A lifelong car enthusiast, I needed an outlet for my passion…and KZread provided me with one! Here I talk mostly about my BMW E46 M3 and BMW E60 M5 (the one with the V10) along with other fast, mostly German cars. Let me know what you think in the comments.
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How much did the conversion cost??
Didn’t expect to find what I wanted to search. Searched it anyway and here I am. Thanks for the video.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
hey brent , let me know where you driving ill meet you guys, v10s unite!
Hey Guillermo - I'm all for it! I just sent you a FB Messenger message. Please text me and let's set something up!
Hey Brent, another great video! At the end of the month, I will have owned my 2005 M3 for 14 yrs. I've put just a hair over 54k miles on it and spent a total of $16k in maintenance and parts, which averages out to less than $1200 a year not including the gas. I need to spend some big money soon. Much like yours, my interior plastic trim has the "alligator skin" peeling look, I should see about getting the rod bearing issue looked at, and the front and rear suspension/bushings need refreshed at this age since most are original factory parts, so that may be in the works here in 2024. I can't believe I've had a car this long, but at the same time, I can't ever see myself selling it either because it's just so much fun, even if it does get more costly as it ages. I think most people would agree, even our health is more costly as we age too. So, we have to take care of the things we love, the things that put smiles on our faces, especially when we put our right foot down to the floor. In the end, it's all worth it, especially when you have an E46///M3! 😎
As a bona fide middle-ager now, I wholeheartedly agree with everything you say here! While it stings, given what a new car costs, at some point replacement parts simply become necessary. But yeah - life without my M3 would be unbearable. Every time I twist that key and hear that straight-six come to life, every worry just melts away. Sadly, we've gotta pay for that. Fortunately, I've never regretted a dime spent on that car. Thank you so much commenting; you made me smile big! Congrats on 14 years!
I dont have an M3... but the next best thing, the 330ci.. absolutely worth keeping! It's a cheaper approach to an M3 that could provide the same fun and thrill. I agree with all the maintenance details needed. And I'm on the way for some reasonable cash burning. Lol
Nice! They’re great cars
If you love the drivers car, enjoy doing diy maintenance, and would otherwise just lease a car, then this is a great choice financially. I compare my ownership and maintenance cost of my e46 m3 to what it would typically cost for a decent lease which would be $300-$400 per month. Over 5yrs thats $21000 on average which is about the cost of a used m3.. money that you'll never recoup in a lease. You may end up using $10000+ for maintenance on the m3 but it provides so much enjoyment and retains its value so well compared to a new car that its a wonderful proposition all around. Loving mine after 7yrs and somehow it gets better each year
Couldn’t say it better if I tried. Preach! Cars are expensive, no matter what. Might as well drive what you love and hold onto it. Depreciation is by far the biggest cost
"Aerodynamics are for those who can't build engines"...E.F
And Enzo built some glorious engines. Just got back from seeing it. Wow! Wouldn’t change a frame of my vid
If you want a manual you should buy a manual BUT i don't agree with conversions as it should devalue ANY car never mind just a E46 M3..... The Negative comments only come from know it all BOY racers...... BUT they forget to mention one MAJOR point about the SMG.... The reason why BMW only used the SMG in their fastest E46 M3 build ( the CSL ) .... Because they knew that the racing box was the SMG and not the boy racer wanna have a 6 speed manual box...... No Argument.. Full Stop...
Indeed, I don't say this in every video, but I've made the point more than once that if you're tracking the M3, SMG is the way to go... unless you've mastered heel and toe, which I and most others have not. It's a great gearbox. From a driving experience - as I use the car - the manual has added new life, freeing the engine up - and the driver's experience of it. I'd say they're both great gearboxes, but really they're the same - the Getrag 420g. It's really a matter of how you use the car. In the nearly 13 years I've owned it, I've tracked it once. The SMG made all the difference. Now that it's converted, day-to-day as I use it, I love it as a manual.
FFS...... Another Boy Racer gobbing off about the SMG and being a flaw......YES there are companies that carryout conversions BUT it's only because there are fools in the world that watch to many Boy Racer KZread vids....... No doubt YOUR next video will be on how a COLD air intake gives us 50hp extra ffs...... The Negative comments only come from know it all BOY racers...... BUT they forget to mention one MAJOR point about the SMG.... The reason why BMW only used the SMG in their fastest E46 M3 build ( the CSL ) .... Because they knew that the racing box was the SMG and not the boy racer wanna have a 6 speed manual box...... No Argument.. Full Stop...
