This is probably the most transparent, honest & informative video I have come across on Vipassana! Even a couple of friends who have attended this 10 day retreat have never shared so candidly. Thank u so much for sharing!

@singh.blaise

5 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching 😊

@mackmurdoc1029

4 ай бұрын

There's a reason why most people don't share our experiences. It's specifically to not influence anyone's journey. If they watch things like this or any positive or negitive review then when they do Vipassana they will look for things, or expect feelings, or just have any sort of expectations, when the real beauty of Vipassana is that it's so individual. The whole point of not talking or looking at eachother the whole 10 days is to note share your journey or influence a journey that isn't your own.

@singh.blaise

4 ай бұрын

@@mackmurdoc1029 Yes that is a good point. However in all honesty I don't think I would have just turned up to a 10 day retreat without watching KZread videos about it or reading reviews. For me personally I don't think the experiences of others impacted my own because they were so vast. Each to their own I guess!

@Balancedtrader007

3 ай бұрын

Which meditation you practise now?? I wud assume if one has cough then vipassana wud be disruptive ?? I can do aanapana good when doing guiding othweise when i do aana pana its very very hard to concentrate on breath unless i say go in and go out but very tough to do with natural..do you get back support in the vipassana centee..like wall as example or atleast a chair??..i do have upper middle back stiffness problem

@Balancedtrader007

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for explanation how it works in vipassana centre

TEN DAY VIPASSANA IS THE BEST THING HAPPENED IN MY LIFE. ❤❤❤🙏🙏🏻🙏

I feel very very very lucky I am doing vipassana. After eight of ten day courses at the age of 22 years to 28 I didn’t like it. I left vipassana for ten years. After ten years I tried it again and found I’ve made some major mistakes in understanding it. Now I have understood it and think it’s the best thing happened to my life. Ask me questions if you want to know anything more on my comment. To not to like vipassana at the beginning was my mistake and my ignorance. Now I understood my own mistakes and I’m a much better person than I ever thought of.

@singh.blaise

5 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing! I'd love to know - What made you return and what did you do differently?

@rohanasiriwardane

5 ай бұрын

I had missed two most important aspects of the technique. Understanding of IMPERMANENCE and maintaining EQUANIMITY towards SENSATIONS. I had been only feeling SENSATIONS and reacting to them that made me more miserable. Goenkaji 🙏 says all these things in his discourses. I had missed the essence of his evening discourses and only enjoying the amusing stories. Ten day course is just the kindergarten of VIPASSANA. Until you practice it at home daily you wouldn't get the benfits. No subject can be learnt in just ten days. This is not like any other subject. This is a life time job. If vipassana is a language you only learn that it has and alphabet. Try learning a language in ten days. You'll hate the teacher and will not touch that language again. But if you practice what you learnt in the class for ten days and practice it two hours morning and evening for one year you'll learn it for sure. But my dear friend Vipassana is a lifetime job. If anyone has problems watch the ten day discourses carefully on youtube. Have your questions in mind. You'll get answers for sure. If one doesn't want to listen to all the 11 discourses just listen to.... 5th 8th 10th and 11th day discourses. I assure you you WILL find the answers for sure. And if you do please share it here. You might save someone else too from leaving most precious gem one can come in contact in this human life. Love you all dear friends. ❤️😊 I'm enjoying lots of peace and harmony within me. May you all enjoy it too. ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤🙏

@joannekissick-jones6462

Ай бұрын

I hear the important awareness you achieved when you returned to another course was that you found in your first course that you were just starting to experience sensations as they are, yet you become aware that during that course you had still been reacting to them. It is a slow process to get to the depth of the human condition. Yes, sankharas translates to reactions. This is exactly what you are becoming aware of and then bringing equality to these very sankharas (reactions). This really is a true embodied way for liberation from those otherwise unconscious reactions. Bringing more freedom in daily life.

Thank you for your sharing! The quality of the video is great, and i'm surprised that this video hasn't even surpassed a thousand views. Hope you can continue sharing your journey on the path.

@singh.blaise

5 ай бұрын

Haha, right? It's a mystery how some videos blow up and others fly under the radar. But hey, as long as I have awesome viewers like you who appreciate my content, view count doesn't matter that much! 🙏

Great in-depth video and you speak so well. Thanks!

