@Matt Risinger - per some other comments, would be great to see a part 2 showing how the electrical & plumbing get added and how that costs out.

@raymondpeters9186

21 күн бұрын

Plumbers and electricians charge a premium for Sips installs As an electrician I know I did and it's a pain in the butt

@srbh41413

21 күн бұрын

@@raymondpeters9186 Is it possible to explain a bit about why that is?

@deejayitalo

21 күн бұрын

Just build an installation layer?

@N20Joe

20 күн бұрын

@@srbh41413 You have to fish in everything. It's not just open and accessible like stick framing so it's like double the labor hours. This build looks like they have some pre-fab electrical installed so that's cool but if you want to add anything later it's a big deal.

@mikedandar1171

19 күн бұрын

@@raymondpeters9186My electricians charge the same as if they were stick framing. They said even though they fish more of the wire, there is less drilling through studs. There’s also other time-savers they’ve learned after doing so many SIP homes.

I built my own 3400sq ft sip house a year ago. Conventional framed floor and stepped heal trusses for insulation. I would say it's unnecessary to use sips in the floor because that gave us space to run plumbing. We did use sip panels in the vaulted living room because it gave us the best bang for the R value buck. Running wiring is a pain because of the way they cut the chase with a hot wire (leaves a slit on one side). The romex gets stuck a lot at the wall joints. Plumbing is impossible though. I kept all the water on the interior and ran the sink drains straight through the floor. I would totally do it again because now I have a very tight efficient house. I did hire the hvac out, and the tech said he couldn't believe how infrequent the heating cycles were. Anyway, I wrote a book by now, lol. Thanks, Matt, for all the great info over the years. I definitely used a bunch of your tips and tricks to make my home R-ighteous.

@quagengineer1877

13 күн бұрын

Hey,what book, please?

@houmanghasemian3580

10 күн бұрын

The i wrote a long comment on you tube and now looking for a publisher book​@quagengineer1877

@copernicusvanstruselclit9508

6 күн бұрын

congratulations, curious how much it costed and how much did you hire out/act as general contractor? If you don;t mind me asking.

So much potential, love the ease of build with supplies and tools. Any issues with off gassing?

Michigan here.. so happy to have been guided to your video by KZread. I am thinking of building a small house community on twenty acres of land for people who can't afford the high cost of rent in the metro Detroit area and don't need the space of a whole house. I hope this company can ship to Michigan because it looks like a great fit for what I am thinking of.

There is no reason in our day-and-age that we would be unable to build super-efficient (and robust) houses in a couple of days. There will always be a market for "quick, cheap, effective and reliable shelter".

@anonymous..-

21 күн бұрын

You just described mobile homes.

@hebdschnure

21 күн бұрын

Wouldnt call that robust

@dirtbike662

20 күн бұрын

Laws are written so that houses don't look the same. As well as people seem to "like the look of it" This leads to cut up roof lines and weird ass layouts. That involves tons of math and dumb ass trim details. All costs money, labor, and wasted materials. And if the details arent maintained properly it gets costly to repair.

@Michael-Youtube98

20 күн бұрын

@@dirtbike662 Usually see giant HOA communities with "similar" houses but yeah, most don't like the look of the same house in all 4 directions. Unfortunately these giant communities are mass produced and quality is definitely sacrificed for production speed

@TheRusschannel

18 күн бұрын

Greed sill makes the house 3x the cost for homeless, for example

I did the same thing when I worked for Insulspan. Pulte homes in the late 90's wanted 2, 2 story homes built in 2 days. Built the first floors on both in 2hrs each. They built the second floors. I came back the next day 4hrs for the second floor walls and roof.

I saw in another video how they attached the drywall on the roof panels before they flew them in. This allowed the drywall to be attached while on the ground so it only had to be taped after being installed. Another great time saver. I imagine on a smaller house like this, you also do the side wall the same way.

a friend of mine is a builder in South Dakota that builds exclusively with Extreme Panel. He's very meticulous with his builds.

I especially love the foundation, 15 minutes and it was already set squared and the floor was down. THAT’S BOSS! Love to see the first 15 mins btw;)

Amazing. And it’s PA! He’s a great guy. My wife and I spent a day with him (and a hundred other fans!) at MMF for our 30th anniversary. Great host, as you would expect.

@arresthillary9502

19 күн бұрын

seems like a real fruitloop

They need to team up with huber and make ZipSips.

Next question If you use Sips for the floor how do you seal the bottom of the panel to protect it from water?

I've seen this done is Europe with larger homes taking a maximum of 7 days. Electric lines are routed through the walls. This is going to be my next build. So happy to see it being done in America.

