DS9 producers wising up and allowing Avery Brooks to shave his head. And with the start of season four fans finally got the Benjamin Sisko we deserved. By letting loose the “Hawk” Sisko cranked up the cool level to “11”.

@KaygeeAllah

Жыл бұрын

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Hi there, TrekCulture. I remember when Into Darkness was in production. And mention was made of Khan, and the fans world-wide actually groaned and wished HARD to leave the original TWOK the hell alone. The producers promised us time and again that they would not do a remake of TWOK. Simply put, we fans were outright betrayed. So don't put this "be careful what you wish for" stuff on us. We fought *against* that story arc. This is a case study in what happens when the studio gives the fans exactly what they DIDN'T ask for.

@gateauxq4604

2 жыл бұрын

ITS JUST JOHN HARRISON what’s with all this Khan business geez 😂

@fredrikcarlstedt393

2 жыл бұрын

I actually thought that remake was actually all right, not great but rather good .

@Wowflunky

2 жыл бұрын

Jar Jar abrams remakes do not exist... even as much as I think the vengeance design is interesting.. the movies still do not exist.

@JohnFourtyTwo

Жыл бұрын

That was the first time I've heard of JJ Abrams and I wasn't impressed but I knew when he got ahold of Star Wars a few years later that would be a complete mess also because at the 8.5 minute mark of The Force Awakens I knew that movie was going to be trash as well as anything after it that he had anything to do with.

@TIG5574

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. Most fans didn't want Khan at all. But then they screwed by giving us a Khan in name only. Unmitigated disaster.

The saving of season 3 gave them enough episodes to go into syndication, and that's what saved Star Trek, exposing it to new generations of viewers like me, watching after school before the parents came home and ruled the channel changer. And that makes it #1 on the list.

@zonker845

2 жыл бұрын

Had it not made syndication, most people under 70 would never have heard of it. It wasn't for the buzz over Spock, I doubt it gets a second season

@GerardKean

2 жыл бұрын

@@zonker845 I watched reruns in the early 80s as a little kid, well when I say I did, it was actually dad watching and I watched too.

@zonker845

2 жыл бұрын

@@GerardKean I remember my father and older brother watching it on its original run when I was 7 or 8

I think one of the most memorable things the creators did was the second Tribble episode in Deep Space Nine.

@johnchedsey1306

2 жыл бұрын

Easily the best "Fan service" episode of all time. What an absolute joy to watch!

@williammitchell4417

2 жыл бұрын

Trials and Tribbliations was funny. They did have a Tribble episode in the animated series.👌

@scottmantooth8785

2 жыл бұрын

@@williammitchell4417 *always wanted to see a klingon juggling tribbles at a comi-con ...i'm sure someone has done it by now...a friend of mine has friends who once attended a convention dressed as a tribble hunter with a Triton that impaled tribbles in it...*

@samdog8087

2 жыл бұрын

Better story than when Scotty showed up on TNG

@blackdog6969

2 жыл бұрын

It was amazingly well done, even today the effects, the blending of camera/film graininess to match the 60's, is just beautiful and the way they went about filming an episode on top of another, it still blows my mind how they did it on a budget for a tv series

I feel like Strange New Words itself should be on this list. We cried about Star Trek gettings darker and darker, and episodes not being self contained stories. They "fixed" both.

@JimiLaPointe

2 жыл бұрын

When aren’t trek fans crying about something? 😂

@ast5515

2 жыл бұрын

@@JimiLaPointe To be fair, in this case the crying was louder than usual and oddly enough we all seemed to agree. I would also add that the pacing of Discovery (and Picard to a lesser extent) for example leaves no time to let characters just do their thing and be themselves. The dry dock episode in SNW was awesome because we got to see how each character deals with free time and life outside a mission.

@johnchedsey1306

2 жыл бұрын

Not all of us have an issue with the supposedly "darker" series or season long story arcs. That said, Strange New Worlds is a delight and an example of brilliant casting, great stories and fun characters (both old legacy ones and new faces)

@tnspnk3

2 жыл бұрын

Did they though? Perhaps for now. Whether or not it stays that way remains to be seen. Much like Q said "the trial never ends".

