It's really awesome to finally have a podcast host who is capable of asking the right questions and of of having access to the key people.

@CyberKyle

Ай бұрын

I agree! I would check out the Hard Fork podcast episode with Demis too, I was surprised at the level of discussion for the non-technical hosts, they asked great questions that teased a lot of exciting stuff from Demis.

@MrMikkyn

Ай бұрын

I agree. This is one of the better podcasts between a host and an AI expert

@attilakun7850

Ай бұрын

So Demis, do you believe in aliens 😂

@sup3a

Ай бұрын

Agreed 100%. Often feels like a better Lex (and I say this as a long-time fan of Lex)

@JakeWitmer

Ай бұрын

Better than most.

Hope you guys enjoy this interview with Demis. If you do, please share it! Helps a lot :). Thanks for watching 🙏

@zandrrlife

Ай бұрын

So refreshing to have a true technical interviewer. You ask the REAL questions. Glad I found your channel.

@theWACKIIRAQI

Ай бұрын

All your interviews are a breeze. Very informative and easy to follow through all topics touched. Thank you.

@ChuckNorris-lf6vo

Ай бұрын

Wow this guest is very talkative like bla bla bla bla bla what a machine what a machinegun of words.

@Rareme530

Ай бұрын

Subscribed. Spot on.

@ivoryas1696

Ай бұрын

@DwarkeshPatel Almost wish it was _longer, but nice job anyway!

This guy is just about the best interviewer of tech folks. Excellent questions. Some thought has been applied rather than sticking to what everyone else is asking.

@MrMikkyn

Ай бұрын

I agree. I find the other podcasts tend to ask computer generated sounding questions.

@hugopennmir

Ай бұрын

mmm Lex ?

@moviesfan5513

Ай бұрын

​@@MrMikkynDwarkesh is computer science graduate so infinitely more technically competent than an average journalist.

@user-tl5ok1ff6k

Ай бұрын

@@hugopennmir Lex is kind of a naive child, I don't enjoy his interviewing style its incredibly biased and he hardly pushes back at all letting gremlins like Tucker Carlson run roughshod over him with their bevy of lies. He's too idealistic and his questions and subsequent conversaion are too unfocused on the tech.

@egor.okhterov

Ай бұрын

Sure, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah

This is a great conversation! It would've been even better if Dwarkesh's speech were clearer. I think Dwarkesh optimizes for speed which at times makes it inaudible. In any case, I'm looking forward to more guests like Demis.

@HuxleyCrimson

Ай бұрын

Totally agree. I even suspected that his interventions were sped up

@microbe_rz31

19 күн бұрын

Do you have Dunkin' Donuts coffee in Britain? 210 mg of caffeine vs Starbucks 80 mg.

Its so great you do these interviews and ask intelligent questions that require non trivial answers

@xsuploader

Ай бұрын

yh. Most interviewers ask the same dumb generic questions. But not dwarkesh

I had no idea what they were talking about. But the interviewer clearly is the fastest speaking human being on the planet.

@godspeed133

Ай бұрын

clearly a next level SOTA technical interviewing specialised LLM with a photorealistic animated avatar generated on the fly.

@TedToal_TedToal

Ай бұрын

If you speed up the interviewer, it is completely unintelligible.

genuinely the best interviewer when it comes to tech/AI, excited to watch this, thank you!

You ask the best questions, Dwarkesh! Speaking from the perspective of someone who has worked in the field of AI for several years, I'm impressed by how well read you are on technical concepts.

Huge. Looking forward to watching this after classes. Thanks.

So excited for this. You're really an amazing interviewer. Ty ❤

I listened to this at .95 speed. The change might seem insignificant, but it was actually incredibly helpful in slowing down the high density stream of information just enough to be able to catch every word. I highly reccomend anyone else struggling to keep up with the question-answer pace to do the same.

@erang4437

Ай бұрын

That applies to the interviewer, Demis speaks just at the right speed.

@dovekie3437

Ай бұрын

.95 speed is probably closer to what it was recorded at. The normal version clearly has been sped up.

@NoXic88

Ай бұрын

It's helpful turning the closed captions (subtitles) on too :)

@HuxleyCrimson

Ай бұрын

The intervewer interventions sound to be sped up honestly

@matthewburson2908

Ай бұрын

@@erang4437 Yeah. Kinda makes this whole thing garbage lol.

Great episode Dwarkesh and some insightful questions throughout. Well done. Shared to Maven 🙏👍

Excellent podcast. You ask such good questions, and it is clear that you put a lot of work and deep thought into preparing for these interviews.

I set playback speed to 1.25 at the start of the vid (I often do for these kinds of podcast-type interviews), god damn I was not prepared for how fast Dwarkesh talks 😆

I love Dwarkesh’s intelligent and pointed questions, it’s refreshing.

Your podcast has become my new favourite, overtaking the 80k podcast. Really love the quality of your questions :)

Dwarkesh meets Demis ! Fantastic interview ! Every sentence is gold…❤

Yo Papa Patel interviewing the heavy hitters. Much appreciated

20 minutes in "Grounding (in reality)", I had to pause: these are astute questions from Dwakesh and great replies from Demis.

