10 Times Star Trek Went Woke
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Star Trek was never WOKE in the past! Give me ONE example! OK, another ONE! OK, another...
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Two examples come to mind. In one episode, we meet Kirk's immediate superior, the man in command of the starbase to which the Enterprise is attached, and he was played by a black man. In another, two white male junior officers were gossiping and Uhura ordered them to get back to work, which they immediately did. In both instances, black people in positions of authority was seen as completely normal even though it would have been almost unthinkable in the 1960s.
Dr McCoy clearly regarded Dr Mbenga as his equal. It also has one of the best scenes with Mbenga slapping Spock to wake him up and Scottie trying to intervene.
@DrankenDune
Ай бұрын
I mean… he is attacking the first officer😂
My favorite part of Plato's Stepchildren was when Kirk and Mccoy offered to give Alexander the injection to give him the powers the other Platonians had, and he refused because if powers like that made you as cruel as them, he wanted no part of it.
@andrewdreasler428
Ай бұрын
True, and an example that wisdom can be contained in anyone, regardless of stature. Alexander COULD have taken the injection, just to 'defend' himself from the other Platonians, but a hand (or mind) raised in defense is a mere twitch away from one raised in revenge.
@CynthiaWarren
Ай бұрын
Michael Dunn was a fantastic actor. He played some very strong roles, highly unusual for Little People back then. I highly recommend the movie "Ship of Fools." It's based on a novel written in 1933. The ship it takes place on is a German cruise ship. He also played a very fun recurring villain on the tv show "Wild Wild West." Miguelito Loveless clearly enjoyed toying with Jim West, and you could see that delight in Michael Dunn's eyes.
@andrewdreasler428
Ай бұрын
@@CynthiaWarren I agree 100%. He did not let the circumstances of his birth limit him. Barring any "full-body" costume roles, he never was a "gimmick," he gave his lines and poses as if he was no different from the taller actors.
@paulleckner8235
Ай бұрын
@@CynthiaWarren True that! He was also on Gunsmoke.
Number 3 highlights one of the reasons I am so emotional invested in Star Trek. As an Asian myself (and Filipino), I was always so moved to joyous tears seeing Takei representing us.
@paulleckner8235
Ай бұрын
He could also play an evil side with a dueling scar on the side of his face in the alternate universe.
Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations. Star Trek is great because inclusion is baked into it's very DNA.
@gups4963
Ай бұрын
Unless it opposes anything held up in so called infinite combinations
@JaceRidley
Ай бұрын
@@gups4963 What are you even trying to say here?
@jacebales2951
Ай бұрын
Apparently grammar isn't baked into its DNA? 'It's'? 🤣 A possessive apostrophe?
@ryanventer9221
Ай бұрын
@JaceRidley he's talking about if you're a conservative Trek fan that you are basically shunned from the modern fandom. I can only speak anecdotally, but the majority of the social media pages I've interacted with in regards to Trek treat conservative fans like sh*t.
@JaceRidley
Ай бұрын
@@ryanventer9221 gee oh golly wow, I just can't imagine why that is. /sarcasm
Going from TOS to TNG, replacing "Where no man has gone before" with "Where no-one has gone before", which they even highlighted with the sign-off in The Undiscovered Country when Kirk corrects himself with "Where no man ... where no-one, has gone before", not just a passing of the torch, but a recognition that times had changed, prejudice had changed for the better, as was the movie's subject, and the very movie itself, a recognition of the fall of the iron curtain and having to accept, on both sides, the joining of two different worlds in which people lived...
@tempvsfrangit3854
Ай бұрын
Also for ST6 the dinner scene displaying the Universal Translator has limits. Chekov: "We do believe all planets have a sovereign claim to inalienable human rights." Azetbur: "'Inalien'-If only you could hear yourselves. Human rights-the very name is racist. The Federation is no more than a homosapiens-only club." "Chekov, His Foot In Mouth" would be visited again with "Darmok" (TNG5.2) showing direct-translations are also fallible when one doesn't understand the context of the words.
I was at the protests for Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri. One of the most eye-opening experiences I’ve ever had. The number of people of all colors and faiths who came together just in hopes of a better future for themselves was incredible.
