Take the movement oit of your feiko and order some new parts and build your own! Then it turns into a great story :) As for the first watch you ordered - unless it is real gold - one should always expect gold colouri g to come off if worn against skin amd clothing...good luck!
@travis3430Күн бұрын
That watch is probably worth the 160 you paid. Good finishing & probably an reliable Seiko made movement in there. Id say you've landed on your feet there.
@khatalelltv142923 күн бұрын
thank you very much sir for this information .. i am this very close to ordering a seiko 5 in pindudu and taobao .. but just like you said the price is too good to be true ... i have a bit of an affordable collection of watches now ( casio and timex watches ) and i was hoping to upgrade myself into a 200-300 usd range of watches like seikos , orient . tissot ... this fake seiko it may look good and cheap but i wont feel great knowing that i am wearing a fake , its like i am deceiving others specially myself ... its the feeling the watch gave me that i started collecting in the first place .
@ArkRockDrm2 ай бұрын
I'm using a San Martin Tuna made in china for 6yrs now. Glass is better and have Sapphire, bezel insert is ceramic.
@RuffKutz3 ай бұрын
what movement is it using? if its the NH35 then its be ok.
@Lakshmishree-Rishita2746 ай бұрын
Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.
@Savitashri-Maitri725096 ай бұрын
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
@Aruna-Champakali326366 ай бұрын
Everyone is arguing around mega clone seller Ziarex. Basically, what happened is they fired some watchmaker, and that made him angry. He stole Rolexs complete database on his USB before he left, and because he has friends who are watchmakers inside Rolex
@Vipula-Kripa7226 ай бұрын
Cancel ziarex and their mega clone watches. Dealers are selling them as originals, and we are losing a lot.
@Utpala-Vinanti8806 ай бұрын
In the end, a new era of watches has come. Some illegal company from EU started making mega clones called ziarex. Basically, what they are doing is buying original parts from workers in Rolex who flag that part as damaged and sell them. But thats not the
@e28forever305 ай бұрын
Bullcrap
@Prem-Shaswati120876 ай бұрын
Everyone is arguing around mega clone seller Ziarex. Basically, what happened is they fired some watchmaker, and that made him angry. He stole Rolexs complete database on his USB before he left, and because he has friends who are watchmakers inside Rolex
@Isabel-Vritti874816 ай бұрын
Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.
@Lilavati-Sejal6136 ай бұрын
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
@Hemangi-Ananta53196 ай бұрын
A guy from Rolex stole their database and is now selling his own mega clone watches called Ziarex. This story is crazy. We need to ban this idiot.
@Manjushri-Shrikumari037326 ай бұрын
Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.
@Subarna-Anupama91596 ай бұрын
Screw ziarex! They sell mega clones that are passed off as originals in the aftermarket, causing people like me to lose money.
@Shankari-Surabhi938266 ай бұрын
Everyone is arguing around mega clone seller Ziarex. Basically, what happened is they fired some watchmaker, and that made him angry. He stole Rolexs complete database on his USB before he left, and because he has friends who are watchmakers inside Rolex
@user-ij6ve3rw6s6 ай бұрын
they must be cheaper transport is very expensief now days
@user-ij6ve3rw6s6 ай бұрын
they make the machines they make it china is rich why they make good fakes its best fake now we have a 3printer mate
@--RSL--6 ай бұрын
Say it with me…. Homage. It’s an homage. Oh my bad… your vid came up when i was looking for heimdallr monsters. Yes, you got faked. Just buy a heimdallr.
@fulltechahead6 ай бұрын
got one...good watch
@daver200077 ай бұрын
Bet it was a seiko movement, and still runs
@barbsweet78778 ай бұрын
Great video!! Well done!!
@flhong8 ай бұрын
Those can't afford they goes for fake watch & those are greedy for cheap low-price desire it. Don't complaint!
@danpost189 ай бұрын
I bought my sieko at Dillard's and the packaging you got was a lot nicer than mine. Mine has 4 R 36 on front and back. So maybe mine is the real deal. I hope.
@cmclo180910 ай бұрын
y
@mikelrebollo142510 ай бұрын
Where did you buy the watch? Thanks
@fulltechahead10 ай бұрын
bought it on Taobao in China...
