And it doesn’t cost us viewers anything to join you on your journeys. Thank you very much.

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Our pleasure! Thank you for watching!

You forgot a ‘bits and bobs’ category 😉. I always find that adds up to the most! I’m glad you added on towards the end all the other costs like insurance, maintenance. Obviously they’re very individual but saying your final costs are about 3 x the daily sounds more realistic. I saw in another comment that you haven’t monetised - is that correct? I’d be interested to know your reasons as it’s obvious you spend a lot of time on the videos.

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Lisa said to me afterwards our total is probably closer to 2x (so around 24k per year). But it's all relative after all. Our KZread channel IS monetised. But the revenue from ad views super low. We earn less than 10 EUR per day on avg from KZread. It's a long way from covering even our gear.

Thank you very informative 👍

Once again great content

Beautifully done Andre & Lisa! Thank you for all your detailed information - a great insight! Ronnie & I thoroughly enjoy your outlook and feel we would travel in a similar fashion! I love to cook local produce and Rons great at the dishes 😂 We have a bonus as we don’t drink! But would also eat our body weight in pastries 😂😂😂

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! We'll definately have to reign in the Cava habit a bit this year.. 😋 However, as you say we might just replace it with something else.. 😂

Dankie!!

This is a really fantastic video. Nicely done. Thoughtful and honest. Talking budgets could be sooo boring, but the time and effort you both have put into this is just great. We really liked the breakdown and the way you separated the motorhome running cost. Tyres, servicing, insurance etc. We are also full timers (almost 2 years) and it was interesting to see how we compare. We also eat out occasionally and cook fresh. Simple pleasures and take in free venues and nature, with no definite plan and living free. Thanks Andre and Lisa. Brilliant video. 😊

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Martin! Although our costs and type of travel will not be suitable to everyone, hopefully it serves as some sort of reference point. All the best to you and your travels!

Excellent video as always

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

Awesome video guys!! Very informative!!

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Our pleasure! 🙂

I follow you quite for some time now and love your videos. Quite an inspiration! please keep going on... I also bought a camper recently and soon my dog and I will travel Europe and hope that our paths will cross one day... You are AMAZING Andre and Lisa

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

For sure! All the best with your travel plans!

Thanks for the video very interesting

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it 😎

Fantastic video. So informative. Thanks.

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! 😎

Great vid as always guys 😀🇬🇧👍❤

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Jason!

Thank you for this. Your content is always a pleasure to watch.

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

So nice of you ❤

🙏🏼 Thank you for all your hard work putting these numbers together with the very informative & detailed explanation. I like how you essentially offset rising costs by staying at less paid sites to come in less than 2022 expenses, there’s always a way! All the best, J&P

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

You are so welcome! ❤ Keeping track of spending is something we've always done and we see it as an essential part of making informed decisions.

Very interesting thanks for doing that. I see you’ve painted the wall behind you in a nice dark colour… looks good.

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! It's matt black stick on vinyl. We're super happy with the result.

Hi Andre & Lisa, Just come across your channel and now back tracking over your previous vlogs. Thank you for pulling all these numbers together with the detailed explanations and information. As I am not really good at excel could I ask is it possible to get a copy off your spreadsheet so that I can track our costs for our first trip in Europe this year. I take it that one of you is a chef that you are able to conjure up some decent meals ! Thanks in advance. Drew & Linda🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Hi Drew and Linda! Welcome to our channel! We don't actually have a spreadsheet as such. What we do is to track travel expenses with an app (we use Trabee Pocket) which allows you to create trips and expense categories in multiple currencies. We also use Quicken (in which everything goes) to do reporting.

Hey André & Lisa, love this video, great info, everybody can take something out of this, do exactly the same as they did or do things maybe differantly next time. For me now I am always writing down our expences in a little notebook, but from now one I will use an excell sheet to have a better insight in our expences so we can make changes earlier if necessary. Thank you en groetjes 😘👋

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Hi Rita! For day-to-day expense record keeping there are some super handy apps available. We've been using Trabee Pocket for years now and it really helps to keep track. Are you guys still skiing in Norway? ⛄🏂

@ritalang6964

5 ай бұрын

Thank you for this tip, I have downloaded the app, so we can begin to use it. 😘👋

Off grid really cuts the bill 👍🏻 and having a great cook on board does help too 😂 Really interesting, your numbers!

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Thanks! 😋

Thanks for sharing this last year's costs. I will need to look at your other videos and website to get a better idea of your total costs. We are looking at doing a 3 month exploring trip during the summer months. While our daughter in on vacation from school. But it's looking like $200-$300 a day for a 90 day or les trip.🤔 I'm sure there is a way to get it down while still enjoying some entertainment and excursions. Thanks again 😊

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

For a shorter period (especially over summer) you will definitely be spending a lot. Considering van hire and peak season - as well as the fact that you will be moving faster to see more. You will also want to enjoy more of the local food scene on a shorter trip.