@beldin2987

2 жыл бұрын

It wasn't even so much crying i think, it was more that nearly everybody just love Anson Mount as Captain Pike and they just really wanted to have more with him and Spock and No.1

Speaking of the sudden conflict with the Klingons... I was a teenager in high school when DS9 was airing and I had actually missed the first hour+ of "Way of the Warrior". (It originally aired as a 2 hour episode.) I turned my TV to that channel anyway because they usually aired TNG (or was it Voyager?) after that. I turned it on just in time to watch Worf advising Sisko about cloaked Klingon warships nearby, lying in wait. This was the episode that made me a true DS9 fan, and I never missed another one after that. What a ride!!!

Speaking of Lincoln Enterprises... I bought an authorized copy of a TNG script directly from Majel Barrett Roddenberry at a 1992 convention in California. Recently ran across the photo I took of her with her big floppy hat on. Marvelous.

@howardsung108

2 жыл бұрын

I miss seeing Majel every year in Vegas :(

my favorite moment in the episode when Dax is seriously considering getting back with her/his ex and damn the consequences is when Sisko tells Dax that if, after weighing the pros and cons she still decides this is what she wants to do that he will "back her all the way" is when I fell in love with DS9

"And then Into Darkness came around" I literally laughed out loud 🤣

The original scripted ended for Star Trek (2009) was Spock Prime playing a message to him from Kirk. The message emphasized their friendship and the need for more exploration of the galaxy because of the wonders waiting to be found. Wish they had included that

@GabePuratekuta

2 жыл бұрын

"They only thing in space is things that need to be exploded!" -Abbrams, probably.

@SantomPh

2 жыл бұрын

They replaced it with Spock talking to his younger self, hinting that his friendship with the young Kirk would.have the same effect

I absolutely _LOVED_ Lower Decks take on Captain Riker. Especially his jazz version of "engage..." "Ensign; take us to warp 5, 6, 7, 8!" (I mean, there have been "serious," by Hollywood standards, conversations about what is going to be the hip new version of Picard's "engage." Pike has "hit it." But the jazz is just primo.)

@morticiaaddams7866

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! And always putting one leg on something!

I would have thought, that getting Strange New Worlds would be number 1. Already when people saw the Enterprise, Pike, Spock and Number One on Discovery, there was a massive tidal wave of posts online from people, that they would LOVE to finally get the lost series about when Pike commanded the Enterprise. And then some time later all of a sudden that video with Anson Mount, Ethan Peck and Rebecca Romijn showed up with the "We heard, we listened...." and now here we are finally having gotten the lost series.

@beldin2987

2 жыл бұрын

100% agree.

Stamots and Dr. Culper are also one of the first couples shown serving in Starfleet together, both officers on the same ship, sharing quarters as a married couple. We saw background crew characters in TNG being married, and we even saw Kirk preside over a wedding in TOS, but Disco has two major officers and regular main characters in both a long-running personal relationship and at the same time working major positions, with risks and responsibilities, each having to worry about the other being in the path of whatever adventure was getting thrown at them that week.

@MishraArtificer

2 жыл бұрын

Worf and Dax, on DS9, showed that side of the service, as well. It's good to see more personal relationships forming like that.

@kassistwisted

Жыл бұрын

Also O'Brien and Keiko, which had the distinction of being and inter-racial couple too. And they really played up their personal culture clash. I love that Stamets and Culper are just people. It's so refreshing.

I'd say Enterprise's In a Mirror Darkly was a huge thing I didn't know I needed. Those two episodes were sick and that intro nailed it.

@JohnnyWednesday

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed :) absolute gold! easily the best of the mirror universe stories!

@johnchedsey1306

2 жыл бұрын

While DS9 had a fun ol' time with the mirror universe, I love Enterprise's two parter so, so much! Discovery, which is a show I do love, unfortunately overdid the mirror universe and I am kinda hoping it's not explored again.

@andromidius

2 жыл бұрын

@@johnchedsey1306 I know its down to personal taste, but I loved Discovery's Mirror Universe. It was over the top, campy and violent - which was immensely entertaining for me. The fact all the cast seemed to enjoy playing their opposite persona characters added to that. The season 3 double part episode was the highlight of the season for me, seeing just how much scenery the actors could chew.

@bugmanmd1576

2 жыл бұрын

Agree... in a mirror Darkly is one of my all-time favorite episodes, including the Fantastic introduction and music. Pure gold. As a matter of fact I thought the entire Enterprise series was phenomenal, very disappointed it did not continue.

Bjo Trimble's letter writing campaign not only ensured a third season, but it ensured there were enough episodes for the show to go into syndicated reruns. Those reruns that aired for years after the show's cancellation is what started to make Star Trek popular.