@Hipnosis65 Жыл бұрын
My wife paid 60 bucks for a Seiko Frankenwatch with a 6349 movement. It has a real nice textured green dial, high polished bezel and dive watch hands. I love the thing and wear it all the time.
@limjohnjohn5851 Жыл бұрын
Most of the Seiko products are made in China and u will see its tag at the back plate indicated where it came from.
@valerioazcona66 Жыл бұрын
With $160.00 go to the store get one with all warranty it is a real one not being scare if a fake watch stop all trouble.
@SAREL1963 Жыл бұрын
That Seiko will last just as long as the Original and Service is very cheap.NH35A replace cost only $30
@fulltechahead Жыл бұрын
I am going to update the situation...I know a lot more about the watch now...it is definitely not a genuine Seiko...the movement is NH35A...but the crown appears to be a base metal, not stainless steel...it changed color after 3-4 months. I suspect that the movement is likely a chinese copy of the NH35A...The real Premier by Seiko was only produced in a real stainless steel case, and sold for about 6-700$. I will present my findings online soon.
@TheWatcherMax3 ай бұрын
The movement actually installed is a NH39A. No reason to fake this in a cheap watch since you can find those movement as a consumer directly for about €25. I have the same NH39A in a Pagani Design watch. Also the case and crown etc might be fakes but that doesn't mean the movement is fake. When you get these movements separately they come with a plastic crown and usually an extra stem with threads on, that you cut to length and screw the crown onto.
@johnwang9914 Жыл бұрын
There is a chance that the calibre (movement) is still SEIKO as SEIKO sells generic versions of their calibres such as the NH35A (an unbranded version of Seiko's 4R35 calibre) to other manufacturers and watchmakers in general. Usually the weight is painted yellow to show that it is the unbranded Seiko movement. Technically, the unbranded movement is a slightly improved and updated version of the Seiko calibre it is based on. Sure there are the Chinese Seagull movements and the Japanese Miyota movements that are also popular with replica manufacturers but the price of the Seiko unbranded movements is comparable. The issue with the fakes is that they have little interest in quality control overall, not in the quality of the mechanisms as those are often just purchased from Seiko, Miyota or Seagull.
@pokie6087 Жыл бұрын
Indeed. We don't get to see the watch closely but the open heart layout suggests this movement is a Seiko 4R38 which they sell to 3rd party manufacturers as the NH38. Plenty of micro brand makers use this movement. I have an Accurist that has it. Also noteworthy is the milled clasp as opposed to the cheap pressed item Seiko use. All in all, putting aside that it's fake. For the money it looks pretty good
@TheBibi31 Жыл бұрын
I bought a Seiko 5 here in China. It looked super real and felt like good quality. After a month of use I checked the writings on the watch with a macro lense. I noticed a typo on the word "crystal". Then noticed that the front and back of the watch indicated different informations. Your video finished to convinced me that my watch was fake when I checked the "warranty". I paid over a hundred dollars for it and didn't suspect a thing as it was my first watch...
@kivaaoli3722 Жыл бұрын
You cant smell fake leather you need to burn it
@CoDnChill Жыл бұрын
Buying anything in china is a headache unless you go to a certified retailer. I bought an orient from Jing Dong, after receiving the product I have searched online everywhere for 3 days without any satisfying result, Eventually I gave up lol
@DarthPlaya Жыл бұрын
One correction: The red lined plastic cover on the watches caseback is *NOT* a sign of fakery. A large number of companies (in all price ranges) use those stickers. I still find it hard to believe replicators would put so much effort into copying such low priced watches. If you're going to take the time and effort to make a convicing fake Seiko, why not fake a Grand Seiko or some other higher cost model. It's like a counterfeiter making single dollars instead of $100 dollar bills!
@fulltechahead Жыл бұрын
indeed...but I think the turnover is faster on lower priced pieces, and people suspect expensive brands may be fake, and exercise more caution when buying.
@DarthPlaya Жыл бұрын
@@fulltechahead People suspecting and exercising more caution is a valid point, but counterfeiters feed on the knowledge that their are always going to be the not so diligent buyers to prey on. The economics of counterfeiting 101 shows that copying single dollars is just as expensive as copying $100 bills (not to mention that jail time is the same if your caught faking $1 or $100) The higher profit margins on the more expensive pieces will usually outweigh any amount of money made by the faster turnover of lower priced copies.
