I remember when people thought Vegeta was gonna get “Offensive” Ultra Instinct 💀

@Tigerman4545

7 ай бұрын

“I’m going to say the n-word, Kakarot”

@low-key-tony

7 ай бұрын

Ultra Instinct but it forces you to take damage 💀

@theultimateawesome5516

7 ай бұрын

Hit’s time clone

@provoscarf6466

7 ай бұрын

The poster before the TOP started is still quite cool to me, but it made sense why this theory was created

@RedShadowAMV

7 ай бұрын

You talking as if that's not a cool ass idea

When Granolah was first showing up, I thought he was a survivor from one of the universes that Zeno had destroyed. Especially since he was called the lone/single survivor. I figured the entire arc would be about him trying to get the Super Dragon Balls as a means of revenge against the little monster. Sure, it was silly, but I guess I had a bias at the time. Because I still hate Zeno.

@rifarira9160

7 ай бұрын

Why

@mango808s4

7 ай бұрын

His design sucks. He’s annoying, and now there’s 2 of him.

@su93r62

7 ай бұрын

​@@rifarira9160a child with authority over everyone That's why 💀

I remember when people thought that Piccolo would unlock a new form during the tournament of power, I honestly thought he would.

I unironically love the mid 2010's era when it comes to the DBS fandom because of how absurd the fans were, things like Goku Black being Goten, El Hermano, SSB3, the list goes on

@sul_9999

7 ай бұрын

Id argue it was also one of the most toxic. From powerscalers, to “super sucks” and the giant brigade of kids who shittalk everyone

Goku hit his head so hard so many times in Dragonball. The only”kakarot” I could argue is maybe the first time he went SSJ. Because it wasn’t just rage he was malicious cold and honestly out of character even when he’s angry

@Jb02a4

7 ай бұрын

I would also add "Kakarot" when he was told Goku black killed Chi Chi and Goten. I say it's when he snaps and he fights to inflict damage, not to win.

Now I just wanna see “What if Goku had Split Personality Disorder.” Cause I really what to see what would happen if Kakarot Mode really was a thing.

Something to note about Trunks receiving Tapion's sword, I've never seen it as an explanation to Future Trunks having his. I always saw it as more of a parallel between the two Trunks, given Present cuts Hirudegarn's tail in the same manner as Future split Freeza in two. I assume the misconception tends to happen because the credits show Future Trunks using his + GT having Present Trunks use a sword.

@JonVonBasslake

7 ай бұрын

I think Toriyama gave FT a sword just because he thought it would be cool, without thinking that he'd have to explain it years later because the movie folks gave present trunks a sword...

2:18 Tbh I love the theory that Belmond killed Jiren’s family, because it’s got the purple aura. Nonsensical yes, but it’s still cool.

Some of the crazier theories I remember: - Offensive Ultra Instinct Vegeta - El Blanco Gohan (No, Beast is not that. Daitomodachi did it better than DBS Superhero) - Goku Black is Goten - Android 17 brought back all of the other 6 previously erased universes - Hit was still in the arena after being eliminated by Jiren

@TheUltimateRare

3 ай бұрын

the hit one of still being in the ring because of clones was just people coping that their favorite character is gone lol

Ngl I was fully convinced that the Grand Priest was going to be evil because at that point I had no idea where the series would be going after the TOP. I mean, where else would Goku go after becoming the strongest mortal in the multiverse besides fighting the Gods themselves? Yet, the series did the one thing I would've never expected at the time It just ended..

@TheUltimateRare

3 ай бұрын

He clearly is being treated as if he's gonna be fully neutral. He's the one who takes care of the omni king, so if someone evil was doing that, He would control them and make them do horrible things, due to their childlike nature.

4:30 If anything I'd say it's more likely he looked back to that moment and thought: "Hey... Those guys had something good going there, in hindsight without the fear of my own mortality, those poses are pretty cool!"

I still think the Restored Universes Theory could happen considering we haven't seen ANYTHING regarding the other Universes since Super ended

Wasn’t there a theory that Raditz was the big bad in Super Hero? Like a fake leak or something that was mostly treated as a joke

@Kobtron1000

7 ай бұрын

Yeah, it would've made no sense. But like that would've been better than giant cell tbh

@basedimperialism

6 ай бұрын

There was a fake, bluery screenshot that showed a picture of Raditz hooked up to some kind of science machine.

I just reasoned that the SSG form was what happened when they activated their God Ki in base. I like to think that they don't have enough mastery of God Ki to completely assimilate it into themselves and make it their base. So, anytime where they aren't using SSG or SSB, the god Ki passively dwells inside them.

