11:09 Dream was not the one who gave immortality to Hob. It was Dearh who granted it. Dream can't grant immortality. He specifically said so (while narrating) in Sleep of the Just. Dream says of Roderick Burgess that "he pleaded for gifts that are not mankind's to receive nor mine to give." All Death did in the White Horse pub was ask Dream: "Are you going to tell him, or should I?" And I don't think this implies in any way that Dream can grant immortality. Giving Hob immortality was Death's gift to Dream. Or, perhaps she gave him this ability this one time as a gift for the sake of their wager. But I don't think so.

@UncleTonyK

Жыл бұрын

You took the words right out of my mouth Wolfie. To say that Dream granted immortality is a gross mischaracterization of what both Dream & Death are capable of. It also gives the mistaken impression that Dream can exercise his will in Death's domain. Though, it is clear in both the comic and show that Death is the older and more powerful sibling.

@NemoConsequentae

Жыл бұрын

And the episode was not at all incoherent. At least, I followed it perfectly well. But then I was not at all confused by _Pulp Fiction,_ either...

@zod4365

Жыл бұрын

@@NemoConsequentae yeah, that episode was the most jarring, emotional, and evenly paced. The only part I was thinking about afterwards, was that Death knew she was the target for the summon and just brushed past it...

@NemoConsequentae

Жыл бұрын

@@zod4365 I was hoping for her to use the line, "You get the same as everybody else. You get a lifetime." Which I _thought_ was from that scene. Have to go check the copy on the shelf.

@gaunten

Жыл бұрын

@@NemoConsequentae me too, but it’s from brief lives I think, or some later issue anyways. The scene is pretty much word for word like the book, minus the baby speaking of course.

I disagree with your opinion about episode 6. It was beautiful, heart warming and very interesting. It also slowed down the pace so the rose arc has a chance to develop without getting overshadowed by the first 5 episodes.

@arian512

Жыл бұрын

But in the end we have seen the same thing with death in many many other media. Death's dialogues were not really immersive it was like she was performing a theater piece and saying them to the watchers not to dream. It felt flat and repetitive. The second part of E6 was really good. We have seen the concept of endless, immortals, gods and etc. But this one here felt unique and awesome. How hob never gave up and perhaps as My GF said dream learned hope from this guy to defeat lucifer. Oh and the fight with lucifer was so idiotic and flat and open to discussion that it shouldn't have been done like that. I mean despair does defeat hope so lucifer didn't think of that?

@TheAnga27

Жыл бұрын

@@arian512 with the hope thing my immediate thought was to think about the myth of Pandora, the only thing which stayed in the box was hope because humanity would never lose hope. I don't mean that's why they did it but simply that they're using the ever so charming hope will always be somewhere no matter how much despair sentiment

@arian512

Жыл бұрын

@@TheAnga27 Nice analogy, but doesn't hope cease to exist when there is no loving thing? I mean as philosophical as we can get, hope even as an abstract thing would need a living thing to exist.

@TheAnga27

Жыл бұрын

@@arian512 yes, yes you could view it that way and I would find myself personally being more fond of the hope can die take but, to play devils advocate. If we look at other dialogue in the show atleast, death saying she'd lock the place behind her if everything did die we could assume hope would then carry on throughout her within logic of the show perhaps. If she would in fact not cease to exist without anything out there to die.

@Robotechgorillaglue

Жыл бұрын

@@arian512 this is explained better in the comic. Its because creatures of hell don't understand hope.

The Sound of her Wings was incoherent?! The first part is showing Dream how Death does her job and the Men Of Fortune (2nd half of the episode) showcases what it would be like when Death granted Hob Gadling the gift of immortality and he has to meet him every 100 years to see what has happened. In this, Dream learns what it's like to be human and no matter the ups and downs Hob goes through, he always manages to make it work. The first half shows Death doing her duties and sadness and the 2nd half showcases hope via Dream and Hobs meeting through the centuries.

@Kyrrial

Жыл бұрын

I have a similar opinion to you of this episode. I think it was my favorite, actually, since I'm a bit done with all of the depictions of Death being an evil, malicious entity. I thought it was done really well, and the two parts actually felt like two distinct episodes to me, such that I forgot they were only a single episode until watching this. Hobs and Dreams "friendship" is actually something I hope we get to see more of in season 2 (I've not read any of the comics, so I have no idea if he makes another appearance or not).

@ModernSalesTrainingTeam

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think MarvelousVideos was wrong to say that. That episode was amazing, and both of those issues worked well together to highlight the contrast between "when it's your time to go (Sound of Her Wings)," and when that time never comes (Men of Good Fortune).

@daneg007

Жыл бұрын

i don't get why they called it incoherent either. i haven't read the comics, so even though it wasn't exactly the most exciting episode, it did a lot as far as character and world building. then again, the writer of this video called uncle barnaby a "controlling dad", instead of an abusive monster. so we can probably just chalk up the "incoherent" comment to the fact that the writer is a complete idiot.

@durgadivinewrath8879

Жыл бұрын

I have caught up with the graphic novels after the fact. I loved the Hob episode, and many others I know have expressed the same. It adds background context to Dream, and why finally he starts to evolve despite being "Endless". It is fun and uplifting and leaves us excited to see what happens next. What more could you ask from an episode of anything?

@erikred8217

Жыл бұрын

yeah. Tis this video that is a little 'incoherent' not to mention inaccurate. MV misses the point of ep.

"Men of Good Fortune" is one of my favorite stories. I liked how the story was adapted on the show.

@Companion92

Жыл бұрын

Same

Episode 5 and 6 are the most memorable for me. Ep 5 was shocking and horrifying. Ep 6 was heart-warming.

@sebastianwar7936

Жыл бұрын

Glad you said that, I saw the 'FIGHT' between him and Lucifer and though.. well, that's pretty SHIT and gave up. I might go back and watch it pass those episodes

@Steve.Maverick

Жыл бұрын

Then it all went downhill when he was no longer the main character

@karkarrot5786

Жыл бұрын

@@Steve.Maverick i disagree id say it continued its great story bc there was more than 1 main character

@jozen1986

Жыл бұрын

The series peaked at 5-6. Agree it was my favorite eps too.

