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  @gregjorda30804 сағат бұрын

  The original composition was a slightly different recipe...modern times we make pattern welded steel and call it damascus...the steel is entirely different

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  @scheroxon75895 сағат бұрын

  How much is the thickness of the nickel in numbers? 😂

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  @IanZ_Forge4 сағат бұрын

  @@scheroxon7589 Alas, I realized after I uploaded that I should’ve included MM for reference 😂 So it’s roughly 1.8mm-2mm, it’s something I eyeball most of the time but I hope that helps, God bless - Ian

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  @Peter..Griffin8 сағат бұрын

  The decision to call it Damascus steel is shallow and pedantic.

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  @IanZ_Forge10 сағат бұрын

  Thanks for checking out the video! I wanted to add that Modern Damascus is of much higher quality than that of historical, thanks to the quality of steel we can produce today. While they folded to purify the steel, modern bladesmiths will fold only to add artistic value but the steel remains much higher quality! You can especially see this with Katana builds as well, as original Tatara Steel is less than satisfactory when compared to modern steel in cutting and edge retention ability! I hope this clears things up; YT shorts only allows for 60 seconds currently so I have to cram as much info as I can in there! God bless - Ian

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  @ShionWinkler8 сағат бұрын

  @@IanZ_Forge Yes, modern steels would be seen as magical back then. Modern metals period, it's purity alone is something they could never obtain, we won't even get into modern alloys, we want steel with 1% carbon and 2% nickel... that is exactly what we get. You should check out the steels used in ships, they remain ductile even in extreme cold conditions.

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  @jewishchristian430816 сағат бұрын

  Naw, if Damascus steel is already defined as something else, then the industry term should be "layered steel" since the term "Damascus steel" refers to such a higher value type of metal

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  @IanZ_Forge9 сағат бұрын

  This is something I’ve felt should be true at times; something that is relevant is a lot of bladesmiths will refer to certain types of damascus/pattern-welded blades under their pattern name; I.e. if I make a Mosaic Damascus blade, I usually call it a Mosaic blade. If I make a feather Damascus blade, it’s a Feather blade. That may just be a me thing or a silly nuisance but then it doesn’t cause as much aggravation. God bless - Ian

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  @wyatts781316 сағат бұрын

  high level modern Damascus steal has one benefit of micro serrations giving it a better cutting edge

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  @IanZ_Forge9 сағат бұрын

  The cool thing about Modern Damascus is that the steel quality far out performs that of traditional steel! As I had said it’s created purely for artistic expression rather than offering any increased performance! God bless - Ian

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  @m8s4lif16 сағат бұрын

  It may not be real Damascus steel, but a lot of those blades sure look cool.

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  @noahnicholes862616 сағат бұрын

  Wootz steel is the term for the original stuff, it's a lot of work for a little bit better, allegedly. Historically I really enjoyed watching them successfully recreate it

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  @ghost8_0916 сағат бұрын

  Am I the only one who think he sounds like Mark Rober

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  @nimblehuman16 сағат бұрын

  Modern pattern welded steel is "damascened", not "Damascus", IIRC. Similar look but as you pointed out, very different products.

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  @TravelatorH8r16 сағат бұрын

  Are you in Damascus? Exactly

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  @ScythesBlade16 сағат бұрын

  If it isn't forged in the Damascus region of Syria, it's just woobly metal

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  @lindenduffourc204416 сағат бұрын

  I think this isn't Damascus. 🖕 pop culture.

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  @nathantrieu495716 сағат бұрын

  for anyone curious on OG damascus, check out knifesteelnerd's article on wootz. Basically, the og "damascus" was carbide banding

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  @darkshadow692016 сағат бұрын

  It's been a while since I read up on it but If i remember correctly "og Damascus steel" had something to do with the iron source and that it had an uneven carbon distribution that would show over the forging process. Kinda like the process of making a layered demascus, but the layering happened while the raw iron formed. That being said, I haven't read up on it lately, so I could be any amount of wrong. 😊

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  @IanZ_Forge9 сағат бұрын

  Hey I really appreciate the comment and discussion! I wanted to add to this though and say that the difference in visual appearance doesn’t happen due to the carbon content but more so what else is in the steel. In modern times we use a high carbon steel plus another high carbon steel with some higher nickel content in order to create the visual differentiation. To your point though, from the little experience I have with wootz, tamahagne steel, and the ufbrght swords (I’m sure I’m spelling that wrong) You never get even carbon distribution with a raw or casted bloom/puck. All that being said is why they had to fold, in order to consolidate and work the impurities out along with evening out as best they could the carbon distribution. If anyone has something to add or negate this, I’d appreciate hearing it! I wanted to post this video to house a healthy forum that would hopefully educate those reading. God bless - Ian