@JohnFourtyTwo

Жыл бұрын

Too bad the third seasons wasn't as good as the first two seasons or we may have gotten a fourth season, a lot of those episodes are pure cringe. Fortunately, they did the job putting the series over the minimum number of episodes to get it in syndication and keep on life-support until the movies started.

@theodorehaverson5079

Жыл бұрын

@@JohnFourtyTwo I think that the studio just wanted to get the fans off of their backs on this, so they just created a "meh" season to shut us up. Fortunately, the fans had a lot more perseverance and we got the "Enterprise" name on the first space shuttle, the conventions and the subsequent new series and movies! 😁

@JohnFourtyTwo

Жыл бұрын

@@theodorehaverson5079 Agreed 💯👍

I still shake my head thinking of how Malcolm McDowell got death threats because Soran killed Kirk.

@JohnFourtyTwo

Жыл бұрын

Doesn't surprise me some unstable nut jobs did this. In one of Shatner's biographies he talks about filming those scenes and Malcom would be taunting him and joking around set about how he's going to kill Kirk, so this would be all these basement dwellers would need to trigger them.

You could have added in the likes of fan campaigns that got Garak to be a more major character instead of just a few episodes' side-man which he was originally intended to be.

@n3onstars

2 жыл бұрын

that's awesome! I didn't know that, thanks for sharing!

Good Morning Sean, YES DS9 bringing Worf over was Great I think the BEAST TRIBUIT WAS seeing Koloth, Kang and Kor THE DAHAR MASTERS so good to see the same actors revive their characters

I always wanted a half hour sitcom with Garrak and Dukat as roommates on DS9. Worf coulda been the “uptight landlord”.

Wait...wasn't Strange New Worlds a result of the positive clamour from Anson Mount's excellent portrayal of Captain Pike in season 2 of Discovery?

The thing that struck me about the visit to the Rikers: Riker is is trying so hard, but the pain in that house is still palpable. And it made me feel so sad for Deana.

The "Riker to the Rescue" bit felt like a bait and switch; I thought you were going to discuss the Lower Decks Season One finale, the TRUE Riker to the Rescue moment 😁

@stormwell

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed, a good candidate for one of the best moments from Lower Decks.

Ds9 is still my favorite show of all time.. the crew, the story. Everything was amazing in that show

You missed the biggest one, the next generation. It was because of fan demand that brought this about.

@lelandframe1029

2 жыл бұрын

I remember initial fan reaction to TNG was about as loved as a cargo hold full of Tribbles on a Klingon ship! "How DARE they make Star Trek without Kirk and Spock!!" was the main outcry! I was stubborn! I wasn't "converted" until the second season's "The Measure Of A Man"!

@hobbz7126

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, that was around the 20th Anniversary and The Voyage Home was about to be released. The announcement made the nightly news on the major networks, which was a huge thing at the time.

Not gonna lie, Sean looks pretty cool in the Red Command Outfit. It just works.

Funny enoough for being brought over, Worf was always better and way more respected in DS9

@JohnnyWednesday

2 жыл бұрын

Because DS9 had lapse discipline! Prune juice on duty? get back to work!

@enkisdaughter4795

2 жыл бұрын

I think that’s a personal view; I watched Star Trek (TOS) back in the 1960s, when the Klingons looked like Teddy Boys), a far better look than the Klingons in far later series, when they ended up looking as though they’d got melted Mars Bars on their foreheads, but again it’s personal choice.

To be honest when Picard used his authority to give Seven a field commission of captain and command of the Stargazer at the season finale of the second season. I keep wishing for a new Star Trek show starring Jeri Ryan as Seven of Nine, captain of USS Stargazer.

@samapade5645

2 жыл бұрын

Well, not wuite...I would like to see Anika command Stargazer....😎

Worf grinning like that is scary

@gateauxq4604

2 жыл бұрын

God it’s not just me 😭 I imagine that’s Michael Dorn starting to laugh but the makeup makes its scary af

I almost cried at the death of Data, he was a like an old friend

@JohnnyWednesday

2 жыл бұрын

Brent Spiner did that to us. He campaigned for years to kill Data, he thinks it's funny that it broke the heart of millions.

@jamesfry8983

2 жыл бұрын

@@JohnnyWednesday Oh yep I know about his campaigning but I always kind of thought that he would of wanted to of played Data more than he did

@JustJay1281

2 жыл бұрын

that is as close to an apology as you will get from a network/film producer. I think CBS knew fans were sour about the abrupt and somewhat unceremonious end of Data in Nemesis (which is the source of most of the hate for that movie), so they gave Data a far more fitting end, to such a beloved Character.

