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The “cutest” cartridge in our holiday series, the 6.5 Grendel, is not to be overlooked because of its size. As our in-house cartridge expert Ryan Muckenhirn discusses with Jimmy and Mark, this little guy is as sweet-shooting as they come with an incredibly efficient design, super light recoil and excellent packaging in an AR platform.
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  • @dougcutler4948
    @dougcutler4948 Жыл бұрын

    I love this efficient little round. I just wish the ammo makers understood it's potential popularity and made it readily available.

  • @LRRPFco52

    @LRRPFco52

    9 ай бұрын

    Over 100 factory loads and growing.

  • @dougcutler4948

    @dougcutler4948

    9 ай бұрын

    @@LRRPFco52 Where can I buy it at a reasonable price?

  • @LRRPFco52

    @LRRPFco52

    9 ай бұрын

    @@dougcutler4948 Have you heard of ammoseek? You can order PPU 120gr MPT and Hornady ELD-M for about $1/rd right now.

  • @iamnotpaulavery

    @iamnotpaulavery

    8 ай бұрын

    @@dougcutler4948 SSG ammo!

  • @iamnotpaulavery

    @iamnotpaulavery

    8 ай бұрын

    WTF...my comment on the hornady black and sst rounds disappeared!! Anyone see where it went??

  • @BlueCollarRay
    @BlueCollarRay2 жыл бұрын

    I’m a Grendel fan. Glad it’s finally catching on. We tend to over do things. The Grendel is a good example of not overdoing it.

  • @GenScinmore

    @GenScinmore

    2 жыл бұрын

    I totally agree, which is why it even has a high barrel life compared to other 6.5s like the Creedmoor. High efficiency is the best term used to describe the grendel.

  • @davejhotch

    @davejhotch

    2 жыл бұрын

    Just got back from a deer harvest in south Texas with my HOWA 6.5 Grendel. I was pretty impressed with how efficient it was. Low recoil, deer was dead before it hit the ground.

  • @livingintheLight.

    @livingintheLight.

    2 жыл бұрын

    Finally catching on? I've had one for 6 years, even had a type 1. They even make cheap Russian ammo for it

  • @MrRdvs87

    @MrRdvs87

    2 жыл бұрын

    Yea, for me, it’s just enough and maybe a touch more. Most of the deer I have killed could have been taken with a .357 mag carbine if I really wanted to go the minimalist route. Cool thing about the grendel is that I can still deliver good (not world beating) power out to distances I almost never shoot in the south east.

  • @samthai818

    @samthai818

    2 жыл бұрын

    Deer harvest? You are full of shit.

  • @dr.froghopper6711
    @dr.froghopper67113 жыл бұрын

    The Grendel is everything that the 5.56 wants to be.

  • @borkwoof696

    @borkwoof696

    3 жыл бұрын

    No, not really

  • @cugir321

    @cugir321

    Жыл бұрын

    Except it's got no shock wave. Like Uncle Ted dressed in a pink toto

  • @dr.froghopper6711

    @dr.froghopper6711

    Жыл бұрын

    @@cugir321 but Unca Ted is a singular bird!

  • @Paulito941

    @Paulito941

    9 ай бұрын

    ​@borkwoof696 yes really the 223 isnt good at anything...like the nickelback of ar rounds...popular lots of people like it but it sucks 🙂

  • @midwestbd7144

    @midwestbd7144

    6 ай бұрын

    My grendel will never replace my 5.56. .223/5.56 parts and ammo are so common and cheap that it’s hard to heavily invest in any of the other AR15 calibers.

  • @raywells2858
    @raywells28582 жыл бұрын

    One of my favorite cartridges hands down!!! The older and wiser I get the more I find myself appreciating the more efficient chamberings.

  • @concernedaussie1330

    @concernedaussie1330

    2 жыл бұрын

    Same . I have a howa mini action & it’s a fantastic little rifle. A very cheap ultra light hunting rifle .

  • @user-ob7mt5ht2u
    @user-ob7mt5ht2u3 жыл бұрын

    Ruger has been offering the American Predator series 6.5 Grendel bolt gun since 2018! And they added the American Ranch series Grendel the end of last year.

  • @ssgslaughter4639

    @ssgslaughter4639

    3 жыл бұрын

    Right I was like pulling my hair out when they didn’t mention the ruger Ruger ranch!! I’ve been drooling over their 6.5cm predator for the last 2 years and finally built it last month with a magpul stock and timney trigger 😁now I want a 6.5 grendal ranch for my boys and nephews to play around with on the farm.

  • @calvinborer6572

    @calvinborer6572

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@ssgslaughter4639 I did the same thing, definitely a whole new animal with the Magpul stock!! I have a ranch in .223 didn't know they made one in grendel might be next on my list.

  • @soonerfrac4611

    @soonerfrac4611

    3 жыл бұрын

    6.5 Grendel: modern day 6.5 Arisaka.

  • @zeedub10

    @zeedub10

    3 жыл бұрын

    Picked up the American Ranch in 6.5 Grendel. Superb.

  • @bradleys2320

    @bradleys2320

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@soonerfrac4611 interesting. I just saw a Type 44 in a local pawn shop and wondered where that 6.5x50 would fall in caliber comparisons.

  • @DanielBoone337
    @DanielBoone3373 жыл бұрын

    I love the 6.5 Grendel I built an AR15 to hunt with this year mainly because of the hog problem we have down in Louisiana... So far I've shot 2 deer and tons of hogs with it and it hasn't let me down yet!!!!

  • @kyle18934

    @kyle18934

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is the hog population going g down with hunting, or are they still growing?