@gtracer6629 Жыл бұрын
They do make a Grand Seiko fake and it's cost about $30. It looks pretty good for the money.
@e28forever305 ай бұрын
Even the cheapest Casio watches are being faked.
@elmoesteban9531 Жыл бұрын
not fake
@fulltechahead Жыл бұрын
really? care to support your claim?
@andreykrasehin2823 Жыл бұрын
Ты десятки раз повторил что это подделка, но не привёл никаких доказательств плохого качества часов! А зачем переплачивать, китайцы делают копии частенько на тех же заводах!!!
@bodegaboylex Жыл бұрын
Hamilton’s are nice
@scootermann83 Жыл бұрын
Lol the font at 4:40 looks completely fucked, the bag has a more legit looking Seiko font.
@kwinjustin4746 Жыл бұрын
*Every time i see haul you made i wish i live your life , beautiful stunning stylish cute and high class . i love your channel . I am replica collector for more than 2 years, i have never seen better replicas then ones @ **autwch.com** , honestly.*
@metallion0738 Жыл бұрын
I have a fake Seiko or counterfeit Seiko watch that I purchased at Wish, I only pay $22 dollars for it, the original costs $600 so for only $22 dollars for the Seiko X divers 200 m, I'm getting a deal and people can't tell the difference if you are wearing it.
@e28forever305 ай бұрын
Yeah sure.
@samuelemmanuel3400 Жыл бұрын
😂😂
@dave.t8141 Жыл бұрын
so if you were given the watch without all the packaging how would you determine that it's fake ?
@fulltechahead Жыл бұрын
At first glance, it is hard to tell...like many fakes today. However, it didn't take long for the quality issues to show. I have another video to show how this fake Seiko looked and worked like only a year later...it was not a pretty sight.
@iceshakle Жыл бұрын
It's a fake so why be so surprised?
@louisdalessandro2495 Жыл бұрын
Let's see watch ,punter
@louisdalessandro2495 Жыл бұрын
Stop going over and over packaging,,get to watch
@CyberRabid. Жыл бұрын
What caliber is the movement?
@fulltechahead Жыл бұрын
supposed to be a NH35...but I think it's a poor copy of a NH35
@fulltechahead Жыл бұрын
also, the crown was/is not even stainless steel..it is some kind of cheap base metal that tarnished already
@hvacae69042 жыл бұрын
Nice video but your video is not clear showing the detail
@Emconstante_ev2 жыл бұрын
Qual site acha seiko premium AAA!?
@alexknezevic83272 жыл бұрын
Are all Seiko watches without international warranty fake? In other words, do Seiko watches have to come with international warranty?
@fulltechahead2 жыл бұрын
I would not say 'all' of them do, but the Premier and other reasonably expensive models do. Mine came with a fake certificate, so obviously the fakers knew the real model was issued with an international guarantee. Some non-authorized sites sell counterfeit or second-hand watches, or watches that have been tampered with, and are, therefore, not eligible for care under the Seiko warranty. Others do not offer the original Seiko international warranty, nor do they offer any after-sales service of any kind. Usually their guarantee is transferrable to, from one state/country to another. So, it is important to buy a Seiko from an authorized Seiko dealer, especially if it's a high priced model.
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Take the movement oit of your feiko and order some new parts and build your own! Then it turns into a great story :) As for the first watch you ordered - unless it is real gold - one should always expect gold colouri g to come off if worn against skin amd clothing...good luck!
That watch is probably worth the 160 you paid. Good finishing & probably an reliable Seiko made movement in there. Id say you've landed on your feet there.
thank you very much sir for this information .. i am this very close to ordering a seiko 5 in pindudu and taobao .. but just like you said the price is too good to be true ... i have a bit of an affordable collection of watches now ( casio and timex watches ) and i was hoping to upgrade myself into a 200-300 usd range of watches like seikos , orient . tissot ... this fake seiko it may look good and cheap but i wont feel great knowing that i am wearing a fake , its like i am deceiving others specially myself ... its the feeling the watch gave me that i started collecting in the first place .