@singh.blaise

5 ай бұрын

Thanks a bunch for checking out the video! I'm really glad you liked it and found it helpful.

The best room in a Vipassana retreat is the one without a view.

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

🙏🏼

@newpilgrim

2 ай бұрын

🤣

@sushandesai2515

17 күн бұрын

😂

1. Regarding pre and post Vipassana discipline- Once we start vipassana meditation, it brings up our negative aspects. The more we stay equanimous, in your case- the indiscipline, it takes away that negative aspect. If you stay the course, you will soon enough become very disciplined. (Whether to keep practicing or not is your choice) 2. After my first course, I did not practice at all. After something drastic happened in my life, I made a decision to come out of it and I started taking vipassana seriously. Even after my serious attempt, I didnt practice it sitting 2 hours, but tried to find time here and there. It still benefitted me. I am out of my depression and have understood how to be happy through all the suffering. And today, after understanding and realizing its value, i practice daily- again not with a 2 hour mindset, but whenever I find the time. Vipassana is not about ending the suffering, but accepting it. I am sure you will get a different meaning the next time you do this course. It is like, we are kindergarten students, given a Graduate level book. The meaning we understand changes with our experience and understanding.

@singh.blaise

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for sharing your experience with Vipassana meditation. It's inspiring to hear how it has helped you navigate through life's challenges and fostered discipline within you. Your point about Vipassana not being about ending suffering, but accepting it, is particularly profound. It's a reminder that the goal isn't to avoid or eliminate life's difficulties, but to develop the resilience and equanimity to face them. I guess as we continue to practice and grow, our comprehension deepens, and we gain new insights from the same teachings. 😊

@nehalgandhi1952

2 ай бұрын

@@singh.blaise I was introduced to Vipassana when I was 25. I have been following the practice for last 15-16 years. This has helped me to navigate toughest of time very beautifully I would say, as previous Karma are bound to come out and cannot be avoided. Only thing that can be avoided is new bad karma. With this practice we build our future that will help to remain totally equanimous (long process though). I would say Vipassana is the best thing that has helped to me.

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

@@nehalgandhi1952 nice to hear that. How did you learn the technique?

I've been a practicing Buddhist since the late 80s. Been to many vipassana retreats, a solo 3-day in-the-desert fast (no food, books, walking around, etc.) two trips to India, one being a pilgrimage... and to a Goenka "Vipassana meditation retreat". Goenka's version of Vipassana is not THE way to do it, most versions/retreats are very different. I could spend several long paragraphs going into how my 10-day Goenka retreat was. You brought up much of it. I didn’t care for the rigidity, lack of human warmth, constant sense of striving, etc. I'm pleased you were able to have some good takeaways. Let me just say that from my view it is uniquely non-Buddhist, or like any other meditation session I've ever been to. Hopefully this didn't turn you off to Vipassana meditation. There are so many Vipassana retreat alternatives that are more genuine and useful. (There are also better ways to learn about the foundations of Buddhism.) Learning and practicing Vipassana meditation isn't really such a mountain to climb. Kuddos to you for making it the whole 10 days!

@singh.blaise

5 ай бұрын

Good to know there are alternatives - any recommendations? Thanks for sharing!

Thank you for this !

@singh.blaise

22 күн бұрын

👍🏻

That was a heck of experience for me. I’m going back hopefully in the next year or so

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

🙏🏼

Thanks for sharing. I'm going to attend the course next week in Sputh Australia 😊

@singh.blaise

9 ай бұрын

Awesome! 🙏

@PaulMacklinAmazing

5 ай бұрын

How did you go?

I wished I have seen your video before my last vipassana! Wonderful review, thanks for sharing 🙃

@singh.blaise

Ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! How did it go?

Brilliant video,Absolutely loved it,I’ve being intrigued for many years to try something like this as i feel I need it,In fact I’m sure I need it 🙏

@singh.blaise

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching! 🙏🏼 I'd recommend checking out their website for dates as they get booked very quickly far in advance.

I also have completed this is the most powerful technique

@singh.blaise

10 ай бұрын

Fantastic! 💪👍

Very interesting. Really appreciate your honest review.