@arian512

Жыл бұрын

Episode 5 was nothing we haven't seen and it was the same thing without adding anything to the concept of not lying, or human manipulation

I think the writing was brilliant. Combining different short stories into one season and connecting these was well done.

I found episode 6, The Sound of Her Wings, brilliant. It was beautiful and touching.

Episode 6 was my favorite, and i felt combining the two stories worked great. Death brought up Hobbs, which reminded Dream he had missed his last meeting with Hobbs.

@05acoyn

Жыл бұрын

It was one of the best episodes of television I've watched in a long time . I didn't find it to be incoherent at all it was charming and humbling . Each to their own of course though .

@StarryMidnight

Жыл бұрын

5th & 6th was soooo good!!

@Mondilicious

Жыл бұрын

mate so true

@danbongard3226

Жыл бұрын

@@05acoyn Same here.

@songsayswhat

Жыл бұрын

I thought the ocmbination worked great, too. It worked really well. Hobb is alive becaues of Death. The episode started with Sound of Her Wings which features Death. It made sense to include Hobb's story there.

The Sound of Her Wings was my favorite episode of the season. I cried twice. It may have been inconsistent but I didn't think it felt tonally incoherent at all.

@Redchoboboy

Жыл бұрын

Cried too esp w the baby

John Dee also lies and eventually kills Rosemary in the comics and the entire vibe was chill, whereas in the series the viba throughout the car ride was increasingly tense, and Rosemary is not killed.

@duvan.deschain

Жыл бұрын

What an amazing exercise in tension. Both killed it. Amazing episode for sure.

@munashemanamike4217

Жыл бұрын

I'm kinda glad he didn't it would've hurt my heart too much

im glad they did not use any contacts on tom bcs his eyes gave life into the character and gave us so much information also i like how his eyes always glimmer and watery through most of the episodes because it shows how much hope he has. he is dream after all !

Lyta lacking here platinum hair is annoying but I still love the fact that Lyta was included was amazing!!!! John had to look bleach blonde, however it’s logical that Johanna was made so if and when John does appear I hope they use Matt Ryan. Plus usually apart from Ryan no other live action Constantine has been good, sorry but Keanus Constantine wasn’t blonde, or a working class person or Liverpool. I think we also forget that John does have a sister so it would make sense that other Constantines occultist members could exist. I love Gemma

@JoeKerr019

Жыл бұрын

I think she will get the hair out if trauma

@TheMimiSard

Жыл бұрын

I heard there was a licensing issue around John Constantine, so Johanna was also a way to step around that.

@TheMimiSard

Жыл бұрын

Also, on Lyta's hair, having dark hair ironically makes her look more like Diana's daughter.

@donpula6349

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMimiSard Thats true, the only way to get it, is to ask WB. Except they won't able to give it to them due of using the character for their other version. Their so called JJ Abrams Constantine HBO Max series for the DCEU. Thats the problem. So Neil and the Netflix sraff made the alternative...

@viderevero1338

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMimiSard Really? That's more reassuring then. I just thought they'd decided to change the character's gender for some form of "inclusiveness".

I disagree with you on "The Sound of Her Wings." I found it beautiful and powerful.

A fair rundown of the series and I agree on the whole… except for three major points 1 episode 6 was a solid and faithful adaptation and the two narratives fit each other perfectly as they both are central to the character Death. Not only that but among comic fans it is viewed as one of the best in the series so see thanks to the portrayal of Death as she perfectly embodied the maternal and empathic elements of the character 2 though correct regarding the licensing the inclusion of Johanna Constantine is NOT a gender swap as she is an actual character from the comic, John is her descendant and she does play a huge part in the Sandman mythos 3 the setup of full release isn’t all that taxing and if you like the show enough and as we are all familiar with binge watching it is easily possible to watch more than two or three episodes without a break

@rhov-anion

Жыл бұрын

I just watched the whole thing in two days... in the middle of the week! Had I waited for the weekend, I likely would have finished it in a day, although I do often watched 1 episode at a time: watch one, go do laundry, watching another, play with my cat, watch a third, go make food, etc. I don't like to sit for more than two hours at a time.

@fohat50

Жыл бұрын

good to know about Jo Con cause it pissed me off, i thought they had gender swapped John Con, thanks for clearing that up and i watched them all at once and loved six best, beautiful stuff 'its rude to keep ones friends waiting' a great line so well delivered and received. i was so glad they found each other and that he admitted it at last.

I thought Netflix’s The Sandman was a surprisingly good adaptation. I still prefer the source material, the Audiobook from Audible and “DC Showcase: Death”, but still it was good as a show and as an adaptation. It was faithful for the most part (Considering the fact that Geiman was part of this), the cinematography was beautiful, the soundtrack was great, the special effects were pretty good (Some were really bad imo) and the majority of the actors did a nice job. Only big complaint is the camera format of the show. It looked too square for me. I don’t know how to explain this 😅 I’m kinda sad that this wasn’t a animated series instead tho. After watching that incredible Death animated short film (Which is amazing btw) made me imagine how the entire story would’ve looked like if it was animated. That would’ve been super cool. Still, i’m glad that we got this and i can’t wait for season 2 to come out 😊

@UncleTonyK

Жыл бұрын

I wholeheartedly agree about the audio drama. Imo, that's the best telling yet. What Neil Gaiman and Dirk Maggs did there was nothing short of wondrous. The only audio productions I've heard that compare to Sandman have all been Dirk Maggs productions. I get where you are coming from regarding to the cinematography. With a project like this, I think that creators have got to find a happy medium between too little and too much CGI. They could have easily (and justifiably) gone CGI crazy. But, it would have been trading emotional depth for a light show.

@viktorvondoom5950

Жыл бұрын

I agree.... it was a relatively good adaptation, but there were too many changes made which ultimately ruined the experience for me. For me, the graphic novels still remains one of the best DC arcs Ive read, with actual DC characters making guest appearances.