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  @ShionWinkler17 сағат бұрын

  True damascus steel is made by a casting process utilizing very high carbon steel. The material is held at or near the temperature of fusion for an extended period of time. This causes the formation of large, high carbon dendrite crystals in a matrix of approximately eutectoid steel. This is not pattern welding, and modern blacksmiths using the term incorrectly will never change that.

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  @NMForge21 сағат бұрын

  I want one of those little torches!

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  @wontnotawill13562 күн бұрын

  Or you could just use water super-saturated with borax in a sauce pan. You just dip the peice into the water between each heat, that way it fully permiates with minimal borax inclusion.

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  @Ronan16922 күн бұрын

  I love it. It's the simplicity of it and that was your first try. Wow I'm impressed. Thanks for sharing.

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  @IanZ_Forge2 күн бұрын

  Thank you! Thanks for checking it out 🙂 God bless - Ian

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  @Joe___R2 күн бұрын

  The handle is way too thick. If scaled up into a full sized sword, the handle would be about the diameter of the fat end of a baseball bat.

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  @IanZ_Forge2 күн бұрын

  I agree, whenever I had finished; the objective had been to create a proportional sword that would feel right, alas this one as you stated falls short on the handle

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  @austinvanfleet3849Күн бұрын

  @@IanZ_Forge I run into this same problem all the time, with tiny swords (I make them out of aluminum, as accessories for armored stuffed animals - not sharp at all, but more child friendly!). To solve that, I usually forego the wood bit altogether - if I need a shell like that, I'll use thin brass sheet to form around the tang, or else just grind the tang round, and go straight onto that. Priming and painting after that works, but I usually skive a piece of leather down to as thin as I can get it (between 0.25 and 0.5 millimeters, usually) and glue it around the rounded tang. Tiny scabbards have the exact same issue - to get proportions right, you eliminate any and all rigidity by going that thin on wood. My go-to is 0.5mm brass sheet, and square wire to form around the shape of the blade, and then grind it back to get the scale right. Finicky, but it works really well in the end. I'll usually either prime and paint on to that, or do the same thing with the leather skiving as before, then wrap/glue/stitch it on, and hide the ends in the chape and locket. Proportionality is really hard at this scale - that's for sure!! Edit: specified that I was talking about wood for scabbards. :)

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  @pscasual43482 күн бұрын

  Forbidden cheese

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  @ZayDay672 күн бұрын

  Why did I want to bite that…

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  @IanZ_Forge2 күн бұрын

  I can relate to that thought 😂

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  @NMForge2 күн бұрын

  I recently made one very similar, I made a longer video of it tho.

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  @IanZ_Forge2 күн бұрын

  Dude that was awesome! I just watched it! I’m impressed you forged the bevels in! I was worried about trying to forge them in on this scale would end up just ruining the blade so I opted for filing them in completely. Check out the full, longer video linked on this one or on my channel for the entire process of mine if you want; thanks for sharing yours, I really enjoyed seeing it! 🤠🙏⚒️ God bless - Ian

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  @NMForge2 күн бұрын

  @@IanZ_Forge thanks man! I didn't realize you made a fuller video on your sword I need to go check it out, you got some high quality videos! I need to buy me a new camera, I'm using my Google 7 💩💩💩 phone for recording videos.

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  @IanZ_Forge2 күн бұрын

  @@NMForge Thanks man! I appreciate that! 🤠 and Cameras are great! If I’m being honest I use my phone for a lot of my shorts content and then a LUMIX camera for the longer videos; I use to use a DJI Osmo pocket for everything haha! God bless - Ian

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  @chang.stanley2 күн бұрын

  What happens to the air trapped inside?