I grew up in central Arkansas watching PAS on TV every week. Great to see he's continued to grow!

OMG! P Allen Smith! Wow! I am a Master Gardener in Maryland and have been watching him for years! How cool is this entire episode!

Nice to see more mature van lifers sharing the adventure & doing it solo (like myself) ... I've just found your channel... Although I'm doing the conversion on a 12.5 Mtr bus - I do appreciate the agility & flexibility of a van. Really is an individual choice, yet the independence & variety of experiences is priceless. Keep making videos, they'll only get better.

I've met Perry and I've toured the factory. My cousin is from Cottonwood and he tells me he helped fabricate some of their initial manufacturing equipment.

Really cool Matt, would love see these when they're done 😃👍🏼👊🏼

Super good video. Coolest thing I've ever seen. House up in a half a day and ready for finishing.

I can't believe there was zero mention on how electrical & plumbing get added to a sealed wall, or how the bottom is protected from moisture! Neat concept, but missing the details on the elephants in the room!

@alankusov6079

21 күн бұрын

For electrical it would be neat to have a race at the base that can be covered by a baseboard. Unfortunately their sill plate detail won’t allow for it.

@AmandaComeauCreates

20 күн бұрын

Plumbing and electrical is probably already taken care of by chases manufacturers into the panels or taken care of by adding furring between wall and drywall finishes

@N20Joe

20 күн бұрын

@@alankusov6079 That would be and excellent workaround. Even better would be a small boxed out top piece so you don't lose any floor space.

@jwristen24

20 күн бұрын

​@N20Joe suppose you could run interior framing with mini spilts. Would losr 8" of interior space but could also insulate that space too.

@AwakeningWARRlOR

18 күн бұрын

​@@AmandaComeauCreatesReading your comments, must be a relative or complete more•on.

I fan-girled so hard. I love P. Allen Smith! Made me fall in love with gardening with perennials

my favorite build yet!

I would love to see a part 2 showing the house completely finished and move in ready ❤️

I was looking into this literally yesterday!

I love the no drywall aspect that SIPS have which means no mold and few allergies.

Awesome video Matt, been looking at doing something just like this!

Looks really cool - would love something like this for a house I’d like to build in Maine. Really curious on how the electrical and plumbing gets handled though!

I really am impressed with this concept and the builds! I'm definitely going to save the website and look at the possibility of going with one of their larger homes to be built for me. Just so awesome!

Could you tell me how great this product you are being paid to promote is? I really value your objective and informed opinion on building techniques.

Guys like Matt and Allen make me feel like I need to get to work.

Matt ? What about CSIPS ? Or SIPFORMS ? Cement fiberboard SIPS ? Won't mold, swell up from moisture or getting wet. More durable.

very nice houses

@raymondpeters9186

21 күн бұрын

Not

@dontrend5956

21 күн бұрын

It's a glorified shed.

It's great to see this SIP project. I think SIP construction has been ignored for far too long. I believe the use of SIPs is really the answer to weather-tight and energy-efficient construction provided that you install the proper ventilation such as an ERV/HRV. I would use SIPs to build my dream home. However, I would install an interior furred wall for electrical and plumbing. I know that the chases can be done in the factory, but I'd rather not compromise the R-value of the panel. Also, I would apply a peel-and-stick WRB or roll on some Proseco on the exterior. I think that if the price of the panels can remain approachable, SIPs can definitely catch on. It shouldn't be so hard and expensive to build quickly and efficiently in the year 2024. When I see that we can build rockets to go to the moon or telescopes that can see the beginnings of the universe and we still can't build a house quickly and efficiently...well...it just makes me scratch my head. Thanks for this video. Like others commenting, I wouldn't mind seeing how plumbing and electrical are handled.

Extreme panel - cost more for the material but save soo much on labor, what is your cost per sq/ft? Can you use simple plans to make a large, affordable house?

I would put some of that liquid zip system water barrier plastic paint on the outside of all that wood.

Still waiting for the metal sips episode of the build show!

I know SIPs seem strange to some people and I understand the questions, but my parents had a SIPs cottage built almost 20 years ago and it has been great and functions and looks like any other house, except it was well insulated and tight. It’s been renovated nicely in the meantime, but only in the interior, no additions. Our family gathered and helped with setup-just one guy and us to put up the walls, and then he had the crane and crew do the roof panels

@SheppardsinthefieldsBethlehem

5 күн бұрын

No problems with the foam delamination separation from the OSB with the glue ? The OSB doesn't delaminate from being wet or swell up ? If I were to build a house I would built it with shipping containers and insulate it inside and the exterior with the product called : INSOFAST.