@viktorvondoom5950

Жыл бұрын

@@UncleTonyK Honestly, I feel that if this was done in the 80s or 90s, Im sure the visuals would have looked cheesy but surreal, but the source material would be more closely followed

@onepresence9460

Жыл бұрын

@@viktorvondoom5950 Oh yeah definitely. The Sandman graphic novels still remains amazing to this day.

Neil Gaiman said once he never thought the Sandman would would work as a movie or at all other than on paper. He also said he would rather it be not done at all than be done bad.

@ronniejdio9411

Жыл бұрын

He also worked on American gods so I'd say he lost the plot a decade ago sadly

@tyranticus5163

Жыл бұрын

Then Netflix showed up with a big bag of money

@luxlightly6833

Жыл бұрын

@@ronniejdio9411 He actually did NOT work on American Gods, a fact that he has expressed major problems with on multiple occasions. He has gone on record as being REALLY upset about the handling of American Gods and that's part of why he insisted on being an actual PRODUCER of Sandman so he would have creative control, which is why The Sandman is 1000% more faithful to the story he wrote than American Gods is. Maybe, know what your'e talking about before making dumb and very incorrect statements?

@ronniejdio9411

Жыл бұрын

@@luxlightly6833 did he write America gods and its pseudo sequel ,? Did he sell it ? Who should get the blame for how bad it was botched? Neil was involved Moreno in season one and two bit he was involved and didn't shit talk it until it came out and absolutely sucked. Authors can dictate how their material is produced. Or they can get a check and let the company make it . Which did Neil do? Because giving him a pass for that shitshow is bs whennhe was involved in promoting it from day one

@luxlightly6833

Жыл бұрын

@@ronniejdio9411 No he definitely had threatened to throw himself in front of a bus over creative choices they wanted to make with the storyline LONG before the show came out. Honey, hollywood has a HISTORY of taking advantage of authors on the cutting room floor. If you don't know that you know nothing about the history of book inspired movies. Sorry you're so hateful, bitter, and ignorant of what you're speaking on. . .like most of the internet these days.

I binged the entire series in one day. loved it and can't wait until season 2

@uglystrawberry

Жыл бұрын

Read the comic

@PoppieXL

Жыл бұрын

I did the same exact thing.

@tn-cj9cc

Жыл бұрын

@@uglystrawberry I tried to read the comic but it's hard for me to wrap my head around.

@tn-cj9cc

Жыл бұрын

You say season 2 like Netflix isn't awful about canceling shows after a season.

I understand why such changes as were made, were made. One commentator on Twitter nailed it with her observation that the actors were cast for vibe, not appearance. Despite some significant changes, there were scenes and images enough that were so completely straight from the comic book that I often found myself tearing up at their realisation in three dimensions. Over and above the storytelling, this series is beautiful to watch. Even if I'd never read the comics, I would have been blown away by the incredible visuals. This series is nothing short of triumphant.

@chuckysmaria6466

Жыл бұрын

Normally I'm a stickler for sticking to gender and ethnicity especially when it has to interact with "reality", but the changes were either inconsequential or applied to supernatural being. Lucian-->Lucienne. Except Unity, seriously a super rich black family in ww1 in Britain. Really? And Johanne constantine... a female ancestor of johanne constantine in 1789 retaining her family name in the current year. I understand they want to use same actress for the flashback, but why not use John constantine. I'm still on the fence with Lucifer, the actress is good. It also helps that "detective lucifer" pretty deviated from source material. But I was expecting the blond dicless angel from the comics

@donpula6349

Жыл бұрын

@@chuckysmaria6466 They are not allowed to use the character due of character and creative licence, that WB still have it and they refused to give it to anyone. Also WB using the character for their so called JJ Abrams Constantine HBO MAX series for the DCEU so Neil and the staff of Netflix made the alternative. Bad luck...

@chuckysmaria6466

Жыл бұрын

@@donpula6349 So the reason we can't have an accurate portrayal of comics to movie is because of a bunch corporate pencil pusher... Well that s**ks

@chuckysmaria6466

Жыл бұрын

@@donpula6349 PS I realize my previous comment is missing. Why Susan Wikiwiki? Why?!!!

@donpula6349

Жыл бұрын

I know how you but it sucks that the licence is still restricted from WB for many reasons. You know WB...

I like it very much 🤘🏼hope we don’t have to wait 🤨10 years for a second season

@yoda908

Жыл бұрын

Or another 30 years.

@jumni.k

Жыл бұрын

Same here 😥😥

@WereGururumon

Жыл бұрын

I’ll wait as long as it takes for them to reverse race sway death and reverse gender swap Constantine…. YUCK!

@EnsignPissBoots

Жыл бұрын

They're already writing the second season luckily

@benignoalvarez9398

Жыл бұрын

@@EnsignPissBootsyeah that’s going to take a long time 🤨

I love the fact Tom looks like he’s constantly holding from back bursting into tears

I’m sorry did you say episode 6 was incoherent?? That was the best episode in the series !!

David Thewlis played John Dee in the series, a character in the comics known as Doctor Destiny. This character also appeared in the Animated TV show Justice League, epsiode "Only a Dream". Jed is observed watching Justice League in the hotel room durring the second last episode of Sandman. Bit of a conflict there.

Johanna Constantine in the comics is the ancestor of John Constantine. Why she was in the present day instead of her actual place in the timeline, being 18th and 19th century england, is most likely since they couldn't get John, but from what i understand she isn't just a genderbent version of John, rather an ancestor in a different time than usual

@DieAlteistwiederda

Жыл бұрын

Neil stated that it isn't a genderbend and they just swapped the two characters. Probably really just because they couldn't get the rights or something who knows. I didn't mind it.

@stevebatley9012

Жыл бұрын

Exactly. Too many people are screaming about gender and race swapping and for the most part the reasons given are logical and in this case especially. Johanna is part of the Sandman Universe and is the ancestor of John. The commentary is right about the licensing but wrong about it being a swap

It would have been cool if when Dream's face was cast in shadows you'd see one little white pin prick in his eyes against inky black.

