I looked it up “Savannah Georgia cult” and this is the first video that popped up.
@BethanyStallings4 жыл бұрын
I live a block from mate factor... I always see them walking around
@austinavison
3 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the coffee shop and town?
@GhostnTacos
2 жыл бұрын
Mate factor
@spasplash1564 жыл бұрын
Students are a huge contributors to the twelve tribes.
@estudodasescriturasdoshebr86693 жыл бұрын
I've spent 6 weeks living in one of their communities in Brasil. They are decent. The tares will hate them, no surprise.
@scwiggie5 жыл бұрын
No certification is needed in Oregon or Pennsylvania or Vermont either. Not sure what the point of the certification comment was as the cert. would come from the secular state.
@shaunheeren97482 жыл бұрын
The twelve tribes are kind, considerate, have highly intelligent children, they practice biblical techings in nearly all aspects of their day to day life, they are humble, thoughtful and generous people. They frankly set the standard for christian living. Although they wouldn't like to be identified as christians whatsoever. I've spent about three days each week for the last three months living, worshiping, and working at variuos communities around the country. I'm very impressed.
@helenaquinn74804 жыл бұрын
Our country was founded on Christian values, and emphasized the right to freedom of religion. Twelve Tribes doesn't force their religion on anyone, they only show their fruit of the spirit. If you truly spent any time in their community, it would be evident that they don't do anything outside of a person's will, because God Himself, who they try to not only worship in faith, but by works, doesn't do that. We live in a Godless society nowadays, so it's perfectly understandable that many would have so many preconceptions that they just can't take that lense off and look at them without any bias.
@trevmcdonald4175
4 жыл бұрын
What about the children born into this cult?
@scabw
4 жыл бұрын
@@trevmcdonald4175 I've just heard about these 12 Tribes maybe 40 minutes ago. But it seems to me their children can leave, once they are old enough to support themselves. At least, that's what it looks like to me: They live right in the city. They work ordinary jobs, or the men do. And it's not like they're isolated in some remote community.
@trevmcdonald4175
4 жыл бұрын
@@scabw they beat the children with strips of wood and other abuse. By the time they are 18 they will be full indoctrinated.
@jonathantruthseeker6196
4 жыл бұрын
spanking your child to show them discipline is not child abuse it's been done for 1000s of years and it produced strong men those without discipline are the worlds problem 2019 where everyone is a bunch of sensitive pussies with no back bone
@helenaquinn7480
4 жыл бұрын
@Justin Collins If you call hitting using a dry thin stick to their butts, which will break if used too hard, then you must be one of the pussies that Jonathen is talking about.
@sambrody40572 жыл бұрын
I'm a SCAD student studying film and television and I would love to talk to you about your film & if you had any stock footage I could use, as I am trying myself to make a documentary about the 12 tribes! awesome work! I also sent you a friend request on facebook!
@principe1968
2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add on to this comment, as I was so impressed by this short film.
@wruff3784 жыл бұрын
Child discipline teachings of Twelve Tribes founder Elbert Spriggs (Yoneq) and other Twelve Tribes elders: “It’s better to be too severe in our discipline than too lenient. It is very difficult to increase discipline later on, but it isn’t difficult to decrease…Discipline, in order to be effective, must be consistent, controlled severity, and applied early in life, and immediately after an offense…This means that we shouldn’t give anyone a command unless we see to it that he obeys. The rod must come wherever there is disobedience. Let’s not ever use the rod unless it hurts. It should be that the child would never want another spanking” better to overdiscipline-dolls-fantazing “A child can learn at a very young age. For example, a wriggling six-month-old baby who intentionally refuses to let you put on his diaper can be taught the meaning of “no” in one or two simple lessons. When he tries to crawl away while changing his diaper, he can be told “no,” pulled back, and held in place for a moment. The next time that he tries to crawl away, he should be spanked lightly”. Control and teaching “When there is a stubborn child you should shorten the child’s life. It limits the family”. -Training Up Our Children In The Way They Should Go. 1988-11-22-t02 Yesterday I was down at the river and Yochanan (Haggai’s son) was swimming and I saw that he had stripes on his bottom. I thought that if there were other people there and they saw those marks, they should know that he has a father who loves him. -Breaking of bread 7/15/89 From