Living in China as an expat, I own a Kawasaki Z900 naked bike and a Kove 800x Pro ADV, I use them to travel and make some videos. Hope you enjoy the channel!
What variant are you riding? Pro? Rally? Standard?
@NelisjvrКүн бұрын
@@99SSC 800x Pro
@Team-fabulous3 күн бұрын
Nice but we are already hearing camshaft issues from this KTM clone engine...
@NelisjvrКүн бұрын
@@Team-fabulous well... It's better to see than hear...I've had it for almost a year now, 13 000km and zero issues, did a cam inspection and was still like factory cams...so my suggestion is not to believe what you hear...a lot of people are trying to bad mouth Kove, because no one can provide a bike of this calibre at the price!
@Team-fabulousКүн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr yes I think the Kove is a great looking bike and would consider buying one but what I read on the web about their engines and even on the KTM platform can only influence us..
@NelisjvrКүн бұрын
@@Team-fabulous definitely...the KTM cam issue is a big concern...especially if you pay that amount of money...you don't expect things like that to happen...fortunately for me, the Kove is really well priced, and according to Kove they have changed the critical components to make it better and longer lasting, so far so good!👌🏻
@Team-fabulousКүн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr gonna buy me one.....
@marcutrillogibert91546 күн бұрын
Nice Bach plate, I cannot find in ALiexpress
@Nelisjvr3 күн бұрын
@@marcutrillogibert9154 you can buy one on Uncle Wang shop!👌🏻
@marcutrillogibert9154Күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr Many thanks Did you check the capacity of the tank? I ve drive since bike stoped and only 17,8 l go in.
@kkhalifah10196 күн бұрын
Where does the battery go? The engine looks the same as the KTM one in the CFmoto 800MT, and those Taisko calipers look an awful lot like the Brembo Stylema monoblocks on my Tiger. Lighter and better specced than the Transalp, whose tubed tyres are a deal-breaker for me.
@Nelisjvr3 күн бұрын
@@kkhalifah1019 the battery is in the front left panel, in front of the fuel tank. Super compact and well designed! Engine is not the same as the KTM. They changed a lot and improved some small things! Ys it's basically the Brembo copy...the pads are even the same!👌🏻
@droflivelife6 күн бұрын
I'm like the tuareg but over twice the price of the mt. And you can't say the aprilia is reliable or build quality either.
@zeljkodejanovic87867 күн бұрын
Beautiful ride. I only had such an off road once and I said never again for the reason that I am already too old for such a thing. I am 50+ years old and I get tired easily, and I am no longer in the same condition as when I was 30+ years old. I got myasthenia gravis and esophagitis and was screwed for 10 days.
@Nelisjvr3 күн бұрын
@@zeljkodejanovic8786 even for me, I'm 28 and it's still super intense...the day after I'm usually man down and everything hurts! But a lot of fun nevertheless!👌🏻
@zeljkodejanovic87863 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr I really like that Kove 800. It's a shame that it's not available in Bosnia and Herzegovina, I'm 198cm tall, so the seat height of 85+cm would suit me, and it's light for its category.
@NelisjvrКүн бұрын
@@zeljkodejanovic8786 I honestly think it's a dream motorcycle...it's super big, but light as a feather! Maybe try to import one👌🏻
@zeljkodejanovic8786Күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr A motorcycle that costs 10,000 euros to buy + 31% customs and taxes is not worth it to me. Bosnia is not in the EU even though we are physically in Europe. However, maybe next year they will open their representative office. And even if they give me a discount and reduce the price by 31%, there is a lot of bureaucracy in Bosnia, I would even have to go for homologation because it would be a new article in Bosnia. Despite all that, there is no authorized serge in Bosnia, and any service would void my warranty.
@nevillegreg110 күн бұрын
Fantastic ride and views. Would be good if you at least mention the place in the description, the trail might be secret but those mountains are not. In that heat, suggest you would be better off wearing MX style body armour under an MX jersey and MX pants - you will 100% be more comfortable. That adventure gear is too heavy for riding in the heat.
@Nelisjvr10 күн бұрын
@@nevillegreg1 thanks! I mentioned in the description it's in the northern part of Beijing, Hubei province to be more exact. Maybe you missed it! I am wearing MX armour under the jersey 🤣🤣 and my motocross pants don't have enough protection for on road riding....we do some far road riding before we hit the off road sections, the heat is not bad...but it was 38 degrees...even wearing nothing in the middle of the day at that temperature will be too hot!
@richardk10011 күн бұрын
Nelis waar het julle gery?
@Nelisjvr10 күн бұрын
@@richardk100 in die noorde van Beijing, hier is baie mooi klein paaie soos die!
@richardk10010 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr Goed om Afrikaans in 'n vreemde land te hoor.
@kennypoulsen900312 күн бұрын
GS ADV crashbar.....from BMW ? If yes, which model will fit ?
@Nelisjvr12 күн бұрын
@@kennypoulsen9003 no, GSADV is a company that produces aftermarket products, from top boxes to crashbars or exhaust protection, it doesn't have anything to do with BMW
@CLCKC6912 күн бұрын
Hello from NYC, nice job on the wrap. Your motorcycle looks Freat! Nice work on the video. Very informative. Please tide safely. It looks you are near the russia, china border. Where do you live? Nice roads, buildings. Christopher
@Nelisjvr12 күн бұрын
@@CLCKC69 cheers mate, much appreciated! I'm in Beijing actually!
@enricobononi865513 күн бұрын
Did I get it right that you need to keep your phone on to be able to use the mirroring function??!!!!?!
@Nelisjvr13 күн бұрын
@@enricobononi8655 well...that's how mirror works...as I mentioned...if you don't use the integrated maps on the APP, then you need to mirror...which means copy your screen, so obviously if you lock the screen, it will turn black on the bike.
@@user-ez9rw5lm5w 好谢谢谢谢. Beijing have so many beautiful places to ride!
@spencervidal316816 күн бұрын
You guys need to up your tires... Make it a lot easier with bigger tire lugs...
@Nelisjvr16 күн бұрын
@@spencervidal3168 we do a mix of road and off road riding...don't want nobbies, I'll get a dirt bike if I want to ride more enduro style!
@spencervidal316816 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr I have Motoz Tractionator Adventure tires, excellent on road, excellent off road..
@Nelisjvr15 күн бұрын
@@spencervidal3168 I'm currently on the Metzeler Karoo 4...they are great off road and good on road as well...the only problem is they don't last very long, not how I use them!
@spencervidal316815 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr Getting 6 to 8k miles out of the Motoz, depending on throttle control
@Nelisjvr14 күн бұрын
@@spencervidal3168 on the pirelli STR'S I barely get 4000km, super good on road..but not great off road...so far I'm happy with the Karoo 4!
@art258717 күн бұрын
So I see you've had the 800X for about 5 or so months now. Anything stand out to you to mention, anything broken yet or bent, any surprises? Are the bolts, nuts, screws metric, torx or a mixture, seem pretty sturdy and of good quality, not easily marred or stripped? I don't think I've seen you go down in any of your videos. I know on the Tuareg many have complained about the break or clutch peddles easily bending when dropped....Have you performed an oil change or any other maintenance? Can you do videos on those procedures? I did find two dealerships in North Carolina, US that carry Kove's. Reached out to try to get some updates on when it'll be released here. Thanks again for the content. Great to see the bike on terrain I typically ride on and how it looks to work just fine....and your skillset obviously...Great job.