@Kyrrial

Жыл бұрын

I think something like that would have been a very good middle ground between the comics always-on starry eyes version to the very rare instances of glowing eyes in the show. Now that I read this, I'm disappointed this isn't the route they took.

@FlowerEmblem

Жыл бұрын

They did do that in Alex's dream. Hopefully we'll see more of it.

Those first few episodes are so, so good. I love occult themed stuff and comics. This show is amazing. If you have not watched, you are really missing out!

@tsoupakis

Жыл бұрын

that exactly, the first few episodes, then suddenly become a heartless boring woke trush. it’s amazing how they destroyed everything in a breath. dreams arc and characters was ok. watchable and interesting most of the times, the moment his arc finished and the new started was rubbish.. from the antagonists to the new protagonists it was so empty and uninspiring. lost time i lost so fast interest in something was the first episode of the second season of west world

his "controlling" father? controlling? i would hate to see what the writer of this list considers to be abusive. does the kid have to start losing limbs before you consider it more abusive than controlling? lol.

I really liked Sandman, the few things I did not like about it can be found in the Vortex story. I thought it had too many circumstances that could not be explained and too many "last second" events. It might follow the comic perfectly, I would not know, but the rest of the season was better imo and I would definetly watch season 2 and 3 as long as they are as good as season 1.

@skyeperez8305

Жыл бұрын

Almost all of the vortex plot follows the comic (except for the Lyta portions). Unity’s end is the same but does happen differently as Rose’s mom is alive and it’s only 3 generations of the family (not 4) that exist. Corinthian is a little more explicit in his influence of the “collectors” in the comics but I like that they changed it just for his existence among humans being enough to create that much trouble. However, in the comic he isn’t the one who saves Rose and Jed from Fun Land, that would be Dream himself as Gilbert tells Rose to say “Morpheus” should she be in trouble as he picked up on her being a possible vortex.

Cant wait for season 2, hope they do the cat story!

@svanemy

Жыл бұрын

I hope so too. I am wondering how they will make it, if perhaps they go for pure animation, or the more realistic style.

People hated the "Token casting" of death. But she was by far my second most favorite character of the show.

@johnnyferalcat896

Жыл бұрын

My only complaint is that she wasn't goth

@craxyman9025

Жыл бұрын

OK...but she wasn't the iconic character that we fans have known for a 2 decades. This seems to only go over people's heads when a white character is race swapped but is an outrage when the opposite happens. Imagine if Marvel made the Falcon white. Or War Machine. There would be a Twiiter meltdown.

@arcturionblade1077

Жыл бұрын

Death being a goth is not even the main point of her character. It's her kind and caring nature, and the actress that the show hired did a great job in displaying Death's warm and positively gentle personality. I could totally buy people being comforted by her words and calmed by her appearance even after the shock of dying, so the actor did a phenomenal job, I think.

@johnnyferalcat896

Жыл бұрын

@@arcturionblade1077 but it's a missed opportunity, because black goth people don't get really any representation, she is known as a goth character, she's a love to character in The Goth community, I staple icon of goth, and they erase that

@brandonbaerga4972

Жыл бұрын

@@craxyman9025 I wouldn’t even say white like death skin is way paler then anyone has so they should gamora her ass and get a white that’s white white lol

Absolutely disagree with your conclusions about episode 6. It was simply two episodes in one, two perfectly executed episodes at that.

I'm just gonna shout here because there are sooooo many fans that read the comics and knew what/who The Sandman was and/or DC comics. I ABSOLUTELY LOVING THE SANDMAN SO FAR. I AM ON EPISODE 5 NOW. I DID HAVE TO PAUSE IT FEW TIMES TO TAKE THE STORY IN WHILE I DID OTHER THINGS AROUND THE HOUSE. ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT CASTING SO FAR. JUST BRILLIANT. STORY IS INCREDIBLY FLUID. LOVING IT A LOT. THANK YOU. *whisper* marvel fan but love this.

Out of all the comic adaptations I have watched (most of them) this is best one I have seen. It stays very close to the source material and the changes don't rip the comic fan out of the story. I thought the actor that played Dream nailed it and while I wish they had stuck with the eggshell white Death wearing all black the actress they chose did a good job of giving the feel of Death from the comic. There is an impish playfulness with the ability to be empathetic instantly. She did a great job portraying that feeling.

Sandman's pale complexion was based on Robert Smith's face 35 years ago.

I absolutely binged this series. For me, the real tell of a fantastic Netflix series is do I want to rewatch it. Sandman is rewatchable because it is so visually rich. It helps to not have concentrate on plot.

@mackenziehaney989

Жыл бұрын

I've seen it three times now 🤣 I keep showing it to friends

I bought the Sandman comics as they came out, not in anthology, individual comics. Unfortunately, I sold all my comics to fund a house move, which I regret. I remember a special issue with a glow in the dark cover. I have watched the first episode of Sandman on Netflix and will watch more tonight. I hope it does justice to the comic. Alan Moore always said comics and film are different mediums. He took no royalties from the films and gave them away. That is extreme, but he is the creator, so up to him. But after Watchmen and Dark Knight Returns, Sandman was the biggest seller. I hope it all goes well.

@TheLadyDelirium

Жыл бұрын

Did you watch it? What did you think?

@DecMc

Жыл бұрын

@@TheLadyDelirium I thought it was very well done. The same as American Gods TV series, by Gaiman, only different. I did not fully understand American Gods, especially the last 2 episodes. I never read the novel. But Sandman was relatable. Yes, they changed Death from pale white to black, but Delirium was exactly right, androgynous and creepy, And a back stabber. Also, the Corinthian was pitch perfect. So scary. They have so much more from the comics to mine, I would definitely watch another series.

I didn’t like how they replaced John Constantine with Johana.

@pongobok3000

Жыл бұрын

Why

@GaboObando

Жыл бұрын

John was restricted by Warner, so Neil went with the character he created as a replacement, altough he confessed that he wanted to use Johanna anyway.

@mystaniceguy

Жыл бұрын

@@pongobok3000 cause John Constantine is a DC legend. Would have been cool to see him live action.

