10 Times MMA Judges Watched Two Completely Different Fights
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This could be a 100 part series.
@Acey5
10 ай бұрын
1000 💀
@jordandennis6794
10 ай бұрын
1 million
@rtlovcdd
10 ай бұрын
1 Billion.
@Venom-xd9st
10 ай бұрын
All of you speaking big fax… and I’m here for it
@RomaroBrandon
10 ай бұрын
1 Trillion and then some
The Felder reaction is still pretty hilarious "48-47 Felder" Felder: 🤨
@redneckrambo9626
10 ай бұрын
He gave an instant "wtf" face 😂
@DrSpaceman69
10 ай бұрын
His facial expression could be described as “saywhatnow??”
@philosopher1130
9 ай бұрын
Felder is one of the realest dudes ever
@charliejohns4755
9 ай бұрын
@@philosopher1130100%
10:57 For reference, Adalaide Byrd is the same person who scored the first Canelo-GGG fight 118-110 to Canelo, which even his camp thought was absurd. This caused what should have been a close decision for Golovkin to become a draw instead
@poise9995
10 ай бұрын
still baffling boxing judges can judge mma
@gils3066
10 ай бұрын
@@poise9995they can’t even judge boxing I don’t know why they’re put in to judge mma
@Freemasonshair
10 ай бұрын
Golovkin definitely won the first fight, not even an argument.
@Gimmithat491
10 ай бұрын
First fights score cards were so silly but it should have been a draw it was close. Considering all the damage Canelo was dropping in the championship rounds. Broken clock is right twice a day
@Freemasonshair
10 ай бұрын
@@Gimmithat491 the second fight was a draw, GGG clearly won the first fight
29 minutes of control time in a 25 minute fight is impressive af 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@holloway_goat
10 ай бұрын
how does that even happen 😂😂
@viljamtheninja
10 ай бұрын
@@holloway_goat one time he controlled him two times at the same time
@RevJenkins97
10 ай бұрын
@@holloway_goat Just built different I guess 🤣
@holloway_goat
10 ай бұрын
@@RevJenkins97 lol my guy is a god
@kingt0295
10 ай бұрын
Man hugged him on the stool between rounds.
Paddy Pimblet clearly losing 2-1 to Jared Gordon? Khabib losing to Tibau I think? Jones and Reyes? Def could make a part 2, loved the vid guys!
@hasindukumara5358
10 ай бұрын
Jones and khabib fans not going to like this,but i'm 100% agree with you on your statement.
Feel like you could have made a top ten list of Diego Sanchez fights alone. Seemed like a 3-4 year period where he blocked every punch with his face and got a split decision out of it.
@drunkenmmamaster419
10 ай бұрын
Still cant believe he got the win against Kampman when his face looked like ground beef 😂
@noodle_tax
10 ай бұрын
well to be honest its hard to score significant strikes when Diego's chin just doesnt accept them as significant 😂😂 cant compare a power punch on Max Holloway with a power punch on Cody Garbrandt
@alexthegreat38
10 ай бұрын
And then there's Angela Hill who gets robbed in basically every close fight
The big problem is the fact that judging in combat sports is like 85% subjective. It's based on a specific judge's interpretation of the action, which is impossible to standardize.
I was actually in San Antonio for the Sandhagen-Vera fight. It was my first UFC event and Cory put on a show. When the first scorecard was read I kid you not everyone around me erupted into laughter. It was just so ridiculous how anyone could see the fight for Vera
Apparently the title implications of the Sandhagen/Chito fight weren’t that significant. After getting 50-45’d, Chito got booked to fight up the rankings against Cejudo while Sandman was booked to fight way down the rankings against Umar. Now Chito beats Munhoz and is most likely getting the next title shot over Sandhagen and Merab lmao
@redbill7154
10 ай бұрын
Feel like Sandhagen/Vera was supposed to be an exciting standup war when the matchmakers were making it, but ended up being super boring because Corey started using a control based, wrestling-centered gameplan against other strikers. Not that I don't appreciate Corey's skill in multiple areas. Just think that the wins were slow and unimpressive to a large portion of viewers, and that may have set Corey back in regards to a title shot. All speculation though.
@FuntClaps101
10 ай бұрын
@@redbill7154they just want to cash in on the O’Malley/Chito rivalry. Nothing more to it.