Your channel is gold! I love your questions, and crazy how you can get all these big guys on here

Thanks for the Interview. Very much appreciate it!

Given the pace of change I'd love if you'd include the date of recording in the description.

Amazing background research by Dwarkesh, citing old research papers from Demis is great.

You are my favorite interviewer. Thank you for the interesting content!

This podcast is so incredibly underrated. Fantastic conversation with one of the most important people in the field. Your research and knowledge really shines here and serves as the foundation for some really insightful deepdives. Thank you so much for this!

Great interview! Is this accelerated beyond 1.0x? Such as 1.1x or 1.2x playback as the default?

@bobby288m

Ай бұрын

my money is on amphetamines

@HuxleyCrimson

Ай бұрын

@@bobby288mlol that's what I secretly thought haha 😅😂

@Jonathan2x6

Ай бұрын

Mumbo jumbo to deliberately obfuscate. The interviewer just rambles on instead of keeping the question short. Also got a fake accent that falls flat at times.

This is becoming one of my favorite podcasts.

You did a really good job and I learned a lot without losing interest. Thank you.

Finally a sharp interviewer who knows what he is talking about. Great job!

Great stuff Dwarkesh ❤

You ask really good questions! Very good work 👌

Hey love your Interview sometimes hard to understand your questions, your a fast speaker. But your very good at what you do, thank you for the content.

Truly inspiring. Fantastic talk.

Sounds like I’m watching a regular podcast at 1.5 speed

What a fantastic interview and interviewer! Kudos

Awesome feedback. A piece of advice for the interviewer. Please don't rush when you pose a question. Slow down and speak clearly. IN several cases the posed questions were disregarded due to the speed.

Only one hour… 😢

@the_badass_bond___

Ай бұрын

It should've been 3 hours mann

@conformist

Ай бұрын

better than zero!

@ansumansamal8473

Ай бұрын

But it's a quality 1hr

@the_badass_bond___

Ай бұрын

@@ansumansamal8473 so ja bhai. Rat ho gya

@Aziz0938

Ай бұрын

​@@the_badass_bond___tu chup

Great interview👍

great questions for sure. Very good interview.

Great episode, always amazing people you are able to interview! Other than the content itself, I feel like you're 99% there in terms of production quality. The audio is sounding better than it has in the past which is a welcome change, but I can't help but notice the video having some auto exposure artifacts. It is somewhat distracting to see the exposure change when someone is moving in a certain way. Also the exposure in general seems a little overexposed. Just trying to give some technical feedback! I always look forward to your interviews! I can't wait to see what these conversations will be about in 2 or 3 years when we understand more.

10 minutes in and this is excellent!

Demis: These system are going to be enormously powerful and transformative to society! also Demis Demis: Because these systems are potentially dangerous if falling into the wrong hands only selected people and institutions should be able to wield them.

@41-Haiku

Ай бұрын

Also Demis: "We don't know how to control these systems once they become smarter than us, but just trust us, we'll figure it out later!"

Very good interview, well done 🎉

Really cool videos, thanks for doing this!

It's the most sophisticated asking I have see on the topic last 7 month.

Incredibly useful, Chelsea Finn is clearly one of the most inspiring robotics researcher nowadays

Dwarkesh is purely an AI simulation that Demis was testing. Notice how Demis had him running at wildly different playback speeds throughout the interview.

Great interview

love demis. he's very open.

I love this more technical style interviews from someone who knows the domain. This is missing from the internet. I will love you to do a similar with Sam Altman 🔥

the youtube url ends with AI

@VesperanceRising

Ай бұрын

Awesome

Great work! By the way, it would be great if you would always post the interview date.

Cool, 1.5x speed without the 1.5x playback speed

@umberto488

Ай бұрын

Lots of brain power

Perfect listening for a walk in the forest. ✌️

AGI in the next 5 minutes!

Thanks!

This podcast is the only one I listen to at 1x speed O.O great job with the quick pacing, Dwarkesh!

@93836

Ай бұрын

After rewinding a bunch of times, I eventually just set it to 0.5x speed for me. Haha.

@nescirian

Ай бұрын

I listened to it at 1.5x because that's what I'm used to, but I did have to stop and check that it hadn't somehow ended up at 2x. Definitely seemed faster than usual.

@ashh3051

Ай бұрын

I'm listening at 0.75x. The pace is too intense for me.

I love interviews like this that get a bit more technical.

Needs more views

Let's go!

Have you considered running the mic through a sound board and equipping you and your guests with monitor headphones? It might be a good way to prevent guests from wandering away from the mics if they can hear themselves.

@dr_cheez811

Ай бұрын

I say sound board because my experience with digital monitors has been closer to a speech jammer.

It will be a real challenge for an IAG to "feel" what I felt witnessing the eclipse today. Because It can't be explained with words.

We all now know that "weights" are where the big security danger lies.