@agm5424

Жыл бұрын

They should have just made her the same Victorian era Johanna Constantine that is somehow still alive by the modern era and make her Sherlock style high class detective archetype as opposed to John Constantine's hard boiled down in the rough detective archetype. But all we got is a gender flipped bad copy of both John and the real Johanna, while the latter (og Johanna) just gets a two minutes appearance and no true development of story and character, again.

@jasongarcia1886

Жыл бұрын

Me too

I liked Johanna Constantine, because it makes it seem like this is taking place in a different universe. And that's why characters are different.

I'm glad Sandman got a tv series adaptation, It was about time to adapt Sandman,I want Dream of Endless to appear in DC comics cartoons that would be cool

Now they need to make Gaiman's inspiration for Sandman, Piers Anthony's Incarnations of Immortality.

@Luciopiacenza333

Жыл бұрын

Gayman? No thanks.

@fierro7771

Жыл бұрын

I remember those books from when I was a kid in the early 80's. Did Gaimnan rip them off? Sounds like it

I absolutely adore Netflix for doing this, for wanting the author, for keeping close to the story but changing this that honestly feels just as right as the original.... Can't wait for season 2 ... just let us know which books it will incorporate.... that is my only plea, because I will wait till i put the chairs on the table, turn the lights out and lock the door behind me 😉

Episode six was easily one of the best in the season though.

American Gods was AMAZING!!! I personally dont feel like it failed. 😫 I thought casting also was absolutely amazing !

My thoughts watching Sandman: DUDE STOP PUCKERING YOUR LIPS

@fanmc1712

Жыл бұрын

🤣same.buf it made his face round when he doesnt.

I thought episode 6 was fantastic! One of the best small screen experiences I’ve ever had!

Episode 5, wherein Dream and Death have an prolonged, insightful, Well acted, well edited, well written, time on screen is profoundly well done. Furthermore, this so-called review does nothing to explain why this episode was particularly weak or somehow degenerate to the other episodes. It’s interesting, when one looks to other sources the episode that this reviewer claims is the weakest is often seen as one of the strongest. Therefore, I must wonder what the real reason the claim of episode five being degenerate might be? Might there be some deviation from the source material involving Death that this reviewer just can’t seem to stomach? Sad and inaccurate review of a profoundly well done and well written story.

@roberts5539

Жыл бұрын

I agree with your view of episode 6 (The Sound of her Wings) as a good one. It developed Dreams character, and explained why Death didn't intervene in Dream's imprisonment. The short vignettes of Death's work was enough as a glimpse into her role and how she overcame her own loneliness. "I don't do it alone." I don't see the reviewers comments as unjustified though, as we see stories differently, depending on our own live experiences. The review's value is in seeing the show through someone else's eyes. I disliked 24/7, I felt it was insufferably boring. Maybe because I knew what was coming. Others seem to like it.

@DieAlteistwiederda

Жыл бұрын

So far pretty much everyone I've talked to stated that the Death and Hob combination episode was their favorite. Those two stories work well together in my opinion as they serve to humanize Dream and show how he has changed and how he interacts with the world around him. The split of the episode did not bother me after the first few seconds where I had to figure out what we were doing now in the show

I hope the show doesn’t try and link Sandman universe with the wider dc universe. I think it works better isolated from the traditional super hero stuff.

@karkarrot5786

Жыл бұрын

they only have homages like jed watching static shock, the action figures, etc

My first dip into this was the Audio book #1 and I really enjoyed it. I then found out about this show and I watched all of it and then I bought the whole 5 Volumes of the books. It takes me a while to read things but volume is awesome. I’m glad I got into this.

I found Netflix's Sandman INCREDIBLY unsatisfying. But I couldn't figure out why I felt so unsatisfied until I went back and read the comics. What Netflix gave us is the same thing that Disney would give us if they adapted H.P. Lovecraft's "The Dunwich Horror". The comics are dark. Disturbingly dark. For me, watching this show was like biting into a delicious ribeye steak only to find out that its really just cotton candy in disguise.

@TheLadyDelirium

Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed it on a surface level of seeing some scenes and places come to life but it can't possibly compare to the comics. It genuinely felt life changing when I first read them but I can't imagine the series having the same effect.

Rose's actor lost me at the very end. But the first act of season 1 was very very good. Even if it was changed a bit.

@brucenatelee

Жыл бұрын

Her acting was kinda stiff, but also her and Lyta came off as selfish of wanting something they know they had little knowledge of having at everybody's expense.

It was an "ok" adaptation for me. The only thing I had issue with is the distracting genderswaps and some of the episodes, namely the last 2.

@pab1381

Жыл бұрын

I thought Johanna was a descendant of John? Now they want a spin off of her. Idk dude I didn’t care for this.

@bawsnitti

Жыл бұрын

@@pab1381 I had a hard time watching it too

@__-vu8io

Жыл бұрын

They had a lot of LGBTQ people in the original comics but with the gender swapping netflix added even more, outside of the Magus were there any straight characters? lol

@Nhawk316

Жыл бұрын

This....it was too woke for me

@anastasiastellar2658

Жыл бұрын

@@Nhawk316 In anime there's a lot of our biggest phobia... "woeke" yet we love it 😂

The Sandman needs a "Cassern Sins" type animation. Perfect atmosphere

I watched and rewatched all ten episodes in two days. Lol!

episode 6 is my favorite episodes 7-10 were good but a lil preachy and honestly wasn’t a fan of the vortex she just didn’t seem like the right casting choice and wasn’t a fan of the acting but overall looking forward to next season

@Steve.Maverick

Жыл бұрын

I didn’t like how he became a backup character

@Solo_Ascension

Жыл бұрын

@@Steve.Maverick was thinking the same thing didn’t get the amount of screen time a mc would get compared to the vortex and other side characters

Can be a 5 season series about to read the omnibus as well

The only thing I don't like is the whole rights about Constantine

omg love this series especially the dreamlord...desire is awesome totally great job in having the actors match the characters cannot wait for the next season!! i love the bird matthew so cute!!

