2:25 Professional electrician here: There's a reason for the earth connector to be "higher": If you rip off the cable accidentially the earth wire will unplug at last. So please! do NOT shorten it! Let the cables AT LEAST at the same length! 3:26 Precrimp: Yes, you have to! It's for maximum surface contact. Use only professional crimping tools. Else, in the case of a fire caused by it the insurance wouldn't pay you a penny!

@frankhobsonKJ4CDM

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Julian is still alive and no fire. Must be good enough. Lol

@nabarnes

2 жыл бұрын

Also, the ferrules are too big. Also the wall mounts should be fitted vertically (water draining when they're outside and so as not to put any sideways strain on the cable in the connector plugged into it - sideways strain will open up the waterproof cable strain relief). Sadly this video is a masterclass in how not to do the job of wiring to an outhouse.

@rimmersbryggeri

2 жыл бұрын

probably ferrules with plastic sleeves are a better fit inside connectros too to be honest. I got a really decent crimper for about lesss than £10 which is good enough for a hobbyist. They also work for deutch automotive connectors which is what I do. kzread.info/dash/bejne/eZ6L05SSosngYKw.html

@DreStyle

2 жыл бұрын

Next time minus the "insert job" here, dont want to know I'm reading American bragging

@largepimping

2 жыл бұрын

​@@DreStyle Did an American hurt you when you were a child? TELL US WHAT THEY DID TO YOU!!! Poor thing.

That's it Julian, I'm calling big Clive.

The earth connection is raised up for a reason. The wires get cut the same length, and the earth get an extra bend/loop.

@alexstone691

2 жыл бұрын

It was so in case the wires get pulled out the earth will be pulled last IIRC

Ferrules are way to big for the wire. They are supposed to be a tightish fit so when crimped they pack all the stands tightly together. Ferrules are meant to fit the wires not the fitting they are going in. This leaves a poor connection that could fail prematurely.

Fail: "Looks like the earth one will need to be cut a bit shorter.". The earth one (more correctly called PE) should be sized such that if the cable is yanked out from the plug the PE one will be the last one to still have contact. That does actually work quite well with these big connectors where there's plenty of space or as in your case where the PE wire is raised. For other connector you may need to leave PE one or two cm longer. The ferrules must be crimped before tightetning the screws with a proper crimping tool - a pair of pliers is going to do a bad job. And sorry, no soldering. Oh and the ferrule is looking pretty large. It should be just large enough to fit easily on the wire, no larger. I think in your previous video you said the conductors were 2.6 mm². Yours look like they're about 4 mm² - but there's no standard known to me which uses red for a ferrule of that size - or anything close to it. So that's a bit weird but no problem, the ferrule colour isn't important, just a useful hint at the wire cross section. At 230V and 16A the current is large enough that this needs done properly. Because you don't want to meet the fire brigade. At least not in your own home ;-)

1) Never cut the PE shorter, see the other comment. 2) Yes, the ferrul should be crimped before going into the plug. This one is way to thick though, Looks to be for 4mm² wire, yours looks more like 2.5mm². There should be pretty much no play with the right size. 3) Solder is a nogo in screwterminals, actually illegal here, since it gives over time and the pressure of the screw with be gone. That can result in a bad connection -> heat -> melted solder -> short -> fire. Unlikely but still not a good idea.

@ziongite

2 жыл бұрын

"Never" is wrong, in the example he is doing in this video with these plugs it was wrong to cut the earth shorter, it's meant to be equal so it's connected while the other two wires may be pulled out accidentally or failing for some reason, the earth being the last to come out means it's earthed in those situations at least. However, in entirely different applications (nothing to do with this video or these connectors), there is no electrical rule that says the length of the earth cable has to be identical to the live and neutral, the earth total wire in fact varies depending upon which building you are in, it's literally just a wire that goes into the power box and then out into the ground, which is why it's called earth. The length of the internal earth cable will vary depending upon appliance also, therefore to say that the earth cable should "never" be a different length than the live and neutral is just false, in all appliances and all homes the earth cable is always a different length than the live and neutral.

@lordofthebeltsthereturnoft1127

2 жыл бұрын

@@ziongite It would appear this muh1h1 guy believes that the electrical function of the earthing won't work if the wire is even 1-2cm different than the live wire. I can't really understand that myself however, but that appears to be what he might be saying.

@muh1h1

2 жыл бұрын

@@ziongite you are right.

Yes the ferrules are required on stranded wire if all the terminal has is a screw. This is so the wires don’t slip out from under the screw. If the screw is pushing a plate down then the plate will grab all the wires and the ferrule is not needed. Also size the ferrule to be tight on the wires. It doesn’t need to fill the socket.