@redbill7154
10 ай бұрын
@@FuntClaps101 I could see Corey vs Sean being super exciting for fans if Corey goes into it with a game plan that isn't centered around holding him down. He was getting booed during the Font fight, and despite having a good reason for that gameplan, it doesn't earn him fans. Fans and momentum both help a fighter push for that title shot. Chito beating O'Malley in the past/their resulting rivalry is definitely the main reason though. You're right about that.
@kingt0295
10 ай бұрын
@@redbill7154the Vera fight he didn’t wrestle much. He did the first round and the other 4 rounds were almost exclusively striking it was boring bc Chito froze and threw almost nothing bc his slow making reads style doesn’t work on a guy that has a chin and a dynamic striking style that he can’t figure out
@RickChavo
10 ай бұрын
@@redbill7154 If anyone found that fight boring, it is entirely Chito’s fault. Corey didn’t go into the fight with a control based strategy and to suggest he did is disingenuous. The only grappling heavy round from Corey was the first one which was to establish the threat of the takedown early and he did a lot of ground and pound. Most of the fight he was striking and outclassing him on the feet. Chito had no answer for Cory’s style and caused him to freeze up the whole fight
How about fights that look different on paper like fights like Chito vs Rob font where the damage just doesn't add up to the numbers.
@almazingsk8er
10 ай бұрын
they've done that video before
@almazingsk8er
10 ай бұрын
well, they discussed the Font/Chito fight and how the strike numbers don't match who won. It was called 10 times narratives were proven wrong or something
@jacksonkrall9042
10 ай бұрын
They did one similar to what you are saying here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/g3WrlKabhLmuodY.htmlsi=BNKiN4bHnjDwgzOh
I believe it was on Rogan’s podcast sandhagen said that the judge that said chito won apparently had an altercation with him one time when they were coaching opposing fighters a while back. He wasn’t accusing him of anything but he just thought it was a weird coincidence
@christianframe9788
10 ай бұрын
I haven't finished this video yet, but if this fight isn't here, I'd be very surprised
@nathancannon1470
10 ай бұрын
Actually the judge also refs and what (allegedly) happened was on a regional fight that sandhagen was coaching on, an opponent had a rear naked choke under sandhagen’s fighter’s chin but it wasn’t sinking in. Both the fighter and Sandhagen were saying he was good but because it looked bad, he stopped the fight. After that a verbal altercation obviously followed. This is what I was told (I train at Sandhagen’s gym)
Can you make “10 times where the commentary team was watching a completely different fight” because we’ve had some bad ones recently, especially with DC and Cruz’s commentary on the JDM vs Hafez fight
@Rozza2k
10 ай бұрын
I love cruz and dc as fighters and everything they did in the sport, but....neither one is enjoyable to listen to on commentary. Dc rambles on and is really biased at times, cruz always tries to go against what the other commentators say to the point of delusion. I'd like to see rogan, john anick and bisping as the main roster
@calebshep03
10 ай бұрын
@@Rozza2kbisping is the most biased out of all of them
@ashervirin9698
10 ай бұрын
@@calebshep03 and bisping rambles the most out of all of them😂 but i'd still take him over DC
@MuayThaiGuy1202
10 ай бұрын
Jan vs adesanya comes to mind
@shadooplays4283
10 ай бұрын
Conner vs Khabib Lol Conner is trying to gas Khabib out by getting mauled XD
You know, I'd like to know which judges are "getting it right" compared to general consensus and media. I don't think it would be a very exciting video to make, but it would be interesting to know who our unsung Steady Freddy's are.
Doug crosby: i dont like the scoring criteria so im going to ignore it
Before watching this the 1st fight that came to mind was Shogun vs Machida 1
@oscardbg9654
10 ай бұрын
I remember GSP vs Hendrix been a odd result too...
@the_auditor1017
10 ай бұрын
I thought shogun won every round. Quite possibly the biggest robbery of all time
@adnanabbasi8918
10 ай бұрын
there’s so many you could put on this list
@joeclarke7982
10 ай бұрын
@@the_auditor1017 at least Shogun rectified it in the rematch
I clicked on this video knowing I’m gonna be in a bad mood after watching this 😂
Haven't yet watched but I feel like this list is basically going to be Doug Crosby's highlight reel
Cub Swanson vs Hakeem Dawodu that ruined my 7 leg parlay should be on this list for sure
@kirouxfar1722
10 ай бұрын
the judging on that was insane
@SaracuraZN
10 ай бұрын
I was going to hit the whole card.....
@williamblomgren2590
10 ай бұрын
@@SaracuraZN sorry to hear that man.. sucks. i was about to make around 200 dollar i think and that call fuckt that up for me
SUPER TEAM UP VIDEO FTW! lol Loved watching this one come to life and then seeing the details you found when you made it! Go be a member guys! Changes the experience in the best way when you sometimes get to see how the sausage was made!