  • @240SSONLY

    @240SSONLY

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kyle18934 it will never go down in numbers unless there is a government incentive for hunters. Sows can breed several times a year, they are ready at a young age and can do 4-6 piglets average... we might have dented the population in the US, but not enough to make a difference. So I expect to see wild hogs in norther states in less than 5 years

  • @thesouthernlife4061

    @thesouthernlife4061

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@kyle18934 You can't get rid of these hogs down here I hunt sherburne and it's ridiculous they are killing the deer population and have demolished the turkeys I havnt seen the first turkey since they invaded they eat the nests turkeys already have a very low poult survival rate add hogs and it runs them into extinction sherburne use to be full of turkeys and deer it's going to sht and they won't do anything about it they won't let people hunt them year round or trap them they put out a few traps and claim they use a helicopter to shoot them during summer but it's to many woods no way they can kill many from air and I've seen their trapping they suck they will never get rid of the hogs unless they take extreme measures were going to lose a very good piece of public land to hogs if they won't allow hog hunting in summer I say make everyone kill 2 hogs before they are allowed to kill deer every year which won't be hard to do and maybe it will knock them down a little

  • @kyle18934

    @kyle18934

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thesouthernlife4061 thats crazy! those suckers should be hunted until they are nearly gone. they are not natural, or play nicely in the enviroments they inhabit.

  • @kyle18934

    @kyle18934

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@240SSONLY what do you think would be a good incentive to get people to hunt them?

  • @wj9954
    @wj99543 жыл бұрын

    I've had a 6.5 Grendel for the last three years and love how it shoots. I changed to a 24 inch barrel made by X caliber with 7 twist and rifle plus 2 gas. It puts 129 grain ABLR's out at 2540 fps with AR Comp powder. I've sighted it in at 200 yards and hit everything I shoot at with it out to 700 yards, I haven't shot at anything beyond that because I haven't seen anything I want to shoot at beyond that range. I am 75 and really don't think I want to try to run down any animals at that range anymore. I like this in the AR platform, nice to my shoulder that has survived two replacements also.

  • @crawford323

    @crawford323

    3 жыл бұрын

    Impressive

  • @ReconMan772
    @ReconMan7723 жыл бұрын

    Have been using the grendel for 6 yrs now , it's the only round I use for everything from , pigs to deer and even my kids use one too .. best all around cartridge for what we do here in FL, an Ga

  • @AwkwardYet

    @AwkwardYet

    3 жыл бұрын

    300blk for my area.

  • @miamislice3280

    @miamislice3280

    Жыл бұрын

    I also use this round on my kids

  • @YaketyYakDontTalkBack
    @YaketyYakDontTalkBack3 жыл бұрын

    Nice. A highly efficient episode on a highly efficient cartridge. 6.5 Grendel is my preferred choice in the AR15 platform. Glad to see it getting some love.

  • @nospam3409
    @nospam34092 жыл бұрын

    I've been running a 24" Sanders Armory upper for 3 years now and absolutely love it. My pet load is a 105gr MKZ over a stout charge of N530. It runs around 2850 (with a .490 BC) and holds 1/2 MOA or better. Took a prairie dog with it last year at 600 yds. I've filled all of my (Indiana firearms) deer tags with it for the past 3 years including a very heavy quartering shot on a decent 8 pt last year at 297 yds. Total pass through right through the heart. Love the cartridge and the load. Its so accurate its boring... ;)

  • @BlueCollarRay

    @BlueCollarRay

    Жыл бұрын

    Amen

  • @russdennis7026

    @russdennis7026

    Жыл бұрын

    I love my Sanders 6.5G upper for my DD lower. Plenty of energy for deer at 350+.

  • @ghosttimm420
    @ghosttimm420 Жыл бұрын

    I have more 6.5 Grendel rounds for my AR than any of my other guns combined. With the efficiency of a 5.56/223 round and the stopping power of a 308 round, it’s truly an incredible round! 🤘

  • @harpreetsinghpannu408

    @harpreetsinghpannu408

    Жыл бұрын

    What is Max and effective Firing range of the 6.5 Grendel?and how it fares when compared to 6.8*43mm and 6..8*51mm Sig Fury?

  • @anthonykaiser974

    @anthonykaiser974

    Жыл бұрын

    @@harpreetsinghpannu408 it's designed for an AR-15 - where the 6.8 Fury is an AR-10 - and it outranges a 6.8 x 43 SPC because of the long higher BC bullets. It's exterior ballistics are better than typical 7.62 x 51.

  • @harpreetsinghpannu408

    @harpreetsinghpannu408

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anthonykaiser974 So, typically the 5.56*45 mm round is getting replaced by the Sig Fury round..

  • @anthonykaiser974

    @anthonykaiser974

    Жыл бұрын

    @@harpreetsinghpannu408 so they say. But that's only supposed to be in line infantry, where our guys would expect to run into body armor issues. SIG Fury full power ammo is 80,000 PSI, which is Magnum levels.

  • @harpreetsinghpannu408

    @harpreetsinghpannu408

    Жыл бұрын

    @@anthonykaiser974 5.56*45mm round is not giving good results actually even after being hit the tangos r still returning fire,same experienced by the Indian army in ci ops..

  • @stephenhair5501
    @stephenhair55013 жыл бұрын

    Love the 6.5 Grendel cartridge!! Highly efficient, you nailed it.

  • @nathanbennion6678
    @nathanbennion66782 жыл бұрын

    My 2nd AR build was an 18” Grendel. Love this round.

  • @dalemyers9045
    @dalemyers90452 жыл бұрын

    I have Grendels in 12, 16 and 20" barrels. Love them all!

  • @codya5333
    @codya53333 жыл бұрын

    6.5 Grendel great cartridge for an ar 15 platform.

  • @justinlance4174

    @justinlance4174

    3 жыл бұрын

    Or ak. Or bolt guns

  • @justinlance4174

    @justinlance4174

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@stewartrun vepr makes a 6.5grende akl. Csspecs makes 6.5grendel ak magazines. Definitive arms makes a 6.5grendel ak that takes ar15 mags. Lee armory also makes 1

  • @skeet330

    @skeet330

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@stewartrun I heard the Serbs are modifying their aks to shoot 6.5 grendel

  • @codywitt2718
    @codywitt27183 жыл бұрын

    Love my Howa 6.5 Grendel. Ive shot bowling pins at 1200y and killed mule deer and antelope with it.