@singh.blaise

3 ай бұрын

🙏🏼

Thank you for this video! I was looking for a balanced overview of the 10 days Vipassana course having listened to the FT podcast "The Retreat" - have you heard this? If so I would very much like to hear what you thought of it. The setting I learned mediation regarded the course as a kind of boot-camp like experience for very experienced practitioners.

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and for the recommendation! I'll check it out 👍🏻

Thank you so much for sharing your experience. It’s the most honest experience I’ve ever heard ❤

@singh.blaise

Ай бұрын

Thank you for watching and for your feedback! Much appreciated 🙏🏼

Wonderful video. Thank you very much for sharing your experience. This is the most thorough video I have seen on people's testimonials of their Vipassana experience. Question, was body odor an issue in the group hall? My nose is very sensitive to body odor. I wanted to point out a correction regarding Goenka and his headaches. Despite common belief, Goenka actually didn't get rid of his migraines from practicing Vipassana. He went to visit U Ba Khin to register for a course but none was available due to no offerings during the rainy season. He had to wait 3 months before the start of the next course. Upon talking to U Ba Khin and getting accepted into the course, his migraines immediately disappeared before ever starting the course.

@singh.blaise

3 ай бұрын

Thanks for watching and your correction suggestion 🙏🏼 One may encounter odors in the room yes, however if focused on the technique in theory this should not be an a major hindrance (although could make it all the more challenging for some!)

excellent and honest review of your experience. thanks for your courage to share this information. i'm expecting to go in two weeks for my first retreat. i laughed a few times and really enjoyed your video. thank you.

@singh.blaise

4 күн бұрын

🙏🏼

This is awesome

Taking psychedelics would be very risky for me. Also, the 10 day Vipassana course, both extreme ways of healing. I went through, in THIS life, extreme abuse including mind control, torture, programming and conditioning, sexual human trafficing, etc etc etc soooo the slower way, like 30 minutes twice a day, for example mighf be more acceptable for me. The food provided would not be workable for me. I can't digest beans, grains, and wheat and all those carbs and so much fruit sugar not good for me. I need some fish and eggs and vegetables otherwise I would be getting weaker. Anyway, your descriptionis valuable and I do a number of other healing modalities. I do noy go for this hard line that Goenka pushes. Everybody is different and unique. What works for one may not work for another. Thanks for your youtube.

@samuellucena4270

15 күн бұрын

The teachings of Thich Nhat Hanh seens to fit better for you... I sugest you to estudy a little about Plum Village retreats and teachings

Best thing that happened in my life. I have been practicing since 2003 and have also done 20 and 30 day long courses.

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

Fantastic! What have been the main benefits for you? 🙏🏼🧘🏽‍♂️

Nice video

@singh.blaise

17 күн бұрын

Thank you 🙏🏼

Thanks for sharing...Yes the Vipassana retreat in the Goenka tradition is not for beginners. I had been siting regularly for 10 years when I went to my first Goekna style retreat. I remember housing with a woman at my last retreat. One day I had to leave the meditation hall because I was in so much 'pain' that I needed pillows to help me lean in to my discomfort....I went back to our shared living corners and propped myself up on my bed and got back to scanning...one of the attendees was cleaning the space...I mean from top to bottom....the cabin floors, the showers.....this went on for about 2 hours....she simply could not stop her mind. Goenka wasn't playing. If you're new to meditation, please don't attend a Goenka retreat...that's like forcing yourself through a marathon without properly training, and then blaming running for negative experience. We've all got to walk before we can run🙏

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

💯 🙏🏼 Thank you for watching and your wisdom!

@newpilgrim

2 ай бұрын

@@singh.blaise Thanks so much for sharing!! This is so important!

i meditate lying down this doesn't sound like something that would work for me. I do appreciate the detailed description. I did notice that you could meditate in your room. That might work for me as long as I did not have to go to the hall. Not talking would not be problem for me.

@singh.blaise

6 ай бұрын

Hey thanks for commenting. You are required to meditate in the hall at certain times throughout the day. If you don't attend the assistants come to look for you!

I agree that vipassana may not be for everyone but it was interesting to do it. I do like quick methods but they do not always sort everything. I am here to understand stuff. Do I practices two hours a day? Nope. Do I keep scanning my body as they taught not really. I do enjoy the breathing techniques as that's what I feel meditation is about. Resetting and reaching higher levels of consciousness. I haven't done psychedelics but would be something of interest.