@Nelisjvr16 күн бұрын
@@art2587 cheers mate, much appreciated! I got it in December of last year, now I'm on 11000km, not one single issue...I've dropped it too many times to count...😂 😂 I once dropped it so hard the crash bars bent and my handlebar, gave it a nice kick and it's back to normal...I haven't had one single issue with the bike, not nuts that stripped or anything like that... Nothing shows rust or wear, except for the chain of course...I do think I sometimes push the bike a little too hard off road, but the bike can take it! I've done multiple maintenances, oil and filters...haven't had anything unusual in the filters or oil, usually the oil is still red when changing, the bike also doesn't consume any oil at all. The one thing I didn't like was the stock side stand...it was super high, off road I always dropped the bike because it didn't lean enough. I changed to the lower version and no worries anymore! Next time I do a service I'll make a video of it all 👌🏻
@art258716 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr wonderful news!! That reliability and questioning of material durability always comes up here in the US...even for the Tuareg, mainly due to lack of dealership networks for maintenance and repairs. There is only one dealership in the whole state of NC that supports Tuaregs, which has caused a number of folks I know to avoid them, there are at least two for Kove..which was a surprise. Thanks for sharing the durability testing you've done..LOL even if not on purpose... Looking forward to any maintenance videos you can provide, as I'm a self taught tinkerer that likes to work on my own bike especially with the cost of shop work and I just like to know my motorcycle. Helps when off on a trail somewhere and need to fix something or address an issue. Interesting detail about the side stand, good to know there is option for a lower version (was that aftermarket or via Kove)? I've shared your channel with a few folks that might be of interest and skeptics for anything coming from China...have to show them the fine print of most things they use on a daily bases that were made in that region....Glad to see this company and this bike as an option. Has a mechanic's grade service manual been released? Thanks again. Oh also reached out to Kove on their FB page..seems they'll start taking deposits in the US sometime in August....so we may see them later this year or early 2025...
@Nelisjvr15 күн бұрын
@@art2587 I noticed more Kove dealers are popping up everywhere...that's always a good sign...they won't open if they're not doing something right! I also enjoy doing my own maintenance, fortunately for the first 2 years/20 000km it has a maintenance plan, so I do it at Kove. We came to a conclusion lately that 90% of all production is based in China, no matter if you buy a KTM or a Harley or whatever...the parts are made in China, even if it says something else...it might be assembled somewhere else, but it's not made there! I've seen and have too many products that are made in China that's brilliant to say anything bad, times have changed and some people are just stuck in 1980! Even our fancy iPhone is MIC 👌🏻🤣 and as you can see on ym channel, I'm not treating the bike like a fragile piece of glass, I'm hammering it all the way to the red line...so far...smooth as can be! I'm really happy... The side stand I bought is from the lower spec version of the 800x, it's the one that has the lower/smaller suspension. It's about 3cm shorter than mine, makes a huge difference! Another great page is the US Kove group, Garry Goodwin post some sick videos of the 800x rally!
@mfg608 күн бұрын
@@NelisjvrWhere you bought the lower version of the side stand... is it Original Kove or Aftermarket? I'm from Germany and will be getting a Pro from the first dealer here in the next few weeks. I'm really looking forward to it. You said there are two seat options... I'll probably get the 875 like you. Is the lower 865 seat also original Kove or aftermarket? Or is there a way to adjust the shock absorber or the linkage? I actually only want it to be 1-2 centimeters lower. Thanks for your answer and have fun.
@Nelisjvr3 күн бұрын
@@mfg60 I bought it from Kove, they could probably order you one, the alternative is to just cut yours and reattach the foot! Basically the same thing, just shorter! I bought an aftermarket seat, the stock one is a little hard, it's a rally style seat. I actually bought a 2cm thinker one, much better!
@nkwd00717 күн бұрын
How would you describe/compare bikes performance?
@Nelisjvr17 күн бұрын
@@nkwd007 the Kove of course has the most power/torque and it's the lightest of them all...the weight is the biggest thing you can notice...especially if you want to pass through mud or over obstacles. My friend's tuareg isn't stock, he did some major suspension and ecu upgrades. I think if you compare them all stock, there is no other bike I'd rather have...the 800x is perfect in all aspects, super powerful and great low end torque, I almost ever have to use my clutch when riding off roadq, only when I'm in 2nd gear and doing slow turns. The suspension is also amazing...it literally just floats over rocks like it's nothing...the stock stabilizer on the Kove (none of the other bikes have one stock) also saved me multiple times in the sand...I love the bike...keeps a smile on my face no matter where I ride!
@nkwd00717 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr Great, thank you. This is very valuable for me as I am thinking about changing the Tiger 900 Rally Pro to something lighter and the Kove seem to be perfect option. I just wander how reliable it will be. Also here in the UK, it may take some time until selling and most importantly service network. Have you done many miles on yours already? Any technical issues? Thank you.
@Nelisjvr16 күн бұрын
@@nkwd007 I have 11000km on mine now, not one single issue...I did replace the fish tail to a tail tidy, I broke it off road 2 times...😂 other than that...nothing at all!
@nkwd00716 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr Sounds good to me then. Thank you. I will book a test ride as soon as they become available.
@itsallabouttheridekeepingi444917 күн бұрын
All theses videos on the 800X , MT 450 , 660 are all pretty good footage ( but unless other than that ) would have been good if you had all spoken on the bikes and the good the bad etc
@Nelisjvr17 күн бұрын
@@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 maybe next time I'll make a video on all 3, although we don't really beat test each other's the bikes...it's our own bikes and we just enjoy riding 👌🏻 we are all happy with our motorcycles, my friend on the 450 actually wanted to buy the Kove but he didn't want to spend so much on an adv, he's happy with the 450.
@Motolifechina17 күн бұрын
I will be making one for the 450mt soon
@szh449417 күн бұрын
Beijing license plates? What's this route called? Nice vista point around 11:00 mark edit: must been drunk🙃
@Nelisjvr17 күн бұрын
@@szh4494 yes we are all foreigners in Beijing! It's all exploring around the Big rock area in Hubei province, just 1.5 hours north of Beijing!
@dimxtz67amp2718 күн бұрын
Hard. Kove seems ok for mountain and dirt. Where is this place?
@Nelisjvr17 күн бұрын
@@dimxtz67amp27 it's perfect for that, the weight plays a huge role! This is north of Beijing.
@user-ni6hx5jn2t18 күн бұрын
Как вам Kove 800.?
@Nelisjvr17 күн бұрын
@@user-ni6hx5jn2t great bike, I have nothing to complain about, even after 11000km, still runs smooth!
@user-ni6hx5jn2t17 күн бұрын
@@NelisjvrСпасибо. Привет из России.
@danb649718 күн бұрын
That's the stuff. I still need to build confidence to ride something like that on anything other than a proper dirt bike. Cool
@Nelisjvr17 күн бұрын
@@danb6497 it takes time...it's not easy keeping it up right on these bumps and rocks...even if it's just 185kg...it's a lot of work, especially without nobbies🤣👌🏻
@davmanlop33318 күн бұрын
Cfmoto 450 sounds nice 👌
@IAmYourReflection18 күн бұрын
Best sounding engine of the bunch
@rationalityfirst17 күн бұрын
Sounds even meaner in person. I don't know what magic they worked with that exhaust but you can't tell it's a 450cc engine.
@Nelisjvr17 күн бұрын
@@davmanlop333 sounds very good, like the Kove 800x it doesn't have a breadbox, makes a huge difference!