And this is only TOS
@oracle478
Ай бұрын
Yeah they really should have said so in the title 😮💨
ST:TOS was one of the first series that attempted to be mindful of diversity, equality, and inclusion (but no Kingons!).
@paulleckner8235
Ай бұрын
That came later with Michael Dorn.
It was Nichelle Nichols that inspired Dr. Mae Jemison to be an astronaut
@crazedvole
Ай бұрын
Was that because she saw Uhura on television or was it from the time Nichelle Nichols was basically working for NASA and traveled around encouraging minorities to join NASA?
@simmyjester
11 күн бұрын
@@crazedvole A win either way.
Harlan Ellison having harsh words?! So unlike him! 😏
@rickjohnston2667
Ай бұрын
Lol! 😂
@willmfrank
Ай бұрын
Cleanup in the Comment aisle! Bring the Sarcasm Mop!
@vincentpuccio3689
Ай бұрын
I first became aware of Harlan Ellison when he used to do his editorials on the sci-fi channels sci-fi buzz show. My God what a Miserable person he was you can actually see his blood pressure rising the He spoke
@user-xt2zf4in4b
Ай бұрын
I don't know how such a misanthrope can write the stories he does.
@kaecatlady
Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
This is a prime example of the positive use of rage bait.
@CasualSpud
Ай бұрын
Only rages the bigots.. so congratulations twit
@TrekCannon
Ай бұрын
Finally!!!! Thanks so much Trek culture. Back a sub
@oonue
Ай бұрын
Until youtube sees the title of the video and proceeds to fill everyone's suggestions with only rage bait.
@the_kombinator
Ай бұрын
What's rage bait? Being pissed off enough to watch a vid?
When they changed the intro from "Where no man..." to "Where no-one..."
@DenCanyon
Ай бұрын
Man as in Mankind.
@davidjunk6117
Ай бұрын
@@DenCanyon you view it that way and many do as well but not everyone. Historically women were considered as chattel so 'man-kind' was, in the thinking of the time, the only reasonable thing to say. But we've moved past those ugly days and recognize equality. And that's why we have "Where no-one" instead.
@RictusHolloweye
Ай бұрын
@@davidjunk6117 - A pretty compelling counterargument can be made. After all, the word "man" did originally mean "human" (there were other words in English to describe male and female. I'm not an etymologist, it's just a bit of trivia I once picked up). When the words were "Where no man has gone before" it literally did mean "Where no human has gone before". When the words were changed to "Where no-one has gone before"... that seems a little dismissive of all those people they encounter in those places they go. Like, all those aliens on all those worlds are "no-one".
@adrianvanleeuwen
Ай бұрын
@@davidjunk6117 There are still some countries in the world where women are still suppressed, if you go to the middle east for example.
@jackdavinci
Ай бұрын
@@RictusHolloweye it's clearly referring to Starfleet/Federation members. If you keep "man" that dismisses all of the other Federation races who aren't human.
Of course Spock looks like a Romulan. His Daddy is the commander of the other ship.
@ManuelCastilloVerano
Ай бұрын
Lol
@Lordoftheapes79
Ай бұрын
True fan.
@MonCappy
Ай бұрын
Indeed. The Romulan captain of that ship was one of Sarek's shadow clones.
@joe9739
Ай бұрын
He oddly doesn't look like the Klingon Commander that foolishly fired on V'ger.....
@joe9739
Ай бұрын
@@MonCappyHe's probably chilling in Vorta Vohr, living it up🖖
It never occurred to me that Chekov was wearing a wig, but now I cant unsee it... Thanks...
@mightyzekken
Ай бұрын
Only for a few episodes. Eventually that mop on his head was his own hair.
That Lincoln scene with Uhura is one of my favorites to show the optimism of Star Trek. Everyone is just confused as to why it would be offensive like "That? We're over that. We've overcome racial prejudice hundreds of years ago"
@billkerns9258
Ай бұрын
And yet Spock consistently deals with bigotry against him ("you pointy-eared Vulcan," and although Kirk said there's no room for bigotry on the bridge, there was bigotry expressed nonetheless). That's part of the beauty of TOS too. It gave hope for progress but also did show that progress would always continue to take work.