I'm using a San Martin Tuna made in china for 6yrs now. Glass is better and have Sapphire, bezel insert is ceramic.
what movement is it using? if its the NH35 then its be ok.
Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
Everyone is arguing around mega clone seller Ziarex. Basically, what happened is they fired some watchmaker, and that made him angry. He stole Rolexs complete database on his USB before he left, and because he has friends who are watchmakers inside Rolex
Cancel ziarex and their mega clone watches. Dealers are selling them as originals, and we are losing a lot.
In the end, a new era of watches has come. Some illegal company from EU started making mega clones called ziarex. Basically, what they are doing is buying original parts from workers in Rolex who flag that part as damaged and sell them. But thats not the
Bullcrap
Everyone is arguing around mega clone seller Ziarex. Basically, what happened is they fired some watchmaker, and that made him angry. He stole Rolexs complete database on his USB before he left, and because he has friends who are watchmakers inside Rolex
Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.
Cancel ziarex and mega clone watches. They are destroying the whole community of original watches and becoming a threat to the economy and dignity of Rolex.
A guy from Rolex stole their database and is now selling his own mega clone watches called Ziarex. This story is crazy. We need to ban this idiot.
Ziarex must be stopped at all costs. People are losing money since their mega clone watches started to be sold as originals on the aftermarket.
Screw ziarex! They sell mega clones that are passed off as originals in the aftermarket, causing people like me to lose money.
Everyone is arguing around mega clone seller Ziarex. Basically, what happened is they fired some watchmaker, and that made him angry. He stole Rolexs complete database on his USB before he left, and because he has friends who are watchmakers inside Rolex
they must be cheaper transport is very expensief now days
they make the machines they make it china is rich why they make good fakes its best fake now we have a 3printer mate
Say it with me…. Homage. It’s an homage. Oh my bad… your vid came up when i was looking for heimdallr monsters. Yes, you got faked. Just buy a heimdallr.
got one...good watch
Bet it was a seiko movement, and still runs
Great video!! Well done!!
Those can't afford they goes for fake watch & those are greedy for cheap low-price desire it. Don't complaint!
I bought my sieko at Dillard's and the packaging you got was a lot nicer than mine. Mine has 4 R 36 on front and back. So maybe mine is the real deal. I hope.
y
Where did you buy the watch? Thanks
bought it on Taobao in China...
My wife paid 60 bucks for a Seiko Frankenwatch with a 6349 movement. It has a real nice textured green dial, high polished bezel and dive watch hands. I love the thing and wear it all the time.
Most of the Seiko products are made in China and u will see its tag at the back plate indicated where it came from.
With $160.00 go to the store get one with all warranty it is a real one not being scare if a fake watch stop all trouble.
That Seiko will last just as long as the Original and Service is very cheap.NH35A replace cost only $30
I am going to update the situation...I know a lot more about the watch now...it is definitely not a genuine Seiko...the movement is NH35A...but the crown appears to be a base metal, not stainless steel...it changed color after 3-4 months. I suspect that the movement is likely a chinese copy of the NH35A...The real Premier by Seiko was only produced in a real stainless steel case, and sold for about 6-700$. I will present my findings online soon.
The movement actually installed is a NH39A. No reason to fake this in a cheap watch since you can find those movement as a consumer directly for about €25. I have the same NH39A in a Pagani Design watch. Also the case and crown etc might be fakes but that doesn't mean the movement is fake. When you get these movements separately they come with a plastic crown and usually an extra stem with threads on, that you cut to length and screw the crown onto.
There is a chance that the calibre (movement) is still SEIKO as SEIKO sells generic versions of their calibres such as the NH35A (an unbranded version of Seiko's 4R35 calibre) to other manufacturers and watchmakers in general. Usually the weight is painted yellow to show that it is the unbranded Seiko movement. Technically, the unbranded movement is a slightly improved and updated version of the Seiko calibre it is based on. Sure there are the Chinese Seagull movements and the Japanese Miyota movements that are also popular with replica manufacturers but the price of the Seiko unbranded movements is comparable. The issue with the fakes is that they have little interest in quality control overall, not in the quality of the mechanisms as those are often just purchased from Seiko, Miyota or Seagull.