@Motolifechina17 күн бұрын
@@IAmYourReflectionthank you I like it a lot hahaha
@RichardS-qh8mi10 күн бұрын
Think it’s the best sounding parallel twin by a long way - cf Moto have cooked up some magic ingredients in this one!😂
@lamproskkaras479718 күн бұрын
Cf 450 it's fine and good motor
@johnharvey533818 күн бұрын
The fact they all completed the route say allot about each bike.
@swedbear403518 күн бұрын
Or about the people riding them
@Nelisjvr17 күн бұрын
@@johnharvey5338 totally agree!
@Nelisjvr17 күн бұрын
@@swedbear4035 now this is a comment I like🤣👌🏻
@Motolifechina17 күн бұрын
@@swedbear4035yeah i was a little slow I have only had the mt450 for like 5 days for for this video and the first time taking this bike off road but it surprised me.
@swedbear403517 күн бұрын
@@Motolifechina I meant that getting through is mostly dependant on the rider and not the bike, so compliments to you
@rykielkark18 күн бұрын
How is that 450mt? Can he follow the rest of you?
@Nelisjvr18 күн бұрын
@@rykielkark he does sometimes fall a little behind...but only when we are pushing fast, I think it's a decent bike...just a little heavy for a 450cc
@IAmYourReflection18 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvrhow heavy does it FEEL compared to the kove 800x? Have you rode the 450 mt?
@Nelisjvr17 күн бұрын
@@IAmYourReflection my friend on the tuareg took it for a ride, I tested one as well at the shop. Obviously you cannot compare it to the 800x, it's les than half the power and still heavier... I would say it's a great bike for a beginner off road rider, but it's boring...doesn't excite you when you pull the throttle, my friend on the tuareg had the same conclusion, I guess it's just because we are so used to the higher cc bikes. Suspension is decent, but not as solid as on the Kove and the clearance is lower.
@Motolifechina17 күн бұрын
I was able to keep up most of the time but it was the first time off road on this bike so I was a little slower than usual.
@rykielkark17 күн бұрын
@@Motolifechina Expecting mine in about 3-4 weeks. How is your overall opinion about the bike?
@thodoris379018 күн бұрын
Man,thats a torture.i dont like this type of motorcycling.
@MotoAdvDuo18 күн бұрын
It's called an Adventure with capital A. Asphalt touring is a "bit" different.
@Nelisjvr18 күн бұрын
@@thodoris3790 it's super fun actually...and the bikes can handle it no problem 👌🏻
@thodoris379018 күн бұрын
@@MotoAdvDuo thanks for information dude.i ride 28 years.i have done this with my dt125,kdx 250,ttr600,wr450...now i prefer road touring and some easy dirt."adventure" is a trend nowdays.
@Armandas.Stroppiana.18 күн бұрын
@@thodoris3790it’s enduro with heavy bikes.A trend that’s always been from time the first old harleys
@ramonquerolpla18118 күн бұрын
Guauuuu..buena ruta...
@kotvandal19 күн бұрын
do you know if there will be cruise control?
@Nelisjvr18 күн бұрын
There are 4 models, the road model has ride by wire with cruise control with 19" front. This is an off road oriented ADV
@kotvandal18 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr on the 800x, throttle by cable?
@Nelisjvr18 күн бұрын
@@kotvandal on the 800x Pro yes. As I said there are 4 different models...all different purposes...the 800x Pro is kind of a huge dirt bike
@kotvandal18 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr can you give links to the other 3 models? I'm very interested in this bike
@Nelisjvr18 күн бұрын
@@kotvandal I don't have a link, visit the Kove official website, I'm sure they list them all. Alternatively visit the Facebook Kove 510/800x group
@danb649721 күн бұрын
Yeah, this is lovely. Definitely not for road bikes :)
@Nelisjvr21 күн бұрын
@@danb6497 this is actually a really nice spot!
@RichardS-qh8mi22 күн бұрын
How do you get to the air box and filter if the fuel tank extends over the top of it?
@Nelisjvr21 күн бұрын
@@RichardS-qh8mi the filter is in front of the fuel tank, right behind the handlebars, you just remove the plastic cover (4 bolts) and the filter is fastened with a wingnut...I actually replaced mine yesterday...literally took me 3 minutes!
@RichardS-qh8mi21 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr It seems Kove really thought this design through thoroughly.👍
@Nelisjvr19 күн бұрын
@@RichardS-qh8mi I would agree 100% with that...the bike is really well designed and the actually did what customers want!
@danb649723 күн бұрын
This was rather easy, to be honest, most of it can be ridden on a road bike. Except maybe the rocky road going up closer to the middle of the video, but probably passable too. Would appreciate it if you took it to some serious off-road. Perhaps easy trails or sand/deep water if you're comfortable with that. Also.. Have you ever dropped it? Are those crash bars sturdy enough?
@Nelisjvr22 күн бұрын
Haha I would love to see anyone try this on a road bike🤣 it was so easy that I broke my license plate in 3...😂 you should visit the channel, I have multiple videos all at different locations. Dropped the bike hundreds of times already, it's aftermarket crash bars, totally worth the money!
@danb649721 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr Well, to be fair, I was riding an adv and a friend of mine had a Ducati scrambler with 100% road tires... We did have to push his bike up the hill at one point, but otherwise it fared pretty well
@Nelisjvr21 күн бұрын
@@danb6497 yeah it's all about the terrain...even with my 50/50 tyres I also had some places that was just too slippery and muddy...although I'll never go back to a road bike
@danb649720 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr Well, equip a scrambler with 50/50 tyres and it would be pretty capable as long as you don't jump or ride trails
@Nelisjvr19 күн бұрын
@@danb6497 not the purpose for it though...if you really want to do enduro riding...just stick to a 450 cc... The Kove 450 rally is great for that...of course it's not as powerful...but you have 500km range with the huge fuel tank and it's also super light!
@art258724 күн бұрын
Hello from the US and great videos on this bike. Considering this vs a Tuareg or 790/890. Is cruise control included or an option? Lots of road/highway between me and gravel/dirt. Thanks.
@Nelisjvr23 күн бұрын
Hey thanks!👌🏻 I appreciate it! There are 4 different versions, the 800x standard, 800x touring, 800x Pro and 800x rally. They all have throttle cables except for the touring one. The touring has ride by wire with cruise control, larger fuel tank and a 19" front tyre...the other 3 are more off road orientated without cruise control and 21" front...😂 😂
@art258723 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr thank you very much! Those details aren't clearly highlighted on Kove's site. Looks like only two dealerships in North Carolina, US...luckily one not too far from me. I currently ride a 2018 Suzuki V-Strom 650XT. Ready for something a bit more aggressive with more ground clearance, but still offers reasonable seat height and comfort for the ride to the fun stuff. Thanks again.
@Nelisjvr22 күн бұрын
@@art2587 the 800x Pro might be a good option for you! Especially the 21" if you consider doing more off roading...for me personally I don't have the need for cruise control. In my opinion, the more electronics a bike has...the easier it is to let you down...I've seen too many people struggle off road because "my bike went into a different rider mode by mistake"🤣🤣 I also do some highway riding, but I prefer being in control of the throttle myself, if it doesn't have adaptive cruise control I think it's a little dangerous...there are too many silly drivers these days! 👌🏻 anyway..I hope you can test ride one of these soon!