8:23 But by the time he popped back out of this supposed time dimension, the Tournament grounds were completely empty and he had to wait for Champa to realize he's not with the group and get him...

Regarding gohan PTSD, think about this: his first public socialization has a friend struck into a house, his dad dead, and was kidnapped by his uncle. Subsequent encounters did not help, and people forcing him to fight is counterproductive to the issue

7:18 You never really know with 17 either, for all we know he may have intended: "Yes, every (not immediately dangerous) universe Zeno EVER erased since the dawn of creation."

I wish they make a new arc of DBS where Goku, Vegeta and Broly use the Super Dragon Balls to wish back Planet Vegeta and The Saiyans who were killed by Frieza and his Army, and wish back Raditz and Nappa on Earth

Ah i remember one theory being that broly was underneath the Universe 6 tournament ring or something

@basedimperialism

6 ай бұрын

No way... Seriously?

@iZetto1

Ай бұрын

sounds fun

@iZetto1

Ай бұрын

i might make a comic about that

Personal theories of mine: The wish to de-age the Pilaf Gang was only ever shown in the Battle Of Gods movie, and they weren't present for any of Z, so before the manga confirmed the wish, I had a theory that Super was their first chronological appearance, and the Gang from the OG series were time travelers from a future where Trunks died, playing gag villains to make Dragon Ball happen as intended so Trunks would survive. Also, I have a theory that Bardock's wish is the reason Goku's heart restarted when he was a kid, and the heart virus from the Androids Saga and the Future is Toronbo's consequence for Bardock's wish. One theory that isn't mine, but I really like it, is that Merus is a reincarnation of Zamasu.

@jamainegardner4193

6 ай бұрын

I have a similar theory about Goku and Raditz only being protected by Toronbo when they were weaker than the Dragon, but the Merus-Zamasu thing makes no sense because Merus is way older than Goku.

6:34 My own theory was that. Goten was from a timeline where he was born and trunks wasn't. He would be able to defeat the androids but had to cope with the loss of everyone. Zamasu would manipulate And he'd destroy mortals to create a better and perfect world

I feel like Kakarot mode, while not supported by canon, could be an interesting premise for a what if.

@kapayasiame3632

7 ай бұрын

There’s a fan manga about it. Dragon Ball After.

Honestly- why not make some what’s ifs based off these theories 👀

I remember the Hit theory and that it would've been sick to see If true, if it was as you said kinda absurd. Some theories for Super I remember was -Botamo being the Majin Buu for Universe 6 -All the Destroyers and Angels were related since the u6 and u7 G.O.Ds and Angels were. (only half of this came true). - Basil having god ki because of his fiery aura. Those are some that come to mind.

One of my theories when Blue Evolution was first revealed and we didn't know much was that it was Super Saiyan Blue Grade 2.

5:40 Or you'd just break whatever you hit him with assuming it's not a Ki infused lead pipe...

My favorite theory that didn’t come true/wouldn’t make sense is 100% goten black instead of goku black.

One theory I remember was how Jiren was basically gonna be a Superman expy, a genuine OP good dude focused on helping others. In a way he was, but the moment he opened his mouth that went out the window. Also at some point we found out that he and his crew was more likely based on sentai. I still wish he'd actually been that. The Jiren we actually got was lame as fuck.

the whole other 6 universes thing is legit the plot of dragon ball kakumei, it’s a fan made manga

I find the Kakarot theory so edgy. I mean it’s not like they’re two different people in Goku’s body. Kakarot is his real name due to being born a Saiyan, but he was named Goku due to Grandpa Gohan and is obviously known more as Goku. The only Kakarot moments are when Goku is displaying his Saiyan side like when he spared Vegeta and turned SSJ on Namek. It isn’t like Yugi with Yami nor Itadori with Sukuna.

3:11 I like to imagine that it is Trunks sword but not future Trunks sword. But rather the one Trunks used in GT

I remember when we were speculating Vegetas ultra instinct. The theory went that Goku's Ui has blue aura that displays his defensive capabilites and Vegeta would get red aura for offense . Then both saiyans would fuse into Vegito with perfected UI (that would have both red and blue auras)

I remember the theories about the Angels being evil and becoming the final challenge of the Tournament of Power or Zamasu somehow being involved via possessing Future Zeno so he could continue wiping out mortals across the universes via the ToP.

The theory that Gohan has/had PTSD is possible to me. From the cell arc he did watch his father sacrifice himself again, his friends were nearly killed (all) but trunks did die and also the seven year gap we don’t see any signs of PTSD from him but it could be hidden or a factor as to why he didn’t train as much.