@bryson2662
Ай бұрын
@@billkerns9258 yeah, but at least it seems interhuman racism is a thing of the past
@billkerns9258
Ай бұрын
@@bryson2662 True but honestly that's an area where I felt Trek needed to improve. And remember, the aliens were also allegories and stand-ins for diverse peoples in the show. I love the sense of hope in Trek. However, the Federation Exceptionalism borders on jingoism at times, especially when we see the Federation as a stand in for the US and American Exceptionalism. The Federation can in many ways be compared to the famous vision of the "city on a shining hill" in US traditions.
@sureshmukhi2316
Ай бұрын
@@billkerns9258when McCoy says something like that to Spock, it's more like playful teasing. McCoy actually respects Spock. He has shown this respect many times like in The Menagerie, Amok Time, The Tholian Web and other episodes.
@billkerns9258
Ай бұрын
@@sureshmukhi2316 I agree that McCoy held respect for Spock, a respect that grew over time. His conduct changed also with the movies. It's possible for someone to have respect for a member of a minority group, and consider that person a friend, yet also engage in conduct that is harmful. To use examples that are common, many people who are White may say pejorative things or use pejorative phrases about people who are Black but then when called on it, talk of respect for someone who is Black and a friend. It's the old "I have Black friends" thing. And often the pejorative phrases are dismissed by the person as just in jest. Having respect for a Black friend doesn't make it OK for such a white person in this case to use the pejorative term. Not even jokingly. Of course this phenomenon is hardly limited to people who are White or Black. Just using examples. Spock was never shown to be OK with the perjoratives by the way. And that makes a huge difference. At most he tolerated them. At times he openly said he did not like them. McCoy kept using the term despite Spock's wishes being clear. At least - during the original three seasons. In the movies things changed.
"Stumbling almost as often as it succeeds" pretty much describes the progress of Civil Rights in the United States of America.
@JaceRidley
Ай бұрын
You ain't kiddin
@retro_reflections
Ай бұрын
Not to mention the entire human race.
@robertbeste
Ай бұрын
Growth is not linear.
Thank you for spending the time to go into the actual history of the term, and how it has been cooped! I was afraid from the title, but what we got was a critical look at the politics of the 60s. Bravo.
Thank you for the video. Please keep up the excellent work. I have been a Trekker since the show's inception. Saw Roddenberry once when I was in high school and once in college. And yes Star Trek was very socially conscious. As said by its creator. Limitations set by the network and the times kept it from really shining in that respect.
Maybe an honorable mention for Dr. Daystrom? Highly intelligent and Kirk said he was the youngest ever to win the Nobel prize for his development of duotronics. …but let’s not mention the M-5.
@nitehawk86
Ай бұрын
Well, that would track with Alfred Nobel.
My sister did her Master's Degree studies in moral education at Harvard University. Investigating the question why young people have less racial prejudice than their elders. The answer they discovered was seeing multiple races co-exist on Sesame Street and Star Trek!
For a mod Chekhov model, think Ilya k on Man from UNCLE.
My mom was one of the first black women to be a telephone operator with Pacific Bell - the 60s incarnation of AT&T. One has to have some historical perspective on what an achievement this was. Mom has perfect diction like Ms. Nichols did.
There's got to be a list where Star Trek tackled other issues which compares them between the good and the bad. DS9 episode Rejoined explores gender identity and is generally good. However the TNG episode called The Host is generally bad. Including Geordi LaForge as a disabled character in a position of authority is good. DS9 episode Melora where Bashir romances a wheelchair user is bad. As a wheelchair user myself, that episode still makes me cringe, especially after all the good work they did in TNG.
@xBINARYGODx
Ай бұрын
Nothing will ever cringe/laugh-at-better than Ryker "coming out" to Troi because he wants to bang the sexless alien who wants to be a woman.
@jackdavinci
Ай бұрын
What makes you cringe?
@joeldfisher
Ай бұрын
@@jackdavinci the way that Bashir fawns over Melora just because she's a wheelchair user existing in the world and how she's depicted as an angry and bitter woman until Bashir melts her heart
@shadowone01x99
Ай бұрын
@@xBINARYGODx But we still enjoyed the heck out of that episode. I heard a rumor that the sexless alien was supposed to be played by a male actor and to have a gay kiss with Ryker but the producers refused at the last minute changing to a female actress. Lol.
@shadowone01x99
Ай бұрын
I actually quite liked the "Bashir romancing the wheelchair user" episode. Just my opinion.
