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I have been riding Shimano componentry the past 15years. He is not complaining but stating the facts. Currently I have SLX and I like the smooth shifting a lot better than XT that I used to have. Most people ride for fun and recreationally and don’t need the hard press barely faster shifting, unless you are racing and every split second matters. Great video, right on the money for majority of the riders out there. 👍
Hi, totally agree , i have shimano ultgra ones and they're exactly the same, ive moved them 5 times , cannot get it right, I used to have deore rapid fire on top of the bar, much quicker and more comfortable.
If you use i-spec you pay the price of lack of adjustment I don't like it I have shifter further left then it allows Can't you just do single shifts with the xtr ? It also looks like you have them rotated different I use deore to I'm often think of changing too interesting video 👍
I've got a Ripley V4 as well and it came with the DHRII on the rear and I swapped it out for a Dissector and have run the tire for roughly 2 seasons (April through the end of December) on steep, rooty, rocky New England single track and have had zero issues w/sliding or with knobs coming off. I'm riding roughly 350-450 miles per season with roughly 120k' of climbing/descending each season over lots of granite and shale/slate surfaces and in lots of wet leaves spring and fall. You must ride on some seriously abrasive surfaces. I also run MaxxTerra and don't ever ride asphalt (like to/from trailhead, etc.). Tread choice, sidewall choice and compound choice are extremely location dependent..what works in loamy conditions may not work (and won't last as long) in Moab.
This is ultra niche, but a valid complaint. I love the feeling of xt shifters compared to my super old 3x9 partially xt set-up. Just buy sram axs for that thumb situation of urs? Or experiment some more with different techniques en positions.
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100% agree with this video Dissector waste of money...
thanks for the review, nice and straight forward
Great content man. Always good to have real reviews from riders like me. I’ve been riding Pirelli tires lately but thinking about getting back to the DHRII rear DHF front or maybe Assegai front 🤔
You really have a point here, considering especially price of those xt/xtr shifters. They used to be better
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thanks i have just ordered my sd i can sleep now
And to think, I was gonna buy a Dissector for the front wheel of my bike...disaster averted. LOL
Forekaster 2.4 3C EXO is my current favorite as front tire
I have a DHF and Dissector MaxTerra's F/R that replaced Vee Crown Gems 2.3x29 on a stock Marin Rift Zone. Have not yet run into what you dealing with but as a noob I probably don't ride as much or as hard. The stock Vee tires dumped me twice bruising ribs on both sides.
For me is the SAME PROBLEM. I had to change the support and divide the brake to the shifter but I am not happy in any case. I AGREE WITH YOU
Get the Forkaster or aggressor instead
Great content, please keep up the good work and do more reviews about mtb tyres
Ich habe genau das gleiche Problem und es gefällt mir auch nicht! Shimano xt SL m780 i war viel besser denn dort kann man in beiden Richtung runter schalten auf Zug und Druck. Mein Daumen auch zu kurz.
Literally just remove the battery, put it back in, power on and finally connect. Worked for me :)
GOOD SHIMANO OR SRAM GRIPSHIFT AFTER USING TRIGGERS FOR YEARS, FEELS SO MUCH BETTER, FASTER ,IT'S INSANE 💥 💯👌🏼💥
I have now DHR II maxxterra in the back that is still good, but used, and I have DHR II maxxgrip in the front that is pretty new. For this new season I want more traction for pedaling techy uphill stuff so I want maxxgrip rubber now. I was looking at the Dissector but as you and others have said it just doesn't do too well. That's why I think I'll just go with DHR II maxxgrip both front and rear, as I personally really dislike the DHF because it's vague feeling between no lean to full lean because there's just simply no knobs there. I do not want to slide half lean every turn in the front so DHR II is just better there even though it is technically a rear tire, lots of others use it as front as well.
DHR II MaxGrip on the front rolls much faster than DHF with solid turns without lean outs. What I'm riding now is Forekaster 2.4 Gen 2 tires and never been happier. Fast rolling, excellent grip, and solid leans into berms with confidence.