  • @estebahnquantum9350

    @estebahnquantum9350

    3 жыл бұрын

    Wow ! Sami it's 6.7 . It's going for 2 dollars or more round . I saw 20 rounds hornady for 85 dollars . this bullet is on par with much bigger bullets which I find incredible . I'm goung 2 a round I want 338 lupa match king 225 grains for 2 to 4 dollars round . Your telling me the gren : ) is on par with lupa ? : 0

  • @justinlance4174

    @justinlance4174

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@estebahnquantum9350 wolf makes 6.5grendel 26cents a round. Ppu makes 6.5brass cased hunting ammo 50cents a round. Before the ammo shortage i was getting 500rds of wold miliitary classic for 125$

  • @jwhmerica504

    @jwhmerica504

    3 жыл бұрын

    My howa won’t shoot better than 3 Moa.

  • @codywitt2718

    @codywitt2718

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jwhmerica504 1MOA guarantee send it back because mine and a buddy bought 20” HB barreled actions and put them in Boyd’s stocks and they flat shoot.

  • @jwhmerica504

    @jwhmerica504

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@codywitt2718 i guess I could look into that. I got mine as a barreled action and put it in a Boyd’s stock. It’s still min of deer I guess.

  • @buckaroobonsi555
    @buckaroobonsi5552 жыл бұрын

    6.5 Grendel is a gem or diamond in the rough. It is the red headed step child that almost no one seems to know about!

  • @ferret19731
    @ferret197313 жыл бұрын

    Howa mini action 6.5 grendel, shooting 123 gr Hornady SST. 240 yard shot, skimmed the facing shoulder, caught ribs upon entry, both lungs and heart, ribs upon exit, just missed the second shoulder (arm pit exit wound) about ⅝ inch. Deer took 2 jumps away for a total of maybe 30 feet before dropping.

  • @davejhotch

    @davejhotch

    3 жыл бұрын

    My HOWA mini action with the 20” heavy barrel is a freaking tack driver. Can’t wait to put it on some meat at the ranch.

  • @bwoodward0012
    @bwoodward00123 жыл бұрын

    6.5 Grendel was the first chambering I assembled an AR15 in. Built it with a 16” barrel for hunting out of a climber, and I’ve since acquired a Howa mini in 6.5 grendel as well. Great cartridge for whitetail, especially in southeastern Va where my shots are almost always inside 200 yards. I also have a 6.5 PRC, but the size and weight of my grendel rigs usually win out when I’m headed out to the woods, plus they’ll be great starter options when my kids get old enough to hunt

  • @Swampytheroot
    @Swampytheroot3 жыл бұрын

    For an AR, 6.5 Grendel is the most perfect choice between Evils. And it does them all stunningly well

  • @barrelmaker3930
    @barrelmaker39303 жыл бұрын

    Love these 10 minute talks.

  • @christianfontaine2946
    @christianfontaine29463 жыл бұрын

    I'm absolutely loving these cartridge reviews

  • @BrassJeep
    @BrassJeep3 жыл бұрын

    CZ 527 American in 6.5 Grendel is one of my favorite rifle cartridge combos I own, and I have a few. 😁

  • @jtelevenoyd1571

    @jtelevenoyd1571

    3 жыл бұрын

    If CZ chambered either the 527 Carbine or the 527 Carbine Synthetic in it, I'd have to give it a good hard look. As it is, I may just go with a 6.5 Grendel AR.

  • @BrassJeep

    @BrassJeep

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@jtelevenoyd1571 I’m still debating on what AR platform to get it in as well.

  • @LRRPFco52

    @LRRPFco52

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@BrassJeep I have spent a lot of time with everything from 28" down to 12" Grendels. What are you looking to do with it?

  • @blujthewombat

    @blujthewombat

    3 жыл бұрын

    I have the 527 MTR in 6.5 Grendel and it's a great rifle

  • @bustersmith5569

    @bustersmith5569

    3 жыл бұрын

    I just bought a CZ in a 6.5 Grendel,,,, can't wait to shoot it,,,,, 527 mountain 26" barrel 😀

  • @Bshwag
    @Bshwag3 жыл бұрын

    I own 3 rifles in 6.5 grendel and one is a very nice cz 527 bolt gun my hand loads are averaging 2820 fps. I really like the performance, I have hunted caribou in alaska for 4 years with it and it does a great job.

  • @MrBarramundi
    @MrBarramundi Жыл бұрын

    Yep. Loving the grendel in Australia gents. Thanks for the talk. The grendel rules at night.

  • @The340king
    @The340king2 жыл бұрын

    I am finishing up my Grendel build with ammo testing. Hornady Black 123 shoots very well, along with the Nosler 123. Both hold about the same at the 100 yard sight in range.

  • @cm-pr2ys
    @cm-pr2ys2 жыл бұрын

    The ultimate in ar-15 ammo. Greatest range, power, and lightest ammo an ar-15 can fire without any external modifications. A polymer cased 6.5 grendel is probably the fist major change we'll see to military small arms in the near future. In the far future, the future is going to be either 6.5 grendel CT, 6.5 creedmoor CT, or 6.8 spc CT. For now though? 6.5 is easiest, cheapest, and most impactful small arms change we could make.

  • @concernedaussie1330

    @concernedaussie1330

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe the 6mm arc in that mix.

  • @djl5634

    @djl5634

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@concernedaussie1330 6arc is good. But overhyped. Highest bc 6arc is Hornady 108 grn match ammo. Velocity 2670. Bc .536. 6.5grendel has Federal Gold Medal Match Berger 130grn. At 2550 bc 560. So higher bc hevier bullet moving almost as fast. And 6.5grendel has cheap ammo available like wolf ppu and s@b. Maybe if 6arc catches on more I would consider it. But both are supersonic to 1200yds. But cheap ammo is more of my concern as I doubt I'd ever need to shoot past 800yds. Maybe even 600yds. In any real world scenario. And if I did I wouldn't use either preferably

  • @concernedaussie1330

    @concernedaussie1330

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@djl5634 yeah all good points. 6.5 Grendel & 6mm arc IMO are great little rounds worth investigating, especially with polymer case technology. Saving weight & efficiency, coupled with down range external ballistics , use of already existing platform systems is a great stop gap measure. From what we are seeing in Ukraine right now , I don’t believe we need the new 6.8 round. Far overkill, Russia’s body armour & or any of their systems aren’t performing the way most people thought. To be honest I was quite shocked by their poor performance “ or Ukrainian “ fantastic performance.