My reaction when I saw you all finally tackled this head on was simply to quote Captain Picard's reaction when his chair finally got upgraded with a seat belt.
Star Trek at its core is a morality play.
I was hoping you'd include TNG, DS9, VOY & ENT...perhaps a follow up ;)
"Momma! There's a black lady on television and she ain't no maid!" -Whoopi Goldberg, age 9.
Great video but brace yourself the internet dweebs are coming!
I strongly appreciate the meta aspect of this video. Well done.
I'm a new subscriber because of this video. I bet you gained some subscribers and lost some others. I applaud this video and hope you will dig deeper into these topics in the future here and in the Who channel. Many of your videos on this channel feel like they are very "safe" and this was different.
Interesting that some of the episodes, while intended to have important messages were among the weakest, but then Balance of Terror was one of the best Of course the inclusion of Sulu, Chekov and Uhura was a good thing, with some excellent episodes including one or more of them
Love your content. Just a quick note on this one Marcus Garvey was in no way an African American. He was Jamaican, he is one of the national heroes of Jamaica. yes he was black of African descent, but definitely not African American.
@rickjohnston2667
Ай бұрын
But he lived in America. So he was actually Jamaican-American.
Again, after reading thru some of the comments made in reference to this video, I was a young man during the TOS years and living in that era, despite my age and in Canada. I saw actors, and people Only. It was not until Years later when we all had to be trained , taught, or bullied into realizing that other people of a different color and different hair style or customs, that we had to find a way to accept them not just to accept them because . I had absolutely no issue with accepting a Vulcan, why would I have any issue with any other Earth culture. This to all my true Trekkers. Love your video's.
So basically all of Deep Space Nine
@gups4963
Ай бұрын
DS9 tried a little harder to portray political differences more honestly. Kirksman trek makes a progressive fever dream for anything right of Mao
Hey Gang.. LOVED this one. As has been said by a number of comments ( yup.. I read them all.. 193 right now ) I'm joyous that you tackled something controversial for a change. I beg you to keep going with this. TNG, DS9, VOY, Enterprise, Etc. I was 8 years old when the kiss aired. I've never forgotten seeing BOTH my parents standing up and applauding the TV. I didn't understand the reaction until I was a few years older and discovered the blatant racism on display in the U.S. ( I'm a Canadian that grew up in a very diverse neighborhood ). Trek completely reinforced the morality that my parents taught me. Anyhoo, keep up the good work. ^5
Being aware is one thing, being aggressive and demonizing of anyone who doesn't think exactly like you is another.
@JaceRidley
Ай бұрын
When you say you "don't think" like us... what you really mean is you want the freedom to be a bully and be bigoted and we should just "tolerate" it. No.
@shadowgb
Ай бұрын
@@JaceRidley no, I mean I think it's disgusting to cut off healthy body parts as a cure for something. Or that if you don't want to date a man you are a bigot and a homophobe. That it's not okay to just be a normal heterosexual person.
@JaceRidley
29 күн бұрын
@@shadowgb Like I said. You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about and you're just a bigot. You don't know or understand science. Nothing is "cut off"... You literally are just repeating propaganda you WANT to believe because you don't like trans people. Your obsession with other people's genitalia meeting YOUR expectations, even though you'll never see their genitals? Is fucking weird. You're really weird for that. Get a real hobby.
#10, Yangs and Kongs: greatest political speech a non-citizen has ever made about the US Constitution :P
I have respect for A Private Little War, because it had the guts to come out pro-Vietnam-involvement in 1969. You don't have to agree with it, but I respect the ballsy move to make people think.
Shawn , you have a way to make humans proud of ourselves; thank you.
I'm surprised you didn't cite the entire cast of extras.
Sure I remember Garret Wang talking about the whole Asian confusion thing even as late as Voyager and Enterprise.
Someone commented about so-called "wokeness"; "I'd much rather be awake than asleep!"
@k.t.1641
Ай бұрын
yeah thats not what it means anymore. It means yelling out what you think is right without listening to anyone. Just your point of view and nothing else at all. Llike most things, ideas get corrupted
I have always hated "the kiss" being put up as this big leap forward. William Shatner couldn't look more like he didn't want to be there if he tried. From the weird open mouth to the odd look up it screams i don't get paid enough for this.