@art258722 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr thanks again! Cruise Control is definitely something of a personal choice, and can be surely debated. I was first introduced to CC on a 2005 BMW 1200 RT and while not adaptive (keeps me alert and involved), its a lovely option for stretches of highway, when you'd like to rest your throttle hand (i'm not a fan of throttle locks). I'm in IT, so tech thrills me, and recognize nothing is ever released perfect. Suggestion for another video..in depth side by side comparison between those numerous versions of this bike, haven't yet found a good version comparison on KZread..Kove needs to pick up the advertising...
@Nelisjvr21 күн бұрын
@@art2587 totally agree! I would sometimes like CC, but only after a long day off road when in too lazy to keep the throttle open🤣 I will see what I can do, but here...everyone buys either the Pro or the Rally, I haven't even seen any of the other models on the road...seeing as the hike is cheap here...most people just buy the top end one!
@gw2shibarashi67424 күн бұрын
How many kilometres have you on the bike ? I’m curious about reliability and if it has the same camshaft problem like the 790 and the 890
@Nelisjvr24 күн бұрын
Hi, please check the video description for all the info on the engine and millage, currently on 10200km, not one single problem, did a cam inspection and it's shining like a mirror!
@stephanthiel435825 күн бұрын
Hi Nelis, they just launched the 800X in the UK - expecting deliveries in around 3weeks time.. so expecting to see some on the trails this summer still. Do you have any references for aftermarket accessories and parts etc? Groete, 😉
@Nelisjvr24 күн бұрын
Hi mate, that's great news! You'll enjoy it...different kind of animal! You can check my review video on my page in the description I linked all the aftermarket accessories I bought! Also, try the Facebook Kove group, search for uncle Wang, he has an online shop that sells a lot of accessories and great price!
@david.pedro.25 күн бұрын
are you happy with the KOVE? what are some things you don´t like about the KOVE?
@AlessandroMIX5525 күн бұрын
I can tell you, he is too much happy. You know when your friend fall in love for a girl and he spend all day talking about her to you, and you can just listen and listen and listen… this is me when I listen him talking about kove 😅
@david.pedro.25 күн бұрын
@@AlessandroMIX55 love that !! I want to buy one too. Maybe in the end of the year! Thx for the response bro 😁
@Nelisjvr25 күн бұрын
I'm super happy with the bike, it's true what my friend said, I can talk about it all day long, no need to spend thousands more on upgrading suspension or tuning ecu's...the bike is super just as it is from the box. One thing I don't like is the license plate holder...😂 I broke my plate off twice already...now I bought a tail tidy as I see it will continue to happen, other than that...nothing at all!
@HUW-0503914 күн бұрын
@@AlessandroMIX55kove = love? 😂
@RichardS-qh8mi25 күн бұрын
“The Ride of a 1000 Bends” - fantastic ride and road and interesting perspective from your mate on the KTM. Great lines too but when pushing hard sometimes you miss the apexes slightly, the trick is not to panic and hit the brakes or the bike sits up and you’re heading for the railings! - I guess you were using your rear brake a lot? That Kove really has some grunt to keep ahead like that but with a power to weight ratio of 522bhp per ton it should be able to. Nice move putting your left hand down to warn your friend about that extremely sharp right hand corner near the end - I’d ride with you after seeing that.😊👍
@Nelisjvr25 күн бұрын
Thanks, I'm a little worried when going into right handed corners as I cannot see what's around the corner, it's quite common here to find a car standing in the middle of the road. And no, I never use my rear brake, the bike is super light so the rear brake is basically useless on road 🤣 if you look closely at the end warning you'll see some sand which is actually what I showed him...had a friend who fell pretty bad on this exact spot! Cheers mate, thanks for the comment👍🏻
@RichardS-qh8mi25 күн бұрын
Enjoyed that video especially the rain at the end, that was a proper test for it. Just out of interest could you tell me the service intervals please for the oil+filter?
@Nelisjvr25 күн бұрын
Thanks! Yeah the bike did really well in the rain! Every 5000km!
@danb649723 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr How about valve clearance?
@Nelisjvr22 күн бұрын
@@danb6497 if I remember correctly it's at 20 000km, but on the Kove it's not a super big job to do valve clearance inspection
@rykielkark25 күн бұрын
Very nice collection of videos. I have a couple of wuestions for you, I would appreciate the reply. 1) How good is the handling compared to Tuareg? 2) How hood is the feeling compared to the Tuareg? Tuareg is a premium bike in my opinion.
@Nelisjvr25 күн бұрын
Thanks! It depends, if you take the stock tuareg you cannot compare it to the Kove, it lacks power and suspension is not great. My friend did a lot of upgrades on his tuareg, from adriani suspension to an open air box and ecu tune, so his bike is pretty well set up, in my opinion it's a little too expensive for what you get, I'm super glad I bought the Kove, as I was also looking at the tuareg! The handling of the kove is excellent, it comes stock with a stabilizer, which is not stock on the tuareg. The suspension also makes a huge difference.
@rationalityfirst14 күн бұрын
@@Nelisjvr the suspension on the Tuareg is bad because most of the forks are badly assembled from factory, there's a guy on youtube that had his fork serviced and found some shims bent and valves installed wrongly
@Nelisjvr13 күн бұрын
@@rationalityfirst I wouldn't know about that, but the Kove has great suspension!
@OloThe125 күн бұрын
Great video. It's this motorcycle reliable ?
@Nelisjvr25 күн бұрын
10 000km of hard riding and not one single problem!
@starseeddeluxe27 күн бұрын
What are the cruising RPM's at 70mph (110 khm)?? Most of the current parallel twin bikes are geared too low for highway riding.
@Nelisjvr25 күн бұрын
at 110km/h the revs is at 5000rpm in 6th gear
@danetaylor1327 күн бұрын
Hi Nelis, great video, you guys were going for it nicely. It would be great to connect on the local mobile app on this side of the world (it seems I can't even write the name of it without the comment being taken down) I wonder how we can exchange details. Cheers and take care, Dane
@Nelisjvr25 күн бұрын
Hi Dane, send me an email, maybe I can help you out! [email protected]
@mj_aussie_coaster_travels831027 күн бұрын
Does kove have anytning to do with cfmoto?this bike looks very similar to the cfmoto 800mt.
@Nelisjvr25 күн бұрын
Nothing at all, CFmoto is state owned, Kove is a private company. CF produces all KTM's engines, Kove bought the patent for the 790 engine and redesigned it with a different head and cam system, the positioning of parts is also not similar.
@danetaylor923927 күн бұрын
Great vid Nelis!
@Nelisjvr25 күн бұрын
Thank you! More coming soon!
@francoisklopper28 күн бұрын
Waars dit?
@Nelisjvr25 күн бұрын
Hi, this is about 3 hours north of Beijing China. Super special off roading area!
@c.j.basson9416Ай бұрын
Funny thing is, my biggest concern I have for this bike is not the fact that it's Chinese, but that it shares an engine with the KTM 790. I've ridden KTM since forever, and I suppose you can even call me a bit of a fanboy. But unfortunately all the horror stories of premature cam failure on the KTM 790/890 have totally put me off that engine format. Some say the Kove engine is totaly re-designed and different, others say it's the same. Don't know what to believe. If I had the reassurance the head was solid, I'd be very interested in a 800x.
@NelisjvrАй бұрын
The engine is not the same, I did a cam inspection just recently on 10 000km, it looks like new, and as you can see, I'm not very gentle with the bike, I hammer it on road! The cam is actually completely different, it's much longer than the KTM, not even interchangeable! Let's see what the future holds, but for no...I cannot complain!
