Great River Taoist Center
Great River Taoist Center
Great River was founded in 1984 by a circle of serious Taijiquan (Tai Chi Chuan) practitioners. For nearly three decades, the center has been focused on presenting the complete art, in all its aspects from the meditative to the martial. As such, Great River offers classes in the complete system from proper body mechanics and qi (chi) development learned through form work, interactive training in push hands, real self-defense practiced through full-contact sanshou, and strength training via traditional weapons as well as historical swordplay.
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need more. maybe the differences in usage or technique between shuangshoujian and miaodao. or between danshoujian and shuangshoujian. or maybe you can use this for taiji jian form, with some adjustment
Absolutely fascinating!! I love these Show and Tell they're just so damn interesting and well delivered!
Are these tsubo (sword guards) expensive or hard to get? Sure would make a nice present for some executive (or myself) as an art piece or simply as a paper weight. Dragons are auspicious (cross or no cross).
Depends. That are lots of "nanban" tsuba on the market. There can be a fairly wide price range depending on the quality of the carving. If you specifically want a Chinese Export Guard, those are more rare and you probably need some experience to determine if it is Chinese, or a Japanese Copy, or a Japanese interpretation.
Thanks for the Tour Gavin!
What is that you say at the end of your videos? Sounds like dai jian? What does it mean? It's cool to find a youtube channel to learn about this stuff, it's not commonly found
Sorry, when? What's the time code? Maybe it was Daimyo? The Japanese term for local lords.
@@scottm.rodellgrtc2969 I believe Shindai is referring to your Chinese sign off at the very end of the video. "See you again" in Mandarin.
@@bmoviebmovie ah, I say, "Zàijiàn (再見)." That Mandarin for goodbye.
Is this an above average condition for it's age? I would have thought an iron piece with gold wash, of about 350 y/o would have condition issues.
I would say not, though I can see why you would ask that question. So long as something like this is kept out of the weather, it can remain in good condition. Something that probably wouldn't be possible for a trooper, but is for a man of rank who would have carried the sword this guard would have been mounted on, it is.
An interesting article on Export Guards by J. L. McElhinney- needlewatcher.com/marketplace/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Dragon-Gate-Tsuba.pdf
Love the exploration of the art style and practical parts of the sword guards!
Interested in learning more about these Chinese Export Sword Guards? Check out this excellent article by James Lancel McElhinney - www.mcelhinneyart.com/jlmcelhinney/wp-content/uploads/2022/12/JLM_Orientations.pdf
Where did you get that two handed Jian from both real and wooden?
The Antique Swords are from Rodell Laoshi's personal collection. As a dealer of Antique Chinese Swords for 3 Decades he collected a few for himself (his company is Seven Stars Trading Co.). The Wooden Jian was made by Tiger's Den, but they are no longer in operation. Try Santosh Weapons in Canada.
Many thanks for focussing on the sabre. Great video.
You are certainly welcome. Single handed Daofa & Miaodao are as much a part of training at the Academy as Jianfa- www.chineseswordacademy.com/
Hello, I wasn´t able to find the registration to this program on www.chineseswordacademy.com/. Could you point me to where I could do that? Thank you in advance.
sounds fun good luck guys
Thanks!
Excellent video as usual from Rodell Laoshi
We really appreciate the support, thanks! Another new video is out Tomorrow, 10 AM EST.
Excellent video. Two handed swordsmanship is a neglected part or Chinese Martial history
Many Thanks!
I love Crane Sword Studios' jian, but I will flag that the Wenge Wood (and Daniel says it as well) is *not* for sparring/contact, it will break quickly, even a light tap against something will knock off splinters. It's a lighter weight for recovery days, long training sessions, and aesthetics. His Hickory jian however are top notch.
Funny I've not had any issues doing contact work with my Wenge wood jian. I found the grain to be really dense and a weighty sword. Definitely have not had anything splinter off of it and I've gone pretty hard with it. It's not my regular jian for sparring, because knocks are more visible than my lighter hickory jian.
34:00 for Weapons. Great review and prioritization of protective gear.
Purpleheart Armoury in the USA sells a decent synthetic dao. They actually sell 2 different dao, but one of them is way too light. However, the other dao has been nice to spar with.
I believe one of their current Jian is based on the Junior Jian design I worked on with them a few years ago. Funnily enough, Christian did reach out to me a few months ago, I did reply but haven't heard back from him.
This is really awsome!
Thanks, we're working to make it so.
