There is a vid now showing the repainted BnB and there was a plant pot on the step which has been changed Did Jay cut his leg as he was bungled into the building Was Jay in that drug shop? Photo of feet wrapped in a blanket just showing hand smoking was Jay beaten up? It's only witness es and and heresay on much of it but why repaint after Jay reported missing?
@ZerHourСағат бұрын
Lets" keep it in the news " people say , then everyone does that and tries to offer ideas,posts comments ,then they get called trolls for just suggesting a theory ! The very people keeping it in the news Funny old world
@bettyboop51774 сағат бұрын
Interesting points made here. Thankyou 👍😊
@tara12345.7 сағат бұрын
They would all have burner phones
@paulaadcock-79707 сағат бұрын
When there's to many people that know about something? It's only a matter of time before it unravels and it's starting to
@andysimmo1007 сағат бұрын
Michelle after dark has maps etc and explains why
@delenashaw-fl1sh7 сағат бұрын
They need to speak to Lucy Brad and Brandon
@jamesfletcher3377 сағат бұрын
The somali guy is potter papers manager and runs his weed shop
@user-tr4fy3bd5r8 сағат бұрын
Also the woman of the airbnb is dodgy because you ha e to give a photo of passport . Clearly he disnt have to because he booked it in a different last name .
@Deborahboenke28 сағат бұрын
Yes I believe that he ripped some one off he got murdered
@francespindar10298 сағат бұрын
Did jay steal the watch out of desperation and use it as a bargaining chip against the debt for the drugs he'd used and lost . The two mollies are possibly the go between between jay and the provider of the drug debt or he's stolen a watch or drugs or money from the two at the abb to give to Lucy as payment for the money they owed for the drugs he lost because he was off his face . It was probably an impromptu spur of the moment decision because he knew his problem would still be facing him when he got back to his apartment .Resulting in him stealing off two dealers who had befriended him and put him up for the night to pay off dealers he owed money too. A decision he probably regretted as soon as he did it ,panicked and bolted . Not wanting to wait for a bus or walk a road he could be caught up on by car so in his messed up drugged fuelled scared frame of mind he took a beaten track a car carnt travel and he could hide . He's either been caught up with and buried in the ground or he's got lost either way in serious trouble .
@francespindar10299 сағат бұрын
If there was a Dead body the sniffer dogs would have found it plus . If he was there they would have found a scent and followed it in said location .. nadda nothing ??
@user-tr4fy3bd5r9 сағат бұрын
The flower on the steps in a pot .
@stefdoe84109 сағат бұрын
Oh wow, I lived near nuneaton.
@bungle17719 сағат бұрын
Its not rocket science,, Jay never charged his phone because He stole the Rolex from whoever was in the bedroom asleep were he was told to charge his phone, and made a sharp exit when someone came to the door,thats why he couldnt go back or wait for the bus,in case they came after him,,he ran off the main rd to hide and they found him and threw his phone away,, and ?????,,,,,,, I think the rapper was the 1 in the bedroom with the Rolex,He surely would be rich enough to own 1?