Normally, I like your videos just not on this occasion. You've made a few mistakes, I'm just telling you as I'm a qualified electrician (no hate)

Need to use a proper set of Ferrule Crimpers they compress all the wires together over a longer length typically making a square section. Also, wires should just stick out of the end of the ferrule a tiny bit this is useful for checking visually you have crimped on the wires and also reduces the chance of it pulling out as the ends splay out a little. Insulation colour is coded for the wire size and if all the wires are the same gauge then all the crimps should be the same size and colour. you should use the smallest size that slides over the wire. The screw should not be used to crimp the ferrule it should already be crimped under the area the screw makes contact.

The usual suspects sell a ferrule crimper that works reasonably well along with a whole box of ferrules for very little money. I've done some shoddy stuff myself, but for mains I wouldn't want to risk a bad connection like this. When you snip a properly crimped ferrule in half you'll see that the copper strands are fused together basically in a solid mass, looks really cool.

Never, ever, ever, ever use solder for power connections. Just my two cents. :)

@sdgelectronics

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing wrong with soldering. How do you think wires are connected to the PCB in a device?

@rossthompson1635

2 жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics Yes there is a real issue when soldered ends are under screw terminals. The solder creeps and the connections work loose. I've been safety testing kit for 30 years and it is a real issue, especially in 13A plugs or IEC connectors that were wired in this way. Arcing, burnt insulation or no contact at all - seen it all.

@rossthompson1635

2 жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics But yes absolutely take your point, to a soldered connection on a track or terminal designed to be soldered is fine.

@cfusername

2 жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics You're right, as usual it depends on the situation. Soldering is only "bad" if the tinned wire will be put into a simple screw terminal, without spring or spring metal clip, because the solder is soft and will flow away over time and the screw wont automatically go in deeper but stay where it is.

@kapegede

2 жыл бұрын

@@sdgelectronics Totally wrong with screwed connections! Solder tends to "creep away" after a while and the connection gets loose.

As others have said the earth wire always needs to be the longest so if the wires get pulled out the earth is always the last connection to get pulled out.

I was going to say something, but EVERYBODY beat me to it. :)

Maybe someone can link him a video on how to do this properly

On top of all the complaints about you using the ferrules wrong in oh-so-many ways, also... Stop using a posi screwdriver in a phillips screw!

@David_11111

2 жыл бұрын

Sigh.. so hope your telling a joke !

I like to use side cutters to strip thick insulation like that. Score around the depth you wish to cut (as you did), but you don't have to cut all the way to the wire jackets. Then, take a pair of side cutters and start trimming from the bare wire end to the score mark you made. Once you get to the score mark, you might be able to just tear off the excess, or more easily see where it needs trimming.

Please get a ferrule crimper.

@JulianIlett

2 жыл бұрын

Well, funnily enough...

Please remake the cable, without shortening the protective earth/grounding wire.

oh my goodness - hehe. Looking good there Julian!

Omfg. Is this supposed to be an instructional video?. You‘re doing about everything wrong. Ok. At least you didn‘t end up soldering the ferrules. I give you that. But it was a close call I suppose.

@BenjaminGoose

2 жыл бұрын

"Is this supposed to be an instructional video?" no

@Bob_Burton

2 жыл бұрын

@@BenjaminGoose will someone follow what Julian does ? Unfortunately, yes

@torstenb5248

2 жыл бұрын

@@thesecretengineer nah. Give Darvin a chance!

My regular wall outlet is 15 amps. What niche does this fill?

@xwolpertinger

2 жыл бұрын

Not catching on fire during constant load?

@jonrpearce

2 жыл бұрын

IP rated. These connectors are IP44, but you can get as far as IP68. Good for outdoor use!

Pre-crimp: Yes, you have to if you want maximum surface contact.....crimping always applies maximum surface contact, hence less heating at contact points...!!!

The socket needs to be facing downwards to repel water or you'll defeat it's IP rating

Oh the horror! RSVP Julian's house after the imminent electrical fire! 🤣 Seriously though, this would be extremely illegal here in Australia. As we all know, everything is much more dangerous here, so if I were to try this, it would almost certainly burn my place to the ground. Of course, not before the SWAT raid for illegally wiring my own electrics.

KA-BOOM Julian pull's the trigger and off they go ! marvellous work old bean...Bravo !

@fredflintstone1

2 жыл бұрын

I hope all the qualified sparks have done a five year apprenticship:-)

@andymouse

2 жыл бұрын

@@fredflintstone1 Or got their NICEIE certs !

Not ideal, but I'm sure it will do the job. I doubt you will ever be pulling anything close to 16A. If it does catch on fire, be sure to do a live stream! ;)

Electrician training is the chief cause of pedantry in the greater English speaking world.

FWIW on the cable where the ground needed to be pushed between line and neutral it woud have worked like this if you had started with the other end of the cable. A 3 conductor cable cannot have out of sequence conductors...