  • @djl5634

    @djl5634

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@concernedaussie1330 we aren't that worried about Russia. More like china. It produces 80% of the body armor in the world it's cheap and very effective. I have a 30 06 specifically because it can pierce body armor better than 308. And factory laloaded M2 AP at 2750fps can be stopped by level 4+. Only when u upload it to 2900 can it Pierce level 4. So I see the need as common as body armor is becoming and as fast as it's advanced. Not to mention drones might be lightly armored and may be part of the army's consideration

  • @concernedaussie1330

    @concernedaussie1330

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@djl5634 well my country will be flat out even arming It's self, in a war with China . Terrible state of affairs .

  • @mrhemmer
    @mrhemmer3 жыл бұрын

    Nice durability test, Mark. Keep it up guys!

  • @andy347495
    @andy3474953 жыл бұрын

    Fun watching a video on the 6.5 grendel, thanks. glad you guys did it. Speaking of Alexander arms, if you guys could, it would be interesting if you did a video on his (knights armament) pdw rifle.

  • @basilmiller931
    @basilmiller9313 жыл бұрын

    Got a 6.5 grendel AR-15 18" barrel love it.

  • @rmbettac
    @rmbettac3 жыл бұрын

    Such a cool little cartridge!

  • @Fishcop669
    @Fishcop6697 ай бұрын

    Just built a 6.5 Grendel with the Ruger American Ranch action and 16" barrel, timney trigger in a MDT LSS-XL chassis with ARCA rail topped with a Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8 FFP EBR-8. So excited to get it tuned up for my kids!

  • @slasher302
    @slasher3023 жыл бұрын

    My first/only AR-15 build was in 6.5 Grendel. I added some other uppers since, but that flies flat and true, and hits a ton harder down range, while kicking less than 300 blackout.

  • @jx83xparten6
    @jx83xparten62 жыл бұрын

    I have a Cz 527 in 6.5 Grendel. The mini Mauser action paired with the single set trigger is one of my favorite rifles in my collection!

  • @t3hm4zn

    @t3hm4zn

    9 ай бұрын

    The 527 in 6.5 Grendel is the most underrated rifle ever. Absolutely gorgeous rifle, and the Grendel is a truly special caliber. There's a reason it's rare to find them for under about $1400 now.

  • @keithjanke4321
    @keithjanke43213 жыл бұрын

    Ruger does make the American Ranch and Predator in 6.5 Grendel. And you must do a #10minutetalk on the 6.8 SPC next!!!

  • @taylorcleblanc

    @taylorcleblanc

    3 жыл бұрын

    They would get like 5 views for that. For some reason this thing has dropped off the face of the earth.

  • @crowbranch

    @crowbranch

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@taylorcleblanc A lot of hype surrounding the 6.5 caliber lately probably has a lot to do with it. A myth has been propagated that the 6.5 caliber has better BC bullets than larger calibers. The opposite is true. Though the bullets that the Gendel is capable of firing do have higher BCs than the SPC is capable of firing. I own both. Have a 6.8 SPC in a 16" barrel and a 6.5 Grendel in a 24" barrel. When it comes to hunting Whitetails, I'll grab the SPC everytime. Neither of these are powerful cartridges, so I would never fire over 300 yards with either of these. Probably much less. At that range neither cartridge has a significant advantage. For long range target shooting or maybe varmint hunting, I would grab the Grendel. In this video the guy does a good job explaining some of that SPC advantages VS Grendel advantages. kzread.info/dash/bejne/dqt7z7RvYK3YmJM.html

  • @andrewslagle1974

    @andrewslagle1974

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@crowbranch i hunt white tail on my farm in newyork state easily out to 500 no problem clean kill !

  • @crowbranch

    @crowbranch

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@andrewslagle1974 Good shooting. The longest shot I can get on my land is the field which is just under 300 yards. This is another reason I will grab the much lighter 6.8 SPC build I have. Don't hunt fields much anyway. My 6.5 Grendel is a 24" Alexander Arms Overwatch upper. Very heavy. No advantage for where I hunt. Don't get me wrong. I like the 6.5 caliber but since buying the Grendel I purchased a 6.5 Creedmoor AR10 upper and a 6.5-284 bolt action. These are the guns I would prefer to use at long range due to their flatter trajectory and increased energy over the Grendel and SPC. The 6.8 SPC is my woods gun. Haven't used the Grendel upper in a few year and have considered selling it.

  • @ditzydoo4378
    @ditzydoo43783 жыл бұрын

    The CZ 527 American in 6.5 Grendel and 7.62x39 are wonderful bolt actions with both hammer forged barrels and actions that are stand alone true caliber length actions called Mini-Mauser. Shooting Times did a write up on the CZ rifle in 6.5 Grendel and it was nothing less than Stunning to say the least for all the different handloads as well as factory loads they fire through the rifle. As I remember out of about 20 different mixed loads, only one load grouped larger than 1-MOA (1.078") at one hundred yards consistently.

  • @dwwest8168
    @dwwest81684 ай бұрын

    Love my 6.5 Grendel in a Howa 1500 mini-action. Taken 4 deer with it. You do your job; it'll do its job. I also have an AR upper in 6.5 Grendel.

  • @awbernardy
    @awbernardy3 жыл бұрын

    I love the Ruger American Predator with the chopped 18.5" barrle and the Vortex Strike Eagle 1-8×... 31.0gr of CFE-223 and 123gr SST makes for a very nice set up... 1/2 MOA for me out to 300 yards... and hit Milk Jugs out to 600yards... love the 6.5 Grendel

  • @rudolphferdinand3634
    @rudolphferdinand36343 жыл бұрын

    I LOVE the 6.5 Grendel, the period over the 6.5 CM; the 6.5 Grendel light recoil. shooting hand loads w/120/123 grains projectiles from a 24" barrel 2650 fps.