@AlessandroMIX55Ай бұрын
Maaaan! Kove should pay us for this kind of video😂
@NelisjvrАй бұрын
I agree...they should at least give me one more bike for free!🤣👌🏻
@killacoiler1707Ай бұрын
The sad part is these still aren't available in the USA. I wonder have they done anything with the tuning that is different than how the CF Moto is tuned and then again different from KTM 790? I really like the appearance better than either of the other bikes. It is both handsome and menacing at the same time. 😊
@NelisjvrАй бұрын
I heard from Gary Goodwin on the Facebook page they are getting the emissions approved and it will be available In December! The bike is definitely a lot different from the CF. I took my friend's CF and it feels a lot lazier and of course 80kg heavier🙈 the power curve is also not the same...it takes much longer for the bike to reach peak power, the Kove is very similar to the ktm in power delivery, the only difference I felt was the low end torque on the KTM790 is more noticeable. I agree with you on that...the Kove is really aggressive looking and I really love the looks! Super mean! It definitely turn heads 👌🏻👌🏻especially with the super nice stainless steel exhaust 😍 everyone is jealous of my bike's stock sound! It sounds like its got a mean full system (which it has stock, because it doesn't have a breadbox).
@killacoiler1707Ай бұрын
@@Nelisjvr well it is going to be either this or the 450 Rally for a new all season commuter. I would prefer the 800 so I could go 2-up with the Mrs. But if it is going to take too long for the 800 to get through EPA certification I may just go for the 450 and wait a year or so and just buy a bagger for 2-up stuff. Thanks for getting back with me though I appreciate that. Enjoy!
@NelisjvrАй бұрын
@@killacoiler1707 the 800 is perfect for 2 people, absolutely great to ride with a passenger! Very comfortable as well! Hopefully soon👌🏻
@killacoiler1707Ай бұрын
It did not seem like the Kove was lacking in any way as he was riding the snot out of that KTM and you were still able to keep him at distance without issue.
@NelisjvrАй бұрын
I'm super happy with the bike! You are 100% correct, nothing can stop the Kove...even with the 8nm torque less, the 40kg difference makes up for the power, it's really a pleasure to ride!
@urosgregorecАй бұрын
Which tires were on kove and which on ktm?
@NelisjvrАй бұрын
Exact same tyre, pirelli STR'S
@michaelbmw1931Ай бұрын
What would be better ? Kove800 or voge 900x?
@NelisjvrАй бұрын
Depends on your preference...more tech with 900x, but it's very heavy and the suspension is not as good
@c_i_a_s_t_e_kАй бұрын
WOW! Nice ride! You rode the Kove like on a sport moto💪💪💪
@NelisjvrАй бұрын
Thanks! The bike is super easy to handle in the mountains, easier than my Z900 even!
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What variant are you riding? Pro? Rally? Standard?
@@99SSC 800x Pro
Nice but we are already hearing camshaft issues from this KTM clone engine...
@@Team-fabulous well... It's better to see than hear...I've had it for almost a year now, 13 000km and zero issues, did a cam inspection and was still like factory cams...so my suggestion is not to believe what you hear...a lot of people are trying to bad mouth Kove, because no one can provide a bike of this calibre at the price!
@@Nelisjvr yes I think the Kove is a great looking bike and would consider buying one but what I read on the web about their engines and even on the KTM platform can only influence us..
@@Team-fabulous definitely...the KTM cam issue is a big concern...especially if you pay that amount of money...you don't expect things like that to happen...fortunately for me, the Kove is really well priced, and according to Kove they have changed the critical components to make it better and longer lasting, so far so good!👌🏻
@@Nelisjvr gonna buy me one.....
Nice Bach plate, I cannot find in ALiexpress
@@marcutrillogibert9154 you can buy one on Uncle Wang shop!👌🏻
@@Nelisjvr Many thanks Did you check the capacity of the tank? I ve drive since bike stoped and only 17,8 l go in.
Where does the battery go? The engine looks the same as the KTM one in the CFmoto 800MT, and those Taisko calipers look an awful lot like the Brembo Stylema monoblocks on my Tiger. Lighter and better specced than the Transalp, whose tubed tyres are a deal-breaker for me.
@@kkhalifah1019 the battery is in the front left panel, in front of the fuel tank. Super compact and well designed! Engine is not the same as the KTM. They changed a lot and improved some small things! Ys it's basically the Brembo copy...the pads are even the same!👌🏻
I'm like the tuareg but over twice the price of the mt. And you can't say the aprilia is reliable or build quality either.
Beautiful ride. I only had such an off road once and I said never again for the reason that I am already too old for such a thing. I am 50+ years old and I get tired easily, and I am no longer in the same condition as when I was 30+ years old. I got myasthenia gravis and esophagitis and was screwed for 10 days.
@@zeljkodejanovic8786 even for me, I'm 28 and it's still super intense...the day after I'm usually man down and everything hurts! But a lot of fun nevertheless!👌🏻
@@Nelisjvr I really like that Kove 800. It's a shame that it's not available in Bosnia and Herzegovina, I'm 198cm tall, so the seat height of 85+cm would suit me, and it's light for its category.
@@zeljkodejanovic8786 I honestly think it's a dream motorcycle...it's super big, but light as a feather! Maybe try to import one👌🏻
@@Nelisjvr A motorcycle that costs 10,000 euros to buy + 31% customs and taxes is not worth it to me. Bosnia is not in the EU even though we are physically in Europe. However, maybe next year they will open their representative office. And even if they give me a discount and reduce the price by 31%, there is a lot of bureaucracy in Bosnia, I would even have to go for homologation because it would be a new article in Bosnia. Despite all that, there is no authorized serge in Bosnia, and any service would void my warranty.
Fantastic ride and views. Would be good if you at least mention the place in the description, the trail might be secret but those mountains are not. In that heat, suggest you would be better off wearing MX style body armour under an MX jersey and MX pants - you will 100% be more comfortable. That adventure gear is too heavy for riding in the heat.
@@nevillegreg1 thanks! I mentioned in the description it's in the northern part of Beijing, Hubei province to be more exact. Maybe you missed it! I am wearing MX armour under the jersey 🤣🤣 and my motocross pants don't have enough protection for on road riding....we do some far road riding before we hit the off road sections, the heat is not bad...but it was 38 degrees...even wearing nothing in the middle of the day at that temperature will be too hot!
Nelis waar het julle gery?
@@richardk100 in die noorde van Beijing, hier is baie mooi klein paaie soos die!
@@Nelisjvr Goed om Afrikaans in 'n vreemde land te hoor.
GS ADV crashbar.....from BMW ? If yes, which model will fit ?
@@kennypoulsen9003 no, GSADV is a company that produces aftermarket products, from top boxes to crashbars or exhaust protection, it doesn't have anything to do with BMW
Hello from NYC, nice job on the wrap. Your motorcycle looks Freat! Nice work on the video. Very informative. Please tide safely. It looks you are near the russia, china border. Where do you live? Nice roads, buildings. Christopher
@@CLCKC69 cheers mate, much appreciated! I'm in Beijing actually!
Did I get it right that you need to keep your phone on to be able to use the mirroring function??!!!!?!
@@enricobononi8655 well...that's how mirror works...as I mentioned...if you don't use the integrated maps on the APP, then you need to mirror...which means copy your screen, so obviously if you lock the screen, it will turn black on the bike.