@singh.blaise

7 күн бұрын

Higher consciousness goals 🍄🍄🍄

Just one more question bro...when u go for 10 day vipassana...do they play any bsckground music like flute or natural stuff like waterfall etc or is it pin drop silencein the hall you meditate

@singh.blaise

3 ай бұрын

Feel free to ask - the whole retreat is silent (no music/taking etc) until the last day this includes all the spaces outside of the meditation hall. The only thing you'll hear is the wake up and dinner bells, the instructors and Goenka's voice in the videos shown each evening.

@Balancedtrader007

3 ай бұрын

@@singh.blaise...thanks...

I’m fking broken with the trauma of constantly having to react to stuff because my dad and most people I meet is like that and I being an empath would feel responsible if he gets mad. So whenever I try to ignore, he would guilt trip me to force me to not ignore. I think no one would ever be at my state tbh. From being calm to having anxiety and hate of people in general because it’s people who forced me to be like that. Fk this world tbh.

@singh.blaise

17 күн бұрын

🫂

Hi, i recently left my course in the middle. I was super pumped and used to meditate diligently before the course, however, i developed serious issues in my body during the course like insomania, mouth ulcer, constipation and boils on the body. I will not call it as my past karmas etc but i put my body in a lot of strain and i am still recovering. I would suggest anyone to take the course be less than 35 years of age beyond that its too much to ask from your body. But again it depends on individual. I would consider my self to be super fit, but please be careful and dont neglect your body at the cost of meditation

@sudhirchoudhary4823

5 ай бұрын

you shouldnt have left in middle its mentioned many times but any which way hope u recover soon.my first experience was life changing n i worked very hard for it to get the results.dont suggest people without experiencing anything at all,any aged person can do it.its ur will power and if ur not someone who pushes urself a step ahead everytime then try other meditation which will give u temporary peace

@sudhirchoudhary4823

5 ай бұрын

and you are not fit at all mentally thats y u went there and u gave up because after all the pain n sufferings is the game changer,weak minded people should visit sadhguru n pay 3 lakhs just for mere copied technique of breathing

@tulk_

4 ай бұрын

@@sudhirchoudhary4823 you ask not to suggest people without experiencing anything at all, yet you do just the same. your experience is your very own experience. you do not have unlimited knowledge to make the evaluation that any age can participate and that it's all about will power. You suggest from your experience (it's not the ultimate truth) and @gauravmehta4882 did the same from his/her perspective and experience. That's called "opinion" from very own experience and you can expect readers to be clever enough to understand that they might not have this issue. It's like declaring the effects of a medicine or treatment sucess. It's important to write, e.g. 20 out of 1000 had severe headache, 100 out of 1000 experienced gut issues, 50 out of 1000 participants terminated the procedure due to XY etc. Defending something no matter what and silencing people comes across as a cult-like mentality.

@1courtney27

16 күн бұрын

I am 73 y.o. and recently completed my first 10 day retreat. I haven't formally meditated in years and have some health problems that I was concerned about, but the whole experience was nothing but enriching, stress free, and uplifting. As a matter of fact I have a problem with back pain, and surprisingly had NO pain the whole time. I did sit in a chair to meditate.

Thank you ! So true!! It’s not a good course !

@rohanasiriwardane

5 ай бұрын

😂😂😂 You must be a person who’s getting annoyed easily.

@benjamindsouza6736

3 ай бұрын

It appears that this video has led to your conclusion that this is not a good course. Just goes to demonstrate how videos created out of misunderstanding of the teachings of the Buddha can create negativity in the minds of many & deter them from a technique that works in accordance with the Universal Law that's been proven over thousands of years by millions of people to eradicate the deep rooted defilements that cause so much suffering & bondage in our lives......& deprive them of such a great opportunity to be free!! The caption of the video itself creates such a negative impression. Although the description of the course was great, the teachings & the technique were clearly misunderstood. Only goes to prove how much damage can be caused out of ignorance - both to the creator & the listeners of videos such as these!!