@atlanticblue26658 сағат бұрын
Justice for JAY 🙏 Jay may have been brutally attacked in the air bnb and recorded on video... An Urgent second 📍 forensic thorough tests need to be done of the air bnb, the shop and cafe upstairs, Ophelia the air bnb owners house which is joined to the air bnb, the garage near it, the buildings near it and nearby buildings, etc The nasty 📍video which came out last week on Lucy's 📍instagram.. of Jay being held by a man, whilst another man brutally punches ♦️Jay.. may have taken place in the air bnb... as the wall, colour and features strongly appear to be the inside of the air bnb... (or perhaps the building, garage, cafe or house that is next to the air bnb as they have very similar features). Neighbours of the air bnb near Masca heard lots of shouting.. some in arabic and people yelling.. and they heard lots of noises as if someone was being badly attacked. This may have been the drug bosses and others attacking Jay.. as seen on the nasty video.. Lucy and the others came to the air bnb early that morning of the 17.06.24 perhaps to watch the brutal attacks on Jay by different people. Lucy, Brad and the others returned to the air bnb area the following night around 2am.. Why did Lucy, Brad and the others return to the air bnb on the 18.06.24 at 2am ? Perhaps to continue watching the attacks on Jay .. Or perhaps the field nearby may be where they they put his body... Lucy, Brad's telephones pinged for a while near a field not too far from the sea port of Masca.. just a short drive from the air bnb. Perhaps Tom Hilton and his associates also attacked Jay, including Qassim and others. There are various men in the nasty video where one man is seen brutally punching Jay non stop. Jay seemd unconscious or drugged by them. A man is holding Jay whilst the other man punches him with severe passionate revenge... could it be Tom Hiton, his dad or his associates... It was very distressing and made me feel sick. (The features of the room in the video where Jay is brutally attacked are very similar to the air bnb). Check if there are any secret rooms, tunnels or connecting doors to the garage, house and buildings next to the air bnb. Locals say that there a tunnel 📍 in Masca quite near the air bnb that leads to other towns.. perhaps to Santiago de Teide.. Also some searchers have said they found two disturbing ABANDONED 📍HOMESTEADS in a ravine 📍 fairly near where Jay's telephone last pinged.. with eerie signs of life and black magic rituals.. shoe laces tied to twigs with strange signs, various water bottles and a set of women's clothes.. Perhaps Jay was later taken there for further attacks... and DNA can urgently be collected by private independent forensics. The dna of the people drinking the water bottles may be traced as Tenerife may have an online database of everyones dna.. The searchers say that it was scary .. they had to walk past 📍cactus that was above their heads and they needed ROPES 📍 to get there.. Around 4am - on the 17 June 2024 (Jay was attacked and stabbed by drug bosses on the beach.. they tied his hands behind his back with a 📍ROPE and the drug boss dressed in white on the right.. in the video.. took out a long 📍 ROPE and was swinging it aggressively in circles... As locals say that there is a 📍 tunnel near Masca.. perhaps there is an exit to the tunnel near the abandoned homesteads.. Jay's telephone last pinged where Qassim and the other two took the trophy photo smirking and standing on top of two white stone benches.. which is fairly near the ravine where the two abandoned homesteads are ... When the trophy photo was taken perhaps Jay was near it (alive or unalive..) The trophy photo seems to have some photoshop on the bottom left hand corner and it seems to be deleting half of a plastic bag.. Was Jay in that bag ? ... Drug bosses are unlikely to leave their drugs out in the open.. It was said that the photo was taken (20 or 📍21 June 2024 ) 4 days after Jay was taken which was the 17 June 2024 .. Could it be that they had finished attacking Jay and took the photo as proof and as a trophy to show their managers and others that they had done their ritual on Jay... LOOK at the black 📍 magic circle in black on the right side of the photo.. the left hand symbol looks like the cross of 📍 satan... I cannot find online the meaning of the right hand side symbol in the circle, does anyone know what it means ? Drug cartels are known to paint these symbols after a sacrifice.. Lucy and the others likely watched the torture of Jay. Interrogate Lucy, Brad, Brandon, Qassim, Tom Hilton and his dad until they speak the truth of what they did to Jay and where they put him. JUSTICE for JAY We pray that Jay is still alive ... God protect Jay 💛 🙏
@atlanticblue26658 сағат бұрын
Jay was set up by Lucy, Qassim the drug boss and others. Jay did not steal the rolex, he was set up and falsely accused as an excuse to kidnap him and hurt him...
@lynnmacdonald56549 сағат бұрын
LUCY knows the guys at the Air b and b.