I haven't read the comics, yet, but as a stand alone story I'm all in. The entire underlying concept is fantastic and it borrows from so many myths, legends and theological concepts, to form this surprisingly deep `examination` if you will, into human nature or perhaps the `human condition.` I was particularly intrigued with Desire and Despair being what appears to be a play off of Buddhist theology. "desire and ignorance lie at the root of suffering." While suffering and despair are not exact synonyms, it's pretty close.That they are twins, is brilliant. Indicating they came into being at the same time. One, lying at the root of the other. I look forward to more seasons and I think I'll read the comics up to where this season ends so as not to spoil any future seasons of the Netflix series. It's also encouraging that this is all based on comics because even if Netflix cancels this, I can still read the story.

I wasn't sure if Sandman was related to DC. Thought the Constantine, Astra, and Mazikeen connection was coincidental, like Christian mythology or something, mainly because I didn't think of Johanna being "female John."

@lastknightofhonor8998

Жыл бұрын

I was Bullshit, gender swapped John Constantine

@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive

Жыл бұрын

In the comics John Dee didn’t escape from some unnamed psych ward from Buffalo, NY. He escaped from Arkham Asylum from Gotham City.

Am I mistaken or was it not death that gave gadlin immortality and not dream?

Awesome👍 i love the evolution of Dream

I really didn't like that they gave a crucial part of John Constantine's origin story to Johanna C., specifically the Astra incident wich is a very fundamental and personal event in John Constantine's background. They've missed the chance of making something original out of Johanna C. like making her the actual ancestor of John that is somehow still alive after hundreds of years and make her archetypically close to a classical victorian/high end detective as opposed to John's hard boiled/down in the rough detective archetype. But nope they did a supergirl again and just basically turned her into a gender flipped John and thus a bad copy of both John and the real/original Johanna Constantine.

@L0ngThanh

Жыл бұрын

Yeah , her story becomes literally John’s with more blank personality

@shaycormaic5365

Жыл бұрын

Agreed

@organfuneralcovers

Жыл бұрын

Its the nutdicks adaption. I can't even watch it. It looks so bad. John was my favorite DC character until rebirth when they turned his comic into a gay interracial romance comic. Dc and marvel are dead.

@peacemen6460

Жыл бұрын

Yes this what i need to read they ruin my boy John Contastine RIP.

@perry7777

Жыл бұрын

The actress is a wet noodle. They couldnt even get the jacket right.

Funny enough episode 6 is my favorite

That is such a wildly hot take you snuck in there about episode 6 lol. It’s the highest rated episode of the series by far, and I think you’re the first person I’ve heard knock it like that.

I watched the series and it's pretty good. But after you think about it a bit afterwards it's pretty crazy how many fatal, easy to exploit weaknesses lord of dreams has. He can be summoned and trapped relatively easily, he is pretty inept without his tools that can be stolen. He can't even easily find those tools :D:D

@S....

Жыл бұрын

There is a reason why he was captured so easily in the first place - he spend a massive amount of power rebooting the universe, after he fucked up and everyone went mad and started killing each other. And as for other weaknesses - it's the netflix series that made him so dumb and pathetic, things were different in original works and made more sense.

The show would have been a marvel if it was animated

@shaycormaic5365

Жыл бұрын

Lmao no

@donpula6349

Жыл бұрын

Marvel? Oh no they're not good at that. They're good at their lived films, but DC on the other hand were good at their animations and style that which Marvel were jealous and tried to compete them. So the DC will do. Remember Death DC showcase?

@viderevero1338

Жыл бұрын

@@donpula6349 No, he meant the actual word "Marvel". Like "Excellent, or Amazing". Not the literal company Marvel. LOL

There should be a video explaining each and every "horror host" characters of the DC Universe. They are: Cain and Able (The House of Mystery and The House of Secrets) The Witches Three (The Witching Hour) Destiny (The House of Secrets?) Lucien (The House of Secrets?) Death (skeletion soilder version from Wierd War Tales).

i keep hearing about lyta being ww daughter but I'm pretty sure that isnt the canon in the sandman universe. pretty sure that was a back story from decades before.

I have the first 9 comics original. Excellent.

the main difference is that it's pretty much divorced from the dcu i also wouldve cast someone much younger for death

@mandolorian162

Жыл бұрын

Death was amazing

@chuckysmaria6466

Жыл бұрын

Aside from ethnicity what is death's actual look? I've seen a teenager version of death and a young woman version. I know that they don't "grow old".

@thewkovacs316

Жыл бұрын

@@mandolorian162 she is a good actor, but in the comic, dream goes out of his way to note that death is his older sister and gaiman and the artists go out of their way to make her look and act younger. it's about irony...and that is lost with a 35 year old actor

@thewkovacs316

Жыл бұрын

@@chuckysmaria6466 all of the endless can choose to look how they want. it's why anyone upset at gender or race swaps is nuts...it's just that i miss the irony of seeing dream with an older sister who appears to be much younger than he is.

@chuckysmaria6466

Жыл бұрын

@@thewkovacs316 OH Yes. Death pretty much have these weird opposite characteristics She's older and acts as an older sister, yet appear younger than most of her siblings. She wear goth cloths but is vibrant and full of life. Her sphere of influence is life and death yet her personal domain is a humble room. Fitting characteristics for someone who embodies life and death.

Also you could not be more wrong in your estimation of the 6th episode. You'll note in IMDB it's one of the most highest rated episodes. So, sorry you failed to understand how beautifully moving it was, but clearly most of the audience did.

It was an amazing adaptation, the only thing I sort of disliked was using the same actress for Johanna Constantin twice - it felt confusing, got me wondering if Dream said he met modern day Joahnna's ancestors or Johanna was somehow made immortal by him, too.

@tearodman

Жыл бұрын

Jenna Coleman had played lots of versions of her as Clara Oswald in Doctor Who, lol

@ChangesOfTomorrow

Жыл бұрын

@@tearodman yes, how does that relate to a completely different series? If I was to take into account it would only further add to the confusion considering all those Claras were different versions of the same person and not relatives

@tearodman

Жыл бұрын

I think it's a common resource used on TV and I'm ok with it. Outlander and supernatural as I recall used the same resource.