If you like a manual then all good go for it HOWEVER if your going to TOSS off about a SMG can't keep up with a manual while changing gears then please STOP bull shitting to the public.... The Negative comments only come from know it all BOY racers...... BUT they forget to mention one MAJOR point about the SMG.... The reason why BMW only used the SMG in their fastest E46 M3 build ( the CSL ) .... Because they knew that the racing box was the SMG and not the boy racer wanna have a 6 speed manual box...... No Argument.. Full Stop...
I replied to your similar comment on "The BMW E46 M3’s dreaded SMG." Indeed - for those who don't know, some education is in order. That was my intention with the vids I made on the topic.
Great video Brent. This needs many more views and honestly is a great summary of an amazing brand. Cheers
Thank you, Mark! It just went live, so I hope it does. Above all, I want people to go see the movie. They made it for us - now let’s go see it! When are you going? I’ll be there Christmas Day!
@@brentdcampbell 122.5%. Wishing you and your family an amazing Holiday season.
@@ECPP Thank you, Mark. Getting the M5 out on the road tomorrow. Can’t wait! And I wish you and your beautiful family a wonderful holiday as well!
what can i say another great video brent i like our you go through the break down in detail on everything you have purchased i think the next big thing for me is the rodbearings add say
How many miles on your M3, Mike? Having both the S85 and S54 engines, I can tell you it’s a bigger issue for the S85. Thing is, you don’t know if previous owners of your car warmed it up properly before giving it the beans. I’m thinking that I’ve gotta do the rear subframe reinforcement next. Has yours been done? Have you had any VANOS issues?
@@brentdcampbell mines on about 112k at minute and yes thats the thing you never know how the previous owners have treated it on warm up etc i know my self im really ocd about it Yes i had a nut and bolt resto done on the rear a few years back literally the full works pretty much No my vanos seems fine upto yet every so often i run the test on ista to give it a health check also do it while ive got engine flush which helps alot
Sounds like you're very proactive, Mike. It must make a huge difference in your car's long-term health
@@brentdcampbell yes mate i try my best with budget im on i dont earn very much but iff money was better add go a whole lot further its trying to save and do bit by bit each year and with having 2 cars to run it does limit abit but just try the best i can thats all you can do
My. thoughts exactly and I echo the previous comments. It has looks that never get old and an engine that has more character than all the turbo motors combined (IMHO). You're doing everything right from where I'm sitting, Brent.
Aw.. Thanks, man. I appreciate your words and interest in mine! It's clear the next project is the rear subframe. It's always something! Then again, 12 years in, we can think of things on a fairly long timeline.. Yet those looks and that engine are indeed timeless, which is much of the joy we get out of the experience of looking after these cars.
A true enthusiast i too have been a lover of the m e36 m3 evo 2003 to 2007 then i bought my first csl i still have the car but i bought a regular e46 m3 in 2010 till 2017 when i purchased another track orientated csl which is still with me. Keep up the good work love your videos 😎
You've got an enviable stable! Are you in the UK? We can't get a CSL over here.. And the E36 Evo?? So cool! Thanks for the props, too.
@@brentdcampbell Yes I'm in the UK the csl is absolutely amazing
That's what they say! I've never driven one, though, how different can it be? Is it the reduced weight, the extra power from the CF airbox, the tires, or the combination?
I've owned the regular e46 m3 which had uprated brakes and coilovers and a carbon airbox and trust me it's a total different animal to the csl words can't describe the feel and poise and raw feel it gives. Don't get me wrong the normal m3 is an awesome car but that makes the csl even more so👊
Sometimes that extra 10% makes all the difference!
I hear you about the recent costs. It’s not really about stuff that breaks (nothing ever broke on mine), but about the stuff you do to bring it back to a “like new” condition, because you love it and want it to be perfect.
Very true, Corrado. And like I say in the video, it’s money well spent for an appreciating asset - something precious few cars can claim.
I agree completely. Preventative maintenance is a drug!
Glad you still have your M3. I've held onto mine too, and did the manual swap in 2020, it's been very reliable.
Glad to hear! The manual swap completely changed the character of the car. It's been cool to experience it both ways.