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  @IanZ_Forge2 күн бұрын

  I really appreciate you asking this; So I feel as though I assumed too much with this video. The fundamental idea of forge welding steel like this is that you have 1. Clean/ground, oil-free steel. 2. You have no gaps/a virtually perfect stack. And 3. You are folding multiple times by forgewelding, letting the billet cool down and cleaning/properly prepping the layers again before you repeat the fold. The air trapped inside isn’t enough to cause serious oxidation because ideally, the gaps are non-existent. That’s easier said than done, granted, but that’s what I had in mind with this! Then whenever you weld all of the seams or create a canister, you don’t have to use flux which causes damage to the lining of your forge as well as muddys up the steel to a degree and after forging is done, you just grind off the excess welds until you have clean steel. That’s the best method you can do in order to have clean steel, this is something Kyle Royer shows on almost all of his larger billets as you can’t afford to risk ruining that much steel because of not wanting to take the extra steps. If anyone has any other input I would enjoy hearing it; I know others have mentioned dipping the billet in quench oil or kerosene will also prevent air from reaching the surfaces. I hope that helps, and thanks for checking out the video! God bless - Ian 🙂

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  @Bitter-Wounds2 күн бұрын

  The fact is Damascus

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  @GoldGune3 күн бұрын

  Looks inside forge weld: Finds MiG welds:

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  @DreadEnder3 күн бұрын

  Have you tried heating under a vacuum? You can use an electric carbon heater which will get plenty hot enough, and the lack of pressure lowers the metals melting point and could allow for cold welding. If you instead used dry ice.

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  @iangoodall8493 күн бұрын

  It's pattern welded steel not damascus

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  @CorruptedSpider3 күн бұрын

  I just wanted to say, I hope everyone knows that, but the actual damascus steel recipe was lost to time. This is a look alike, pattern welded steel specifically. The original is definitely ultra-high carbon crucible steel, though the exact technique is still a mystery. Still, the knife is cool, and Damascus sounds cool. P.S: I just used to think damascus steel was pattern welded steel, and that's why I made this comment.

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  @mattresbert3 күн бұрын

  Sounds ligtti ❤

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  @trevormzimmerman4 күн бұрын

  Editing and cinematography is on point. This was an easy watch!

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  @IanZ_Forge4 күн бұрын

  Thank you so much Trevor! 🤠🙏❤️

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  @jamesmurray59344 күн бұрын

  Borax is not bad

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  @dmaxm24985 күн бұрын

  I thought real Damascus is one piece of steel folded many times instead of welding multiple pieces together

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  @axrief5 күн бұрын

  I thought it was for softening the metal, just like flux in soldering

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  @erickillough64765 күн бұрын

  Did you start with a file? Like as the stock?

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  @IanZ_Forge5 күн бұрын

  Hey yes I did! This was a large one, I actually ran into some issues with it but that’ll be on the long-form video of this project coming up in the next few days! 🤠 God bless - Ian

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  @thegamingturtle835 күн бұрын

  the alloy of the steel determines how it needs to be quenched, depending on the allow the temperature you need and the quenching liquid may need to change. This can make it difficult when working with scrap metal but it can make a world of difference

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  @michaelrobinson25135 күн бұрын

  Did you get your voice from El cowboy?

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  @billyyank58075 күн бұрын

  Fancy pattern welding oooooohh 😂

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  @TheBANDEMIC5 күн бұрын

  Now tell me why people sprinkle crushed chili peppers onto their billets lol

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  @tomafenes33306 күн бұрын

  Awesome video! ❤️🔥

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  @IanZ_Forge4 күн бұрын

  Thanks bro!!! ❤️⚒️💪

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  @kurotetsuoni13156 күн бұрын

  Nice hammer dude. Also in your next video, I hope to see you make an Elden Ring-style or Elden Ring-inspired Executioner sword next.

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  @2FRESH-4U6 күн бұрын

  Also, putting salt in the water

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  @tazsnoop10446 күн бұрын

  It's not Damascus steel

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  @edwardchance25436 күн бұрын

  Thanks for sharing subscribed

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  @kainvonakenbak79666 күн бұрын

  We call that a dagger amongst litterate people 😂😂

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  @MorgottofLeyendell6 күн бұрын

  Nice, simple but beautiful.

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  @cheeseballs38256 күн бұрын

  I saw a guy on forged in fire put salt in the water.

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  @Tunkkis6 күн бұрын

  Yeah, it's an issue of technique and prep, not of the quench medium.

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  @YTDeletes90PercentOfMyComments7 күн бұрын

  Who the fuck cares about water? That isnt how you quench a katana at all. You built the curve into the annealed blade.

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  @Calebgoblin7 күн бұрын

  The most important thing about forging is to know the difference between Damascus steel and pattern welding. Ugh.