Haha 3 minutes in and already a Doug Crosby score this could be just a list of his alone
I always love all the wrestling references in every Tommy video.
"I am 12" 🤣 loved the Benchwarmers reference from Goldi
God bless you for that Harlem Heat reference! 🤣🤣
I think y’all could make a thousand of these videos. MMA On Point 💯
Ah yes, the biography of Sal D'Amarto
@RickChavo
10 ай бұрын
Wild that he’s the only one that got it right in the Chito v Sandhagen fight
I remember watching the Felder fight and seeing his reaction when he got a win from one of the judges. A 50/50 mis of sheer confusion and "nice!" 😂😂
Great content!
Just rewatched the chito sandhagen fight. Honestly, the last 3 rounds could have gone either way. Chito did get taken down in the 5th but neither fighter dominated
In any of these, could it just be that some judges didn’t know which fighter was which? 😂
@Rando1975
10 ай бұрын
I was kind of questioning that myself.
@madgavin7568
10 ай бұрын
If that's the case its further proof MMA judging is a complete mess. The judges don't even know who the fighter is? Completely inexcusable.
Your editor is doing God's work putting in all these Top Secret! clips.
Change scoring to 0-3 instead of mandatory 10-9/8. Rounds where nothing happens both get 0 points. Close back and forth but one did better 2-1, and for clean sweep of a round 3-0. If someone gets a takedown but does close to no damage but held the guy down 1-0
@redneckrambo9626
10 ай бұрын
You've literally just described the must 10 scoring system 🤦 10-10 rounds are possible. Judges are just twats and refuse to score them
Are we not even bringing up Jones vs Reyes?! There is no world in which Jones won any of rounds 1 2 or 3 and somehow all 3 judges scored it for Jones?
@davedanger4414
10 ай бұрын
And Jones meat riders will always contest it. "He won the fight". Like, not in any metric did he win the fight lol He got BODIED by Reyes.
@matterking1
10 ай бұрын
3 was close
@SenorVictor9
10 ай бұрын
I think you misunderstood the point of the video, because you literally said yourself that all judges scored it for Jones. However the point of the video is to talk about fights where the judges had very different scorecards or better said, watched two different fights for same one fight, like the ones in the video.
@davedanger4414
10 ай бұрын
@@SenorVictor9 The judges did have pretty different scorecards in the Jones vs Reyes fight. What were two judges watching when, in round 2, Reyes outstruck Jones by a pretty significant margin? And then one of those judges gave the very next round to Reyes when he still probably won the round, but won it less convincingly than the previous round. It was a weird ass scorecard from all the judges lol
@bobvargo4483
10 ай бұрын
@@davedanger4414what? The fuck that didn’t make anysense
I appreciate the WCW wrestling reference 😂
The thumbnail is just... Perfect
2:10 video starts
Haven't even watched yet. But anytime I see Sal DAmato, Adelaide Byrd, or Chris lee is judging I get super nervous for my bets and the fighter
I'm loving the old nes Tyson punch out text. Top notch.
I throught it was funny making Bayliun make a video about summer apparel when it’s about to be fall. 😂
The 8 Mile Screen caught me off guard. Brilliant.
5:50 popped me good. Well done fellas. 😂
@cracklecracklebaybay5612
10 ай бұрын
7:05 Y'all's references are.....ON POINT.....in this one. DAMN! 😆 I was thinking of THAT Stevie Ray the instant his name was said. 😂
I think either a fight is totally one sided or judges will piss of half of the fans
29 mins control time out of 25? That's mad
I remember when scorecards for Strickland - Hermansson fight were read and somehow one judge scored it 48-47 Hermansson people at UFC Apex went "WHAT?". It was stupid judging and and audience basically roasted this judge
Part 2 please
The Halem Heat joke warmed my tummy.
Where was the footage of this perfect roundhouse you spoke of, in the ad speach? 😅
Do what they do in judo. Score individual actions. Put a number on a strike(light, medium, heavy, knockdown, KO), put a number on a takedown(easy takedown, difficult to complete takedown), and of course the submissions. Threatening someone by holding them in a choke for a few minutes is quite some points, but not so much that they got the finish. We already have traditions and rules like in judo, since we continue on the ground after a takedown or knockdown. Let's use their pointing system. You need to earn points, not work just hard enough to get the 10-9. And this way, we lose the whole judging per round.