@JohnPatrickSchutz
Ай бұрын
You assume incorrectly - the SCRIPT called for both actors to actively RESIST being forced into ANYTHING against the will of their characters. No, the Captain of a quasi-military ship should not be passionately be kissing one of their officers regardless of the race, species or gender of said officer - it would be, if voluntary, inappropriate, unprofessional and destructive to the chain of command. Neither Shatner nor Nichols had any problem kissing the other (read both of their autobiographies, not to mention David Gerrold's "The World of Star Trek" among other eyewitness sources) both actors were annoyed that NBC's censors were forcing them to film a version of the scene where they succeeded in resisting the Platonians and DID NOT kiss which ticked both of them off. So much so that they purposely botched EVERY TAKE of the non-kiss version of the scene until the end of the shooting day so that the real kiss would have to be used, Shatner and Nichols were ACTING, @dbzsoa, which is what they were paid to do.
Kirk: "These words and the words that follow were not just written for the Yangs, but for the Kohms as well " Yang Chieftain: "The Kohms?" Kirk: "They must apply to EVERYBODY or they mean nothing."
I would love to know the statistics of people who comment and how many of them are actually subs (for longer than this message, or the video, have existed, of course).
I wanna a video like that for TNG, DS9, VOY and Enterprise. Make it so! *
@TrekCulture
Ай бұрын
They’re coming 🖖
There is a difference between progressiveness and "wokeness" of the past and whatever they are baking into the newer scripts. No one ever had issues with the older shows and issues, and still don't. What has changed? There is more going on with New Trek and other franchises than "wokeness".
@JaceRidley
Ай бұрын
"No one ever had issues with the older shows!" Showing your ignorance there. TNG was often called too progressive. People complained at length about DS9 literally turned a pre-internet industry on it's head by showing 2 women kissing. People wanted Uhura off TV for being black and ordering around white people. Same for Chekhov because he was Russian. One episode of TNG was banned in England for decades because it DARED to mention the idea of Irish Independence occurring. You have missed the very point of Star Trek in your choices to complain because it doesn't focus solely on you as a demographic anymore.
Excellent and much needed. Thank you!
what was the 1st interacial kiss in trar trek ?
Fair Play. Really sensible, informative and entertaining....just like Star Trek. Good man, Swamp
Let us not forget Dr. Richard Daystrom...a computer scientist of such renown, he has earned even Spock's respect. And yes, the character was a flawed individual, but it was clear that he was not a bad person...just a good person whose talents put him in the crosshairs of bad situations that left their mark on him despite his best efforts. And even after all that, an institute was named after him. God, I LOVED that character! I so wanted to see more of him, and hear that rich, rolling baritone of his!
STOS was a show of the 1960s. It was and still is a great show.
Excellent list - now do one for classic Doctor Who.
@JaceRidley
Ай бұрын
That's a different channel, friend. lol
Very well written.
6:52 "nor was it the first inter race kiss on star track" - what was than, if not between Kirk and Uhura? (I really don't remember)
@lb.jansen
Ай бұрын
In the mirror universe episode Kirk had an Asian girlfriend who he kissed
@einat1622
Ай бұрын
@@lb.jansen Thank you !
Are you now going to do "10 times TOS was sexist/racist"?
Y'all did a great job with this one! Thank you so much. 🖖🏽💖
I would add that Let This Be Your Last Battlefield isnt as progressive as people claim it is, the oppressed race is basically told to just hold hands with the oppressor race and not strive to actually end their oppression.
Thank you for this video. ❤
I have to admit Star Trek the original series was quite progressive (for its time and still). I'm a little curious Where are you ranked the other Star Trek series?
Thank you for starting with an explanation of the terms origin.
Thank you for clarifying the meaning for me.
0:58 another example would be the recent trend of using the words "be like" especially in the titles of KZread videos
Thank you for this video. While I am a cis straight white male, I like to consider myself open minded and an ally to the LGBTQ+ community. I have been watching your videos for a while and enjoy them but I just realized I wasn't subscribed. I just subscribed.