  • @arhunters1936
    @arhunters19363 жыл бұрын

    This caliber has good field data from us in real life & live tissue examples. 8+ Elk have been killed with it from 150yds to a max of 480yds using 18" barrel as the shortest and mostly out of 24" barreled uppers. My 15yr old son took a Cow Elk at 480yds with a one shot kill to the neck. Furthermore its taken - 3x Antelope, 2x Nanny Ibex, Barbary Sheep, a Whitetail, and Javelina. It is a fantastic youth hunting caliber or a first timer and even female hunters to mid-range distances and in. For us the sweet spot ballisticly is the factory Hornady 123gr SST. It is Big Game capable with correct shot placement and appropriate distances respected. Like I said we are good as a Max of 480yds on a Elk and shot placement has to be precise... most probably should not go over 400yds. There has been a Cow Moose taken with it in AK as well. We have plans to get it on a Bear soon and potentially a Moose of our own with it in the future as well. The appeal for youth hunters is ballisticly it carries a great payload but is low recoiling so it doesn't hurt, scare, or create bad habits in youth or small framed shooters. Its affordable so they can get lots of range time to create repeatable and confident good hits. Glad it continues to get spoken about. I just got a 12" barrel and so we will see what a short barreled version of this can do. Join our Group on MeWe to follow those who hunt with AR platforms! mewe.com/join/arhunters

  • @ElderGuy729
    @ElderGuy7292 жыл бұрын

    I’m sold. Time to do a 6.5 Grendel build!

  • @VortexNation

    @VortexNation

    2 жыл бұрын

    🤜🤛

  • @andycronin6170
    @andycronin61703 жыл бұрын

    Love this stuff. Now, .17 Remington. You guys do a great job reviewing cartridges everyone already has. Let's go with one everyone SHOULD have. The very underrated. 17 Remington.

  • @michaelwhitfield5731
    @michaelwhitfield5731 Жыл бұрын

    My first AR build was in 6.5 Grendel. I got hooked after taking my first pig with a buddies Grendel. Was sold on it after that. Mine was built with an 18"" Atheris Barrel. Took almost a year to get the barrel but well worth it. Talk about a tack driver this set up is it.

  • @larrywilson6555
    @larrywilson65552 жыл бұрын

    My last built was the 6.5 Grendel I sold my AR 6.5 Creedmoor and my AR 308 because they were on the AR 10 platform both bigger than I wanted to use for hunting The 6.5 Grendel is great for the hunting I do.

  • @jimlerum
    @jimlerum3 жыл бұрын

    Love the round!!

  • @michaelsarkisian1047
    @michaelsarkisian10473 жыл бұрын

    the 6mm ARC is a direct descendent of the 6.5 Grendel, and the 224 Valkyre is a direct descendent of the 6.8 SPC. Also pistol (12.5 inch barrel) AR Grendels are still whitetail getters at 300-400 yards

  • @ravissary79

    @ravissary79

    2 жыл бұрын

    I actually wonder if the 6 arc might be better in 12" or a pin/weld 14.5, sure the narrower bore means inferior powder burn per barrel length, but it being a faster round than d syol hyper efficient case, means it has more velocity to spare for bullet performance, albeit with less mass/diameter, so perhaps less penetration, but wider performance envelope of a given expanding bullet from an sbr.

  • @BigfootUnibrowMan

    @BigfootUnibrowMan

    Жыл бұрын

    I feel like a 6.8 SPC would be better for hunting in a smaller size barrel like that🤔

  • @ericj6636

    @ericj6636

    6 ай бұрын

    The 224 Valkyrie should've been a 6mm SPC IMO

  • @michaelsarkisian1047

    @michaelsarkisian1047

    6 ай бұрын

    @@ericj6636 there is a 6.5 version of the Valkyrie

  • @Fallout777
    @Fallout7772 жыл бұрын

    Great video guys thanks.

  • @VortexNation

    @VortexNation

    2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for tuning in!

  • @freedomfirst5420
    @freedomfirst54203 жыл бұрын

    The Serbian military is in the process of adopting the 6.5 Grendel.

  • @user-nw5gz7pc4y

    @user-nw5gz7pc4y

    3 жыл бұрын

    Is adopted as M21 modular rifle (6.5 Grendel/7.62x39). Here is link.. kzread.info/dash/bejne/fXd_1qqRfNqxl6g.html

  • @freedomfirst5420

    @freedomfirst5420

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-nw5gz7pc4y Awesome, thanks!

  • @estebahngold7713

    @estebahngold7713

    3 жыл бұрын

    They did few years back so who else bought it out ? 2 dollars round of wolf ammo .it was 30 cents round back in 2018 .

  • @danielswierczynski2001

    @danielswierczynski2001

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@estebahngold7713 What? $2.00 for a round of Wolf steel? But yes, I bought 1000+ rounds in 2018/early 2019.

  • @kyle18934

    @kyle18934

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@user-nw5gz7pc4y that's a nice looking rifle. I wouldn't mind having one of those

  • @cav0409
    @cav04092 жыл бұрын

    Love my 6.5 Grendel

  • @Getoutside308
    @Getoutside3083 жыл бұрын

    I’ve shot two Michigan whitetail and a coyote (Howa Mini), love the cartridge and love the gun!

  • @forestwolf60
    @forestwolf603 жыл бұрын

    I got into the Grendel (semiauto platform) & absolutely love it. Unfortunately, I haven't harvested any game yet but my paper trail is excellent. I have a hard time using any of my other hunting rifles now. To me, it's just that good.

  • @kaybonwell698

    @kaybonwell698

    2 жыл бұрын

    I have 2 Grendels one gas and bolt, if i take 2 guns to the range one is a 6.5gr if i onle take one its a grendel the same goes for hunting and i always use the 6.5gr. they are just TOO SWEET to shoot, they do it all.

  • @Raccoonactual
    @Raccoonactual Жыл бұрын

    I'm honestly surprised that more people aren't using the 6.5G. Light recoil, wide ammo weight selection (85-130 gr), better ballistics than almost every other SAAMI approved AR15 compatible cartridge (6mm ARC might barely nudge past it), and a truely good general purpose cartridge.