Mr. Toehold truly is a master wordsmith
The best way to judge a fight: The guy who loses consciousness, gives up, or stops intelligently defending himself loses.
I genuinely think the judges sometimes mix fighters up and just roll with it
In video ad then 25 seconds of the video then a KZread ad. Really awesome. They should start putting three ads in the videos beginning middle end. Or maybe a five second ad every 30 seconds.
First fight and Douglas Crosby is the judge in question. No surprise he's on this list!
my entire mma knowledge comes directly from this channel lol XD
Corey - Marlon, a big fight with title implications. Corey won and Marlon gets the next title shot. What a sport
"Summer is officially here." Dude, there's less than a month until autumn.
Daron Cruickshank in back to back vids? Let’s go!
I’ve known about CB Dollaway since 2009 and I never knew his name was Clarence Byron 😅
Paul felder's live reaction is the best for this thumbnail.
greatest fight in each ufc division
@destano2951
10 ай бұрын
figgy vs moreno 1 for flyweight , yan vs sandhagen , swanson vs choi , gaethje alvarez, lawler mcdonald, gastelum adesanya , jiri glover , arlovski vs browne
I realised long ago that my mma betting career was not going to take off when I couldn't reliably pick the winner even AFTER the fight had finished 😅
29 minutes of control time in a 25 minute fight is pretty wild
Hold my blinkie "Yeth, ah am twlf...twelve, Mr Man".
I feel like DC be watching a different fight basically every fight. Thank God he's not a judge.
After seeing Korean Zombie’s walkout yesterday, would love to see Best UFC Walkouts video.
We knew exactly which judge was going to be heavily involved in this video.
I can vouch for the True Classic tees. My son is in high school and growing tall so shirts fit him oddly. The true classics fit him perfect and it's all he wears. Expensive but worth it.
"i am twelve" is a reference to the benchwarmers movie
I’m annoyed Sean vs cannonier isn’t on the list lol
You could do a series. Strickland's face was epic just this weekend at 302...
This score is because of bets!! I would not be surprised when someone finds some judges doing underground bets.
GDP Hendricks needed to be here.
Lol I totally believe that sometimes these judges just mix up the fighters
Luke and Max bodied this edit like they were the Dudley boys
Good video idea.
I love the Harlem Heat reference
*it’s literally almost October* baylien: “Summer is officially here”
@carphucker2973
10 ай бұрын
It’s august….
Watch the MMA Gurus reaction to the Vera/Sandhagen decision, literally said "why am i worried about the judging" before scores were even read😂
Pearson vs Diego on here? Cause that one still burns my soul. Or maybe it doesn't count for the list.
make a part 2 now
Ufc is all jacked up right now
There's at least 1 fight on every card where that the judges get completely wrong.
Respect for the Harlem Heat reference yo
Most fights I think the judges should have to do a media sit down and explain how and why they score fights the way they do
4:03 lol it does the zooms backwards for the fighters and their respective nicknames
Calvin Kattar vs Josh emmet is the biggest robbery ever in mma
In the wise words of Uncle Fester, “it’s about damage.”
still think about how Dillashaw - Cruz had a scorecard 4-1 rds both ways
I’m surprised there wasn’t more Chris Lee and sal damato 😂😂😂
His real name is clarence was the best thing ever 😂😂😂
Top 10 MMA COUNTRIES!!!!
Summer is here ? Its nearly september dude
Sandhaegan vs dillashaw should be on here too, Corey keeps getting the short end of the stick!
I get that strikes and damage should matter more, but people act like ground control just doesnt matter at all now, its goofy. and it quite literally is control. i dont see how holding someone down who wants to get up is considered anything else but control.
That image of Paul Felder is so fucking funny. Please sneak it into as many places as you possibly can
They need to give out more 10-10 rounds. Nobody likes when a fight ends in a draw but it would be better than what we have now.
@destano2951
10 ай бұрын
yeah like yan vs omalley round 1 could be 10-10 or pereira vs adesanya round 1
I think the current unified rules for scoring is the best the system they've ever had. The reason so many fans whine about some of the results it leads to is that they don't understand how it works. It is a complicated and nuanced system that can be confusing, but I think the vast majority of complainers haven't even attempted to learn.
Betting the Danny Sabatello 50-45 is #1 on this list. Craziest shit I’ve ever seen.
Wanderlie Vs Hunt in Pride. Hunt looked shocked that he won!!!
Judges should explain infront of all of the fans how and why they judge the fights.
Johnny vs George should be on the list.