哦天呐😱，我竟然看到了京B。 风景很漂亮。一群人骑摩托总是很好的，可以互相有个照应。做好防护，注意安全。祝你玩的愉快。
@@user-ez9rw5lm5w 好谢谢谢谢. Beijing have so many beautiful places to ride!
You guys need to up your tires... Make it a lot easier with bigger tire lugs...
@@spencervidal3168 we do a mix of road and off road riding...don't want nobbies, I'll get a dirt bike if I want to ride more enduro style!
@@Nelisjvr I have Motoz Tractionator Adventure tires, excellent on road, excellent off road..
@@spencervidal3168 I'm currently on the Metzeler Karoo 4...they are great off road and good on road as well...the only problem is they don't last very long, not how I use them!
@@Nelisjvr Getting 6 to 8k miles out of the Motoz, depending on throttle control
@@spencervidal3168 on the pirelli STR'S I barely get 4000km, super good on road..but not great off road...so far I'm happy with the Karoo 4!
So I see you've had the 800X for about 5 or so months now. Anything stand out to you to mention, anything broken yet or bent, any surprises? Are the bolts, nuts, screws metric, torx or a mixture, seem pretty sturdy and of good quality, not easily marred or stripped? I don't think I've seen you go down in any of your videos. I know on the Tuareg many have complained about the break or clutch peddles easily bending when dropped....Have you performed an oil change or any other maintenance? Can you do videos on those procedures? I did find two dealerships in North Carolina, US that carry Kove's. Reached out to try to get some updates on when it'll be released here. Thanks again for the content. Great to see the bike on terrain I typically ride on and how it looks to work just fine....and your skillset obviously...Great job.
@@art2587 cheers mate, much appreciated! I got it in December of last year, now I'm on 11000km, not one single issue...I've dropped it too many times to count...😂 😂 I once dropped it so hard the crash bars bent and my handlebar, gave it a nice kick and it's back to normal...I haven't had one single issue with the bike, not nuts that stripped or anything like that... Nothing shows rust or wear, except for the chain of course...I do think I sometimes push the bike a little too hard off road, but the bike can take it! I've done multiple maintenances, oil and filters...haven't had anything unusual in the filters or oil, usually the oil is still red when changing, the bike also doesn't consume any oil at all. The one thing I didn't like was the stock side stand...it was super high, off road I always dropped the bike because it didn't lean enough. I changed to the lower version and no worries anymore! Next time I do a service I'll make a video of it all 👌🏻
@@Nelisjvr wonderful news!! That reliability and questioning of material durability always comes up here in the US...even for the Tuareg, mainly due to lack of dealership networks for maintenance and repairs. There is only one dealership in the whole state of NC that supports Tuaregs, which has caused a number of folks I know to avoid them, there are at least two for Kove..which was a surprise. Thanks for sharing the durability testing you've done..LOL even if not on purpose... Looking forward to any maintenance videos you can provide, as I'm a self taught tinkerer that likes to work on my own bike especially with the cost of shop work and I just like to know my motorcycle. Helps when off on a trail somewhere and need to fix something or address an issue. Interesting detail about the side stand, good to know there is option for a lower version (was that aftermarket or via Kove)? I've shared your channel with a few folks that might be of interest and skeptics for anything coming from China...have to show them the fine print of most things they use on a daily bases that were made in that region....Glad to see this company and this bike as an option. Has a mechanic's grade service manual been released? Thanks again. Oh also reached out to Kove on their FB page..seems they'll start taking deposits in the US sometime in August....so we may see them later this year or early 2025...
@@art2587 I noticed more Kove dealers are popping up everywhere...that's always a good sign...they won't open if they're not doing something right! I also enjoy doing my own maintenance, fortunately for the first 2 years/20 000km it has a maintenance plan, so I do it at Kove. We came to a conclusion lately that 90% of all production is based in China, no matter if you buy a KTM or a Harley or whatever...the parts are made in China, even if it says something else...it might be assembled somewhere else, but it's not made there! I've seen and have too many products that are made in China that's brilliant to say anything bad, times have changed and some people are just stuck in 1980! Even our fancy iPhone is MIC 👌🏻🤣 and as you can see on ym channel, I'm not treating the bike like a fragile piece of glass, I'm hammering it all the way to the red line...so far...smooth as can be! I'm really happy... The side stand I bought is from the lower spec version of the 800x, it's the one that has the lower/smaller suspension. It's about 3cm shorter than mine, makes a huge difference! Another great page is the US Kove group, Garry Goodwin post some sick videos of the 800x rally!
@@NelisjvrWhere you bought the lower version of the side stand... is it Original Kove or Aftermarket? I'm from Germany and will be getting a Pro from the first dealer here in the next few weeks. I'm really looking forward to it. You said there are two seat options... I'll probably get the 875 like you. Is the lower 865 seat also original Kove or aftermarket? Or is there a way to adjust the shock absorber or the linkage? I actually only want it to be 1-2 centimeters lower. Thanks for your answer and have fun.
@@mfg60 I bought it from Kove, they could probably order you one, the alternative is to just cut yours and reattach the foot! Basically the same thing, just shorter! I bought an aftermarket seat, the stock one is a little hard, it's a rally style seat. I actually bought a 2cm thinker one, much better!
How would you describe/compare bikes performance?
@@nkwd007 the Kove of course has the most power/torque and it's the lightest of them all...the weight is the biggest thing you can notice...especially if you want to pass through mud or over obstacles. My friend's tuareg isn't stock, he did some major suspension and ecu upgrades. I think if you compare them all stock, there is no other bike I'd rather have...the 800x is perfect in all aspects, super powerful and great low end torque, I almost ever have to use my clutch when riding off roadq, only when I'm in 2nd gear and doing slow turns. The suspension is also amazing...it literally just floats over rocks like it's nothing...the stock stabilizer on the Kove (none of the other bikes have one stock) also saved me multiple times in the sand...I love the bike...keeps a smile on my face no matter where I ride!
@@Nelisjvr Great, thank you. This is very valuable for me as I am thinking about changing the Tiger 900 Rally Pro to something lighter and the Kove seem to be perfect option. I just wander how reliable it will be. Also here in the UK, it may take some time until selling and most importantly service network. Have you done many miles on yours already? Any technical issues? Thank you.
@@nkwd007 I have 11000km on mine now, not one single issue...I did replace the fish tail to a tail tidy, I broke it off road 2 times...😂 other than that...nothing at all!
@@Nelisjvr Sounds good to me then. Thank you. I will book a test ride as soon as they become available.
All theses videos on the 800X , MT 450 , 660 are all pretty good footage ( but unless other than that ) would have been good if you had all spoken on the bikes and the good the bad etc
@@itsallabouttheridekeepingi4449 maybe next time I'll make a video on all 3, although we don't really beat test each other's the bikes...it's our own bikes and we just enjoy riding 👌🏻 we are all happy with our motorcycles, my friend on the 450 actually wanted to buy the Kove but he didn't want to spend so much on an adv, he's happy with the 450.
I will be making one for the 450mt soon
Beijing license plates? What's this route called? Nice vista point around 11:00 mark edit: must been drunk🙃
@@szh4494 yes we are all foreigners in Beijing! It's all exploring around the Big rock area in Hubei province, just 1.5 hours north of Beijing!
Hard. Kove seems ok for mountain and dirt. Where is this place?
@@dimxtz67amp27 it's perfect for that, the weight plays a huge role! This is north of Beijing.
Как вам Kove 800.?