@MrTomSpencer
Ай бұрын
Thanks Stephen. As a cis gay member of the LGBTQ+ Community, welcome aboard! 🖖😊
This is a wonderful video!!! 🖖🖖🖖
I mean these are genuine good examples of diversity and not poorly done for appearances, so none of them would apply :O
This should be interesting
You can easily make three more videos of these for each series especially next generation and discovery
Huh. Interesting to learn why/how Sulu got that name.
Do you think TOS will be forgetten within the next 10 years? Will it cary on to generations not familiar with class -- meaning wired - tv?
Love how this topic was handled; excellent video!
Thank you
Uhura was the best member of the crew
There is a whole second layer to Star Trek's take on racial equality. Because the crew is exploring the galaxy and constantly running into other sentient species, their own "racial" differences seem insignificant in comparison. While the crew can at times make a big deal about it amongst themselves, no other species is going to care which country their ancestors were from. Furthermore, there are plenty of other species which end up having locality-based divisions, and the absurdity of another species doing the same thing makes for some great plot devices. Looking at you, Kesprytt.
Thanks.
Subtle like a battle axe, but well done.
Love this
Alwasys has been.
The kiss was the first Interracial kiss on American television
I always tell the younger generations that Star Trekn had always been progressive. It worth watching. This is why I have and always will be a Trekkie
I'm pretty sure Star Trek didn't air in Soviet Russia...
@generalilbis
Ай бұрын
A point in favour of Shatner's claim that Chekov being included in TOS in response to a Pravda op-ed is baloney. But then again, maybe a Soviet official visiting a nation where TOS did air caught an episode or two and sold his bosses on the idea of being huffy over future space exploration being American-only 😅
@willmfrank
Ай бұрын
No...but the USSR did have spies all over the US and Canada and pretty much the entire Western world, so they would have seen the show and reported back to Party HQ. "Comrades, the Amerikanskis have television programme about future space ship, and there are no Soviet cosmonauts aboard..."
I hate to agree with Harlan Ellison, but he's right about Let That Be Your Last Battlefield. The message isn't merely "Racism is bad," but also, "It's bad if oppressed minorities resist their oppression too strongly." Considering this came out in the period when the civil rights movement was becoming more militant, it's a case of Roddenberry trying to both-sides the issue. If you interpret it in the context of 1969, it's saying "Bull Connor and Huey Newton are both equally bad."
@nathanbarth6393
Ай бұрын
I disagree. If you hate to fight oppression then you are just a bad as then
@SciFi2285
Ай бұрын
It is a simplistic and perhaps even smug message. But also a rather fitting one for the Federation to embrace. Because that is precisely what America itself has a long history of doing overseas. Protecting the status quo while pretending to be evenhanded. For instance the US claimed to detest apartheid in South Africa on moral grounds. All the while continuing to maintain economic, diplomatic, and military relations with that regime. Doing everything in its power to stifle and frustrate black resistance while calling for a negotiated peace.
@nathanbarth6393
Ай бұрын
@@SciFi2285 what evidence do you have
@SciFi2285
Ай бұрын
@@nathanbarth6393 It is not exactly a closely guarded secret is it? The TOS episode Assignment: Earth (1968) mentioned the existence of a US airbase in South Africa. Which isn't surprising because SA was an ally of the United States. America objected to the IOC decision to ban SA from the Olympics unless it allowed blacks to participate. There are records of every UN Security Council meeting. You can see for yourself how many times the US and its western allies Britain and France used their veto power to protect the regime. Which is a lot. Including voting against a resolution in 1963 to enforce an oil embargo on SA, watering down another resolution the same year to make an arms embargo voluntary, vetoing a resolution in 1974 to expel SA from the organization, and another in 1977 which would have imposed broad economic sanctions. The US announced that it would respect the UN arms embargo after the Soweto Uprising. But in reality continued to supply SA with arms through third party proxies who weren't in particularly good standing with the UN themselves (e.g. Taiwan, Israel, Chile). You can find exposes of these embargo evasion schemes from Haaretz, The Guardian, Washington Post, IOL, News24, among many other media outlets. I don't even think it is that controversial to admit anymore since almost all of the people involved have passed away. Even the real sanctions imposed by the US Congress at the end of 1986 came with an extra large serving of "Both Sides" fries. Because the sanctions were enacted over the veto of President Ronald Reagan his administration started to go after the ANC and Mandela as communist agitators and terrorists. He signed an executive order proscribing the ANC as a terrorist organization. A provision buried in the 1988 Defense Bill codified this ban. This law remained on the books long after apartheid itself ended. In 2008 Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice expressed "embarrassment" at having to sign special waivers to allow ANC diplomats to legally enter the country. Congress then voted to repeal the ban with the blessing of President George W. Bush.