In a few years I wonder if ones with recently refurbished SMGs (still with two pedals) will be worth roughly the same as the equivalent manuals? For me I'd quite like an SMG but I'd want a previous owner to foot the bill when it goes!
It's a question many of us have asked. From a maintenance standpoint, the manual makes way more sense. Ultimately, that was what drove my decision. And I have no regrets. But I've also owned the car for nearly 14 years and have no plans to sell.
I recently sold a pristine, low mileage E46 M3 6MT after 10 years of ownership. I replaced it with an M2C DCT. I had both for around 4 months, so I had a chance to compare them quite a bit. My E46 M3 had a lot of "improvements" such as an eisenmann exhaust, a carbonio intake, pulleys, sway bars, coil overs, a 4.2 diff, an AS 30% reduction shifter, CDV delete, CSL brakes and various other things, so it handled, accelerated, stopped and sounded better than stock. It was a fun car to drive, but not nearly as fun as the M2C. I think a lot of people overly romanticize the E46 M3. I will say that the S54 sounds much better than the S55 and many people prefer the hydraulic assist steering of the E46 M3 compared to the electric assist steering of the F87. I think the E46 M3 is a nice looking car, but I also like the looks of the F87. The M2C handles much better, due to the more modern suspension and the wider track. I wouldn't be surprised if the F87 has higher torsional rigidity than the E46 M3 as well. For me, by far the biggest difference and what I enjoy the most about the M2C is the accessibility of the power. The car switches from docile to rabid beast instantaneously. This is due in part to the massive torque of the engine, but also due to the DCT. I would love to drive an E46 M3 with a 4.10 diff and the DCT from the M2C. I think it would transform the car. Alas, that's not going to happen. The things I disliked about the E46 M3 are the transmission (even as a manual with an improved shifter and CDV delete it's horrible), the clunky drivetrain and the fact that you had to drive it so hard for it to be enjoyable. I think some people convince themselves that they like having to work for it, but I prefer instant gratification. I also disliked the poor quality materials in the interior. Practically speaking, while the E46 M3 is easier to maintain than many newer cars, you better be good with a wrench if you own one or be prepared to spend a lot of money keeping it up. Even if you do the work yourself, parts are not inexpensive. And on top of that, many parts are no longer available new. Prices are going up for very high quality E46 M3s, but these cars are rare. Most of the lower priced cars have very high mileage, so they are going to cost money to keep on the road. I would have fetched a higher price for my car if I sold it last year, but I still did pretty good. It almost paid for my M2C. I'm very glad I sold the E46 M3 and bought the M2C.
I recently sold a mint condition, low mileage E46 M3 6MT with quite a few "improvements", such as coil-overs, sway bars, 4.10 diff, exhaust, autosolutions 30% reduction shifter, CDV delete, etc. The car replacing the E46 M3 is an M2C DCT. I enjoy driving the M2C much more than the E46 M3. Normally, I would prefer a manual transmission, but the Getrag 420G used in the E46 M3 is a turd. IMO, it's the biggest flaw of the vehicle. I don't think it's a desirable feature of a car that you have to "work for it". The accessibility of the M2C is one of the things I like most about it. The car can be completely docile one minute and spitting fury the next. I credit that to the torque of the S55 and the DCT. It would be interesting to drive an E46 M3 with the same DCT as the M2C. I also find my completely stock M2C to be much more planted than the E46 M3, even with the coil-overs and sway bars. The one thing about the E46 M2 that the M2C can't compete with is the sound. There is nothing like the sound of a high revving NA engine like the S54, S65 or S85.
Great video. Very lucky to have the manual version over there. We only have SMG in the UK. I did reach 198mph in mine though!
The SMG is way better matched to these cars and adds more drama... The manual they got was an afterthought....With 6 gears and bad ratios.... The SMG is the one!!!... I love my M6 and the only time the SMG is not great (Compared to a DTC ) is at low speeds and when you don't want all the aids off... So you don't have access to the fastest shifts... When fully lit in the M6, i know i wouldn't want the manual, the brutal shifts at 8k with a touch of flare up from the back wheels with a whip crack back into that seet spot NEVER gets old!!!! We got the best one lol...
Indeed - the SMG is the intended gearbox for the S85, and it's way faster than a manual. But the control you get with a manual? Priceless. You're driving a luxury sedan that's actually a muscle car. To feel it fully, you've gotta have a manual. I well understand that the SMG is objectively better in all ways but the driving experience. SMG or manual, the S85 is amazing. I was watching SavageGeese yesterday and Mark and Jack were lamenting the fact that BMW no longer puts even a V8 in a 5-series. That for one glorious moment they put a V10 in it, well, I'm counting my blessings!