Riker shows up and threatens the romulans...I punched the air and said, "Cool!" 😅😅

@tnspnk3

2 жыл бұрын

Really. I thought I was the only one that Liked that ending. Riker to the rescue; seems plausible. And no one gives a better dressing-down than Riker. Jellico then, Oh now. "Nothing would please me more than you giving me and excuse to kick your treacherous Tal-shir ass". :)

Its also helps the Wilson Cruz is just awesome in the roll

@VuotoPneumaNN

2 жыл бұрын

And hot AF.

@andromidius

2 жыл бұрын

@@VuotoPneumaNN Even as a lesbian I agree. The man is just a complete snack, and I think he knows it.

I know a lot of people hate on disco but I actually really like it. Culber, Stammets and Saru are my favorite characters on that series

@jasonschlierman412

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, but it’s Star Trek in name only.

@joujimiichi1

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonschlierman412 thanks?

@konkrus9543

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonschlierman412 You mean just like TOS in comprarison with TNG or TOS in comparison with the first movies? 😂

@jonpotter9510

2 жыл бұрын

@@jasonschlierman412 What was this response even trying to say? “You can like it, but that means you don’t actually like Star Trek”?

@jasonschlierman412

2 жыл бұрын

@@jonpotter9510 Seems rather straight forward when you say it. Not complicated at all.

Culber and Stamets relationship is one of the most beautiful on screen. Me and my wife are rooting for them since the beginning. We laugh, cry and suffer with them. The script and the actors are amazing and to this day, they are the only same sex couple that we feel in love with.

I loved how Stamets and Culber never felt forced, they're just another couple trying to navigate through the world together. Stamets is my favorite character in Discovery.

@obsidianwing

2 жыл бұрын

I loved how normal they act in Series , this feels real and the most common in a modern future setup that same sex relationship a daily thing. A loving couple with daily problems. Also wonderful portrait in The orville

@DrGamelove

2 жыл бұрын

Schitt’s Creek did a good job as well. I’m straight personally, but it’s nice to see that kind of loving portrayal and I can respect the writers going that route. Even my super conservative but Trek fan mom has no issue with it, which surprised me, but both Stamets and Hugh are great characters.

@thompson9400

2 жыл бұрын

Gay

@ericthompson3982

2 жыл бұрын

100% correct

The Titan rescuing the Cerritos is Trek's apology for Picard's season 1 finale, and it's spectacular. While I didn't hate the finale, I do wish Riker had ridden in on the Titan with Captain Christine Vale and a motley fleet of random Federation ships instead of the copy-paste fleet, or barring that I wish the copies had at least turned out to be "Klingon guile" in a neat callback that also explains the sheer numbers of identical ships.

I must be about the only person who liked Nemesis from 2002. I didn't see it at the time, but having watched it a few times in the last decade, I actually like it.

@freedanzero1078

2 жыл бұрын

Nemesis has its problems, but I rather enjoy it, too. Tom Hardy is great as Shinzon, and I thought it was a nice sendoff to the TNG crew.

@Winterascent

2 жыл бұрын

@@freedanzero1078 I agree. I liked they way they closed out on Picard, with the turbo lift doors closing on him like a curtain. Fitting, since I think Encounter at Far Point opened on Picard with the turbo lift doors opening like a curtain. Curtains, since he was a Shakespearean actor.

@Raptorrat

2 жыл бұрын

I prefer "Nemesis" over "insurrection". The latter felt like a 2 part episode, but not in a good way. Though I'll admit that the buggy-chase was pretty fun.

Bjo and John are wonderful people! I thank them almost every time I see them. Thank you for including these amazing people in your show.

One thing I've kind of headcanoned regarding the "Copy-paste" fleet, is that the fleet is not actually as big as what was shown.... because a bunch of them are probably holograms. Sorta like what Voyager did in Basics Part 1. (I think that was it)

@GabePuratekuta

2 жыл бұрын

The only thing I know about that fleet is some ships were created for Star Trek Online. I'm fine with just that info.

@travisboyle285

Жыл бұрын

Could of also built tons of these ships to move Romulan refugees.