  • @maguslascivious4980
    @maguslascivious4980 Жыл бұрын

    6.5 Grendel is just amazing. It's easily my favorite all round cartridge in a mini action and AR. Pretty sure Serbia did adopt it or got on the train to adopting it which is one of the reasons IMO that wolf makes ammo for it. Ruger has been chambering it in the american for a long while now. It had feed issues when it first came out. Chamber specs were.. here and there.. you also saw .264 lbc.. which was the same thing but different. Some early bolt face differences.. That's all worked out now and IMO it'd make a great military cartridge. Even in ~12 inch barrels it's a beast.

  • @volkoff6357
    @volkoff6357 Жыл бұрын

    That Lotus Elise comparison is a HUGE compliment!

  • @PaulVerhoeven2
    @PaulVerhoeven23 жыл бұрын

    7.62x39 did not "spawn" from .220 Russian, it was the other way around.

  • @tim1105
    @tim11053 жыл бұрын

    Love the Grendel! Have several from single shots, bolt and AR15's.

  • @justinlance4174

    @justinlance4174

    3 жыл бұрын

    I baught my first ar15 in 6.5grendel. Cheap wolf ammo is really what sold me. But u need a chrome chamber and bore

  • @michaelgarvin3506
    @michaelgarvin35063 жыл бұрын

    6.8 spc discussion would be interesting after this

  • @lesjones6033
    @lesjones60333 жыл бұрын

    i built a bolt gun years ago before the howa and ruger i started with a CZ 527 action and went from there and it is a very accurate gun

  • @thestrawberrypatch5644
    @thestrawberrypatch5644 Жыл бұрын

    I got my son a Howa 1500 mini light in a 6.5 Grendel and got a youth stock. I topped with a Diamondback HP 3-12x42 and added a Jefferson drop floor plate. It is so sweet! Recoil is same as a 243.

  • @gsh341
    @gsh3413 жыл бұрын

    A lot of people are hung up on max velocity and are willing to shoot small bullets with a bad BC as long as it starts out over 3,000 fps. What they miss out on is the higher BC allows the velocity to continue longer. Many people scoff at the 6.5 Grendel and praise the 243 Win. What they don't realize is they are ballistically very similar and past 400 yard the 243 velocity falls below the 6.5 Grendel even though the 243 started out 500 fps faster or more. That's because the 243 Win is typically about 95 grain bullet with a G-1 BC of .335. The lower limit for the Grendel is 95 grain but can go to 130 grain with a nominal bullet weight of 123 grain with a G-1 BC of .510. That means better performance downrange.

  • @bradleyscofarm6151
    @bradleyscofarm61516 ай бұрын

    My first AR i got this year was an 18 inch 6.5 Grendel and i immediately out the gate put a vortex 1-6 strike eagle on it. Love the setup, i was looking for a hybrid defense/hunt gun. It fit that better than i expected

  • @f3nixfire
    @f3nixfire3 жыл бұрын

    I love my 6.5 Grendel AR15! I'm not at all worried about the bolt ever breaking. I have a Toolcraft Nickel Boron BCG with a lifetime warranty. Its incredibly strong. I also have 25 round steel Elander magazines that have zero feed issues. It shoots like a dream and with far better performance and accuracy at double the range (1000 plus yards) than .223/5.56 can give you.

  • @DanielReyes-hz1qk
    @DanielReyes-hz1qk11 ай бұрын

    I had been interested in the 6.5 Grendel since I first heard about it in the mid 2000s, but it wasn't until the early to mid 2010s that I finally picked up a heavy match grade barrelled 6.5 Grendel AR-15. I absolutely love it, and despite having purchased many rifles since including a couple 6.5 Creedmoors, the Grendel remains one of my favorites to shoot. I've tried 90gr Speer TNTs and 95gr V-Max's for varmint and predator hunting, and 108 Scenars, 123gr A-Max's (now 123 ELD-Ms) and 130gr Berger AR Hybrids for target, all of which I've been able to get to shoot well. If it hadn't been for the early issues and the whole 6.5 Grendel/264 LBC thing, I'm confident this cartridge would've been far more popular than it is now. I recommend it constantly and I often get questions about it or requests to shoot it when I'm at the range.

  • @inyourdefense0
    @inyourdefense03 жыл бұрын

    Have a 6.5 Grendel upper. Works great when I need to switch from 5.56.

  • @GallopingWalrus
    @GallopingWalrus3 жыл бұрын

    Saw a pretty sick 6mm AR for sale at my local gunshop. That Grendel is a cool cartridge too though.

  • @iamnotpaulavery
    @iamnotpaulavery2 жыл бұрын

    I believe the Serbian military is now using the Grendel as their standard military round. They're the ones that make the PPU (Prvi Partizan) line of ammo. In fact, they recalled a ton of 6.5 Grendel ammo here in the US a few years back that was overpressured or something to that effect. It's a great round, I love it!

  • @dukisa8791

    @dukisa8791

    8 ай бұрын

    Yes we are, plus the rifle for it is designed to easy barrel change to 7.62x39 in case of lack of ammo or just using the storage ammo we have already.

  • @iamnotpaulavery

    @iamnotpaulavery

    8 ай бұрын

    @@dukisa8791 Yes, there is much similarity between the 7.62x39 and 6.5 Grendel. Although the Grendel is a very good round for long range, up to 800 metres and beyond. There are many shooters here in America that can shoot up to 1,000 metres with the Grendel with excellent accuracy with match grade ammunition. It's not a high velocity round, but you can reach 3,000 ft per second with light, 90 grain bullets. That is pretty fast. If they offered 90 grain ammunition with a full metal jacket, it would make an excellent battle round.