@davidpepperrell68119 сағат бұрын
The reference to the flowers I believe are the flowers outside of the Airbnb, that helped Lucy track down the place Ayub was staying
@mandyrayner78348 минут бұрын
Lucy knew the guys
@lynnmacdonald56549 сағат бұрын
IMPORTANT There's another video from this same PI the reason Jay went the wrong way is if you are using an i phone it takes you up and around and I think it was like 21 hours you should be able too find a video where he shows this.
@user-tr4fy3bd5r9 сағат бұрын
I am from the UK same place as Jay... why as nobody picked up she rang 911 why is she in America ? Spain police emergency is 112
@bettyboop51775 сағат бұрын
It will still divert call to nearest emergency call centre apparently
@user-tr4fy3bd5r5 сағат бұрын
@@bettyboop5177 wow really I'm 53 and still learning about technology. Thats great .
@bettyboop51774 сағат бұрын
Chuckling 😊 me too lol.. I've seen a few comments from ppl who have all said this , I was pretty amazed too that any emergency services could be accessed still even if dialling different number to what the country states etc.. It's brilliant,,( if it is correct of course)
@user-tr4fy3bd5r4 сағат бұрын
@@bettyboop5177 amazing haha I still sometimes get sending a email wrong 😅
@chelled642910 сағат бұрын
Hey Sunny Have you noticed that in all her photos she either hides her face or wears a prop, I couldn't picture what this girl actually looks like. All pings from Jay's phone are near a road so not believing the I'm lost bit. The photo of matey on white road blocks is where I'd look, do you see lad in middle wearing a watch, he also could pass as Jay. I personally don't think he nicked a watch, I think it's very easy to blame or accuse someone who isn't around to defend themselves. The stop at cafe, was this matey cafe where he manages? That's the bit that stands out, just how far from bb was they? How thirsty can you be round the corner from bb.? Did they stop and do a pick up of gear or is this where Jay was disposed off or hidden.? Why has nobody even thought he could of been given something or maybe saw his drink being spiked by matey? Men spike men's drinks, Jay is a pretty boy.If you go back to party yet his mate goes straight to bed. Could Jay of been trafficked? Things people aren't even questioning. This case is full of lies when something doesn't make sense it ain't true!
@atlanticblue26658 сағат бұрын
Justice for JAY 🙏 Jay may have been brutally attacked in the air bnb and recorded on video... An Urgent second 📍 forensic thorough tests need to be done of the air bnb, the shop and cafe upstairs, Ophelia the air bnb owners house which is joined to the air bnb, the garage near it, the buildings near it and nearby buildings, etc The nasty 📍video which came out last week on Lucy's 📍instagram.. of Jay being held by a man, whilst another man brutally punches ♦️Jay.. may have taken place in the air bnb... as the wall, colour and features strongly appear to be the inside of the air bnb... (or perhaps the building, garage, cafe or house that is next to the air bnb as they have very similar features). Neighbours of the air bnb near Masca heard lots of shouting.. some in arabic and people yelling.. and they heard lots of noises as if someone was being badly attacked. This may have been the drug bosses and others attacking Jay.. as seen on the nasty video.. Lucy and the others came to the air bnb early that morning of the 17.06.24 perhaps to watch the brutal attacks on Jay by different people. Lucy, Brad and the others returned to the air bnb area the following night around 2am.. Why did Lucy, Brad and the others return to the air bnb on the 18.06.24 at 2am ? Perhaps to continue watching the attacks on Jay .. Or perhaps the field nearby may be where they they put his body... Lucy, Brad's telephones pinged for a while near a field not too far from the sea port of Masca.. just a short drive from the air bnb. Perhaps Tom Hilton and his associates also attacked Jay, including Qassim and others. There are various men in the nasty video where one man is seen brutally punching Jay non stop. Jay seemd unconscious or drugged by them. A man is holding Jay whilst the other man punches him with severe passionate revenge... could it be Tom Hiton, his dad or his associates... It was very distressing and made me feel sick. (The features of the room in the video where Jay is brutally