To Zeke's comment, this headline might be the first time most people have ever heard of Twitch

@Awytoo

Жыл бұрын

If you’ve never heard about it before.

The only reason i played the Ff16 demo was because of the “head start” oppertunity.

Square's been on a roll with decent demos for awhile now. FFXVI, Octopath, OCtopath 2, Dragon Quest XI, Live a Live...I'm sure I'm forgetting some.

@pinolskun8764

Жыл бұрын

Maybe it has nothing to do with it but since Yoshi P got popular from FF 14 they are on a roll. Well, aside from the ceo nft thing

Loved the show!

Get Cohh 100 million now! I love his plan.

@scottm7297

Жыл бұрын

1000% percent agree

@Mantarhochen

Жыл бұрын

Dark Age Of Camelot 2, lets goooo!

From what i have heard and read, kick pays signing bonus + hourly wage on almost every contract. So i heard speculations and estimations of X getting 10-20 mil signing bonus plus 10k dollars per hour streamed. With his streaming hours on twitch in the last 2 years, that would end you up at pretty much exactly 70 mil. Then he gets 30 extra if he runs some event deliverables.

Great show.

Congrats Zeke!

loved it!

Good show!

Zeke rocking that retro Volvy shirt from back in the day. Man, those games were cornerstones of my childhood.

"the earlier you reach 100k the more you get penalized" is such a disingeniious view, it assumes that the alternative would be permanent 70/30, which wouldnt be the case regardless. its like hitting a new tax bracket and complaining. imagine actually complaining about earning 100k too fast...

Ahh yes, Hideo Cohh-Jima, everyone's fav.

100 millions is so much money I can't imagine it. People killed each others in Yakuza Kiwami for that amount of money

1:07:46 Meaning "protect advertisers". Any other words there are just to obfuscate that.

Thought question: is it better to grab one streamer at 100 million, or 100 streamers at 1million a piece?

@Juhz0r

Жыл бұрын

Depends on the size of those 100 streamers. Streamers moving to other platforms tend to lose a good chunk of their viewer base, so smaller or medium size streamers might lose their viewership entirety. Maybe if you focused on moving certain orbits of streamers in particular, more viewers would carry over. This is all an uneducated gut feeling.

I agree with Cohh regarding streaming platforms. The more competition the better.

@brilobox2

Жыл бұрын

Kick has a long way to go. Probably need to sign some more big names before Twitch bothers to reverse more of their bad changes. Its still at least 10x smaller than Twitch.

@esaedvik

Жыл бұрын

@@brilobox2 10x? are you serious? In what metric, toxicity? Kick isn't even an option for most. Who the hell wants to be associated with random bros who peddle gambling or crypto to kids?

Watching this after the Super Mario RPG remake announced lol

Cohh's everquest dream is much like my own

@EvanCops

Жыл бұрын

I remember Everquest. I grew up playing it

For ff tactics jp they did ff tactics war of the lions on psp then brought it to mobile and I think supposedly people said it was accidently leaked that it would be coming to pc due to it appearing on nvida GeForce now gaming app but that's been over a year now or so.

A shame that they didn't raise the fact that if you are a more recent streamer that you never even got the option to have a 50/50 split so only the big & old players get the benefit of being 70/30 while if you are a newer streamer whos on a default contract you already are at 50/50 and nothing will change (and for 2.5% it will actually be a boost in money since they might go from 50/50 to 70/30).

@keton62678

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this is exactly what I was thinking lol. Shouldn't the point be that Twitch takes too much in general. Not that "Twitch is suddenly taking 20% after you make 100K". I'm sure many people are super happy to get an additional 20% up to 100K (seeing as the majority of streamers never reach 100K). It sounds to me like streamers have made some small progress in getting more of their sub money, they should be celebrating that some are getting a bit more, and then should be talking about how the next step is to get more people that additional 20%, and of course after that is pushing for even better. As it is Cohh sounds super tone deaf to me, complaining about suddenly getting 20% taken, when most don't even get the temporary 20% to begin with.

Cohh. If you know good people who haven’t got the “female” memo, then you need to deliver it to them. If they’re your friends, that is.