This is really neat. I would require some sturdy wire mesh or aluminum panels on the floor panel to ensure the critters stay out. I’ve seen rats and mice do some heinous damage to would and foam.

How about critters tunneling through that foam? We got architectural foam trim on our commercial tilt-up and the birds just found out they can tunnel into them and they are making it look like swiss cheese.

@daledickey8400

21 күн бұрын

Should not be an issue, none of the foam is exposed, it's covered with OSB or trim.

@mikedandar1171

19 күн бұрын

I use their panels…. They use a special OSB that’s treated to repel critters and insects.

Interesting, can these be built over a traditional basement? Also, does EP offer garage kits? If so, what's the apprx cost of a 20x20 garage?

As a framer. Yes there are people that could frame it in a day.

@Mystprism

16 күн бұрын

Frame, insulate, and sheath the floor, walls, and roof?

The future when everyone lives in a foam shed

Matt .. how would Joe Lstiburek detail the outside walls and roof. Would he add furring strips for the roof and siding. Where is the WRB? The floor system is very interesting.

A dried in shell in a day is pretty impressive and the price is fair. I wonder if they can use ZIP panels as the outer layer?

@ssoffshore5111

21 күн бұрын

I don't see why you couldn't!

@raymondpeters9186

21 күн бұрын

If it rains on the house for a week that would be bad OSB and water don't mix

When I watched PBS years back Allen Smith was always worth a look-at. The Man has a real sense of style and it's amazing what He has done at Moss Mountain Farm in very few years. Very much like his new endeavor.

I'm curious what as to what wall and roof sections pricing like the easier the cheaper per square foot.. ?

I would love one of those! But would need someone to put it together for me. Then I could take it from there.

Better hope your house never floods that would be bad OSB and water don't mix

@pcatful

21 күн бұрын

True of any house sheathed in OSB, and they are all over the place.If you think plywood is better, I bet they could make one with plywood instead.

@N20Joe

20 күн бұрын

@@pcatful Yeah except in this case the OSB is your structural support

@raymondpeters9186

20 күн бұрын

​@@pcatfulI don't build with wood For building wood is no good Three little pigs

@pandagold4722

17 күн бұрын

How about dont build in a flood zone? Wake up america. Stop building in flood zones. No wood framed construction can withstand a flood.

Hello P.Allen Smith 🖐👍✌

SIP and ICF are the only sane way to build a house today.

How do you get the electrical and plumbing in the walls...

@enwinn

21 күн бұрын

There are wire chases (holes) bored at specific spacing for pulling wires. You do not put plumbing inside SIPs. Typically you'll run plumbing inside an interior wall.

I saw one of these go up a few years ago and they had it dried in in a day. 2 guys.

Manor Lords.

Just lift it and put a garage underneath :) I do like the reviews of the SIP houses.

I agree. Well this one as is is going for 22, 700 guess we could always prices May fluctuate And I guess contractors aren't here in Central Florida. But anyway, looks like a great product $22,700 so of course you got the plumbing and the electrical and r value. Oh yeah don't forget the AC

Matt, where are the prefab ADU Sip homes being offered? Any link?

This is how we build Hollywood sets.

If they had a predesigned quadplex I'd be onboard in a hot second.

Really want to understand how electric and plumbing is done with this system.

Very vernacular

How is the moisture being handled in these sip structures?

@AmandaComeauCreates

20 күн бұрын

Vapour open water barrier on the outside so the osb can dry to the outside. Blue seal has a peel in stick membrane but there's others. Gotta be careful with rainscreen and siding but totally doable. Inside is much the same, vapour open barrier and careful install of furring strips and drywall/panelling

@davideakin7434

17 күн бұрын

​@@AmandaComeauCreatesAlso needs advanced interior air management (IAQ, humidity).

I believe the engineers, but sips will always freak me out.

Could you do a barn or garage with this?

@daledickey8400

21 күн бұрын

Absolutely, there are commercial applications available as well. SIP has been around for years in a variety of materials including metal.

I'm almost wondering if it wouldn't make more sense to just sell totally the "framed" kit/structures w/o the door(s) or window openings since to seems like it would be pretty easy to cut those out as desired for each individual at the jobsite.

If you built out a shipping container home off site you can set in 10 minutes

Interesting know how health can be affected with such a technology.

How is the electrical added to the walls...lights, switches, cable tv...

@buildshow can you make a video about German rolladens?

wonder what the VOC's are for chemical sensitivities

I wonder if they could roll on a WRB all around the house like a basic shower with red guard and maybe add zip tape at the seams.

@tedpereboom6983

20 күн бұрын

Prosoco cat 5 is what I would do on the walls.