Sending Worf to DS9 was only part of the equation. in TNG, Klingons as a whole, while projected to have a rich history and heritage, never really got a lot of screen time and mentions beyond Worf's anecdotes. In DS9, the Klingon Heritage got a LOT of air time, especially during the Dominion War. Plus, seeing Worf command the Defiant was a huge step in the right direction for his character arc, especially after helping talk down a ship of Klingons in hibernation since the TOS Klingon War pre-treaty. DS9 quietly became the best Trek series because of their character development

Perfect timing, still on my lunch break. Lol

@indridcold2840

2 жыл бұрын

GET BACK TO WORK SLACKER!!!!!! JK I'm on break too 🤣 Cheers

That last second of video with the reimagination of the Seven of Nine cat suit...Bravo! That...my friend, is art.

Your #1 entry on this list I think should get some notice. How Discovery portrays Paul Stamets and Hugh Culber in the series seems natural simply because they're portrayed as just a couple, not a gay couple. They just happen to be two guys who are in a relationship, going about life as any couple would do (other than being on a starship). I think this overpowers other portrayals in Trek (even with Dax) as well as other television series because it's not a forced narrative for equality, It's a more natural representation.

@crisespinoza1979

2 жыл бұрын

I finally caved in and watched Discovery. When I saw the Stamets and Culber characters, not once did I think "they're gay!" All I saw was a couple who really loved each other. And I found myself looking these characters more and more. I soon stopped watching Discovery when I realized the main character was a rogue idiot with a chip on her shoulders and getting away with breaking so many rules. But that's another rant for another day.

@txCreativeLLC

2 жыл бұрын

@@crisespinoza1979 No that's an ongoing rant for any day ;-)

Nostalgia bait is NOT what fans want. Respecting cannon IN THE STORY not just the casting is what is wanted. Bad reboots need not apply.

@L1z43vr

Жыл бұрын

So you mean constitution class being called Starship Class, the Enterprise having no idea where its Engineering is, Connies capping at 250 crew, warp 10 being achieved and no WWIII, got it. (For context, in Gene Roddenberry’s original vision for TOS, there was no WWIII, humans escaped nuclear annihilation)

@Jealod24

Жыл бұрын

You can tell this comment was before Picard season 3… a complete redemption

With respect to merchandising, I'd love a list that would include some explanation of the Spock helmet!

@waltonsimons12

2 жыл бұрын

Why do you need an explanation? It's a helmet, just like the one Spock wore throughout most of the series.

@timtheskeptic1147

2 жыл бұрын

The Star Trek Flamethrower warrants some scrutiny...

Seven and Raffi doing a Waldorf and Statler -type thing.... File that under "NEEDS TO HAPPEN"

How about 10 times they were horrible to us? They killed Data! they detached the warp nacelles! they killed Jadzia! They didn't leave Harry Kim in the Delta Quadrant by mistake! (that one's just for me)

@coryloveless7801

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@thedeadpoolwhochuckles.6852

2 жыл бұрын

Kes, Kes, and the not Klingons.

@twocvbloke

2 жыл бұрын

Well, there was technically 'a' Harry Kim left in the delta quadrant, when Voyager was split in two through some phase-shifted thingamybob, one version of Kim was blown out into space, the other transferring from one Voyager to the other, along with baby Naomi Wildman, so, he's there, dead in space, floating alone, forever left as an Ensign... :P

@killwalker

2 жыл бұрын

I liked Harry lol. Especially last season Harry.

@evelgreytarot8401

2 жыл бұрын

@@killwalker me too. I loved his character development

Illya Kuryakin was also a Cold War boy from Russia introduced in " The Man From U.N.C.L.E." before "Star Trek" even began. I loved both shows and my father introduced me to both of them.

They could easily retcon that copy-paste starship scene with a shot explaining it was a trick. Starfleet developed holographic decoy tech (like in VOY) and the reason it was the same ship is it’s still experimental. I’ll take that pay check now Paramount.

@GSBarlev

2 жыл бұрын

I love that the finale was such an embarrassment _Star Trek: Online_ called them up and offered to do their ship design for Season 2.

Thank you sir. As always you do fine work.

Thank you Sean and trek culture!!!

This truly was enjoyable. Thank you for presenting.

Another interesting video of the things fans like to know Thanks TrekCulture & Sean

Great list! Well done!

When I was a kid in the '70s, I had a toy TOS communicator and phaser, so those were out there.

TrekCulture not giving us what we want: to see Seán 🥺

@tnspnk3

2 жыл бұрын

But we did get to see Sean. We even got to see a mutated Sean of 9 thing... horrid. :)

I'm surprised Cetacean Ops were not mentioned, even in passing.