Maxxis Forekaster 3C EXO MaxTerra for front. DHR II rear. amzn.to/3xtb8Pu
@@udtrader Forekaster is a much lighter thread pattern and it only comes with maxxterra. I only want maxxgrip now and I also want a thread pattern that will have more bite to it. I ride a Pivot Switchblade, and even though I don't ride very hard I still want to trust my front tire especially. Even for pedaling up longer fireroad sections I still feel the DHR II in maxxgrip rolls very good for what kind of bike I'm using. That's why I'm not going to step down in the front, that's just a no go. I do already own a set of Continental Trail King which was a big mistake in my eyes because they have just no bite to them at all for trail riding. If you hit a wet root it's game over. Those tires I'd rather say is aimed for perfect dry conditions in very light terrain.
im having the same problem right now so frustrating. im ready to throw the thing away
Thanks gorgeous the review👍
I have been thinking about a Dissector for my front as I've been converting a Trek Roscoe 8 to more of a X-Country bike and just switched the rear tire from a Specialized XR4 2.6 inch to a Maxxis Rekon Race 2.35. I appreciate your review. I know car tires being "old" have been a big issue in the last decade and there has been legislation to put manufacture dates on them. I wonder if you got an older one, but I bet it's more the conditions you ride in.
I've since switched to Forekaster 2.4 on the front and never been happier. DHR II on the rear still.
I just bought one and had not yet seen your video. I hope this doesn’t happen to mine…
You find it hard to shift on a xtr? 😂
Shifting on XTR is great with firm click, but Deore/SLX levers need half the pressure to shift. On a 2 hour technical trail where you're constantly shifting, my preference is the SLX lever. If you're going downhill, then you probably don't even need a shifter. ;)
Thanks for the tip! I recovered my audio file but I cannot read the file anymore (corrupted)
Thankyou so much 😊
Not worked
This is the problem with pretty much all modern road and mountain bike gear: The arms race between Shimano and SRAM has resulted in both of them trying to jam more and more features into the same tiny space / motion... while at the same time trying to reduce waste. We're already WAY past the point where the vast majority of users can really benefit from these continuous "improvements". Can we not just call it good and just focus on marginal gains in quality and ergonomics over time instead of trying to constantly "innovate" to the point where the systems are incompatible within a few years... vs "the good ol' days" when you could mix and match parts almost indefinitely.
Talk about an apprentice.
Get SLX you will like it
Phenomenal review thank you very much, will use your link to buy one! Thanks again
I was leery of Tikosyn and refused it for months. Finally, I was in the hospital for a throat infection, and the EP doctors convinced me to take it, since I was in the hospital anyway. The next morning, anxious (they try not to show it) doctors awakened me and said that the med was not right for me, and there was a dangerous delay of signals between chambers of my heart. I was in the hospital for 3 more days getting a magnesium drip. I survived the Tikosyn and an overdose of magnesium. I should have followed my instincts! It is good that it worked for you, though.
it did not work for me
Well XT is even harder to press. I love XTR feel, it is snappy and precise and not as hard to press like XT. Deore is sloppy and lack on instant release is no for me. But every person has it's own preferences so thanks to shimano for the choice :)
Super spitzen Video. Konnte sehr gut verstehen was du meinst. Ich schwanke schon die ganze Zeit, was ich nehme. Du hast mir sehr geholfen. Ich nehme dann doch die Deore. Ist ganz klar besser. Vielen Dank hierfür. ❤ Super great video. I could understand very well what you mean. I've been undecided about what to take all the time. You have helped me a lot. I'll take the Deore then. It's clearly better. Thank you very much for this. - Translated with Google.
Solution to your problem is to get a bar clamp version then position your lever at whatever angle and position you want. Also i cannot see any situation where you need to change down 4 gears at once... just read the trail better and do 2 at a time.