attacked are very similar to the air bnb). Check if there are any secret rooms, tunnels or connecting doors to the garage, house and buildings next to the air bnb. Locals say that there a tunnel 📍 in Masca quite near the air bnb that leads to other towns.. perhaps to Santiago de Teide.. Also some searchers have said they found two disturbing ABANDONED 📍HOMESTEADS in a ravine 📍 fairly near where Jay's telephone last pinged.. with eerie signs of life and black magic rituals.. shoe laces tied to twigs with strange signs, various water bottles and a set of women's clothes.. Perhaps Jay was later taken there for further attacks... and DNA can urgently be collected by private independent forensics. The dna of the people drinking the water bottles may be traced as Tenerife may have an online database of everyones dna.. The searchers say that it was scary .. they had to walk past 📍cactus that was above their heads and they needed ROPES 📍 to get there.. Around 4am - on the 17 June 2024 (Jay was attacked and stabbed by drug bosses on the beach.. they tied his hands behind his back with a 📍ROPE and the drug boss dressed in white on the right.. in the video.. took out a long 📍 ROPE and was swinging it aggressively in circles... As locals say that there is a 📍 tunnel near Masca.. perhaps there is an exit to the tunnel near the abandoned homesteads.. Jay's telephone last pinged where Qassim and the other two took the trophy photo smirking and standing on top of two white stone benches.. which is fairly near the ravine where the two abandoned homesteads are ... When the trophy photo was taken perhaps Jay was near it (alive or unalive..) The trophy photo seems to have some photoshop on the bottom left hand corner and it seems to be deleting half of a plastic bag.. Was Jay in that bag ? ... Drug bosses are unlikely to leave their drugs out in the open.. It was said that the photo was taken (20 or 📍21 June 2024 ) 4 days after Jay was taken which was the 17 June 2024 .. Could it be that they had finished attacking Jay and took the photo as proof and as a trophy to show their managers and others that they had done their ritual on Jay... LOOK at the black 📍 magic circle in black on the right side of the photo.. the left hand symbol looks like the cross of 📍 satan... I cannot find online the meaning of the right hand side symbol in the circle, does anyone know what it means ? Drug cartels are known to paint these symbols after a sacrifice.. Lucy and the others likely watched the torture of Jay. Interrogate Lucy, Brad, Brandon, Qassim, Tom Hilton and his dad until they speak the truth of what they did to Jay and where they put him. JUSTICE for JAY We pray that Jay is still alive ... God protect Jay 💛 🙏
@chelled64298 сағат бұрын
That video has been debunked as its years old, I'm not sure if he made it back to bb the person the owner spoke to could easily be the guy in middle of that photo, there is no actual proof that he made it to the bb that has been shown, he's phoned pinged but how do we know Jay had his phone, we don't, Abdul was sentenced for 9years don't know how many years he actually served as he was sentenced in 2015 when he was just 22years old, this man is picking up where he left of, using young people to run his gear, if Lucy was doing this there is noway she will ever grass Abdul ain't going to happen, Abdul is part of a larger London gang operating County lines so nobody gonna be talking anytime soon
@karlholmes1210 сағат бұрын
The only person to mention the cactus story was lucy .. ayub says a friend of jays rang him saying jay was in a ditch and cut by a cactus .. so that friend had to be lucy .. but lucy says she tracked jay down by the photo of the B&B 🤷♂️ make it make sense
@notty88811 сағат бұрын
What if Jay never had his phone at the time of his last ping. That would mean he was never there. I would go back and ask witnesses if anyone saw Jay and any problems at the do? They could have staged him being at the B&B all in it to win it I think
@richiemelo264911 сағат бұрын
That photo contains a message the 3 monkeys 🙈🙊🙈 look properly
@gran2Finlay11 сағат бұрын
Those 2 young guys were watching jay at the rave one had a yellow t shirt on one had blue a think they are in one of the photos
@paulabound705011 сағат бұрын
That photo of the 3 of them does looks like a skit of the 3 wise monkey speak npo evil, see no evil, ear no evil.