Indeed. We don't get to see the watch closely but the open heart layout suggests this movement is a Seiko 4R38 which they sell to 3rd party manufacturers as the NH38. Plenty of micro brand makers use this movement. I have an Accurist that has it. Also noteworthy is the milled clasp as opposed to the cheap pressed item Seiko use. All in all, putting aside that it's fake. For the money it looks pretty good
I bought a Seiko 5 here in China. It looked super real and felt like good quality. After a month of use I checked the writings on the watch with a macro lense. I noticed a typo on the word "crystal". Then noticed that the front and back of the watch indicated different informations. Your video finished to convinced me that my watch was fake when I checked the "warranty". I paid over a hundred dollars for it and didn't suspect a thing as it was my first watch...
You cant smell fake leather you need to burn it
Buying anything in china is a headache unless you go to a certified retailer. I bought an orient from Jing Dong, after receiving the product I have searched online everywhere for 3 days without any satisfying result, Eventually I gave up lol
One correction: The red lined plastic cover on the watches caseback is *NOT* a sign of fakery. A large number of companies (in all price ranges) use those stickers. I still find it hard to believe replicators would put so much effort into copying such low priced watches. If you're going to take the time and effort to make a convicing fake Seiko, why not fake a Grand Seiko or some other higher cost model. It's like a counterfeiter making single dollars instead of $100 dollar bills!
indeed...but I think the turnover is faster on lower priced pieces, and people suspect expensive brands may be fake, and exercise more caution when buying.
@@fulltechahead People suspecting and exercising more caution is a valid point, but counterfeiters feed on the knowledge that their are always going to be the not so diligent buyers to prey on. The economics of counterfeiting 101 shows that copying single dollars is just as expensive as copying $100 bills (not to mention that jail time is the same if your caught faking $1 or $100) The higher profit margins on the more expensive pieces will usually outweigh any amount of money made by the faster turnover of lower priced copies.
They do make a Grand Seiko fake and it's cost about $30. It looks pretty good for the money.
Even the cheapest Casio watches are being faked.
not fake
really? care to support your claim?
Ты десятки раз повторил что это подделка, но не привёл никаких доказательств плохого качества часов! А зачем переплачивать, китайцы делают копии частенько на тех же заводах!!!
Hamilton’s are nice
Lol the font at 4:40 looks completely fucked, the bag has a more legit looking Seiko font.
*Every time i see haul you made i wish i live your life , beautiful stunning stylish cute and high class . i love your channel . I am replica collector for more than 2 years, i have never seen better replicas then ones @ **autwch.com** , honestly.*
I have a fake Seiko or counterfeit Seiko watch that I purchased at Wish, I only pay $22 dollars for it, the original costs $600 so for only $22 dollars for the Seiko X divers 200 m, I'm getting a deal and people can't tell the difference if you are wearing it.
Yeah sure.
😂😂
so if you were given the watch without all the packaging how would you determine that it's fake ?
At first glance, it is hard to tell...like many fakes today. However, it didn't take long for the quality issues to show. I have another video to show how this fake Seiko looked and worked like only a year later...it was not a pretty sight.
It's a fake so why be so surprised?
Let's see watch ,punter
Stop going over and over packaging,,get to watch
What caliber is the movement?
supposed to be a NH35...but I think it's a poor copy of a NH35
also, the crown was/is not even stainless steel..it is some kind of cheap base metal that tarnished already
Nice video but your video is not clear showing the detail
Qual site acha seiko premium AAA!?
Are all Seiko watches without international warranty fake? In other words, do Seiko watches have to come with international warranty?
I would not say 'all' of them do, but the Premier and other reasonably expensive models do. Mine came with a fake certificate, so obviously the fakers knew the real model was issued with an international guarantee. Some non-authorized sites sell counterfeit or second-hand watches, or watches that have been tampered with, and are, therefore, not eligible for care under the Seiko warranty. Others do not offer the original Seiko international warranty, nor do they offer any after-sales service of any kind. Usually their guarantee is transferrable to, from one state/country to another. So, it is important to buy a Seiko from an authorized Seiko dealer, especially if it's a high priced model.