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Thank you!
Brent, Awesome...!
Thanks, D!
Brent, great video. Most of summer traffic should wind down now. Time to take the beast out more often! Talk soon. D
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Dario! You're not wrong; I should take the Beast out!
very interesting brent looking forward yet again for the next videos 🙂
Thank you, Mike! And yes - I've got my work cut out for me for the next ones!
@@brentdcampbell cantwait brent 😉👌
what an amazing video yet again brent finally got round to catching up after the honeymoon im slowly getting there 😄
I'm glad you enjoyed it, Mike! Great you're all caught up now. ;)
BMW still Assholes
Great video. I really appreciate all the hard work you put into each one. Never been to Lime Rock either; wrong side of the pond! But it looks a lot of fun. You can't beat elevation changes for a good track day-out. Again: spectacular scenery; thanks New England.
Oh yes - it’s a glorious track with a storied history. Yet it was the location that shocked me most. Thanks, as always, for your kind words. One of the many neat aspects of KZread is that we can show to people all over the world what’s in our backyard (well, it’s an hour and a half drive away, but you get my point!) This one was one of the tougher vids I’ve made, but I just can’t seem to let it go until I feel I’ve done my best to tell the story. It’s such a joy making these. I wish I could do it all-day every day!
That S54 sounds awesome, So much nicer than the later turbocharged 6’s
Oh jeez, this is an ancient video. Please watch a newer one! Can I call you something other than MTechGuy?!? Try this one: kzread.info/dash/bejne/ma1705N6eMXWcdY.htmlsi=609xKIOMKSHvxIDb. Many more to come. Have you seen any of the new vids? I want you to see them! Which of yours must I watch next??
But yes - the raspy straight-six is heavenly. Thanks for the prompt to listen again. I’m getting to drive it again for the first time in two months. If you haven’t seen this, you must: kzread.info/dash/bejne/pKdtwdp-hLfWdsY.htmlsi=jIn5ORfOYzOSJLx1
@@brentdcampbell Hey mate, yeah of course, call me Gav 👍 Wow so you’ve since converted the M3 to manual, bet that’s given it a new lease of life/new experience! I’ll have to check out your latest vids. I’ve been putting out more E60 M5 DIY vids, and a new channel trailer- kzread.info/dash/bejne/l4GDtJaGcbHWhsY.html
@MTechGuy Absolutely, Gav; it completely changed the driving experience. After driving the car 11 years as SMG, it’s been great to experience it a different way. I watched your trailer. It’s neat to see how different folks approach their content in different ways. I’m about telling stories, where you’re about showing us how to maintain these things. Great stuff!
I had no idea you'd never been! Joshua and I went to the IMSA weekend this year. It was hot, but a blast. Also, the Blazer....mmmmmm I haven't been there in decades. Loved their burgers. Great job. Love the passion :).
Thank you, Dan! Yeah - crazy to have never been. That’s great you and Joshua went. Was he into it? (I so loved that image of the Dad and daughter camping out behind their orange 911..) I stumbled upon the Blazer, too! “Best in the world.” Had to try it. :)
I'm celebrating 20 years with my bought-new 2004 M3 (ordered custom and received October, 2003). It's a great car. Happily does whatever I want to do, and always gives me a smile. 175k miles and no issues. Maintenance and the big 3 done.
Glad to hear. Enjoy the ride!
Good to see you get out and enjoy a great road with a sensational view as a reward. As you say, it's difficult to stretch these cars in daily driving. Thanks for the ride-along.
Thanks for your words as always, sir. I got to do it twice, as you may have seen with the two angles. Yes - that view is something! Especially from the drone’s POV!
Care to see more of that view? This is from my other channel: kzread.info/dash/bejne/X62k0MSDo8uzhJM.htmlsi=O0Ym0NNSPfPmohkm
I forgot to mention the neat drop-in of the real-time map. I imagine that wasn't the work of a moment!
Such a great shot of the drone coming in over the parked M5 and the M5 snaking into the distance. Really beautiful country you got to be a part of. Very lucky.