@kapayasiame3632

7 ай бұрын

Honestly they could have it but DB doesn’t dwell on it. Though the character I say exhibits the signs of PTSD the most is Krillin

2:40 There always has to be a _why_ otherwise it's mostly senseless... Why would he just pop in, ruin a guy's life, and leave instantly, I doubt anyone of that world was strong enough to immediately pose a threat big enough to dispell him back to the time he got his time ring from fast enough to keep this threat localized to one planet, let alone one civilization...

This is the moment when Walter White became Kakarot

When RoF first came out, I thought that once Goku and Vegeta absorbed their god ki in base, they had actually lost access to their normal SSJ forms since their godly ki replaced their normal kI, with SSJ blue being their only form

Salad uploads exactly as I leave work. Goated day

“Offensive ultra instinct.” 😂

been waiting for something like this

Let’s go, another Salad Saiyan upload

I have a problem with Cabba being as strong as base Vegeta. In battle of the gods goku absorbed the strength of the god form in base. So does that mean they were initially close to or on par with the super Saiyan god? I get they had to scale them up to give them any relevance considering how week the universe 7 saiyans were but stiiiiill ha.

You're goated for that extreme butoden ost

When Goku was about to eliminate Jiren and lost his ultra instinct, people thought that Frieza backstabbed him somehow. But considering goku was in mastered UI, he would’ve detected Frieza’s movements

Those Times Were Something Else 😅

Interesting Video And I’m Happy Because It’s My Birthday 🥳🥳

JESUS DID HE HIT PUBERTY

oooh i like the new mic Salad

I remember when people thought goku and vegeta were going to get ssg 2 and 3 I think ssgss 2 and 3 is more reasonable as a theory

There is that possiblity that the Grand Priest can turn evil after the Superhero arc

@kapayasiame3632

7 ай бұрын

The question is why?

I remembered seeing the goten black and the offensive ui vegeta theories

I can’t believe people think I’m still stuck in the tournament of power 😭

I don’t have a crazy theory or anything but when I was first watching Z I got to the point Future Trunks is introduced, and all I knew about him was he was from the future because I got spoiled legitimately just before I started the episode. I thought he was like, Goku’s grandson or something. … Boy was I shocked.

Definitely bring up the Gohan Blanco theory next time you do a video like this

Remember when people thought that some angles are evil and they just want to arres the usless universes, because there are a few scene where they are smiling.

Still weird how that one angel smiled when his universe got destroyed, especially since he showed sinister emotion yet somehow maintains ultra instinct at all times

@kapayasiame3632

7 ай бұрын

That was the anime misleading things.

@Aimai.37

7 ай бұрын

​@@kapayasiame3632yep

I remembered these theories like yesterday good times

6:30 That makes no sense. Years after? We sure Chichi not promiscuous...

Hmmm while it’s not true Goku doesn’t have a kakkorot mode what if he did. What if Goku had one or something similar to multiple personality disorder where his minder and personality changes when he goes through certain triggers mainly rage sounds interesting to me at least

6:36 The Goten being Goku black theory started cause the out he wore was basically a darker version of the outfit he wore in Z. Combine that with people saying Goku is a bad father led some people to believe Goten was feeling left out with proof being that super didn’t do much with kid Trunks and Goten. I mean aside from the copy Vegeta filler and that bit where the two trunks interacted that was it. It was an interesting thought but that’s it. An interesting thought. Theirs even a few what ifs with that topic

I remember watching a fan animation based on the broly movie trailer when we didn't know it was broly and it was yamoshi but he was the king of all saiyans from all universes and he invented ultra instinct ☠️

most people will go through a traumatic event in life but that alone doesn't mean most people will have PTSD maybe Gohan got some good therapy in-between the cell and bus saga but I think we can all agree Rohan became the great Saiyan Man just because Toyama likes super heroes.

@SoraDonaldGoofy99

7 ай бұрын

I imagined the great Rohan Kishibe when I saw the typo doing the poses like Gohan.

@richardh9828

7 ай бұрын

And I see Theoden, king of the Riddermark! 😂

@kingfishproductions3476

7 ай бұрын

Oh I see it now. This is why I hate autocorrect 🫠

Part 2 please

But that's just a theory! A Saiyan Theory!

Can we get a What if Kami never stopped training please?

No way the notification came out on time

6:48 i agree with that

Remember Goten Black, I wish the theory was true

Notice how Salad put evil Daishinkan in the thumbnail but didnt touch upon it? Must be confirmed

"Kakarot Mode" sounds like a Morbius subtitle.

Nah, I still think Gohan did Great Saiyanman so much because he had to work stuff out it's just played for laughs. It's like how Freeza had a PTSD flashback and thought kid Trunks was Future Trunks' kid in Resurrection F tv version. Hedo, Goten and Trunks are doing it because Superheros were popular in their world like ours.