How are those massive connectors only 16A rated? It is that confusingly the name of them? ferrules are a good idea so you don't not screw up the strands. Yes they should be crimped. And don't use solder because it makes the wire brittle (tin lead inbrittlement). Proper crimping tools aren't expensive.

I have always liked that style of receptacle but here in the US the only place that uses them is Mc Donalds on their kitchen equipment. I wouldn't mind using them on my shop equipment especially since they are dirt cheap compared to the stuff we use here in the US. Shoe lace ferrules are also not used here in the US either. They are only showing up because you can buy them on ebay and amazon from China sellers.

For those of you making light of potentially problematic mains electrical connections, maybe you should watch this video kzread.info/dash/bejne/pYejt5Jso5bUqqg.html where the cause was an electrical fault… (although that was likely a faulty mains adapter or similar).

For a guy thats being doing electronics for I do not know how long (ie a long time) How is it you can't wire a plug!! *Mind blown :-D

If you used a shorter flex you would get less Volt drop HA HA!!!!!

@andymouse

2 жыл бұрын

Squeak !

Wow… how NOT to do this. Hope nobody uses this video as instructions/advice.

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I’ve never wired a 16mm plug but I can tell there’s a lot done wrong here

Huge 16A? It’s the smallest of the family, try a 125A for huge!

That crimping....

Wow lots of thumb downs! Just watching now... this should be good! ;-) 215 up and 68 down. Can't wait to see what Julian did wrong!

@JulianIlett

2 жыл бұрын

I didn't start the video by saying "I'm a professional electrician"

Really a whole video with you just putting ends on a cable... lol

@JulianIlett

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

16Amps is very kinky and you could possibly smell a burning smell

Nice.

So if I unplug the lead end and put my tongue 👅 across the pins ………..

this whole video screams "DO NOT FOLLOW"

Great video. Thanks for sharing this project with us.

Some good info in these comments

Julian your work looks proper. Nice neat connection. Electronics hobby is fun.

Lidl too short that earth wire, Aldl cut so much off. Sorry just had to get them in ;-)

@andymouse

2 жыл бұрын

You just couldn't resist It !

@fredflintstone1

2 жыл бұрын

@@andymouse he could have:-)

I wonder how many dislikes and comments you would get. If you wired L to E, N to L and N to L? lol

@JulianIlett

2 жыл бұрын

Lots of likes probably :)

You don't have a clue about how to strip flex or wire Ceeform plugs. Stick to low voltage stuff.

Job Well Done !!!

@JulianIlett

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you - it works :)

As a professional carpenter A professional concrete cutter A professional demolition company owner A professional machine operator An electronic enthousiast An audiophile A professional gamer And an RC lover I can tell you just connect the fckn wires because I've been doing it for years and running high loads without any accidents 😂 just screw em make sure you put in a wire that handles the load of your socket and stop listening to those so called professional electricians "now I've created a sh*t storm! INCOMINGGGG"

@YTANDY100

2 жыл бұрын

@Andrew van Leeuwen i agree with you , its not the best job but it works so it is all good :-)

@Mark1024MAK

2 жыл бұрын

@@RichBristol - audio does not need high frequencies - human ears are not very good much above 20kHz. And if you are over twenty, as you get older, your higher frequency hearing gets worse. Hence fifty year olds can’t hear much above 12kHz. Compare the 20kHz to baseband / composite video at 5.5MHz to 6MHz…

Sorry, but it's too long and boring.

Do you really need to tell your job before giving advice?

It’s ok everyone, he crimped it in the end. Stop sending hate!

@kapegede

2 жыл бұрын

We're not hating him! We are just warning him about a big mistake.

makes me laugh all these knowledgeable people thinking they know more than Julian who has years of electrical/electronic experience. He knows what he is doing folks, maybe look at his bio before making your 'helpful suggestions'

@AndreasKoepkeAU

2 жыл бұрын

Yes he does have years of experience that doesn't exclude someone from still learning and making mistakes at times. In this case I was cringing while watching the video. I don't think this is up to his usual standard.

@prduguid

2 жыл бұрын

Years of electronic experience maybe, but clearly not electrical. Not the first time I've worried about Julian and electrics

@cfusername

2 жыл бұрын

Nonsense. Have you watched the video? He even said himself, that he is unsure about some things.

@followthetrawler

2 жыл бұрын

you know what - I was having a bad day yesterday, I would delete my initial response, but the replies deserve to be seen and act as a reminder to me not to spout nonsense on SoMe.

@sonicmistress

2 жыл бұрын

Lol, the mentality of a Fanboi....I'm not a qualified Electrician but even I know that to leave the Earth wire longer so it's last to disconnect in case of a problem. This Video clearly shows he doesn't know what he's doing....And potentially dangerous, so clearly a danger posting this 12 minute, could have been 2 mins, BS.