Thank you; I appreciate that you notice the details like. I wasn't sure how I would use it, but I turned on the screen recording the first drive up. Later, I realized I could use it to help track where we were on the road. Editing it in was tricky, though, as I made the drive up a full minute faster the second round than the first.@@964tractorboy
That looks like a phenomenal stretch. Great find Brent! As much fun as it is with the M5 and would be with my SS, I can stop to think how much MORE it might be with the e46. Have you taken it there yet? Great job as always and thanks for sharing your passion.
Thanks for your words, Dan. We might be able to go up there together sometime. Let’s talk. I’d think the switchbacks toward the bottom would be ideal for the M3, for sure, but it’s so cool to finally step into the M5’s explosive power. You’re going at a good 30 degree angle the whole way up. The M3’s six runs out of breath where the M5’s power builds and builds. The road let’s you tap it.
One should do this every weekend.
Push it a little bit bro
A buddy put the fear in me, so I edited those parts out and let Tiff fill in the blanks. The V10 stretched its legs.
Great summary of a legendary BMW Brent. Thanks a lot for sharing. Thats one of the keepers.
Glad you enjoyed it, Mark! Thanks for watching. Anytime you want to catch up, just let me know - you hear?
Nice drive Amazing machines 👍
Thanks, Chris!
Oh, shoot moment!
Ha! Indeed. 9 days ago, eh? You DID see this!!
I’ve got a couple more vids coming, Corrado. Please stay tuned.
@@brentdcampbell yes, I did see this and remembered to exit the Dragon slowly 😜
At least someone benefited from my rookie mistake!@@corradotox
Aaahhh love this!!
Absolutely amazing video Brent. Love it and cannot agree more. Further development of the s65 and s85 maybe with a little more durability, more displacement, and manual or DCT only. No more SMGs. There is no doubt the latest cars are fast and powerful but with SUVs sharing their performance engine as their sport sedans and coupes shows that things feel a bit more generic. I too love the Jan of the latest but my lust for the latest M is not what it used to be. The also agree on the last M2 Comp and CS are the closest thing and they are amazing but other than that. Time will tell. Great video and hope you are keeping well Brent. Cheers
Sorry to just see your comment, Mark! I'm so glad you enjoyed the vid. I suppose nothing lasts forever, eh? Thankfully BMW made a lot of cars that we can enjoy for many years to come.. I really enjoyed that chat we had a few years back. How about we do that again sometime? I'm curious what you're up to these days...beyond making videos, of course. :)
Taking a Taycan owner back in time to another German legend that's NA
Main difference is SOUND!!
@Brent Campbell There are many differences, but many can argue that the Taycan is an evolution of the autobahn cruiser.
@@philliesphan334 I hear it's a fine vehicle. We're taking it out tomorrow. :)
We are truly cut from the same piece of cloth. Well done, Brent. Aside from the M5CS and M3 touring(loath the front and the fact that it will NEVER come stateside), I do wish BMW did a better job taking the money they print from the SUVs and making the M brand feel more special and unique. It just feels so watered down. Keep up the great work.
Thanks for watching and your words. Dan. Yeah - it seems the evolution of a car’s form is changing so fast, it’s hard to hold on to what made M so special in the first place.
Do you feel newer fuel efficiency regulations led BMW to make their cars not as exciting or do you feel Porsche debunks that notion & BMW is trying to appeal to a more profitable group (non enthusiasts)
Great question, Bobby. Probably a little of both. Porsche’s got their act together (I’m driving that Taycan today, so we’ll see), and BMW is raking in profits as the ultimate SUV maker (my bro just got a X7, and I’ll review it before long.) My theory is that BMW is going where the profits are as they continue to throw bones at U.S. enthusiasts with totally unaffordable special edition models. I get it, but it kinda sucks. Thankfully, many of the classics are still roadworthy and their owners are forever incentivized to keep them that way.
@@brentdcampbell when reviewing the M2 you seemed to have enjoyed it & when evaluating pure metrics, the newer cars better than the older ones. Despite that, what did you feel it was missing from the M2 as a BMW enthusiast?
@@philliesphan334 Oh, I quite like my brother's M2 CS - the F87. Comparing it to the E46 (kzread.info/dash/bejne/iYh_k9ytY5rQl7g.html), it lacks a bit of the race engine specialness of the older Ms - in that it's really a tuned and boosted version of the production straight-six. Fast as hell, but not as special. I suppose my point of this video is that BMW used to build for enthusiasts knowing that regular car buyers would want what the enthusiasts wanted. It worked. Nowadays, BMW has shifted to making SUVs and other cars that lack appeal to most enthusiasts. That's working, too. For now, at least.