@sheepcidus

Жыл бұрын

I mean he also didn't want to comment on nickmercs because being gay is political...

@LooseCo

Жыл бұрын

I rolled my eyes so hard when Cohh said that

@freeshot16

Жыл бұрын

what world are you people living in??? When was the last time a guy talked about his female friends as his "woman friends" or any conversation thats simply stating gender? Last I checked woman wasn't a gender. Pop your bubble please

@TheXxemarosaxx

Жыл бұрын

Yea I don’t see why male or female is wrong?

V ---- is this for real... ... ever hear the phrase, the house always wins.

He's got the money now to be the posterchild for gambling

Okay, I have to say, it is incredibly counterproductive and misrepresenting to put in the timestamps "Reddit boycott fails" and then only barely explain what actually happened. Cohh summarized it well, but only a part of the situation. Sure, we all know none of the 3 people hosting are like journalists or do any real research beyond the cliff notes on the headlines, but sometimes dismissing the details can hurt important causes. Yes, some subreddits have returned because of the threats. Because spaz was insisting that subreddits belong to the users and nit mods. So a whole lot of subs polled their users on what to do next and overwhelmingly the answers the to continue protesting in another way. Some subs are now just pictures of John Oliver. Some subs are flagged NSFW to deny ad revenue. Some locked new submission. So to call it a fail is incorrect. Since the uprising is still ongoing.

@gzzzt

Жыл бұрын

Admittedly i dont know the numbers of the reddit issue, but decentralized boycotts are generally ineffective. That goes for most product boycotts and various individualized "vote with your wallet" stuff. Sooner people are aware of this the sooner they can organize.

I would love Kick to pull all the scum off Twitch, let's make game streaming great again 😂

@Chris3s

Жыл бұрын

agree, we don't need gambling on such sites too

@asmo2183

Жыл бұрын

So having Amouranth is great streaming? Nice logic

@Chris3s

Жыл бұрын

@@asmo2183 I think you dont get the OP, they are stating that pulling scum off twitch will improve game streaming (since kick is not really a great platform anyway)

@asmo2183

Жыл бұрын

@@Chris3s My bad. I thought OP meant the complete opposite. Agree with OP on this!

@The_MarTyNi

Жыл бұрын

The problem is the biggest scum is twitch/amazon itself... so that's gonna be hard

26:00 cohh you are too old for this lol even zeke is ahead of you. Having said that, trainwrecks using 'female' as a category is like the best description of Kick ever 2:45:00 exciting to see zeke working for Xbox!

I will never understand why Amazon doesn't intergrade Twitch like Amazon Videos is on the website. They have livestreams on the Amazon platform but not Twitch which could easily pass QVC(a infomercial channel 24/7 ads) Streamer naturally talks about a product the consumer can easily click a link(insert method) to the Amazon product page. Hell Amazon could have come out with a non intrusive screen product tracking ai bot/system. Like how YT/Twitch has systems scan for illegal activities.

@voidshaman3580

Жыл бұрын

Probably because that would require time and effort that Amazon just deems not worth the effort, for some reason.

XqC is a man baby. Watch his stream w/ Andrew Tate and watch as your respect for XqC evaporates...

@LooseCo

Жыл бұрын

xQc is an asshole so I don't know why anyone would have any respect for him in the first place

@nelliott500

Жыл бұрын

Can't evaporate an empty vessel...

xqc is in quebec and the "STUPID" law make the gambling hard for him

@brilobox2

Жыл бұрын

Laws restricting gambling are good, its wholly degenerate and is a net negative to society benefitting nobody except the ones who run a business that literally cannot fail mathematically.

$100 Million to xQc?! That's a lot of adderall!!! I hope he can handle that kind of wealth. People dream about that kind of money, but in reality that huge sum of money will most likely just cause problems in his personal life.

@Leo-ds6lz

Жыл бұрын

xQc was already a multi millionaire before this deal xD

@dgmaffi

Жыл бұрын

@@Leo-ds6lz I know that. There is a huge difference between $10-15 million and $100 million. That is a $90 million increase. Shouldn't be taken lightly, that's all. I hope he does the right thing!

i wish cohhcarnage would leave out the background image of the cat or move it out of the camera range ,its annoying

I love this show, but man those alerts from Cohh's phone are distracting

This is just stupid business. They could have paid 100 streamers 1 million each.