@paulabound705011 сағат бұрын
I the guy with the cigarette is apparently someone who goes by the name Rocky from East London.
@realreggaelutionrecords11 сағат бұрын
Here There and Everywhere is from the Album - Revolver-Revolvers are types of Gun .
@richiemelo264911 сағат бұрын
He went to the opposite way on purpose to deceive them, why?! Because something went wrong on the Airbnb, they found him and kill him, since the beginning I’m telling this, was sweet convict and others one, n Lucy works for them drug 🐄
@bettyboop517712 сағат бұрын
Ppl are misinterpreted words, ppl saying Lucy lied as she has said Jay didn't have his phone, she meant Jay battery was flat. Now they doing the same with air bnb man over him using the words where my friend was sleeping, to me that can also mean the ROOM where his friend is staying in, not meaning actually laid in bed sleepjng! Hope this makes sense...p.s. I do hope he's found safe , I still have hope 🙏
@atlanticblue26658 сағат бұрын
They did not sleep, Qassim the drug boss and others brutally attacked Jay in the air bnb... Justice for JAY 🙏 Jay may have been brutally attacked in the air bnb and recorded on video... An Urgent second 📍 forensic thorough tests need to be done of the air bnb, the shop and cafe upstairs, Ophelia the air bnb owners house which is joined to the air bnb, the garage near it, the buildings near it and nearby buildings, etc The nasty 📍video which came out last week on Lucy's 📍instagram.. of Jay being held by a man, whilst another man brutally punches ♦️Jay.. may have taken place in the air bnb... as the wall, colour and features strongly appear to be the inside of the air bnb... (or perhaps the building, garage, cafe or house that is next to the air bnb as they have very similar features). Neighbours of the air bnb near Masca heard lots of shouting.. some in arabic and people yelling.. and they heard lots of noises as if someone was being badly attacked. This may have been the drug bosses and others attacking Jay.. as seen on the nasty video.. Lucy and the others came to the air bnb early that morning of the 17.06.24 perhaps to watch the brutal attacks on Jay by different people. Lucy, Brad and the others returned to the air bnb area the following night around 2am.. Why did Lucy, Brad and the others return to the air bnb on the 18.06.24 at 2am ? Perhaps to continue watching the attacks on Jay .. Or perhaps the field nearby may be where they they put his body... Lucy, Brad's telephones pinged for a while near a field not too far from the sea port of Masca.. just a short drive from the air bnb. Perhaps Tom Hilton and his associates also attacked Jay, including Qassim and others. There are various men in the nasty video where one man is seen brutally punching Jay non stop. Jay seemd unconscious or drugged by them. A man is holding Jay whilst the other man punches him with severe passionate revenge... could it be Tom Hiton, his dad or his associates... It was very distressing and made me feel sick. (The features of the room in the video where Jay is brutally attacked are very similar to the air bnb). Check if there are any secret rooms, tunnels or connecting doors to the garage, house and buildings next to the air bnb. Locals say that there a tunnel 📍 in Masca quite near the air bnb that leads to other towns.. perhaps to Santiago de Teide.. Also some searchers have said they found two disturbing ABANDONED 📍HOMESTEADS in a ravine 📍 fairly near where Jay's telephone last pinged.. with eerie signs of life and black magic rituals.. shoe laces tied to twigs with strange signs, various water bottles and a set of women's clothes.. Perhaps Jay was later taken there for further attacks... and DNA can urgently be collected by private independent forensics. The dna of the people drinking the water bottles may be traced as Tenerife may have an online database of everyones dna.. The searchers say that it was scary .. they had to walk past 📍cactus that was above their heads and they needed ROPES 📍 to get there.. Around 4am - on the 17 June 2024 (Jay was attacked and stabbed by drug bosses on the beach.. they tied his hands behind his back with a 📍ROPE and the drug boss dressed in white on the right.. in the video.. took out a long 📍 ROPE and was