Well BMW certainly left me way behind about twenty years ago. I've now got my small cluster of manual N/A cars and have zero interest in the inflated bloated M cars of today. With an M3 at 1700+kg they're only going one way, and it's a tragedy. But again, the prices are keeping pace so I'll never be in that rarified market. Add-in the artificially accelerated transition to electric-power focussing purely on Li-ion and well... I'll keep the dinosaurs company I suppose! Terrifically high-quality video as always, Brent. Thanks for taking so much of your time producing and researching it.
Do you think they’re wrong to do it? After all, we enthusiasts make up a tiny percentage of their customer base (I for one have never bought a new car.) Used to be the enthusiasts brought everyone else along, but I don’t think that’s the case anymore. It’ll be interesting to watch how things unfold. As for the vids, thank you so much for your props. I could do this 60 hours a week and never tire of it. Too bad it doesn’t pay the bills! I’m driving that friend’s Taycan today. Will be interesting…
well theres not much for me to comment here as i agree with everything you saying here but at same time i want to say loads of stuff of my opinion on the new generation of bmw but still im thinking am i getting old or is this bmw range trendy i just dont get it i want to get it and understand it it but im really struggling with these new designs i really think the worlds gone mad and what are bmw thinking now 😩
Thanks, Mike. I hear you. Thing is, we've been bemoaning BMW's design decisions for 20+ years now. Somehow the world keeps turning.. :)
I think based on the fact alone that the M2/M3/M4 still come with a third pedal shows they are still doing the best they can to cater the M brand to enthusiasts, after dropping it from the M5s and beyond. I haven’t watched the other reviews but I think the M2 looks great and has an impressive stat sheet and agreed with daddy Doug on it. Just sucks that Bmw is left with no choice but to focus on the boring cars, it’s us enthusiasts vs ordinary consumers and the consumers will win every time because that’s where the money is. Great video!
Well said, Alex. I appreciate your keeping the faith! Yeah - the $$$ is in SUVs, and they’ve very effectively transitioned to making them.
Very interesting video! Cool stuff. Keep up the good work
Thanks, man. I appreciate it. We met at The Church, right?
@@brentdcampbell yes we did.
With the GT3RS being my dream car I can’t believe I haven’t made the time to check this place out, especially being in Georgia. Might need to go just to see that CGT 😃 Great video Brent!
Thanks so much, Alex. FWIW, I’ve lived in New York for 20 years and never taken my kids to the Statue of Liberty! I’m glad you enjoyed it. I had a clip with you in it but took it out because I worried it wasn’t relevant. I hope I can use it one in the future. Hope to see you again soon.
What is known as M,M competition,M CompetitionSport.... These are Variants?
I’m not understanding your question. There’s the first M2, then they improved on the formula with the M2 Competition, and then they finished the line with the further-improved limited-edition M2 CS.
A really interesting video Brent. I've seen a number of references to these centres over the years, but was never too motivated to give them a try. That may have changed! Thanks for the detailed video description too; it must have taken a while... I look forward to your BMW foray soon, I hope.
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! Yeah - this video took me two weeks. I'm a bit of a perfectionist; I try to make each video "the best I've ever done." I question how realistic it is for me to keep doing that, but I do enjoy it. Well, I did go to Spartanburg but didn't do a driving course this time. They have a museum there, called "The Centrum," which is excellent. Took lots of pics, too. I will include them in my next video, but I've been thinking the next one should be about the evolution of BMW design. I got to go to the launch event this past Thursday for the new XM - the most powerful car I've ever driven. I posted about it on Facebook here: facebook.com/brentdcampbell/posts/pfbid0Zq16ShY1DMLifpauSQaVY636za3sYen5S2cuDHmJzuq7PRUiQvCAUeRMFFmvcwwbl?comment_id=991383758946871¬if_id=1682728841542778¬if_t=feedback_reaction_generic&ref=notif. Having said that, I have been to the BMW facility half a dozen times, give or take. And I did a proper review of the experience - including the driving - back in July '19 when my brother and I picked up his M2 Competition. You can watch it here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/Yn5hrZZ9gMzAhdo.html. Enjoy!