Surprised there’s a lot of Goku Black theories

You know you could do some what ifs were those theories were true?

The ginyu force giving gohan trauma is crazy lmao

It might be nice to have you pop into recent theories too and give your opinions on them

Ok, hear me out, cabba is actually U6 paragus.

What if zamasu was the north kaio of U7

@richardh9828

7 ай бұрын

That would actually be very interesting, because while King Kai has techniques, he isn't that much of a fighter, at least he isn't shown to be. But Zamasu clearly is a martial artist. The ramifications could alter everything.

@ItsZaynX1

7 ай бұрын

@@richardh9828 i wonder how zamasu will react if Goku brings him an exploding cell

Do a what if crossover

6:55 that theory actually got a fan manga made out of it call dragon ball kakumei

People thinking vegeta would have his own unique blue god form while goku kept the red. Yamoshi was going to be the villain instead of broly. One that i found odd was people thinking Goku Black was an evolved heart virus that overtook Goku's body

When Gohan was, I think four he was kidnapped by his uncle, found out that his father died, had to train with Piccolo, had to fight two powerful Saiyans and beat the crap kicked out of them. And saw bunch of fighters get brutally murdered by Nappa, pretty much, saw his father get the crap kicked out of them by a giant monkey, and then Vegeta tried to beat the crap out of them. He had to fight Ginyu force, and was nearly killed. And had to fight Freeza who pretty much killed Krillin, Vegeta, dende, and Goku went missing for about a year on a different planet. He also had to fight Cell even though he was a scared little boy forced to fight an evil monster that was literally beating the crap out of him and nearly killed them a couple times. Having trauma for all that would not be surprising that would explain why he doesn’t train as much. It just brings back bad memories of death and destruction.😱😱😱😱

One thing to keep in mind, 17 didn't make the wish. He told the GP what he wanted, and the GP made the wish. The Grand Priest most likely didn't as for "all" of the universes to be restored, rather than "all the universe destroyed in the tournament of power" to be restored.

You forgot space patrol at the pozes

Hold on is salad wearing a turtleneck?

We can see hit when they are revived after the ToP

My made up theory is what if Hercule qas actually earths worlds strongest fighter and lived up to the title "World Champion" 😂

Can you please do a What if every movie was cannon?

Heat

GOHAN BLANCO IS REEEAAAAAL

Before DBS, super hero came out, like during its first trailers, I was really hoping that Raditz, nad DKP would also come back as brainwashed androids and kidnap Pan instead. Like how doctor Heddo did with those random bodies from the morgue, they could have retconed it, so that the RRA confiscated their bodys and brought them back Winter Soldier style. In order for Raditz to then redeem himself by self-destructing against Cell max, Just for Cell max to then survive that, and trigger gohan beast. And piccolo could get his orange form after getting his potential unlocked, and fusing with mecha DKP.

Does anyone know any theories on Daima?

@TheUncivilizedNation

7 ай бұрын

Ignoring the hope for Super Saiyan 4 the main thing I see is that it’s connected to Xenoverse because Towa’s apparently gonna be in it as a neutral character

@JetYOSHI-vf1cb

7 ай бұрын

@@TheUncivilizedNation SO WAIT could that mean we could get a version of a Cannon DBH with xeno verse characters

@TheUncivilizedNation

7 ай бұрын

@@JetYOSHI-vf1cb yes, in theory. If Towa’s actually in Daima and the Demon Realm is explored in canon then it could connect to Xenoverse and or SDB Heroes

When people thought goten was goku black that was a crazy time

I mean True Ultra Instinct can be counted as Offensive Ultra Instinct so ig the theory was kinda right but on the wrong person

Trunks sword shi I always think about like they too similar

I will always refer to the angry Goku when he becomes badass as “kakarot”

Who this ppl with star?

@Bengt2509

7 ай бұрын

members

I was the first one to like the video!

about the Goku turning into kakarot when he gets mad, thats not something only for goku, pretty much every saiyan goes berserk when mad, Gohan when turned into super saiyan 2 instantly killed all the cell jr without thinking twice, and was acting like namek goku throughout most of that fight, also vegeta in the same saga got so mad at trunks death that he went all out against Cell without thinking twice, same for when he got mad at beerus for hurting bulma, thats not a goku thing thats a saiyan thing

I can actually see why zamasu would attack Jiren. Jiren wanted to be the strongest ever so maybe in a different timeline he got that wish by winnig the tournament of power and zamasu seeing that doesn’t want to let that happen so he goes back in time and maybe in different timelines as an attempt to kill Jiren or just change the course where he doesn’t win the tournament.

gohan blanco