Kind of wondering what Lower Decks will do for an episode to poke at Strange New Worlds. Thinking something along the lines of an alien race that is literally a bit nuts, in an episode called Strange New Squirrels? Nah.. probably a stupid idea, but IMHO it would just be too tempting to make the episode title play a joke with the series name.

One thing I remember is Star Trek speaking out against the abandonment and mistreatment of injured veterans in society. I wish the U.S. did a better job of that in 2022.

@Novarcharesk

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what are you talking about?

@joshwilliams8863

2 жыл бұрын

My father literally watched one of those episodes last night - TNG's "The Hunted". Very big post-Vietnam (or post Gulf War?) feels.

@MishraArtificer

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshwilliams8863 post-Vietnam. The first Persian Gulf war hadn't started yet by the time the episode was in production.

Great job as usual can’t wait till the 1 million sub party

6:00 I think many of us wanted to see the Titan. But I guess we got to see that in Lower Decks.

I really like Discovery Spock. Loved him with the "messy" hair and the beard. Him all angry. His story with Michael was my favorite relationship in the series up to that point.

Thanks, Sean! Bjo Trimble also wrote the amazing Star Trek Concordance, an early encyclopedic episode and character/term reference that was one of my prized possessions.

Worf going to ds9 made a huge difference. Before that it could have been Babylon 5 for all I cared… after Worf I never missed an episode and named my first son Elim and my first daughter Ezri.

I'm really liked the part in Into Darkness where Spock called up Old Spock. He just got him on a video call. "Hey, Spock, it's me, Spock" "Fascinating, now kill Khan. And live long and prosper" "You know I will."

Have you watched the StarTrek fan film Of Gods and Men with various actors from multiple Star Treks? I thought that was pretty damn decent.

@kaosj666

2 жыл бұрын

Plus it finally gave my dude, Alan Ruck, a chance to REALLY do something with Capt. Harriman. While the visual effects were garbage, as far as I'm concerned, of Gods and Men is canon. 😁

@brettdulaney792

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I agree,those movies were done on the cheap but they are good,need more stuff like that

Keep em coming!

Riker and Troi on Picard is an interesting one for me as I never really wanted it. I didnt want too much crossover with TNG, prefering an all new show about where Picard was now. The inclusion of Data in the first trailer was quite exciting and Seven of Nine is great because its a new pairing we havent seen on screen but by trailer 3 with Riker and Troi confirmed it felt like "I dont want this just to be a load of people coming back." But when the episode came around it was great. It showed me exactly why they did it. It properly developed those characters and was the best episode of the season. While I understand Sean's grumbles about the timing of the episode it kinda worked. Because we'd established Picard in its own right by then and it broke up the pace before moving us into a big finale. Its an example of something this fan didnt want at first turning out to be awesome

God, I wish I could find the promo for TNG that came out of CityTV out of Toronto for TNG that set exploding starships to a disco drumbeat.

Well.. the Worf's addition wasn't demand from the fans, was from the studio. With the exception of "The way of the warrior" the ratings were about the same! Of course Worf's addition was great because it gave HIM depth and proper handling of his character. Other then that... the Dominion war was in the schedule anyhow it just went one season later.

One thing I found interesting was the presence of extras in the background in TOS and TNG that wore gender bent uniforms. It largely seemed to be only in early episodes for each, but in TOS there were some women in the men's style uniforms with pants in the background and in TNG there were men in the skirt uniforms. It's not much and was never commented on but I thought it was a nice touch, particularly given the climate when those shows aired. Really, it made sense that by the 23rd and 24th centuries those things wouldn't be a big deal.

@samapade5645

2 жыл бұрын

D'ye nae ken that kilts are the only truly manly garb? Seriously, fashions can change radically over comparetivly short periodes of time...e.g., see the difference between Washington's clothing and, say, Polk's....and by that time, pants suits were well on their way to general acceptance in the business world.

I could imagine a crazy meeting of Kirk and Burnham in the Nexus. It could be beautiful.

Stammets and Colber are just such a cute couple and i agree that its awesome that they are just...there.....its no big deal for anybody :D

Worf in DS9 was a solid boost the character deserved. He still copped it bad with Jadzia's fate but I can see Dorn had much more fun with DS9 compared to TNG just by the slight changes in his acting chops. Michael Dorn has always been a big player in making my childhood great, both Worf and Mata Nui in Bionicle 4. I'm glad he got that boost and First Contact, calling for ramming speed was amazing, letting our Klingon be a Klingon

Imagine a reboot in your face…forever.