the cradle to the grave you must discipline your children. From the age of 6 months you would start disciplining them with a rod on the palm of their hands and then you would stop when they are about one year old. From there you would discipline the children with a rod on their buttocks until they submit… -Elbert Spriggs (Yoneq) Our children need to fear the rod. The severity of our discipline should cause them to never want to be disciplined again. Don’t be afraid of your “baby”. That he is going to be more than you can handle if you confront his bad attitudes or deal with his disobedience. For we have no other purpose than to deal with our children.. So, take action and “beat the tar out of him”. -Letter From Abel 4/6/85 The method needs to be controlled, slow and hard. He should never want another wippen (sic) as long as he lives. -Elders Meeting 2/11/78 Reproof gives wisdom to the child. Submission comes only through reverent submission (fear) of the Lord. Execute judgment and draw blood. -Elders Meeting 2/11/78 A six month old baby can be trained what no means. Lightly use the rod not your hand. When the baby is wiggling when their diaper is changed, spank them to stop wiggling. -AWM 3/16/88 A man who beats his son frequently will reap the benefits. He will be proud of him among his acquaintances. -Letter From Abel 4/6/85 Bend his neck and bruise his ribs while he is young. Allow him no independence in childhood, or he will hurt you very deeply. Be strict with your son and persevere if not then you will nurture his insolence. -Letter From Abel 4/6/85 question12tribes.com/harsh-discipline/ Twelve Tribes teachings: question12tribes.com/tt-teachings/
@michellelindsey2189
Жыл бұрын
That's the problem nowadays ppl are soft I used to get my @33 whooped on a regular
@user-zh8gd3gd6u
Жыл бұрын
@@michellelindsey2189then join this cult
@susan5998
Жыл бұрын
I have visited the community, unannounced, for 2 days. Then a seperate day visit with my husband. I can tell you i witnessed NO abuse. I saw parents that would discipline children, with love and timeouts. No rod. They would say, "look at abba (daddy) in my eyes...this behavior is not good and needs to stop." In the rare times it was necessary, the child took a short timeout with mama and returned within minutes. Happy to be back, and only sad at what excitement they may have missed during timeout. Yeah, terrible parenting. Then dad later confessed, feeling he wasnt patient enough. Good grief, the guy was a model parent.
@maidsua4208
10 ай бұрын
Horrible people! Hitting a small child does not instill respect for the abuser.
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I looked it up “Savannah Georgia cult” and this is the first video that popped up.
I live a block from mate factor... I always see them walking around
@austinavison
3 жыл бұрын
What is the name of the coffee shop and town?
@GhostnTacos
2 жыл бұрын
Mate factor
Students are a huge contributors to the twelve tribes.
I've spent 6 weeks living in one of their communities in Brasil. They are decent. The tares will hate them, no surprise.
No certification is needed in Oregon or Pennsylvania or Vermont either. Not sure what the point of the certification comment was as the cert. would come from the secular state.
The twelve tribes are kind, considerate, have highly intelligent children, they practice biblical techings in nearly all aspects of their day to day life, they are humble, thoughtful and generous people. They frankly set the standard for christian living. Although they wouldn't like to be identified as christians whatsoever. I've spent about three days each week for the last three months living, worshiping, and working at variuos communities around the country. I'm very impressed.
Our country was founded on Christian values, and emphasized the right to freedom of religion. Twelve Tribes doesn't force their religion on anyone, they only show their fruit of the spirit. If you truly spent any time in their community, it would be evident that they don't do anything outside of a person's will, because God Himself, who they try to not only worship in faith, but by works, doesn't do that. We live in a Godless society nowadays, so it's perfectly understandable that many would have so many preconceptions that they just can't take that lense off and look at them without any bias.
@trevmcdonald4175
4 жыл бұрын
What about the children born into this cult?
@scabw
4 жыл бұрын
@@trevmcdonald4175 I've just heard about these 12 Tribes maybe 40 minutes ago. But it seems to me their children can leave, once they are old enough to support themselves. At least, that's what it looks like to me: They live right in the city. They work ordinary jobs, or the men do. And it's not like they're isolated in some remote community.
@trevmcdonald4175
4 жыл бұрын
@@scabw they beat the children with strips of wood and other abuse. By the time they are 18 they will be full indoctrinated.