The BEST thing this series did, was throw us that bone-us episode, for those of us that binged it quickly and were immediately thirsty for more! I can’t wait for season two. I’m ready to see an “Endless” war.

This show really has DIVERSITY slapped on its front

@robkern9255

Жыл бұрын

Ok, I thought I was the only one who noticed this.

@jerryhenderson6818

Жыл бұрын

Every thing is interracial or the dark characters are the ones with most power or the perfect person. Opposite of reality . No wonder why people worship blacks.

@karkarrot5786

Жыл бұрын

@@robkern9255 you would have to be an idiot to not notice the diversity but you cant say it made the story worse bc they acted their parts well regardless

@chrish2883

Жыл бұрын

I don’t know the source material but every episode every new character everyone was gay/lesbian… at some point it just became completely unrealistic n I stopped watching

@Imozart0341I

Жыл бұрын

@@chrish2883 I was about to for the same reasons but then i thought about it, they’re demons, they have no sexual preference.

_"Far from flawless"_ is certainly a kind way to put it. I don't begrudge others enjoyment of it, but I found it terribly lackluster, and many of the changes outright distracting. _Sturrage_ had the right look for Morpheus, to be sure. And I hope non-readers found the show serviceable. Sadly, I didn't.

@pab1381

Жыл бұрын

They made way more characters gay then they needed to. Some I understand but the entire diner scene everybody was gay aside from one person.

@bawsnitti

Жыл бұрын

I found the show drab and borderline unwatchable

@Mrsierramist1

Жыл бұрын

@@pab1381 Ton of gay characters in the comics. It has been some years, but I read the comics and also loved the show. I have some nitpicky things, like anyone will when consuming media, but the changes didn't bother me.

@forksssss8483

Жыл бұрын

@@pab1381 good god shut up. Are you really that pissed that a bunch of gay people were on screen for like 30 sec?

@luxlightly6833

Жыл бұрын

Condolences on your sense of taste.

Did they show Martain Manhunter and Mr Miracle?

Thanks. I need to find the comic book.

In Comics, not everyone was gay.

@danielmolnar1558

21 сағат бұрын

Just say you didn't actually read the comics.

These aren’t creative change’s they are budget and political changes.

since i didnt get to read the comic, it will just be Pure Fun.

I'm bothered by a very intentional softening of the way much of the imprisonment in Sandman is shown. The specificity of the obvious references to drug addiction ruining a person and their life, as well as some of the more fantastic magic immagery is left out of the Constantine episode, and I'm sad about it. I think the extended fantasy exploration of what drug use has to do with the need for dreams and detachment from reality and the honest look at the havoc drugs can reek is really in need of the humane but unflinching look it gets in the comic book, so I wish the series had preserved more of that. It's part of a larger trend of a certain gritty representation being softened and removed. One of the visual themes in the comic book is seeing character after character emaciated and imprisoned in squalor by truly malicious people. Rachel (or the Constantine story), Jed, Calliope and Lita Hall (from the Hector and Lita Hall story) are all imprisoned or self-imprisoned in this way and all but Calliope are literally fleeing these destroyed real lives for better ones in their sleeping dreams. I think this emphasis on the contrast between the rand dreams of power and freedom people escape into and the daily neglect and abuse they may never escape as they dream is a dose of reality which is a shame to lose in The Sandman. Regardless of where they go with Lita and Rose Walker, I do kinda wish we'd met her like in the comics and that she'd woken up in the impoverished and forgotten state she did in the comics. In the comics, she is a bored housewife being kept by Hector in his world and only barely suspects something mst be off. The comment on the suburban American dream there is something I missed seeing explored in the show.

I think the differences made the series. Things that work in comics don't always work on film and otherwise. They used the medium well without changing the source material from the comics too much or unnecessary

Even before watching this I can tell you the title is OBVIOUS clickbait cuz as a huge fanatical fan of the comic I can assure you there are no "major" changes. All changes were either to edit out DC characters they didn't have the rights to, to make it more suitable for the screen, but mostly to EXPAND the storyline and add to the impact. This is the MOST true to the comic adaptation that has EVER been made, and trying to pretend otherwise is frankly doing a huge disservice to the industry and the fans.

@luxlightly6833

Жыл бұрын

And indeed after watching every "change" you cited was not only NOT "major" but were made for the reasons I already stated.

@rinxmacaroni2085

Жыл бұрын

Ikr, the story is basically the same

This episode was stellar.

@fanngurl164

Жыл бұрын

Episode 6

If you did every story it would be like supernatural, with 15 seasons. I would watch that but, yea it was real good. The potential to get it wrong was high.

The gender swapping and change in how I expected the characters to appear were too much for me too enjoy the series. I wanted to love this show too.

@thesenate4815

Жыл бұрын

Straight people were a minority in this show. It looked like a parody

@ganjalord42

Жыл бұрын

@@thesenate4815 the only straight white man in the show is foster black kid beater

@dbrennan1523

Жыл бұрын

I couldn't stand when they did that to Lucifer. One of the complaints to my wife. I didn't like when they gender swapped the angel in Constantine, and I didn't like it with what they did here. Also, while she was good in game of thrones she is NOT beautiful, and Lucifer Morningstar was supposed to be the most beautiful Angel created by God. Not only was it piss poor to gender swap the character, it was also horrible casting.

@dbrennan1523

Жыл бұрын

@@thesenate4815 I made the same comment above. It was like every 3rd person was gay. They even forced straight people to have gay encounters in the diner. They even brought in a gay story line of the cook and the waitresses son, even though the son is not even part of the story at all, you don't even get a flashback to see him. There was ZERO point to add that in there other to add another gay component to the story line. Describing it as a parody is very accurate.

@livrowland171

Жыл бұрын

@@dbrennan1523 More than every third character! Almost every character whose sexuality was shown/mentioned was gay or bi!

So what you get to see here from the comics, the Netflix adaptation seems pretty tame in comparison. Oh, and why does he only use that weird helmet once in the series? (Would it be too easy to find certain people otherwise?).