swinging it aggressively in circles... As locals say that there is a 📍 tunnel near Masca.. perhaps there is an exit to the tunnel near the abandoned homesteads.. Jay's telephone last pinged where Qassim and the other two took the trophy photo smirking and standing on top of two white stone benches.. which is fairly near the ravine where the two abandoned homesteads are ... When the trophy photo was taken perhaps Jay was near it (alive or unalive..) The trophy photo seems to have some photoshop on the bottom left hand corner and it seems to be deleting half of a plastic bag.. Was Jay in that bag ? ... Drug bosses are unlikely to leave their drugs out in the open.. It was said that the photo was taken (20 or 📍21 June 2024 ) 4 days after Jay was taken which was the 17 June 2024 .. Could it be that they had finished attacking Jay and took the photo as proof and as a trophy to show their managers and others that they had done their ritual on Jay... LOOK at the black 📍 magic circle in black on the right side of the photo.. the left hand symbol looks like the cross of 📍 satan... I cannot find online the meaning of the right hand side symbol in the circle, does anyone know what it means ? Drug cartels are known to paint these symbols after a sacrifice.. Lucy and the others likely watched the torture of Jay. Interrogate Lucy, Brad, Brandon, Qassim, Tom Hilton and his dad until they speak the truth of what they did to Jay and where they put him. JUSTICE for JAY We pray that Jay is still alive ... God protect Jay 💛 🙏
@bettyboop51773 сағат бұрын
😮😮😮😮😮 I'm disturbed , really disturbed.. I do hope this isn't true , poor Jay and his mum, his dad, his family 😥😥😥..🙏
@gillianmaxted185612 сағат бұрын
I actually checked how many raptures live on Tenerife due to it being a volcanic Island. What I found was the Egyptian vulture perhaps at this time probably have died out, the other rapturesare either small or in 2020 numbers were bring depleted due to poison, power lines etc. So looking for birds would be obvious if there were resident vultures and the terriein would be flattish, but if there are very few in mountainous terrain no one would notice.
@Beautifulpeople4412 сағат бұрын
Another theory could be that Jay was trafficked away from the island.. that would be a crazy turn of events but I do believe he was taken care of by PP and AQ
@chelled642910 сағат бұрын
This is something I believe could be possible he's a pretty lad and if he was a woman we would all be thinking this
@atlanticblue26658 сағат бұрын
Justice for JAY 🙏 Jay may have been brutally attacked in the air bnb and recorded on video... An Urgent second 📍 forensic thorough tests need to be done of the air bnb, the shop and cafe upstairs, Ophelia the air bnb owners house which is joined to the air bnb, the garage near it, the buildings near it and nearby buildings, etc The nasty 📍video which came out last week on Lucy's 📍instagram.. of Jay being held by a man, whilst another man brutally punches ♦️Jay.. may have taken place in the air bnb... as the wall, colour and features strongly appear to be the inside of the air bnb... (or perhaps the building, garage, cafe or house that is next to the air bnb as they have very similar features). Neighbours of the air bnb near Masca heard lots of shouting.. some in arabic and people yelling.. and they heard lots of noises as if someone was being badly attacked. This may have been the drug bosses and others attacking Jay.. as seen on the nasty video.. Lucy and the others came to the air bnb early that morning of the 17.06.24 perhaps to watch the brutal attacks on Jay by different people. Lucy, Brad and the others returned to the air bnb area the following night around 2am.. Why did Lucy, Brad and the others return to the air bnb on the 18.06.24 at 2am ? Perhaps to continue watching the attacks on Jay .. Or perhaps the field nearby may be where they they put his body... Lucy, Brad's telephones pinged for a while near a field not too far from the sea port of Masca.. just a short drive from the air bnb. Perhaps Tom Hilton and his associates also attacked Jay, including Qassim and others. There are various men in the nasty video where one man is seen brutally punching Jay non stop. Jay seemd unconscious or drugged