same line that many times 🤣

with background music turned on via logic (synth-pad in the right key...had to change key some times ..he is singing in different keys) and listening on genelec studio monitors the sontronics sigma and the sennheiser d-441 are miles above the rest. maybe this can give a little impression how each mic behaves in a "musical" context/arrangement. all the higher-end condensers tlm103, m147, u87 and Peluso 2247 sound thin . probably they won't after processing ..I have had a tlm103 and I own a m147. They definitely don't sound thin . but this is what I hear just listening to the raw sound.

For me... TLM 103 then U87 . also for the money you cant beat the sm58. I use an MXL 990 MXL v88 and V93 for singing and voiceover work. i recommend 100% the mxl 990 if youre just starting out. its amazing sounding for around 50 bucks

0:57 sm 58 2:03 sm 7b 2:15 md421 2:55 tlm 103 3:19 u87

@TheAsthmattack

2 жыл бұрын

2:15 md421

The D-190C has a nice grit I like, not here, but it would sound fantastic elsewhere as more of an effect mic rather than lead, otherwise OM6 wins it for me

The U87ai and M147 win this one... The Peluso has very thin bass and too much top-end, even the T.bone sc1100 sounds much better - now that's a great value mic. Really beware of the Peluso stuff as it's full of chinese electronics, poor choice caps like a Wima FKS for the input, and poor QC on the capsules, chinese made PSU (Alctron) - you can find a dedicated thread on groupdiy which explains all the chinese stuff you buy for that premium price :) And of course it sounds nothing like the ELA M251 which he tries to emulate.

A really good singing mic is one that renders dynamics smoothly across the whole frequency range, as if it had some subtle inbuilt compressor, and this inspires the singer to sing more perfectly consciously or unconsciously. I think the Neumanns have got this untold musical ability with their mics. I could see this singer was himself impressed with the TLM103, then going to the M-147 tube it was so vintage smooth and then to the U-87 which didn't seem to care if he was loud and rendered it effortlessly with no harshness. Can't go wrong with a Neumann which is built for everything from voice to instruments. The Sontronics sounded good and stood out and the others all had their own signatures, some quite predictably uninspiriing. But with the Neumanns I can tell that you would not be wasting time trying to EQ and process it .. all it would likely need is some context related processing without having to worry about trying to correct the mic, which is a huge advantage.

@perkeleman1265

3 жыл бұрын

Really depends on what you use it for, for pop it works great for insance, but for smoother/quiet performances like jazz as one example, the U87 especially, sounds like someone almost overcompressed the vocals already, it's just too aggressive.

That md421 sounds good

@Jjf109nine

4 жыл бұрын

Agreed best to me

compared to everything else, sonotronics sounded almost like it was under a pillow. sm7b was very smooth.

"cam " from modern family?

thx for doing this comparison! Shure SM7B & Sennheiser MD 441in the low-price area are really nice. Both are a bit "dark" and lack resolution, but can fit well to rocktype music and can handle eq without getting to harsh (what I think can get problematic with some of the other cheaper mics). The Body of the TLM 103 is not as nice as with the M147 and other LCDs in the upper price range in this comparison. The M147 is a mic... well, I really don´t find it a very good one for this price. Owned it for some years, but always had some mics that fitted better for a particular job and instrument/vox. But it has solid and tight body (lowend and midrange). Thats something I like it for. U87 is really nice, didn´t expect something else. Has everything one needs, good midrange, nice topend, a real alrounder. Have no experience with Peluso mics, but I don´t really like this particular one. Your room and voice could work with many mics from this comparison. The further processing while mixing will show even more which mic holds its quality and which fall apart. If you would have the time to compare them roughmixed into the track, that would be really really interesting. :) I am going to make a similar shootout with some heavy hitters (Neumann M149, Tele U47, Tele Ela M 251, AKG 414 etc) in the next months... feel free to have a look on my channel at this time, might be interesting for you. cheers!

@vrs7976

6 жыл бұрын

Cool! Thanks for your time. Our next video will be in a dry room and a female voice. I was hoping to see your next video Cheers!!!

@pablofuica7427

6 жыл бұрын

but the sennheiser md441 coast 795 euros! is not a low price range.