  • @dukisa8791

    @dukisa8791

    8 ай бұрын

    @@iamnotpaulavery honestly, 7.62 was the only thing holding down the AK, with 6.5 grendel it outmatches AR15 in my opinion

  • @iamnotpaulavery

    @iamnotpaulavery

    8 ай бұрын

    @@dukisa8791 Yes it does. A lot of AR 15 manufacturers here have been starting to make them in 6.5 Grendel. I have 3 of them in different barrel lengths. Very accurate round. Unfortunately, the military doesn't want to use it. They considered it a few years back, but decided to stay with the very old 5.56mm that has been in use since the 1960s.

  • @pablosuarez4592
    @pablosuarez45924 ай бұрын

    OUTSTANDING ❤

  • @charliedee9276
    @charliedee92763 жыл бұрын

    Just picked up a 6.5 Grendel 20" barrel for when I move out west.

  • @22sniper70
    @22sniper702 жыл бұрын

    I built a Savage model 10 bolt gun with a Pacific tool bolt face, a 20" Criterion 1:7.5 prefit barrel, aftermarket aics bottom metal and modified magazine, in a hogue stock. It loves 120gr Speer gold dots, ar comp, and cci 450 primers in starline brass. It's a pretty sweet setup!!

  • @davidgreenapple9397
    @davidgreenapple93972 жыл бұрын

    I love my 6.5 Grendel CZ bolt rifle. CZ discontinued, so I recommend: Howa 1500 or Ruger American (22" barrel). For both, get them with no stock and buy a Bell & Carlson stock. Bed the recoil lug and get a Timney trigger and you'll have a 1/2 MOA rifle with little recoil (for your daughter put a muzzle brake for even less recoil). Comfortably hunt out to 300 yards.

  • @kennethbisbee6631
    @kennethbisbee6631 Жыл бұрын

    I've had my Grendel for about five years now. I was going to hunt pigs in Texas so I had this Grendel built for that. I never got to Texas but I have killed several antelope, deer and prairie dogs with this rifle. I ordered a Grendel upper from Alexander Arms for this build - this is a heavy duty upper (not made by Alexander Arms any more) and it added significant weight to my ar - I married this upper to a 20" match barrel which also came with a 6.5 Grendel bolt - the bolt carrier was also included with the upper - the lower is a Spike's Tactical with the old WWII P-40 shark's teeth on the front of the magazine well - the butt stock is a Luther - the rifle is topped off with an Aadmount cantilever scope mount and a 4x12 Vortex Viper scope - cosmetics include a spiral fluted barrel and Kryptek camo coating - this rifle shoots sub moa and is extremely acurate - Alexander and Hornady brainstormed a bullet specifically for the Grendel, a 123 gr SST and it shoots just fine in my Grendel - This is my go to gun for small and light to medium game. It is a real accurate killer.

  • @poormansshootingandreloadi8531
    @poormansshootingandreloadi85312 жыл бұрын

    I love my 6.5 grendel upper from uintah precision. It transforms your ar lower in to a bolt gun.

  • @George-ue3er
    @George-ue3er3 жыл бұрын

    Howa, CZ, and RUGER! Ruger has the American Predator and the american ranch both running 6.5 Grendel. Ruger also made a 6.5 General Mini 14 when the cartridge first really became commercial.

  • @dkn2128
    @dkn21283 жыл бұрын

    My Grendel is a sanders armory upper. Easily shoots sub moa at 1000 yds. Very fun to shoot too. More power than you would think. My kids can shoot it all day.

  • @bryanmcdermott4204
    @bryanmcdermott42043 жыл бұрын

    Howa HB 20" is a total tack driver with Hornady 123 SST and 120 Federal Fusion. Great for deer. Also love running 100 grain Wolf in an AR. And yep, I don't shoot anything else.

  • @wilrohan2985
    @wilrohan29855 ай бұрын

    I'm a Grendel fan! I shoot a Howa Mini-action in the caliber. I try to keep shots under 400 yards (using 123 to 130-grain bullets) because I have heard that at the lower velocities (1200 fps and below) bullets are still supersonic, but they don't expand in tissue. Still, the 6.5 Grendel gives my old 243 a run for its money, even with Federal Premium (100-grain Nosler Partition bullet) ammunition. I have one fun load using a Nosler 140-grain RDF and 27.8 grains of PowerPoint Varmint for 2386 fps. I have also had good luck with my varmint load: 90-grain Varmageddon 30.7 grains Benchmark for 2895 fps. My best load uses the Lapua Scenar 123-grain bullet with 28.9 grains of Varmint for 2552 fps. I'm now working with CFE223 as a possible substitute for Alliant Power Pro Varmint since they seem to have stopped making it.

  • @chadobright2168
    @chadobright21683 жыл бұрын

    Just built an AR15 Grendel this fall. Love the lighter package than my AR10 308!

  • @fr8cture

    @fr8cture

    3 жыл бұрын

    it's alot nicer to walk around in the woods with looking for deer.

  • @darcy1234100
    @darcy12341003 жыл бұрын

    Ruger American Ranch. Sweet setup for 6.5 Grendel

  • @iBleedStarsAndBars
    @iBleedStarsAndBars3 жыл бұрын

    Grendel, best AR platform round period

  • @genghisghost

    @genghisghost

    3 жыл бұрын

    sorry, you made a typo. you meant to say AK

  • @justinlance4174

    @justinlance4174

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@genghisghost no typo. Best ak and ar platform. Best of both.

  • @genghisghost

    @genghisghost

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@justinlance4174 its a terrible ar cartridge. bolt life is 20,000 rounds on these. just as awkward as 7.62x39 ar’s. this is at home in the AK as it shares the same boltface as 7.62x39

  • @justinlance4174

    @justinlance4174

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@genghisghost not true. Maybe cheap ar15s bolts only last about 20000 rds. Plus my failzero 6.5grendel bolt has a lifetime warranty. And aks are less accurate 2 to 3 in guns at best. My ar15 shoots 1/4 in witch is impossible in a ak. In 6.5grendel u can only get 10 and 20rd mags in the vepr ak rifles and they cost 40dollars a piece. Compared to 15bucks for acs mags for the ar15. Aks are Less ergonomic. aks are heavier. And less modular. Plus if i shhot out my barrel i can replace it myself something u cant do on ak platforms. And ur barrel will shoot out before ur bolt ever thinks about failing

  • @justinlance4174

    @justinlance4174

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@genghisghost and the cmmg anvil AR hybrid uses a modified 308 bolt head on a 223 carrier packed into essentially a ar15 reciever. if bolt failure is what u are worried about. Even though it doesnt really happen anyway especially with a 9310bolt or s7tool steel ar15 bolt head. As opposed to 158carpenter steel. And it still cost less than a modified vepr. And its bolt head is bullet proof mayby even more durable than any ak bolt

  • @tandtoutdoors5154
    @tandtoutdoors51543 жыл бұрын

    I have taken bull elk at 300 yards with 129 gr nosler no issues. One shot drt. I also have smaller family who can shoot it very accurately due to less recoil. I enjoy it in the ar platform much more than a bolt rifle.