Dude you are complaining over some nonsense crap. Cringe rider so annoying
XT and XTR(ace) are for sportive racers. In a race you need more feedback from the shifters to feel always which gear you are running and no soft shifting. The shifters are especially made for that more poppy klick.
What are you riding conditions like? I ride mostly loamy forest conditions, average 30 miles per week riding year round. My riding style is more aggressive trail than downhill/enduro, with climbs and single track pedaling to get to the descent. The Dissector and the DHR II both last me about a season, until the middle paddles start rounding-out and slipping over roots and rocks when pedaling. The Dissector is nearly a 1/4lb lighter rotational mass, and less anchor draggy on climbs. I don't ride as fast and hard as a lot of other riders, so I don't really notice a compromise in braking traction or cornering with the Dissector.
I ride east-coast blue ridge mountain terrain with a good mix of roots, loose gravel, rock gardens, clay, sand, leaves, slabs. I've recently switched to Forekaster 2.0 EXO 3C 2.4 tire on the front and never been happier. Still DHR II 2.4 on my rear. Perfect combo for XC, downhill, and semi-enduro "fast" riding. I ride 40 miles MTB and 150+ miles road for a combined 200 miles/weekly.
Doesn't look normal shouldn't happen
how come i couldn't recover my videos when even I bought a pro version?
thanks for the info
Your complaints are valid for recreational riders. The reason the click is harder on XT and XTR is it has instant release - all the necessary cable is released when you press it. On Deore and SLX, half the required cable gets released on lever compression and half on lever release which is slower but requires less force. You obviously also have weaker/issues with your thumb so yes Deore/SLX is better for your circumstance. For those on XT/XTR shifters who want it a bit lighter, just back off the clutch tension a quarter turn and it'll be a lighter shift.
I don't race, but most of my 4,500 miles last year was on technical trails averaging 2 hours of constant shifting through black trails. My thumb gets a good workout but I do appreciate the lighter shifting lever of the SLX. Only reason I don't go electronic is because I deal with too many rock gardens - gets expensive with repairs.
@udtrader I have set up Shimano XT shifters for dozens of literal children who have never complained about this "hurting their thumb". Like it's fine you prefer Deore, makes total sense. But it's because you have a particularly aggrivated thumb. Having riddenw whatever X miles per year has no bearing on that, unless you're pedalling with your thumbs.
Nah, his complaint is valid. I've tried 2 new XT shifters, as I fought the first one was faulty, and they both were super stiff compared to a new Deore shifter. I don't have any issues with the thumbs, but after a while it can get tired if you use it a lot. It probably doesn't matter if you're riding downhill in the bike park and barely use the shifter, but on trails I started to become annoying from time to time. I do like the instant shifting a being able to go 2up with a single push tho.
@@vladgluhov2399 People who complain about the stiff shifter feel IME also have their clutch tension too high from factory. Do a quarter turn less tension on your clutch and XT/XTR feels more or less like a SRAM shifter in tension. Like I said, I have set up dozens of young children who ride XT shifters over long rides with no complaints.
@@lenolenoleno Doesn't have much to do with the clutch tension. Just off the bike XT shifter feels much stiffer compared to Deore. On the bike with same cable, derailleur and clutch tension Deore feels light, XT feels stiff. You're acting like people are lying to you for no reason, but I'm glad your experience was different I guess.
I found that I could extend the time before overheating from 25 minutes to more than 65 minutes by using rubber bands to hold a small damp (as moist as it can be without dripping) sponge onto the stock heat sink on the back of the Hero 11 Black Mini. Does GoPro sell a larger heat sink for this camera?
The R in XTR doesn’t stand for recreation my friend 👍
I got the Evo 256 select blue. I paid 12.00 on Amazon on sale. I really did get a good deal. It was less than 13usd after tax and delivered free. I'll have to order a couple more right quick
I hope I just ordered the correct one 😂. I only got a 256 for my phone. I thought it was cheap enough that I could upgrade and give the one I just got to my daughter.
Very helpful thanks for this vid! 👊🏼😁