@nathanbarth6393
Ай бұрын
@@SciFi2285where did you get this information
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It shouldn't be a issue in Star Trek. It shouldn't be a issue now.
@k.t.1641
Ай бұрын
It wasnt an issue for a long time until both sides started making one.
@adammorgan1776
Ай бұрын
@@k.t.1641both sides?! You mean whinging whining prejudiced conservatives and far right fascist types
All new Treks take it to the next level.
There are going to be people being a bit fragile.. but there seems to be,s to be a lot of that going around
Spock is about as much a different race as you can get. He looks like a white guy but every bit of back story points out he is different.
Good lord thank gawd for star trek.
And the most important time was when it portrayed cultural diversity ...
The ironic part is that you are asked to keep comments civil in what is a politically insane asylum. Currently.
@GabePuratekuta
Ай бұрын
By "currently" do you mean "ever since KZread was invented"?
I love this video! Its basically weeding out the REAL Star Trek fans from the fake Star Trek fans. 🖖🙂
Loved the video. Star Trek has striven to be inclusive from the very beginning. Lots of angry little people in the comments...
Nothing but facts
And yet there are conservative Trek fans who hate "wokeness" and think that the Federation is the ideal future for conservatives. LMAO 🤣🤣🤣 I've met and heard about these people and I still find them dumfounding. That someone far right leaning would even consider themselves a Trek fan is surprising in and of itself. But then for them to praise the Federation and what it stands for makes me facepalm as I have no idea how they can praise the idea in fiction and do everything in real life to fight against it. Great Scott, the cognitive dissonance is astronomical! 😂
@Ajax1063
Ай бұрын
@@ForzaJersey lol Not really. I've met these people, not the Trek fans per se but the other ones. And they don't even understand what they support. For example, claiming to want more fiscally responsible economic policy while not actually supporting fiscally responsible policy. I'm have a Master's in Economics by the way, class of 2023. Or they claim they're against big government, while also supporting sweeping legislation that interferes with personal liberties. Hence, it's not about believing stereotypes. It's about criticing the real cognitive dissonance I come across in work, school, and life in general. Thus, when it comes to Trek, as other ST YTubers have pointed out, Trek conservatives suffer from media illiteracy. Where they see and hear what they want and completely ignore the point that the artist/writer is attempting to convey. This is also why, moving away from Trek for a second. Many conservatives quote George Carlin, thinking that he supported their view. And they couldn't be more wrong, he HATED them. All of them. But even today, they still reference him. And this happens to multiple people, shows, movies, etc. Hence why I stand by my original point that it's massive cognitive dissonance. HOWEVER, to be sure that we're referring to the same thing when I say "Conservatives", let's define it. How do you define U.S. conservatism?
@Elduende64
Ай бұрын
It’s fiction but they simply don’t get its premise, if they don’t like the message then they don’t have to watch.
@GabePuratekuta
Ай бұрын
I find that hilarious.
@njmccormackgmail
Ай бұрын
Surely because the Federation is military?
Finally!!!! Thanks trek culture. I was so tired of the nelsonian knowledge. Back a sub. Yaaay
Excellent video. Brilliantly well considered, perfectly written, expertly put together and delivered. Shame it will probably land on a lot of deaf ears.
How about when Kirk says that the gender binary is a universal constant?
@JaceRidley
Ай бұрын
He was working with 1960s science which is woefully, literally 60 YEARS out of date...
May as well add discovery back to front. Horrible show, very happy to see it go.
@JaceRidley
Ай бұрын
No one asked you. Like, ever.
@AC-kw7xx
Ай бұрын
@@JaceRidley calm down Taylor swift. You don’t have to be asked anything to comment on a KZread video :)
@JaceRidley
Ай бұрын
@@AC-kw7xx you're so right. You can make an ass out of yourself as much as you like. Also lol at thinking calling someone Taylor Swift is an insult. But not surprising since strong female identities are very threatening to you.
I really liked this!