Goenka is not the "founder of vipassana." There are also many vipassana traditions like Mahasi. It's a Buddhist practice in Theravada countries here in Southeast Asia. Goenka is compassionate to spread this method to Westerners for them to benefit as well. Listening to him, and other westerners, they're like spoiled children. They're only concerned about their own comfort and their own benefit. It's better that Buddhism stay in Asia and we continue our meditation practices. For westerners, they just take some tablet to relieve their mental health problems.

@singh.blaise

4 ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing - just to clarify if I referred to him as the founder it was in relation to the course we're on in the UK and other centres under the same charity/organisation he set up and my video is directly in relation to the experience in Herefordshire, England. I would be open to practising meditation again some point in the future 🙏🏼

In your video at 46 minutes and 59 seconds, I am sorry to say but it seems there might have been a misunderstanding about the essence of Vipassana. As a non-native English speaker, I'm using AI to convey my thoughts, so please let me know if I'm not getting my point across clearly. Every instance of suffering in the body leads to an increase in breath and the emergence of some form of sensation. At that precise moment, one experiences the suffering. To alleviate it, we must identify it and allow our minds to perceive it as transient, understanding that it will change over time. Vipassana, meaning 'to see things as they really are,' teaches us to train both our minds and bodies to observe sensations in an equanimous manner, regardless of whether they are pleasant or unpleasant, without judgment. This awareness is cultivated not only intellectually but also through direct experience, which sets it apart from other processes. Whenever suffering arises, there is a corresponding increase in breath and bodily sensations. With Vipassana, we learn to accept things as they are and let them go on a moment-to-moment basis. Regarding enlightenment, Buddha attained it through this process, but each individual must find their unique path to enlightenment. There is no one-size-fits-all route; it's a personal journey for each individual. During the course, nobody claims that you will achieve enlightenment through it.

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

Thanks for your detailed response and sharing a broader insight into the technique. I wasn't able to find the part you're referring to from the time code as the video ends at that point. But you are correct - the course does not promise enlightenment and there are lots of great benefits from the technique if practised correctly 🙏🏼

Where did you do hypnotherapy?

@singh.blaise

5 ай бұрын

There's lots of free videos on KZread that work great!

If you do enough meditation before the retreat, you will reach transcendental consciousnesses.

@singh.blaise

4 ай бұрын

I've heard a few people say this. Were you able to and what was it like?

@LaoZi2023

4 ай бұрын

@@singh.blaise, it was very powerful on an emotional level, as well as other phenomena. First I should say that I went to the one in Yosemite National Park. But what was noteworthy was on the seventh day I had the distinct feeling of losing my wife. I almost broke down due to my realization of the transitory reality of relationships (on a more fundamental level than one would usually feel going about one's business- and not to mention we distance ourselves from others, even in our own homes.). At this point it was simply the fragility of my connection to my wife that seemed to overwhelm me. I talked to a counselor, we had a little chat. He basically said that he was dealing with the loss of life (a verbal bitch slap!! Lol) This put things in perspective for me. The emotions were beyond average, and just seemed to crop up out of nowhere. On the eighth day emotions started to subside, and I was back able to focus on the meditations more. Ninth night I acquired the loudest ringing in my ears that I have ever heard, and it lasted through the night (this tends to happen to me when I meditate, but not this intensely). On the ninth day, I felt a ball of what felt like qi [(energy) they don't like people using these types of terms, as they can be ambiguous] ten feet tall and eight feet wide sitting on my shoulders and over my head, that felt so real I wasn't sure I could fit through the gymnasium sized double doors of the meditation hall, as it felt like a growth from my body. This "ball of qi" lasted for three or four days after the retreat, it slowly subsided. It was odd getting in the car after the retreat with this feeling, just felt like I was squeezing myself in the car. Those were the most substantial points I can remember...But these types of phenomena happen in other types of energetic practices, too. Such as Taoist yoga and meditation and Shaolin style iron shirt training - which isn't simply about physically toughening your musculature. There is a level of qi-gong involved. Good commentary though! Vipassana is a phenomenal practice to be sure. I'm not sure what else is down the road. This experience I wrote about was my first and only time to attend a retreat, I will be going back for another ten days.