@livingworkingoutsidebox

5 ай бұрын

@@WeWillNomad Very true our tummies will want to try so much of the local dishes. Now add the cost of some museums and operas / plays . Ouch my wallet 😫 hurts just thinking about it. Just need to figure our How to pay for it. 🤔👍

Hi Andre and lisa , We are loving your videos and look forward to every new video for several years now. We are just past our 60s and are aiming to tour in our 10 year old motorhome, 3 months to start and then follow your lead going full time if all goes to plan . I am aware you have the freedom to travel and visit as you please but our conundrum is we have a mid size dog we love to bits. Would it be possible going forward to add a small section, as to any restrictions or complications it would add to your visits/travels for us dog owners. Just a thought of extra valued information that would help immensely many dog owners plans and confidence in traveling. You have replaced for us good viewing on the telly.

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Hi Dave! Thanks for the comment. Many people travel with their pets by motorhome all over Europe and we see it all the time! The size of the dog is clearly to issue to most 😋 If you are from the UK you might need to familiarise yourself with the required paperwork to be able to take your dog with you across borders. (Within the EU you need a 'pet passport' to manage vaccinations and chip information). In some countries where stray dogs are more prevalent (Balkans, Greece) it's slightly more complicated to travel with pets as you need to be a lot more aware of other animals. But it's perfectly doable. I would probably advise against bringing a dog to Morocco. The bigger question is how the dog will adjust to this. Some pets seem to struggle with the change but it will depend on the age and its temperament. Either way, you shouldn't let having a pet stand in your way. All the best with your plans!

Hi there, I found this video very interesting, the number of nights per country, the costs per day, great. I'm not a full timer, but I do the same sort of thing for all my trips in "Kermit". Thanks guys 👍🐸

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! 😎

Very informative, are the costs per person or for a couple (particularly the food). Looking forward to seeing your journey in 2024! Also, keen to know how you managed your finances to get to a point where you could be full time nomads! (FIRE? Lottery winnings? ...)

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Thanks Ian. The costs are our total expenses as a couple. There's very little saving to be made if you are a single person. Clearly, we often get asked how we can afford to travel full-time. Sadly we don't come from rich families. We did not win the lotto. And we definitely do not make money from KZread 😋. We were not on a FIRE path per se, but that thought process did lead to the question of 'when is enough, enough'. Even so, it's a simple answer. You just need time to work in your favor. We had good-earning jobs for 20 years. We spent less than we earned. We prioritized saving and investments. We made some tough choices. We had some good luck and some bad luck. We've always been frugal and we never say no to an opportunity to earn an income. I would like to think we're financially secure, although we're not 'rich'. At the end of the day, it's not how much you earn(have) but how much you spend(keep).

Hi Andre and Lisa, we are inspired by your videos! In one video you specified that it was important to not have a camper/motorhome over 6 metres long (because of the ferries). Can you explain exactly what the issue is. Are there boats that won't take longer campers, or is it just more expensive?

@WeWillNomad

4 ай бұрын

Thanks Justine and welcome to our channel! Most ferries are just much more expensive for vehicles longer than 6m. Especially travelling around Scandinavia this can really add up. We are 6.25m long + bicycle rack so we usually qualify for the 6-7m length class but even this is often 3 times more expensive than

Hi Lisa, I returned to that video as I plan a year trip with my tiny camper. Can you make a video about HOW you log your daily spending? Are you saving all receives and put in an Excel sheet daily/weekly/monthly? Or do you use a debit card such as Wise, which has different spending categories, and you log those data in your Excel sheet? Or....? 🤔

@WeWillNomad

Ай бұрын

Hi! We use an app called "TrabeePocket" to log all our spending. We like it because it can accommodate multiple currencies and you can split or group "travels" and it handles can and cards spending. We've been using it for years and if you pay once off then you can make all your own categories. Good luck with your planning and happy travels! 😊

That’s interesting, in comparison our own budgeting while touring in the USA in our U.K. camper,over the past 11 months: 26550k cost 3500$ in fuel, accommodation 4$ ave per day, sight seeing in 12 National parks subscription to America the Beautiful card 80$ saved 450$ entry fees, insurance for temporarily imported vehicle 1800$ , eating out at least 20$ for 2 coffees and a cake lost count!, return shipping Southampton U.K. to Charleston US 8200$ approximately the same as hiring a similar motorhome for 4000$ per month.

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Wow, that last sentence is sobering. 😬 We always wonder about the feasibilty of shipping. Thanks for sharing that.

I'm interested in how you structured the investment side of things as South Africans? Are you mostly in index etfs? And taxes?