@songsayswhat

Жыл бұрын

I don't remember him using the helmet much in the comics, but it's been years since I read them. I may not remember correctly. I want to say he saw the error he made by investing so much of his power into objects. I don't remember him using them much as the series went on.

@jobowisheshewasnomo4171

Жыл бұрын

i think in the comics he absorbs his tools because like lucifer said, relying on tools is a trap.

Good news. Sandman is going for a 2nd season :D

Episode 6 was incoherent? Crudely mashed up? This was the point i checked out on the rest of the video. You're welcome to your opinion, but that episode was a damn masterpiece to me that perfectly juxtaposed two disparate tales and introduced my two favorite characters from the series. Not much need for me to sit through anything else here if your opening bid is to denigrate something I loved so much.

As a fan of the graphic novels, I did like the series in general. However… strong mixed feelings about the casting. Some were great, but many were awful and made no sense.

@goblinsuburb

Жыл бұрын

which castings didn’t you like?

@thesenate4815

Жыл бұрын

Also straight people were a minority. It broke inmersion

@lordoffaiyum9727

Жыл бұрын

@@thesenate4815 lol always the case now. I can't watch it anymore. Its a war on hetero in the world. Rather disgusting

@S....

Жыл бұрын

@@goblinsuburb Dream, Constantine, Fiddler's Green were great. Doctor Destiny was ok. The rest are mistake.

@goblinsuburb

Жыл бұрын

@@S.... how so? i thought the casting was great. death and destiny were especially good, despite how much people complain about them. i also thought corinthian was good. honestly i can’t really think of a casting decision i’d change

Nah, gender flips was to make diversity quota. Just wokelese. Thanks for the content.

What I don’t understand is the source material had a spin off about Lucifer moving to earth. That Lucifer got picked up by Netflix years ago but when they adapt this source material it’s from they chose to cast Lucifer Morningstar as Gwendolyn christie not the already established Tom Ellis?

Background song name?

ROSE's STORY WAS MOST BORING.. FOR ME SANDMAN ENDED AT EPS 6.. AFTER HE MEETS DEATH.

First 6 episodes were fantastic...last 4 ...no so much

Some interesting points, but also many significant assumptions that damage & interfere with the attempted criticism. It ends up feeling choppy, disjointed, & further from an usable point than the review it contains.

of the trillions of planets in the multiverse why specifically earth

In the comic, Sandman doesn't fight Lucyfer or eat Cain & Abel's pet. I didn't like the look of Death in the tv show. The comics have a ton more detail. I kind of like Joan Constantine.

@luxlightly6833

Жыл бұрын

Death is literally wearing the exact same thing she wears in the comic during that scene. So if you didn't like her "look" you MUST mean "the color of her skin" because that's the only difference and that speaks VOLUMES about you.

@MrGhst-np4zf

Жыл бұрын

Tf u mean u didnt like how death looked?

@Reingnus

Жыл бұрын

Yes, I dont like her being black. The only reason that they made so many of cast black or gay/lesbian it was to fill a clear political agenda like Netflix usually does. Do not delude yourself thinking otherwise.

@luxlightly6833

Жыл бұрын

@@Reingnus Sandman was ALWAYS really diverse. It's not like they took a bland cishetero white cast and made it all black and queer, they added a few extra POCs to the cast to make it a little more representative, and it hurt the story in no way, in fact it only made it better.

@Reingnus

Жыл бұрын

@@luxlightly6833 okay, tell me. How did this forced inclusion made anything better. Please explain to me, cause the only thing that I see is making someone black or gay for political reasons. Yes, I know of the original having inclusion, but here they went overdrive for no reason at all. If anything, it makes the message that they wanted to convei in the comics something disgusting and even racist by forcing it where there was no need. Just tell me what would you think if Falcon, Black Thunder or Black Phanter would be casted as a white dude. It would be just as preposterous. I do not hate diversity, what I hate is when they try to force it down my throat. It is disgusting and bad taste.

They race and gender swap so much its really upseting

@luxlightly6833

Жыл бұрын

LOL, they're literal dreams bruh! Dreams don't give af about race and gender and are likely to swap it any moment. Have you ever even had a dream before? Literally everything is changing constantly. Sounds like you've just got some personal issues to work out.

@dbrennan1523

Жыл бұрын

@@luxlightly6833 Lucifer Morningstar is not a dream. *HE* is the most beautiful Angel ever created. There is nothing about personal issues here. The character of Lucifer has it's own lore. It is one of the oldest characters we have. Thousands of years old. Gender swapping Lucifer was disappointing, that they did it with a Mediocre looking woman instead of a beautiful one was a huge failure. Not only did they gender swap but they did not respect the lore... although they flaunted in our faces by describing her in the damn show as the most powerful and beautiful angel... then showing a mid-range looking woman.

@luxlightly6833

Жыл бұрын

@@dbrennan1523 You really just showed how little you know. Lucifer is an angel. Angel's have no gender. Neil's original concept for Lucifer was an beautifully androgynous figure much like David Bowie's early folk singer days. The fact that you don't know this shows that you have NO clue what you're talking about and are really just a misogynist PRETENDING to be a comic fan and proving that you actually aren't. Lucifer has no gender to "swap". Anyone playing lucifer is technically gender swapped because they HAVE gender and Lucifer does not.

@dbrennan1523

Жыл бұрын

@@luxlightly6833 So I hate women because Mark, James, and multiple other books in the Bible refer to Lucifer as “he”? A couple thousand year old interpretation of Lucifer as “he” and because I follow this lore I’m hateful to women? You’re a clown.

@Reingnus

Жыл бұрын

You still did not disprove his point tho. It was a misscast, the girl its not a pretty woman. They just choosed her because she is hot stuff from GoT, but frankly speaking, they could had chosen better. Also, its okay if you like big fat veiny dicks. Its fine, for real. But do not force that idea on us by making everyone and their mother gay. This is not equality, this is privilege.

Sound of her wing was the best episode, I don’t get how you can’t like it

I cried after the Gilbert scene .