Did 10 days but didn’t change much. It was ok. Individuals are carefully chosen as they have to ask many probing questions. When you finish your course, you are asked if you like to make a donation, and as you sit to make a payment, the is a small chart that details the actual costs of your stay. What people normally do is to either double, triple or more that figure. There might a few isolated individuals who are unable to pay. Sometimes these people stay on as servers to repay back in that way. Overall, the donations are usually quite good.

@singh.blaise

Ай бұрын

Yes the idea is to pay it forward so someone else in need can attend 🙏

@user-oe5jl2br6u

Ай бұрын

@@singh.blaise Absolutely. What I meant to say is people are usually very considerate. It’s important to have funds to keep the centres and their good work going. I may attend another 10 day session next year.

@singh.blaise

Ай бұрын

@@user-oe5jl2br6u 🧘

🙏💯🕉☮☯

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

🙏

It's all about the breath

@singh.blaise

3 ай бұрын

💯

I heard of people doing it several times.

@singh.blaise

3 ай бұрын

Indeed - the centres encourage repeat visits at least once a year!

WHY clickbaiting this video?

@singh.blaise

7 күн бұрын

Nope. I cover what's in the title and thumbnail...

SAUSAGES !!

@singh.blaise

Ай бұрын

?

This video is very superficial with only a very basic understanding of the method. It's OK if people want to learn what happens on the course

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

Indeed - this video is a review of the 10-day course as the title suggests not a detailed explanation of the technique.

you will not get enlightened from goenka's version of vipassana. it's very crude. real vipassana requires you seeing the kalapas and the ability to venture through past and future lives to witness firsthand dependent origination.

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

How does one get to that stage? 🙏🏼

@bearllande

2 ай бұрын

@@singh.blaise use the buddha's method. try reading knowing and seeing by pa auk sayadaw (the ebook is free online). it's very systematic, you just need to reach the 4th jhana. it's super simple but not exactly easy. but don't worry about that it's different for everyone. you can never tell if it'll be easy for you or not until you try. you can also check out beth upton's youtube channel, she's an ex-nun of pa auk's monastery. you can book free interviews with her on her site - it's all by donation only.

@tomtillman

2 күн бұрын

@@singh.blaise Bearllande, Who is your teacher? I know of only a few who teach past and future lives as it relates to Dependent Origination. Most schools or teachers do not go this deep. Pa Auk Sayadaw is one of them, Beth Upton is another. 🙏

@singh.blaise

2 күн бұрын

@@tomtillman it was recordings from S. N Goenka and in a centre in Herefordshire, England.

I said BIG NO to Vipassana Retreat - at the very start, before even signing-in - just by reading the Terms and Conditions... ...and learning about about some freaky "Phone Policy" (of giving the cell phone and other belongings to the "supervisor" for the time of retreat "for you own safety"). Sorry, but NO. I just assume we are all adults. Most of us are having full-time jobs and do need to pay the bills. 10 days of retreat can provide great benefits, but is just a costly experience (both time and money). So are we adults... or kids? Found no real justification for this very rule, really. I understand phones can be VERY disturbing. But people and circumstances can be disturbing as well. Pain in the legs can be disturbing. Dogs bark, cats mew, monks fart. But it is WE that make this disturbance, really! And one more impression: the vast majority of people attending are young, immature Peter Pan - like dreamers, self-centred with little or no responsibilities in life, no money, no career, no kids, no purpose, no direction: just roaming. They "seek" for "something", not realising all they seek for is just right inside of them, in this very moment. So, all Goenka's Vipsassana looks is a strange fad for hipsters.

@singh.blaise

4 ай бұрын

Which centre did you visit? 🙏🏼

@hkk__

3 ай бұрын

You sound like someone that could actually benefit from it to be honest. A lot of what you said came across harsh with negative connotation. If it wasnt for you, it wasnt for you. But its worked for so many. And to judge that its young people "Peter Pan" type of fad/fantasy... unnecessary. Although the answer is right, what we seek is within us, and we're searching externally, there is no harm using a guided method through a retreat. Its a collective rising. Some people need accountability and this could help them.

@dirkveen1884

2 ай бұрын

:-))) Don't get all worked up... You don't have to do it...🙂

some one problemetized by cukture of islam will raise for himself much trauma often better to leave alone for another life time .

@singh.blaise

2 ай бұрын

Please explain further...