  • @cwbeeson6044
    @cwbeeson60443 жыл бұрын

    I live in Alaska and kill boo with it every year at ranges of 400 to 450 does great. I did also took a moose with it at 150 yards.

  • @shermdog6969
    @shermdog69695 ай бұрын

    Love my grendel. The 107 grain is fantastic for antelope.

  • @wade6877
    @wade68773 жыл бұрын

    300PRC would be interesting to get more info on since already so many mag 30 cal. How does it compare?

  • @yorickfpv723
    @yorickfpv7237 ай бұрын

    Go Cougs!! Just noticed the cap on the shelf!😂

  • @shanescatsandcannabisfarm2965
    @shanescatsandcannabisfarm29652 жыл бұрын

    My favorite is the 120 grain 6.5 Grendel... Its actually 6.7×39mm meaning the projectile is 6.7mm diameter.. It puts out more J's than the AR and AK with any size bullet..

  • @pjbarney9580
    @pjbarney95802 ай бұрын

    i love mine... heavish 18" upper. 3-12 scope... it likes the 120s in grainweight and literally cloverleafed my 1st group with my 2 stage triggered lower

  • @keener713
    @keener7132 жыл бұрын

    Elise comparison is spot on even when you start asking why they don’t just Grendel everything. Both are oddly designed, finiky, quirky, and more difficult to live with.

  • @LRRPFco52
    @LRRPFco523 жыл бұрын

    Biggest practical thing 6.5 Grendel offers you in the AR-15 and micro action bolt guns is a replacement for .308, with half the recoil. For me, it made all my large frame AR-10 investment obsolete, except for cartridges other than .308 Win. I can do what would normally be done with .223 Rem or 7.62x39, then turn around and do what I would normally do with .308 or even the bigger 6.5s, with maybe 200yds of performance shaved off .260 or 6.5CM. For long guns, I can go with a little bit more barrel length and close that gap between a 6.5CM. I personally like the short barrel Grendel package for a do-all. It works great for Close Quarters, will kill any game within 200-400yds, and has supersonic reach to 1000yds with higher BC bullets.

  • @jerrymartin5100
    @jerrymartin51003 жыл бұрын

    Love my Grendel, 24 inch ,ar

  • @kennethdittig2986
    @kennethdittig29863 жыл бұрын

    love mine, have a howa, and an ar platform. i believe that the round was designed by alexander to compete against the 6.8 spc for a replacement to the 5.56 for the military, in ar platform sized rifles. i cant believe it lost out to the 6.8, it has a better bullet selection that the 6.8, currently running mine suppressed for everything from chucks to whitetails, excellent round for a kid starting out

  • @HoofingIT09
    @HoofingIT096 ай бұрын

    Would love to see a 6-arc VS 6.5 Grendel discussion.

  • @donspears6557

    @donspears6557

    5 ай бұрын

    Had 2 Grendel's, 24" AR and 20"Bolt. I'm very interested in the 6 ARC.

  • @zachklopfleisch8501
    @zachklopfleisch85013 жыл бұрын

    6PPC would be a good one. I feel like it's kind of the grandfather of our precision cartridges today: It brought us the 6/6.5mm bullet (at least to the US), the short, "fat", efficient cartridge designs, and the moderate velocities. Bench resters were using the 6PPC to print 0.001" groups with a 6mm bullet at 3000-3300fps for decades while everybody else seemed to either be pushing 30+caliber 160+ grain bullets 3000+fps for long range or trying for 4000fps with 22s.

  • @crunch9876

    @crunch9876

    3 жыл бұрын

    Lol trying for 4000 FPS with a .22? What cartridge is this? Super hornet?

  • @lmj2783
    @lmj27833 жыл бұрын

    Please do a video on the 6ppc it's a fantastic small deer Cartridge I have a Sako 75 and I love it

  • @mtower235
    @mtower2353 жыл бұрын

    I’m loving mine

  • @Hiller84
    @Hiller843 жыл бұрын

    The 6.5 Grendel does great in a short barrel AR pistol to a long barreled bolt rifle. I crunched the numbers and went with Grendel. Plus, you can buy steel case for plinking.

  • @240SSONLY

    @240SSONLY

    2 жыл бұрын

    no more steel thanks to the sanction on Russian ammo =(

  • @JLacek
    @JLacek3 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to hear them talk about my favorite cartridge and very accurate 35 whelen

  • @Ralfenstein89
    @Ralfenstein893 жыл бұрын

    We really need one of These episodes on the 6.5x55

  • @chrisrinker8813
    @chrisrinker88133 жыл бұрын

    A dedicated video to 257 weatherby would be cool

  • @fabulousoffroaddesigns5080
    @fabulousoffroaddesigns50803 жыл бұрын

    Really nice cartridge. It's the only 6.5 that I find interesting, because it's the only mainstream .264 or 6-7mm cartridge that is more efficient then the original 250 Savage. Less powerful but more efficient.

  • @TheMajictech
    @TheMajictech3 жыл бұрын

    A ruger mini 30 with a Grendel conversion is an absolute beast. Although I do despise forming those cases from the 7.62x39. Doable. But a real pita.

  • @hansblitz7770

    @hansblitz7770

    3 жыл бұрын

    That kind of retrofitting and screwing around is not worth any percieved advantage.