To be fair of you followed the train wrecks stuff you would know they did him dirty all the twitch staff simping for the female streamers but I’m not saying all of what train says I agree with but during that time they did have a hella double standard

The Partner Plus program talk just feels like rich people complaining about progressive marginal income tax. "The more money I make the more money I lose!" Well, sure, but you're still making more money? Now someone who made 150k last year on subs alone might only make 132.5k from subs the next year....cry me a river.

@nelliott500

Жыл бұрын

$100k/year is not rich and why would anyone be happy to take a pay cut?

hearing joe biden say "make the rich pay their fair share" and then hearing Cohh talk about taking from high view streamers and giving to low view streamers is top "he doesn't get it does he"

@tom1659

Жыл бұрын

Yep, Cohh doesn't get it for sure. His pay raise comparison doesn't makes sense cause Twitch seemingly can't afford a 70/30 for everyone if they want to become profitable. Twitch doesn't need to compete with Kick's contracts if they want to be the sustainable and profitable service like Twitch's CEO has said, and that strategy makes a lot of sense for Amazon when you consider that Amazon makes a lot of money on Kick and other companies that use AWS.

@ansaron459

Жыл бұрын

@@tom1659 This is what corporations do. Make the profitable company take the profit and squeeze your workers for more on the 2nd company (twitch). Google Return of the Jedi never made profit for an example.

Describing Rumble an "alt right space" is pretty ridiculous. Kick and Rumble are better described as places where content creators can escape the biased censorship of Twitch and KZread.

@ComedyHeroes11

Жыл бұрын

Anything that doesn’t censor is now described as alt right so not shocking at all.

@Guru316

Жыл бұрын

Yeah its a label thrown at literally anything that isn't part of the main stream platforms. It's such a low effort take. Guarantee none of them have even looked at Rumble to find out.

@Juhz0r

Жыл бұрын

Kick should get rid of Adin Ross and Rumble should get rid of Nick Fuentes if they want to make being described as alt-right spaces seem more ridiculous. Don't host nazis or people who are friendly with nazis. That's not too much to ask.

@ericscasny9312

Жыл бұрын

@@Juhz0r Your opinions of Adin and Nick are yours. You can choose to talk crap about them. You can choose to not watch them. It's called "freedom". You're simply advocating for censorship and it's pathetic.

@TheXxemarosaxx

Жыл бұрын

True that

Still hoping you'll have fightincowboy on one day even tho he does yt now

Trainwreck or someone else from Kick would be a cool guest to get a lot of good information

I don't care if streamers making millions make less per year. It sucks that money goes to Amazon but no one needs millions per year, or even hundreds of thousands a year.

Who the hell cares if you call women female?! 😂😂😂 Those words mean the exact same.

I was interested in FF16 when they first said they were working on it. but after learning more and more about it like the combat and the no companions I was like yeah, this sounds like shit. I do love the medieval setting though but that's all I loved about it. so after the demo came out I was like ok cool I'll at least try it to see if "maybe" I'll like it. so I tried it and was like yeah, I hated it like I thought I would so IF I do pick it up it will be when it's on sale for like $30 or less.

I love when streamers talk about cuts and money when all of them are millionaires and make more money than any normal person will ever see in their lives. Peak first world problems.

@agfreelance

Жыл бұрын

Lol none of these guys are millionaires

@Huckleberry42

Жыл бұрын

@@agfreelance zeke maybe not but if you think cohh and jp aren't you are delusional. Unless they have ridiculous spending habits which i doubt.

@silenceyouidiot

Жыл бұрын

@@agfreelance I mean, at JP and Cohhs age they should be millionaires unless they're seriously doing something wrong. They're married and had careers before Twitch streaming.

@Juhz0r

Жыл бұрын

It's still important for smaller streamers. You can criticize something while personally being well off.

@gzzzt

Жыл бұрын

@@Huckleberry42 Owning horses and spending thousands on digital items are both pretty ridiculous. That said, discrediting people just for having money, without any context, is big dumb.