@tonstudiometzingen

6 жыл бұрын

thinking about this, my personal my price range is settled like this:

Many of the mics would only be used for voice in a live setting. All the Neumann mics really stood out. Especially the M147. I’m not a fan of the TLM103 but even that sounded better than the lower end competitors. The Peluso was nice too. Once you get up in the €1000+ range, everything should be “good”. It becomes more about flavors. The U87 is also nice. Those are high end items though. Good for recording studios and professional voice actors. For most musicians with a home studio, €2000 is an obscene expense. There are excellent microphones in the sub €500 range, just not shone here. Ah, if money were no object…

@lefterhsk1

11 ай бұрын

Sometimes i am wondering if audio gear companies are playing with us.. to tell the truth i liked more a 100€ ribbon mic (t bone) than the expensive mic...it was smooth like butter...fits perfectly in this style of singing...second i liked the md441 dynamic mic

Nothing beats Neumann

@ghawk78

4 жыл бұрын

For some folks. I prefer an AKG C12 vr over the U87.

after hearing the final track... I would certainly at least cut a track with the Sennheiser.

The T sound is so sibilent on tlm 103, the u87 ai is like a tlm 103 without the sibilens and better sound quality, the shure sm58 sound more open and clean than shure sm7b, the sm7b sounded very muddy.

@capelitheband

2 жыл бұрын

having body isnt always being muddy

and the data compression used by the KZread algorithm..............

Neumann M147 all the way! and the Sonotronics a surprising close 2nd because it had that nice 1960’s AM radio sound. The U87ai sounded too modern and airy, lacking depth and character. The TLM103 sounded too thin and sibilant. The M147 sounded fuller and I feel it balanced the warm and the bright evenly, just like it’s beautifully symmetrical frequency response curve.

@MrSeeker42

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed on both points!

SM 58 and U 87

TBONE SC1100 was surprisingly good especially for the price.

@capelitheband

2 жыл бұрын

no it was not....

1:23, 2:43, 3:32, 3:17, 0:56, 2:56

I get the idea of short samples to compare the sound whilst it’s fresh in your mind, but an audio excerpt with no esses? Control of sibilance is literally one of the very top priorities of a vocal microphone, come on!

@rylandweet7750

3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

135/5000 It sounds as if it were always the shot from the microphone of the camera, there is no difference and it is the sound of distant non-directional environment

@VoxJ

4 жыл бұрын

Yes...remarkable little difference , especially when comparing the almost opposite freq graphs

I preferred the SM7B super smooth, the U87 would probably sit in the mix. I didn’t like the thin sound of the 441, i thought the AKG held its own.

@lefterhsk1

4 жыл бұрын

Did you mean...thin sound of 421? Because to my ears 441 had fater sound than sm7b

@garyharrison8891

4 жыл бұрын

lefterhsk1 not on my studio monitors, I thought the 441 had nice presence in the top end, lacked lower end, especially in the low midrange area, edit: It's sounds very midrange heavy, the 421 was very thin, the 441was mid range heavy and lacking lower mids and lows.

3:17 Neumann u87

@capelitheband

2 жыл бұрын

isnt the holy grail. I got a vintage one, but use my shure sm7b mostly

U87 win

I actually liked the Sigma the best

@mixedbybrayz

2 жыл бұрын

😂

You gotta be fucking kidding with the Sigma at 2:26. What could justify that price?

@vasorotto19

3 жыл бұрын

I noticed that too!

1:10 1:25

por que este mic vale tanto dinero ? 2:26

@bennicolas8805

3 жыл бұрын

cereo que es de cinta

@LeviTalTV

3 жыл бұрын

там верхние частоты занижены, поэтому звук такой глухой без обработки голоса.

Md441 sounded best to me

2:50 1:20

Why was he singing in different keys, was he not listening to the track in his headphones? Is he a singer with the right tone but has to be auto-tuned in recording? This video just presents too many questions

@AlexSoundFX

6 күн бұрын

He's probably just singing on his own, nothing in the headphones.

there´s another great video comparing the Delphos with a Neumann and a AKG: kzread.info/dash/bejne/f2qAyrOhcsLbiaw.html

Great video and voice. AKG C3000B was more musical to my ears. $119 free shipping ebay in USA. Also a Studio Projects C1 would have been interesting in this comparison.

@mrmemyselfandi9609

5 жыл бұрын

This guy uses an AKG3000B exclusively...says it was his first mic and he tried a bunch of others before just sticking with what he had. Cheap old school pre too. Said he uses the original presonus Bluetubes that were handmade in the USA. kzread.info/dash/bejne/d4ml0JeaZ8fZe7A.html

@longde

5 жыл бұрын

the respose curve of that mic is like a loudness boost. Take the first AKG in the video, apply EQ and sound should get similar.

you have listen to this blind, dont look at the mic used, then lets see what you really thing is best

that Peluso!!! creamy. but for the money its hard to beat an sm58

tel me why he change the note after each time lol hahaha thats ridicul NO ?