@jonathantruthseeker6196
4 жыл бұрын
spanking your child to show them discipline is not child abuse it's been done for 1000s of years and it produced strong men those without discipline are the worlds problem 2019 where everyone is a bunch of sensitive pussies with no back bone
@helenaquinn7480
4 жыл бұрын
@Justin Collins If you call hitting using a dry thin stick to their butts, which will break if used too hard, then you must be one of the pussies that Jonathen is talking about.
I'm a SCAD student studying film and television and I would love to talk to you about your film & if you had any stock footage I could use, as I am trying myself to make a documentary about the 12 tribes! awesome work! I also sent you a friend request on facebook!
@principe1968
2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to add on to this comment, as I was so impressed by this short film.
Child discipline teachings of Twelve Tribes founder Elbert Spriggs (Yoneq) and other Twelve Tribes elders: “It’s better to be too severe in our discipline than too lenient. It is very difficult to increase discipline later on, but it isn’t difficult to decrease…Discipline, in order to be effective, must be consistent, controlled severity, and applied early in life, and immediately after an offense…This means that we shouldn’t give anyone a command unless we see to it that he obeys. The rod must come wherever there is disobedience. Let’s not ever use the rod unless it hurts. It should be that the child would never want another spanking” better to overdiscipline-dolls-fantazing “A child can learn at a very young age. For example, a wriggling six-month-old baby who intentionally refuses to let you put on his diaper can be taught the meaning of “no” in one or two simple lessons. When he tries to crawl away while changing his diaper, he can be told “no,” pulled back, and held in place for a moment. The next time that he tries to crawl away, he should be spanked lightly”. Control and teaching “When there is a stubborn child you should shorten the child’s life. It limits the family”. -Training Up Our Children In The Way They Should Go. 1988-11-22-t02 Yesterday I was down at the river and Yochanan (Haggai’s son) was swimming and I saw that he had stripes on his bottom. I thought that if there were other people there and they saw those marks, they should know that he has a father who loves him. -Breaking of bread 7/15/89 From the cradle to the grave you must discipline your children. From the age of 6 months you would start disciplining them with a rod on the palm of their hands and then you would stop when they are about one year old. From there you would discipline the children with a rod on their buttocks until they submit… -Elbert Spriggs (Yoneq) Our children need to fear the rod. The severity of our discipline should cause them to never want to be disciplined again. Don’t be afraid of your “baby”. That he is going to be more than you can handle if you confront his bad attitudes or deal with his disobedience. For we have no other purpose than to deal with our children.. So, take action and “beat the tar out of him”. -Letter From Abel 4/6/85 The method needs to be controlled, slow and hard. He should never want another wippen (sic) as long as he lives. -Elders Meeting 2/11/78 Reproof gives wisdom to the child. Submission comes only through reverent submission (fear) of the Lord. Execute judgment and draw blood. -Elders Meeting 2/11/78 A six month old baby can be trained what no means. Lightly use the rod not your hand. When the baby is wiggling when their diaper is changed, spank them to stop wiggling. -AWM 3/16/88 A man who beats his son frequently will reap the benefits. He will be proud of him among his acquaintances. -Letter From Abel 4/6/85 Bend his neck and bruise his ribs while he is young. Allow him no independence in childhood, or he will hurt you very deeply. Be strict with your son and persevere if not then you will nurture his insolence. -Letter From Abel 4/6/85 question12tribes.com/harsh-discipline/ Twelve Tribes teachings: question12tribes.com/tt-teachings/
@michellelindsey2189
Жыл бұрын
That's the problem nowadays ppl are soft I used to get my @33 whooped on a regular
@user-zh8gd3gd6u
Жыл бұрын
@@michellelindsey2189then join this cult
@susan5998
Жыл бұрын
I have visited the community, unannounced, for 2 days. Then a seperate day visit with my husband. I can tell you i witnessed NO abuse. I saw parents that would discipline children, with love and timeouts. No rod. They would say, "look at abba (daddy) in my eyes...this behavior is not good and needs to stop." In the rare times it was necessary, the child took a short timeout with mama and returned within minutes. Happy to be back, and only sad at what excitement they may have missed during timeout. Yeah, terrible parenting. Then dad later confessed, feeling he wasnt patient enough. Good grief, the guy was a model parent.
@maidsua4208
10 ай бұрын
Horrible people! Hitting a small child does not instill respect for the abuser.