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Fairly simple really. All assets and investments are equally divided between us to optimize tax. We're (stil) registered for tax in SA (ordinarily resident status). Since 2017 we've been liquidating assets in SA (primarily property) and moved ZAR to EUR or USD. Less than 25% of our assets are still in SA mainly in RA's (which we can't access yet), TFS and the odd discretionary investment. Apart from RA's t this is mostly in ZAR denominated low-cost broad-based ETFs like Satrix MSCI World. For our offshore investments we use Interactive Brokers and pretty much only hold the Vanguard FTSE All World (VWRL) in EUR. We're taxed on world wide income in SA but we take advantage of rebates and allowances as best as possible. As we don't really have much of an income our tax liability is actually very low. If you have more questions feel free to send an email.

@hj007

5 ай бұрын

@@WeWillNomad thanks for that, will drop you a mail on 1 or 2 specifics. Thanks for the in-depth video and response.

Off grid is looking less of a concern than I thought....

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

For sure! It took us a while but we're very comfortable now.

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very good, but I travel with you. 😄 haha. yes you visited here and food is very expensive, eye watering expensive, greed is everywhere, take care you two..

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Thank you! We've definitely learnt to stock up on a few essentials before we go to those really expensive places. It sometimes help. Unless Lisa gets an icecream craving. 😂

Thanks for spending the time to collate and share with us these stats. - I didn't realise that you would need to purchase extra insurance for Albania or another country. I assumed that once you were insured and legal to drive in another country that was it. - Wow, 17 nights off-grid. Very impressive. - We spent the last two nights in Dublin attending a football match. We parted with over 100 EUROs for dinner for two on Sunday night and over 40 EUROs for breakfast this morning. I need to learn how to cook..... - I love that chocolate has its own segment on the piechart ! - Oh my, I fear that our dining out costs would be crazy. How much does Andre charge per day as a chef ? - great information on the cell data costs - I am amazed and glad at how low your LPG costs are. Heating costs in Western Europe are crazy during the winter. - Can you recommend a Campervan club where you can benefit from group insurance ? - I actually thought that you weren't going to include health insurance and was thinking about that. Cos... it can be significant. But then you did. Very comprehensive budget breakdown guys. - your final point, about the other ancillary or lifestyle (living) costs was a good one to make. I was thinking, what about when you need to buy a brolly cos its raining or a new pair of wellies cos its... raining. or a new pair of sunglasses cos you want to show your viewers who might live in colder climes that the warm sun is blinding you. Or, clothes/consumables etc. So, 3 times those itemized costs to me seems fair. This video is gold dust. And I really mean that. The time, effort, care and attention to detail that you both have spent on summing up all of these items will save people money. The key takeaway for me is that we need to somehow coax Andre away from Lisa for most of the year so that he can maintain our vehicle, cook our breakfast, dinner & tea and then... only then will we be able to afford to be nomadic. I'd say two croissants a day and a nice cold beer in the evening should do it ;-)

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

Ronan! Now we know why we can't come to Ireland. We can't afford breakfast there! 😂😂 Not sure it will cut your costs much if you need me (Andre) at hand for all those tasks. Two croissants might not cut it 😇😋

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The most amazing part of the whole video and the one you spent 0 time on detailing is your average km/day - 39km/day. That is the reason most people will find this impossible, 30 Euro/day cost. And that is the reason for it - it took you 288 days to travel 11.323km. I had one trip last year, 10 days, 3060km. That's 306km/day = 10 times more than your average. And I believe more people are in my situation than in your situation - I can't leave for more than 2-3 weeks in one go, I have to come back to the kids, cats, dogs, house, jobs, etc. I envy you!

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

In fairness, we often said we travel slow and not everyone will travel like us. Traveling fast is a choice. Unless you're on a motorcycle trip 3000km's in 10 days sounds more like a road trip than a holiday.

@lecsu131

5 ай бұрын

@@WeWillNomadtraveling slow is one thing, traveling Andre & Lisa style - that's something completely different. Don't get me wrong, I WOULD LOVE to be able to travel THAT slow. After you posted the clip and I saw it I spent an hour discussing it with my wife and telling her "See?! That's why we were so freaked out about the gas cost when we went in the last trip!! That's not the way to use a motorhome!" :). When will you make a clip titled "How can we afford to be on the road 24/7/365" ?

@johudson6765

5 ай бұрын

Well that was very interesting and useful… and as you said that’s how you guys do it … thank you so much for putting that together…it’s always helpful for us ‘vanlifers to be’ we too plan to l live slowly! And you have demonstrated that you can still cover ground and countries 🤩 Awesome thanks again… and you always present articulately🙏🥰

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

@@johudson6765 Thank you Jo!

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

@@lecsu131 Perhaps it will make you feel better to know that full time travel isn't always sunsets and beers on the beach.😋 Affording it.. Now that's a whole different question... 🙂But we try to make the most of this phase and we're definately fortunate.

Wow, interesting for sure, but for me🫣I don't know😁 I will rather travel there, through your videos 👌

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

😋It's 'different' that's for sure. But there's a lot to love. Perhaps by the end of our trip you will have changed your mind..

@davidadebruyn2653

5 ай бұрын

@@WeWillNomad don't know, I am not that adventurous 🫣

@WeWillNomad

5 ай бұрын

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