Maybe you could glue long strips of velcro on the bayonet stock, and on the Dadao edge to simulate a bit of bite.
To be honest, there are only a few techniques from the Dadao manual that need to be adapted, and it actually forces you to have to really clean with the cuts to get that percussive impact to knock the attack off line.
Hello , I’m curious, did the Chinese every used any blunt weapons with shield , to break opponents armor. The full Ming coat of plates , looks impervious to sword cuts.
Yes, both single handed and two-handed blunt Iron Rods were used. And yes, you can't cut through armor. Wouldn't be any point to wearing it if you could.
@@mugenGRTC多謝你。
i love Chinese longswords!
Nice
Thanks.
You make a really good point that no matter HEMA guys or swordsmanships guys try to interpret manuel or understand arts from Asia, they try using POV of Europe especially German and Italian. But they kind of forgotten there's still lineage of martial arts and swordsmanship in these places. And they kind of use their own preconception to read those stuff which is a non-sense as the "context", they always mentioning are totally different.
One of things that is completely different between Chinese Sword Arts and HEMA is that the Chinese Arts didn't die. They came close, but are still here. So we aren't interpreting from old books, we're reviving the tradition.
But the tradition hasnt been used för so long. Just look at Chinese kungfu etc its so unrealistic and impractical. Its been watered down
@@a.m928 That is true of many lineages, but please take a look at the work we've been doing for 3 decades now, training that has always included full-contact swordplay with historically accurate weapons. There are also regular tournament thru the Traditional Chinese Sword League where there are no off limit targets and strikes and throws are allowed.
@@mugenGRTC I think our discussion better end here as we will end up in the classic traditional martial arts are uselss, unrealistic and impractical debate. And with respect as it's Mr. Rodell channel it's his decision for how deep is his video showing and sharing, especially nowaday people seems not to treasure such knowlodge and tradition.
@@mugenGRTC Gonna say at least those arts spread across the world and most people treasure and preserve it far better than Chinese themselves. Hong Kong, Taiwan, South East Asia, Japan and various China town in Western world. If it was not those places, those arts must have been dead.
Awesome! I'm going to rejoin...right now lol
Scott, i've really been enjoying your videos. Instructive as well as giving a good historical background to things. However, i have to ask: Has anyone mentioned you look and sound like Kevin Sorbo? I say that with a smile (but not as an insult). I just occationally find myself thinking "are they related?" Peace. :)
Thanks, and yes. And also David Carradine!
Nice video! That 6lb two handed jian looks massive. It would be fun to get a reproduction and do some cutting with it!
It would, but man would that be expensive. There are lots of failures in the quench of such long blades. If memory serves, I recall a smith telling me that about 1 on 3 of such long blades will fail in the quench.
Look up L K Chen swords - they produce some earlier (Chu) longswords (42" blade) and sabres up to the Imperial Guards' Dao (42.5" blade). These swords are not cheap but are reported (see Matt Easton on KZread) to be very good. All the best.
@@michaelel650 LK Chen is one of many... another good source for historically accurate Chinese Swords is The Art of Fire & Iron- fire-and-iron.weebly.com/
Kind of sounds to me that the 4 general categories presented are like in reality two categories and its counters ... The striking cut methods and the blocking cuts to neutralize them ... The thrusting methods and the washing methods to neutralize them ... I believe it is logical to assume washing parrying was meant to solve thrusting attacks as that way no edge damage was incurred. Using washing parry to strikes may cause incidental unwanted edge collision, but the blocking cut would capitalize and take advantage of the opponents opening to generate a powerful strike ... On the contrary, a thrust attack is not so open nor it haves the broad trajectory that makes blocking cuts possible, yet washing seems a more natural way to deflect them ... or maybe I'm just inventing things myself? ... what do you think?
Absolutely, these 4 types of cuts can also be divided into 2 types of methodologies. Those 2 being Active and Passive, or actions where one is in the tactically superior position and can cut, and actions where the duifang is in the superior position tactically and one must neutralize before counter-cutting.