Don't know if someone already mentioned this, but Chekov was brought into TOS not because of the Cold War, but because of The Monkees. They were trying to appeal to the young people who liked The Monkees. That's why his hair is like that.

@RogueScholarMDC

2 жыл бұрын

Well since the Monkees weren't Russian I'm going to go with "a little bit of both"

@chrisbuckley7345

2 жыл бұрын

The Studio wanted a Monkees knock-off, and Roddenberry quietly penciled in "Russian". :)

Strange New Worlds is another gift. The casting works brilliantly My only criticism....... 10 episodes We need more for S2 and beyond

@kadosho02

2 жыл бұрын

It is fantastic, love every episode. Dang season one went by so fast

I happen to know the Trimbles personally and they are true fans to this day. Wonderful people.

Picard and q in star trek Picard was the sweetest.

Cheers from the Pacific West Coast of Canada.

Hah! Sean of Nine at the end 😂

jj brought us his vision and we couldn't see it due to the lens flares

That last point was what I liked most about Discovery. There was no preaching, no better than thou, no over the head with some message, just a couple in a loving relationship that happened to be two men.

Riker's ships arriving is a total bluff, just like Picard had just attempted. That's why it's one design.

Spot on!

Sean, Question: your Next Gen outfit looks great, mind if I ask where you got it? Thanks.

I wish that more people could be made aware of this.

No mention of the Star Trek cartoon. If it wasn't for the cartoon, it's "lunchbox", comic & graphic novel adaptations, the "Tribble and Predator" episode, insane amount of merch - I had the ENTIRE bedroom set ( which unfortunately got chocolate cookie, taco chip, and other snack things on it🤦‍♂️) the funding for the Live Action adaptation of the cartoon, which was 90% set ready before being cancelled, would have meant the Trek we enjoy, would not exist. A re-write of the story, swapping of characters (some did not agree with), and 60% set salvage, helped make the Motion Picture possible. I remember when Nimoy, who HATED being typecast as Spock published I am Not Spock, was due to the animated series "without notice" cancellation, as He was scared He'd get a gig. Between the series and the movie, he hosted The Coral Jungle. 1/3 of the way into it Nimoy said, "Sea Snakes Are Most Fascinating Creatures." As You would guess, EVERYONE'S JAWS DROPPED, when He said it. It aired, the media went NUTS, the Fans of Trek that Never watched that show started to, and asked for more "Spock quotes". Yes, He was miffed, as He had tried SO hard to separate himself from Spock, but He logically (🤓) decided it was due to fear, not hatred of the character. This gave Nimoy a renewed sense of pride, thanks the Fans love of not just him or even just Spock, but of the desire to hope for the "Better Future" that Eugene Wesley Roddenberry had envisioned. As You might have noticed, his middle name was Wesley. Yes, it IS Canon that Wesley Crusher's middle name is Eugene. He is Still invited. He was at the BIG WEDDING after all. As far as the Picard show.. wait and see. 🖖😎🤙

Hi ... Btw Where are klingons in discovery 's 32nd century?

9:19 I just had a crazy theory... Even though Kirk technically died, he only died from the perspective of Picard. Picard and Kirk were both caught by The Nexus and they both existed inside The Nexus. They also both used The Nexus to go to the planet that Dr Saurin was on to launch the missile.... Kirk and Picard are both still in The Nexus. Even though Kirk dies from the perspective of Picard, in actuality, Kirk was just transported back to that home he was in when Picard met him and that's where Kirk still is... Basically immortal because time doesn't actually exist in The Nexus like it exists in the actual universe, or maybe time doesn't exist at all in The Nexus... Or maybe The Nexus is actually the point between every possible timeline that can ever exist, therefore making The Nexus timeless and timeful, simultaneously.

#3: Hoshi and TPol in decontamination. #2: Empress Hoshi. #1: scene where Hoshi loses her shirt.

My uncle sent away for items and gifted me a few. I have a real science insignia from Star Trek and a pic from a negative of Uhura at her station.