by them. A man is holding Jay whilst the other man punches him with severe passionate revenge... could it be Tom Hiton, his dad or his associates... It was very distressing and made me feel sick. (The features of the room in the video where Jay is brutally attacked are very similar to the air bnb). Check if there are any secret rooms, tunnels or connecting doors to the garage, house and buildings next to the air bnb. Locals say that there a tunnel 📍 in Masca quite near the air bnb that leads to other towns.. perhaps to Santiago de Teide.. Also some searchers have said they found two disturbing ABANDONED 📍HOMESTEADS in a ravine 📍 fairly near where Jay's telephone last pinged.. with eerie signs of life and black magic rituals.. shoe laces tied to twigs with strange signs, various water bottles and a set of women's clothes.. Perhaps Jay was later taken there for further attacks... and DNA can urgently be collected by private independent forensics. The dna of the people drinking the water bottles may be traced as Tenerife may have an online database of everyones dna.. The searchers say that it was scary .. they had to walk past 📍cactus that was above their heads and they needed ROPES 📍 to get there.. Around 4am - on the 17 June 2024 (Jay was attacked and stabbed by drug bosses on the beach.. they tied his hands behind his back with a 📍ROPE and the drug boss dressed in white on the right.. in the video.. took out a long 📍 ROPE and was swinging it aggressively in circles... As locals say that there is a 📍 tunnel near Masca.. perhaps there is an exit to the tunnel near the abandoned homesteads.. Jay's telephone last pinged where Qassim and the other two took the trophy photo smirking and standing on top of two white stone benches.. which is fairly near the ravine where the two abandoned homesteads are ... When the trophy photo was taken perhaps Jay was near it (alive or unalive..) The trophy photo seems to have some photoshop on the bottom left hand corner and it seems to be deleting half of a plastic bag.. Was Jay in that bag ? ... Drug bosses are unlikely to leave their drugs out in the open.. It was said that the photo was taken (20 or 📍21 June 2024 ) 4 days after Jay was taken which was the 17 June 2024 .. Could it be that they had finished attacking Jay and took the photo as proof and as a trophy to show their managers and others that they had done their ritual on Jay... LOOK at the black 📍 magic circle in black on the right side of the photo.. the left hand symbol looks like the cross of 📍 satan... I cannot find online the meaning of the right hand side symbol in the circle, does anyone know what it means ? Drug cartels are known to paint these symbols after a sacrifice.. Lucy and the others likely watched the torture of Jay. Interrogate Lucy, Brad, Brandon, Qassim, Tom Hilton and his dad until they speak the truth of what they did to Jay and where they put him. JUSTICE for JAY We pray that Jay is still alive ... God protect Jay 💛 🙏
@Beautifulpeople447 сағат бұрын
@@chelled6429 absolutely 👍🏽
@alfiejay1612 сағат бұрын
I believe he was set up it was either drugs the watch or what he did in passed the men know what happened b and b they hurt him or someone has taken him brad lucy know something look at there interviews lies
@Beautifulpeople4413 сағат бұрын
JV is PP… he pretty much untouchable
@katharinamurray923713 сағат бұрын
So much does not make sense. They are all involved in shady business which plays a significant role in Jay's disappearance. It is so great you are sticking with this case Sunny❤ I love your channel. I am sorry I missed your Live😢. Catching up now...Thank you. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪
@Beautifulpeople4413 сағат бұрын
Jay was kidnapped by a well known rapper who I listen to… Potter Payper. Jay stole the watch from the rapper so him and his best mate Ayub Q took him. I believe it was AQ who sent the message to Jays mom that day. If I’m right, Jay will be fish food now because potter don’t mess. This is all IMO of course. And rappers usually rap about violence they have committed and add clues to who they rap about so PP will in time say something in a track he makes in the future about Jay if he’s involved. Bet the Spanish cops were paid off ..