I wonder when one of these sip companies will partner with zip sheathing for a better exterior product that eliminates the need to weatherproof it. Or apply a similar product to the exterior of the sip panels.

Hows the off gassing?

@mikedandar1171

19 күн бұрын

extremepanel.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/Tech-Bull-16c-panels-off-gasing.pdf

@AwakeningWARRlOR

18 күн бұрын

Toxic

Matt, you should have stopped him at ‘a house needs to breath’.

@daledickey8400

21 күн бұрын

That part is done with HVAC install, this was a structural video showing speed and ease. It would be cool to see a full process of SIP planning through completion.

Is that daylight that I see inside the ADU at the top left corner? If so, what is the remedy?

They are going to want to beef up that roof for mass appeal. In Georgia, new construction needs R38 on the roof of a new dwelling.

@Vipe694

18 күн бұрын

The panels can be up to 12 1/4" thick which is about an r49 I believe.

Are you sure, there aren't quite a lot of framers that could manage to frame something like this in a day?

I would run vapor barrier, then rockwool with furring strips on exterior

How are they handling condensation at the ridge? I did not see any gap and have not seen any other photos on there site to suggest they have any management for the ridge.

@buildshow

20 күн бұрын

The key is good air sealing inside and out. Air flow through the ridge will rot it out

@AwakeningWARRlOR

18 күн бұрын

How to suffocate the home and occupants, talk about toxic off gasing with nowhere to go.

Giving me SIPs ptsd from my home build. Our builder was like "oh yeah 2 weeks" for our 1700 sqft, had the high lift, he way overpromised for his level of experience and only having a couple guys. Started right AFTER Christmas after delays related to his other work (moving a skylift costs $$) and guess what he says they can't let that butyl caulk freeze for between the SIPs, wound up being a few months. SIPs are a neat idea, they do constrain you for modifications after build, but ask lots of questions and be more discerning about the builder.

What’s the fire rating, is the foam flammable? What happens if you get a water leak…hole in roof or burst pipe? How do you repair it?

If they made Hemp SIPS that would be great

its only the framing? we could frame a house in two days too

@QuadTAZ

21 күн бұрын

Insulation and blocking too. Doubt you could frame a house in two days with two people so I'm guessing there's some cost savings in labor there.

SIPs are great but not these specific ones. There needs to be some structure in the walls to transfer loads. Also the outer shell panels look like they’re just waiting to get wet and disintegrate. There are much better quality SIPs available.

@JCII100

20 күн бұрын

Like? Used MGO SIP?

@magictrading8903

20 күн бұрын

Steel sips - stronger, lighter, cheaper overall, just all around better but maybe that’s why they don’t need to pay Matt to be on his channel.

@JCII100

10 күн бұрын

@@magictrading8903 from where?

OK... I will use this with the bardimonium to create a big insulated home in record time.

2 hour build, is that the trick to getting the structure up before the HOA or code compliance has a chance to red flag it? haha

The walls on my personal house are 24" thick

I watched a building made with the same technology as these panels and a small fire started and the Whole 4 story building was toasted in less than 10 mins. Building had no chance.

What does he think "vernacular" means?

@jong2359

20 күн бұрын

He is trying to say "ordinary" or "common" without saying ordinary or common. It is kind of annoying.

Would this hold up in a hurricane zone? Think Florida, Caribbean

lets get goinggggg

1 Hour House Assembly

@buildshow

21 күн бұрын

True

Anyone know if these meet CA code for earthquake safety?

@mikedandar1171

19 күн бұрын

Yes, they do. From their ICC-ES Evaluation Report ESR-4524: 4.1.8.1 Seismic Design Categories A, B and C: The shear wall configurations in Table 10 were monotonically tested to determine performance. These shearwalls are limited to structures in Seismic Design Categories A, B and C. 4.1.8.2 Seismic Design Categories A through F: The shear wall configurations in Table 11 were tested cyclically in shear with a combined vertical load. These shearwalls may be used in structures in Seismic Design Categories A through F.

When you showed the finish buildings you didn't show the bathrooms or kitchen I wonder why???

No continous tape for the roof joint at the ridge.

Doesn’t look like the plywood was cut to put in electrical. Are they just stabbing a forcefully pushing through the foam with fish rods??

What happens if it gets wet.

Okay matt You did not build a house in 1 day You assembled a house in 1 day The house was built in a factory, I'm very impressed

@buildshow

17 күн бұрын

True. The preassembly in the factory is what makes it so quick in the field. I think the thing I like about this particular manufacture is their excellent preplanning so that things in the field go extremely well.

Wind rating?

@AwakeningWARRlOR

18 күн бұрын

1 mph

And they laughed at sliced bread.

The one good thing is zero waste