I have been thinking lately that Anson Mount might have singlehandedly saved modern Star Trek. While I think some "criticisms" of Discovery are just people who live to complain and whine and moan, the first season wasn't great and they definitely needed to rethink their approach to subsequent seasons. And it is understandable the S1 of Disco was rocky, since Bryan Fuller left and behind the scenes stuff suggests there was some scrambling to salvage the show. Bringing in Anson Mount as Captain Pike and allowing him and Ethan Peck's Spock to "soft debut" Strange New Worlds was just damned brilliant. Disco S2 is an utter delight, with their escape to the far future being a brilliant way to soft reboot the series. For the record, I was just fine that Picard S1 wasn't a TNG reboot. I enjoyed it immensely. And of course, Picard S3 should be a blast!

@Rohan-is6uh

2 жыл бұрын

its a crap show simple as that

@chrisbuckley7345

2 жыл бұрын

Discovery had one fatal flaw from the beginning, which has pretty much been fixed now. They wanted to make a junior officer (or ex-officer, as they ended up with) the main character. Which sounds good on paper until you realize that in a serious drama (unlike Lower Decks' comedy) they shouldn't be making decisions of any consequence on a regular basis, and frequently should spend the entire "episode" watching over the #3 phaser bank crew (or some other duty far-removed from the action). Seasons 1 and 2 they resorted to Dues Ex Machina mechanisms to keep her in the center of the plot. And it was a mess for it.

@Stefonius

2 жыл бұрын

Discovery turned into a soap opera full of whispered dialog, crying and melodrama. I'm bitterly disappointed with how it has squandered its promise.

Banger vid guys

Riker in the season finale of Picard was the badass badassery badassed of all Trek, just along side Sisko.

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it's my understanding that the plan for Discovery was *always* to go into the future. I read an early interview with either Bryan Fuller or some other EP not long after the show was green-lit that stated it was going to span the whole Trek timeline, from pre-TOS to post-VOY. In more recent years I've heard that the plan was for each season to be self-contained to the extent that each year would follow an entirely new cast.

@johnchedsey1306

2 жыл бұрын

I wonder if both things are true? I have also read that they were thinking of making it an anthology series like American Horror Story, but CBS put an end to that concept. Maybe later on they planned out an epic time travel concept? Or maybe a far future anthology season had been planned but they decided to adapt it to Discovery. I hope there's a documentary on the return of modern Trek because so much of the early, behind the scenes stuff could use clarification.

@travisboyle285

Жыл бұрын

It was also supposed to be originally a spy show. Discovery infiltrating the Klingon Empire to determine if they were using "subspace tunnels" to sneak attack the Federation. It was in the Art of Star Trek Discovery book. Which I quite enjoyed.

Highly successful kelvin films? Hahaha. You made me laugh. Thanks.

One correction: Seven of Nine did not appear in the fourth season finale in a cliffhanger. She is introduced in the fourth season premiere.

The fans wanted a post Voyager show set in the prime universe, they didn't want any alternative timeline nonsense.

Wasn't Dr. Crusher's return in season three also the fulfillment of a fan request?

@evelgreytarot8401

2 жыл бұрын

She was more likable than the other Dr.

Into Darkness might have went too far with the fan service but from the second time i saw it, it grew on me and is now either my favorite or second favorite trek film period behind Star Trek 2009 at times..don't forget the Spore Drive and why no one ever talked about it in any of the other treks..that's why I was so worried about Discovery being set before the original series.. fortunately they went to the future which is where i think i should've started in the first place but the prequel part of the show for the most part just didn't work for me..it's not even close to the amazing job enterprise did

@beldin2987

2 жыл бұрын

Most of the time i just totally forget that it should play before ToS or simply ignore it. Yeah it doesn't make much sense in many cases and the design is just too far ahead of the old series. That beeing said, i don't hate the design and think it makes sense to make it look more modern and from today what doesn't make sense is the ToS design because why should something in the 23th century look like 1960 ? 😄

@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617

2 жыл бұрын

@@beldin2987 yeah the star wars prequels had the same problem...the Kelvin Star Trek movies are probably what Gene Roddenberry wishes he could've achieved with ToS but of course he didn't have the money and all the money in the world wouldn't make 60s tech look like 21st century tech...it's a nitpick for me cuz yes it doesn't make since that the tech is so much more advanced but at the same time i wouldn't want a trek movie with 1960s tech...i think what they should've maybe did in St2009 was send back maybe 2 or 3 romulan ships and sometime in between the time they came back and the 25 yrs later the movie mostly takes place in if maybe section 31 got ahold of one of the romulan ships and reverse engineered the tech then it'd make more sense of why the ships and tech are so much better in the Kelvin timeline then in the original timeline