jette un oeil à la vidéo Swordsman vs. Arrow- Sword Cuts Speeding Arrow, ça te donnera des idées pour la prochaine fois
Great video! Having peered into this manual a bit, I do wonder what relationship its techniques have to what was truly used at the time, combat-wise. Bearing in mind of course that no manual by itself is the infallible word of what was done, as no single source can be. If I remember correctly, certain verses in its "songs" indicated the intent of passing it on and sharing it, moreso than literal military sword drills, as two handed swordsmanship even at that time was an ancient tradition essentially on life support. Specifically double-edge, that is. Long saber still seemed fairly relevant of course. It is peculiar how undamaged the edges of your antiques there are. It makes me wonder exactly who used them and in what context. Surely, even if edge deflections weren't a common practice, would not there be nicks and dings on the flat? Or edge damage from other things, such as striking hard armor or other inevitable edge contact that would ensue from the chaos of battle? If those swords were already used for traditional martial art purposes at their time, that would make sense. But for a sword that has seen war to be so pristine, it makes me wonder. I cannot speak to the greater whole of wu bei zhi since I have only looked at this chapter, but large military compendiums like that if I'm not mistaken also record tactics, weapons and other things that were prototype ideas but never actually saw widespread, if any, use. As well as what was actually done. Sort of an evolution of ideas. At least that's the impression I get from people I've talked about this stuff with. Could be wrong though. Sorry for the long comment. I just love to nerd out about this sort of thing.
Thanks for the through comment... I know that the idea of edge parrying not being a method in Chinese Sword Arts is something some question. But the no-nonsense reality is that we simply do not find any evidence of consistent edge parrying on antique Chinese Swords. I've been quite fortunate to handle over 3,000 period Chinese blades. For example, I once spent a blissful afternoon in the Vault of the State Historical Museum in Moscow handling all their Chinese weapons and more. None of these swords show the kind of edge damage seen on European blades that resulted from edge parrying. We do see some edge damage from incidental edge on edge contact on Chinese Swords. However, it is important to note that none of this damage is consistently positioned in the same area of the blades. In other terms, it appears randomly here and there in the blade. This confirms that edge parrying was not a standard method commonly employed. Given the total lack of physical evidence of edge parrying on period Chinese Swords, the only sensible, logical conclusion is that it did not occur in any fashion that could be considered orthodox. And indeed, the traditional teaching of Chinese Sword Arts is to deflect with the blade flat. Therefore, the lack of edge damage is not peculiar, but expected.
Thank you very much for sharing with the community, just out of curiosity, what measurements are the wooden sword that you are using in the video? Is that wooden sword based on some historical piece?
It has a 31" blade as that this the max length allowed in the Traditional Chinese Sword League Tournaments. Period Shuangshoujian have longer blades.
@@mugenGRTC thank You very much.
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It’s so good to talk about these issues. Many use images and manuals as “gospel” but it’s so often misunderstood. These videos are great!
Manuals and period images are quite helpful, but we need to look at all the available material, including the weapons themselves. Handling old, period blades, they have damage, signs of the combat they endured, that also informs is as to how they were employed. For example, when it comes to Chinese Swords and Swordsmanship, there's no evidence, no signs of damage to the blade, that regular edge parry produces. If there's zero evidence of something, then it didn't exist.
Thanks to everyone that helps crank out these videos!
Civilian verses Military Sword Arts - Q & A on Chinese Swordsmanship Series: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nnWXqKaOmdHMnqQ.html
were there Later periods Chinese swords that were made with European manufactured blades or redesigned from captured Western or Japanese swords?
The Qing New Army employed European Type Sabers, some appear to made locally, others are imports see: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZGqtx8Obhpispqw.html
Someone saw my sparring videos with longsword in HEMA and noticed similarities between our philosophies in sword play. Glad to be a subscriber and am excited to learn and refine my style. Amituofo!
Welcome!
nice video
Thanks!
Was asking if there was playback speed control so inappropriate? :/ I find it easier to concentrate on talking if it's slightly sped up is all
Absolutely. There is a playback speed setting! :)
Great! Will be recommending this to our group!
Very helpful, detailed explanations, thanks!
Thanks Gavin, this looks great!
Another great video, thanks 🙏
Great to see you stay active, Rodell老师. Best Wishes
Excellent instructions here. Very basic but very precise. Thank you, Sifu Rodell.
Excellent. Thanks for your Support!
Love your channel. Will enjoy it even more when we get you set up with a better wireless mic :)
Are there any accounts of these Chinese sabers facing European Bayonets and swords of the era ?
Could the "button" on the utility knife both be the pearl the dragon seeks along with for ease of pulling it out?
Ok,what is about if someone sad... "Choping-Pi,flicking-Beng,hacking-Zhan,smearing-Muo"
A superb offering. Much much appreciated.
Thanks for your support, it's genuinely appreciated!