"Sure, sure, sure, yeah, yeah, yeah" - it translates something like this "please, shut up. I'm not listening to you anymore. The things you are talking about now are not interesting to me. I want to talk myself now instead of you"

Lets go!!!

Exciting

Get Ilya Sutskever on the podcast!

Brilliant humble man who is fronting maybe the most important endeavour of humankind right now. Deep respect for Dr. Demis Hassabis. Great interviewer.

This is gold

Let's get this right!

Stanley Milgram's "Obedience to Authority: An Experimental View" needs to be discussed at the center of every discussion about why both AGI and existing humans are so unwise. We know the answers...we're just too cowardly to face them and choose wisely.

Wish it was longer

When published, it "was" the best model. Not today.

I think the best way to study the activation space is by perturbation analysis which can be automated.

謝謝！

Banger

56:40 Speaking of "Unintended Consequences," that's a book Demis should read. The John Ross one with "the rape of liberty" art on the cover (there are two books called "Unintended Consequences" by two different guys named John Ross).

It's weird that a company can have a division with the best minds and then another of quasi technical ethics ladies and functionaries are allowed to make the final product into farce.

Empirical truth. Nascent AGI suits men of thunder. Walking light on the battlefield.

very hella swag podcast

Just curious , in a differential piece game like chess is there any role for lower order /complexity auxillary modelling purely on a board demographic , ie positional state .

Many models in the brain are inherited (innate) - such as being able to catch a ball, under the effect of gravity and air resistance. Therefore, human brain models are developed, then improved across generational boundaries. The amount of data used to train our internal models is therefore captured across 10's of thousand of years. With AI, we are massively accelerating that process.

Does anyone know what the make and model of those chairs are? They look slick.

what a rehabilitating episode

Can we get the podcast in video form on Spotify please 🙏

Demis called LLMs unreasonably effective. Shouldn't we figure out the reason why it's as effective as it is. And furthermore, how does higher quality or extra data improve its IQ in certain domains? If something this unprecedented is "unreasonably effective", we should figure out the method to the madness instead of blindly creating more madness.

Are you using elastic weight consolidation and curricular training?

FANTASTIC interview but have you ever noticed that you, Dwarkesh, speak like you are on 1.5x speed? 😭😭😭 Kind of obsessed and I don’t know how you talk like that.

@malimal4972

Ай бұрын

it's sped up

@ChipWhitehouse

Ай бұрын

@@malimal4972 I don’t believe that… why would he speed up his part and not Demis’s? Demis talks at his normal speed?

@malimal4972

Ай бұрын

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@ChipWhitehouse

Ай бұрын

@@malimal4972 sounds like a lotta work… 🤔

Dwarkesh loves pushing doom scenarios over positive possibilities and opportunities. ngmi

What makes it best model in the world exactly?

Please stop boostimg speed on these videos, it's already hard to keep up as it is 😁

Interesting.

This is fundamentally the last technology humans will ever invent. Once AGI is achieved and released, it will make all of our future inventions...

Decade? You can say that, we're basically there.

Interesting how youtube comments are having a meta discussion about the conversation instead of the conversation itself.

@skierpage

Ай бұрын

Folks, if you like the video click the thumbs up button. There's NO NEED to write about how much you liked it!

Do Nate Lambert on practical/open-source alignment research! 😄

@420_gunna

Ай бұрын

I think he'd have something something to say about Demis's claims at 43:00 re: their work being either "open source" _or_ "open science" 😄

Very interesting interview but the acceleration effect was annoying.

While I appreciate the interview, I can't help but feel disappointed you didn’t address the elephant in the room - the growing concerns about potential biases, especially the alleged anti-white bias, in Google's new AI image generator.

Here we go. That's why I don't open KZread first thing in the morning.

@LarsRyeJeppesen

11 күн бұрын

I am 1 + hours late for work now

by what metric are you calling Gemini best model? by google advertisement statements?

@skierpage

Ай бұрын

By the incredible Google video where Gemini was watching the presenter and cracking jokes while he drew a rubber ducky and put a map on the table. Amazing stuff, shame it was faked.

@ShawnFumo

Ай бұрын

In fairness, I think 1.5 Pro can be considered better in terms of dealing with long context. I got access today and it is pretty impressive so far. Like with a half hour video tour of a museum, I asked which exhibit had an animal digging near water and who gifted it to the museum. And it got it even with the length and the fact the name placard, animals, and gift placard weren’t all on screen at the same time.

@ShawnFumo

Ай бұрын

Google has been shooting themselves in the foot a lot. Instead of doing that stupid fake marketing video, they should have waited for 1.5, when they could actually show something very impressive. 1.0 Ultra is basically just GPT-4 with pluses and minuses (overall more minuses). 1.5 is something different altogether. We haven’t seen a model until this one that can actually reason well over a very large context. Hopefully they’ll be able to roll it out to more people without a huge delay. Am hoping it is a good sign I got past the waitlist, since I’m not a famous influencer or anything like that.

@oraz.

Ай бұрын

​@@ShawnFumoThere are still many answers that will be manipulated or not allowed. I guess it's up to people to decide if they are fine with that.