@@user-ni6hx5jn2t great bike, I have nothing to complain about, even after 11000km, still runs smooth!
@@NelisjvrСпасибо. Привет из России.
That's the stuff. I still need to build confidence to ride something like that on anything other than a proper dirt bike. Cool
@@danb6497 it takes time...it's not easy keeping it up right on these bumps and rocks...even if it's just 185kg...it's a lot of work, especially without nobbies🤣👌🏻
Cfmoto 450 sounds nice 👌
Best sounding engine of the bunch
Sounds even meaner in person. I don't know what magic they worked with that exhaust but you can't tell it's a 450cc engine.
@@davmanlop333 sounds very good, like the Kove 800x it doesn't have a breadbox, makes a huge difference!
@@IAmYourReflectionthank you I like it a lot hahaha
Think it’s the best sounding parallel twin by a long way - cf Moto have cooked up some magic ingredients in this one!😂
Cf 450 it's fine and good motor
The fact they all completed the route say allot about each bike.
Or about the people riding them
@@johnharvey5338 totally agree!
@@swedbear4035 now this is a comment I like🤣👌🏻
@@swedbear4035yeah i was a little slow I have only had the mt450 for like 5 days for for this video and the first time taking this bike off road but it surprised me.
@@Motolifechina I meant that getting through is mostly dependant on the rider and not the bike, so compliments to you
How is that 450mt? Can he follow the rest of you?
@@rykielkark he does sometimes fall a little behind...but only when we are pushing fast, I think it's a decent bike...just a little heavy for a 450cc
@@Nelisjvrhow heavy does it FEEL compared to the kove 800x? Have you rode the 450 mt?
@@IAmYourReflection my friend on the tuareg took it for a ride, I tested one as well at the shop. Obviously you cannot compare it to the 800x, it's les than half the power and still heavier... I would say it's a great bike for a beginner off road rider, but it's boring...doesn't excite you when you pull the throttle, my friend on the tuareg had the same conclusion, I guess it's just because we are so used to the higher cc bikes. Suspension is decent, but not as solid as on the Kove and the clearance is lower.
I was able to keep up most of the time but it was the first time off road on this bike so I was a little slower than usual.
@@Motolifechina Expecting mine in about 3-4 weeks. How is your overall opinion about the bike?
Man,thats a torture.i dont like this type of motorcycling.
It's called an Adventure with capital A. Asphalt touring is a "bit" different.
@@thodoris3790 it's super fun actually...and the bikes can handle it no problem 👌🏻
@@MotoAdvDuo thanks for information dude.i ride 28 years.i have done this with my dt125,kdx 250,ttr600,wr450...now i prefer road touring and some easy dirt."adventure" is a trend nowdays.
@@thodoris3790it’s enduro with heavy bikes.A trend that’s always been from time the first old harleys
Guauuuu..buena ruta...
do you know if there will be cruise control?
There are 4 models, the road model has ride by wire with cruise control with 19" front. This is an off road oriented ADV
@@Nelisjvr on the 800x, throttle by cable?
@@kotvandal on the 800x Pro yes. As I said there are 4 different models...all different purposes...the 800x Pro is kind of a huge dirt bike
@@Nelisjvr can you give links to the other 3 models? I'm very interested in this bike
@@kotvandal I don't have a link, visit the Kove official website, I'm sure they list them all. Alternatively visit the Facebook Kove 510/800x group
Yeah, this is lovely. Definitely not for road bikes :)
@@danb6497 this is actually a really nice spot!
How do you get to the air box and filter if the fuel tank extends over the top of it?
@@RichardS-qh8mi the filter is in front of the fuel tank, right behind the handlebars, you just remove the plastic cover (4 bolts) and the filter is fastened with a wingnut...I actually replaced mine yesterday...literally took me 3 minutes!
@@Nelisjvr It seems Kove really thought this design through thoroughly.👍
@@RichardS-qh8mi I would agree 100% with that...the bike is really well designed and the actually did what customers want!
This was rather easy, to be honest, most of it can be ridden on a road bike. Except maybe the rocky road going up closer to the middle of the video, but probably passable too. Would appreciate it if you took it to some serious off-road. Perhaps easy trails or sand/deep water if you're comfortable with that. Also.. Have you ever dropped it? Are those crash bars sturdy enough?
Haha I would love to see anyone try this on a road bike🤣 it was so easy that I broke my license plate in 3...😂 you should visit the channel, I have multiple videos all at different locations. Dropped the bike hundreds of times already, it's aftermarket crash bars, totally worth the money!
@@Nelisjvr Well, to be fair, I was riding an adv and a friend of mine had a Ducati scrambler with 100% road tires... We did have to push his bike up the hill at one point, but otherwise it fared pretty well
@@danb6497 yeah it's all about the terrain...even with my 50/50 tyres I also had some places that was just too slippery and muddy...although I'll never go back to a road bike
@@Nelisjvr Well, equip a scrambler with 50/50 tyres and it would be pretty capable as long as you don't jump or ride trails
@@danb6497 not the purpose for it though...if you really want to do enduro riding...just stick to a 450 cc... The Kove 450 rally is great for that...of course it's not as powerful...but you have 500km range with the huge fuel tank and it's also super light!
Hello from the US and great videos on this bike. Considering this vs a Tuareg or 790/890. Is cruise control included or an option? Lots of road/highway between me and gravel/dirt. Thanks.
Hey thanks!👌🏻 I appreciate it! There are 4 different versions, the 800x standard, 800x touring, 800x Pro and 800x rally. They all have throttle cables except for the touring one. The touring has ride by wire with cruise control, larger fuel tank and a 19" front tyre...the other 3 are more off road orientated without cruise control and 21" front...😂 😂
@@Nelisjvr thank you very much! Those details aren't clearly highlighted on Kove's site. Looks like only two dealerships in North Carolina, US...luckily one not too far from me. I currently ride a 2018 Suzuki V-Strom 650XT. Ready for something a bit more aggressive with more ground clearance, but still offers reasonable seat height and comfort for the ride to the fun stuff. Thanks again.
@@art2587 the 800x Pro might be a good option for you! Especially the 21" if you consider doing more off roading...for me personally I don't have the need for cruise control. In my opinion, the more electronics a bike has...the easier it is to let you down...I've seen too many people struggle off road because "my bike went into a different rider mode by mistake"🤣🤣 I also do some highway riding, but I prefer being in control of the throttle myself, if it doesn't have adaptive cruise control I think it's a little dangerous...there are too many silly drivers these days! 👌🏻 anyway..I hope you can test ride one of these soon!
@@Nelisjvr thanks again! Cruise Control is definitely something of a personal choice, and can be surely debated. I was first introduced to CC on a 2005 BMW 1200 RT and while not adaptive (keeps me alert and involved), its a lovely option for stretches of highway, when you'd like to rest your throttle hand (i'm not a fan of throttle locks). I'm in IT, so tech thrills me, and recognize nothing is ever released perfect. Suggestion for another video..in depth side by side comparison between those numerous versions of this bike, haven't yet found a good version comparison on KZread..Kove needs to pick up the advertising...
@@art2587 totally agree! I would sometimes like CC, but only after a long day off road when in too lazy to keep the throttle open🤣 I will see what I can do, but here...everyone buys either the Pro or the Rally, I haven't even seen any of the other models on the road...seeing as the hike is cheap here...most people just buy the top end one!
How many kilometres have you on the bike ? I’m curious about reliability and if it has the same camshaft problem like the 790 and the 890
Hi, please check the video description for all the info on the engine and millage, currently on 10200km, not one single problem, did a cam inspection and it's shining like a mirror!
Hi Nelis, they just launched the 800X in the UK - expecting deliveries in around 3weeks time.. so expecting to see some on the trails this summer still. Do you have any references for aftermarket accessories and parts etc? Groete, 😉
Hi mate, that's great news! You'll enjoy it...different kind of animal! You can check my review video on my page in the description I linked all the aftermarket accessories I bought! Also, try the Facebook Kove group, search for uncle Wang, he has an online shop that sells a lot of accessories and great price!
are you happy with the KOVE? what are some things you don´t like about the KOVE?
I can tell you, he is too much happy. You know when your friend fall in love for a girl and he spend all day talking about her to you, and you can just listen and listen and listen… this is me when I listen him talking about kove 😅
@@AlessandroMIX55 love that !! I want to buy one too. Maybe in the end of the year! Thx for the response bro 😁
I'm super happy with the bike, it's true what my friend said, I can talk about it all day long, no need to spend thousands more on upgrading suspension or tuning ecu's...the bike is super just as it is from the box. One thing I don't like is the license plate holder...😂 I broke my plate off twice already...now I bought a tail tidy as I see it will continue to happen, other than that...nothing at all!
@@AlessandroMIX55kove = love? 😂
“The Ride of a 1000 Bends” - fantastic ride and road and interesting perspective from your mate on the KTM. Great lines too but when pushing hard sometimes you miss the apexes slightly, the trick is not to panic and hit the brakes or the bike sits up and you’re heading for the railings! - I guess you were using your rear brake a lot? That Kove really has some grunt to keep ahead like that but with a power to weight ratio of 522bhp per ton it should be able to. Nice move putting your left hand down to warn your friend about that extremely sharp right hand corner near the end - I’d ride with you after seeing that.😊👍
Thanks, I'm a little worried when going into right handed corners as I cannot see what's around the corner, it's quite common here to find a car standing in the middle of the road. And no, I never use my rear brake, the bike is super light so the rear brake is basically useless on road 🤣 if you look closely at the end warning you'll see some sand which is actually what I showed him...had a friend who fell pretty bad on this exact spot! Cheers mate, thanks for the comment👍🏻
Enjoyed that video especially the rain at the end, that was a proper test for it. Just out of interest could you tell me the service intervals please for the oil+filter?
Thanks! Yeah the bike did really well in the rain! Every 5000km!
@@Nelisjvr How about valve clearance?
@@danb6497 if I remember correctly it's at 20 000km, but on the Kove it's not a super big job to do valve clearance inspection
Very nice collection of videos. I have a couple of wuestions for you, I would appreciate the reply. 1) How good is the handling compared to Tuareg? 2) How hood is the feeling compared to the Tuareg? Tuareg is a premium bike in my opinion.
Thanks! It depends, if you take the stock tuareg you cannot compare it to the Kove, it lacks power and suspension is not great. My friend did a lot of upgrades on his tuareg, from adriani suspension to an open air box and ecu tune, so his bike is pretty well set up, in my opinion it's a little too expensive for what you get, I'm super glad I bought the Kove, as I was also looking at the tuareg! The handling of the kove is excellent, it comes stock with a stabilizer, which is not stock on the tuareg. The suspension also makes a huge difference.
@@Nelisjvr the suspension on the Tuareg is bad because most of the forks are badly assembled from factory, there's a guy on youtube that had his fork serviced and found some shims bent and valves installed wrongly
@@rationalityfirst I wouldn't know about that, but the Kove has great suspension!
Great video. It's this motorcycle reliable ?
10 000km of hard riding and not one single problem!
What are the cruising RPM's at 70mph (110 khm)?? Most of the current parallel twin bikes are geared too low for highway riding.
at 110km/h the revs is at 5000rpm in 6th gear
Hi Nelis, great video, you guys were going for it nicely. It would be great to connect on the local mobile app on this side of the world (it seems I can't even write the name of it without the comment being taken down) I wonder how we can exchange details. Cheers and take care, Dane
Hi Dane, send me an email, maybe I can help you out! [email protected]
Does kove have anytning to do with cfmoto?this bike looks very similar to the cfmoto 800mt.
Nothing at all, CFmoto is state owned, Kove is a private company. CF produces all KTM's engines, Kove bought the patent for the 790 engine and redesigned it with a different head and cam system, the positioning of parts is also not similar.
Great vid Nelis!
Thank you! More coming soon!
Waars dit?
Hi, this is about 3 hours north of Beijing China. Super special off roading area!
Funny thing is, my biggest concern I have for this bike is not the fact that it's Chinese, but that it shares an engine with the KTM 790. I've ridden KTM since forever, and I suppose you can even call me a bit of a fanboy. But unfortunately all the horror stories of premature cam failure on the KTM 790/890 have totally put me off that engine format. Some say the Kove engine is totaly re-designed and different, others say it's the same. Don't know what to believe. If I had the reassurance the head was solid, I'd be very interested in a 800x.
The engine is not the same, I did a cam inspection just recently on 10 000km, it looks like new, and as you can see, I'm not very gentle with the bike, I hammer it on road! The cam is actually completely different, it's much longer than the KTM, not even interchangeable! Let's see what the future holds, but for no...I cannot complain!
Maaaan! Kove should pay us for this kind of video😂
I agree...they should at least give me one more bike for free!🤣👌🏻
The sad part is these still aren't available in the USA. I wonder have they done anything with the tuning that is different than how the CF Moto is tuned and then again different from KTM 790? I really like the appearance better than either of the other bikes. It is both handsome and menacing at the same time. 😊
I heard from Gary Goodwin on the Facebook page they are getting the emissions approved and it will be available In December! The bike is definitely a lot different from the CF. I took my friend's CF and it feels a lot lazier and of course 80kg heavier🙈 the power curve is also not the same...it takes much longer for the bike to reach peak power, the Kove is very similar to the ktm in power delivery, the only difference I felt was the low end torque on the KTM790 is more noticeable. I agree with you on that...the Kove is really aggressive looking and I really love the looks! Super mean! It definitely turn heads 👌🏻👌🏻especially with the super nice stainless steel exhaust 😍 everyone is jealous of my bike's stock sound! It sounds like its got a mean full system (which it has stock, because it doesn't have a breadbox).
@@Nelisjvr well it is going to be either this or the 450 Rally for a new all season commuter. I would prefer the 800 so I could go 2-up with the Mrs. But if it is going to take too long for the 800 to get through EPA certification I may just go for the 450 and wait a year or so and just buy a bagger for 2-up stuff. Thanks for getting back with me though I appreciate that. Enjoy!
@@killacoiler1707 the 800 is perfect for 2 people, absolutely great to ride with a passenger! Very comfortable as well! Hopefully soon👌🏻
It did not seem like the Kove was lacking in any way as he was riding the snot out of that KTM and you were still able to keep him at distance without issue.
I'm super happy with the bike! You are 100% correct, nothing can stop the Kove...even with the 8nm torque less, the 40kg difference makes up for the power, it's really a pleasure to ride!
Which tires were on kove and which on ktm?
Exact same tyre, pirelli STR'S
What would be better ? Kove800 or voge 900x?
Depends on your preference...more tech with 900x, but it's very heavy and the suspension is not as good
WOW! Nice ride! You rode the Kove like on a sport moto💪💪💪
Thanks! The bike is super easy to handle in the mountains, easier than my Z900 even!