@gillianmaxted185612 сағат бұрын
If your friend is asleep, what would your friend think/do if he should wake up to a total stranger rummaging through his bedroom?
@atlanticblue26658 сағат бұрын
Jay was set up by Lucy and Qassim the drug boss and others. Jay did not steal the rolex, they falsely accused Jay as an excuse to kidnap Jay and hurt him...
@Dabmonger13 сағат бұрын
A creator on TT, could've been littlemissvodka, shows on a map where she's geolocated the guys to be when they're standing on the cinder blocks. She suggests that the video could've been recorded on the way to the Airbnb, just before Masca. Could this have been videoed on that very morning? Who was recording the video? They did apparently stop for drinks on the morning of the 17th. Just something to bear in mind, but there's the issue of Jay being seen by Ofelia, plus Jay talking sending his location during a phone call on that path near the road.
@atlanticblue26658 сағат бұрын
There is nowhere to stop for a drink at a public place at 5am in Tenerife. They may have stopped in someone's house or in the middle of the road .. likely to discuss the harm they were going to do to Jay..
@Dabmonger13 сағат бұрын
I get the feeling that breaking one these characters is going to prove more fruitful than trying to find Jay in the mountains.
@Dabmonger14 сағат бұрын
I think there's an explanation as to why Jay was laughing with Brad, and moments later was having a very unpleasant phone call with Lucy. Jay's circumstances hadn't changed, but the person who he was talking with had. Brad likely didn't want to tell Jay he'd just been an idiot, and perhaps he actually found it all to be really great ... but Lucy, who's been part of the scene out there, and had time to sober up, no doubt screamed at him for effing up. No wonder Lucy, on her GFM wording, was emphasising that she went home early, and was distancing herself from Jay in the text. And perhaps the quickly arranged GFM was to raise money in the hope that paying money to these guys could get Jay back.
@atlanticblue26658 сағат бұрын
Jay had already been stabbed, badly attacked and perhaps unalived when traitor Lucy started the go fund me. Lucy and the drug bosses want money at any costs even if they have to hurt someone. Lucy and the drug bosses lack human moral values, dignity and are not human.
@Dabmonger14 сағат бұрын
There's the possibility that Jay stole the watch that he'd just sold, along with drugs and cash. Perhaps Ofelia needing the car to be moved brought disaster upon Jay. Ayub perhaps trusted him and was about to find out what Jay had just done ...
@Beautifulpeople4413 сағат бұрын
What if the old lady knocked him down by accident and had help to get rid of him. She did say she seen him again later on a bend in the road when she was driving
@Dabmonger13 сағат бұрын
@Beautifulpeople44 I actually thought about this possibility near the beginning of all this, and it's still a possibility. When Reece Rodger went missing in Scotland last year, I thought something similar. But given all the rest that we know in this case, it does seem that Lucy and co. are hiding what Jay did ... but we have to keep an open mind to all the various possibilities.
@Beautifulpeople4412 сағат бұрын
@@Dabmonger absolutely 👍🏽 🙏🏽
@Dabmonger14 сағат бұрын
I think the reason for mentioning that on the left is the downstairs bedroom (in the Airbnb), is because it would appear that as you go in the door there will be the option of going left into the bedroom and going up the stairs to the other bedroom.
@Dabmonger14 сағат бұрын
Not sure if this has been covered by yourself Sunny, but in the background of one of those two photos of Ayub sitting in the bar/club, there are guys in white t-shirts wearing black crossbody sling bags, just like Jay was wearing. Perhaps a uniform for these workers, or is it just a latest fashion?
@orlalolo45856 сағат бұрын
It is fashion but mostly wore by dealers ,once dealers started wearing it regular ppl stopped, I see the weed dealers where I live use them too ,an I'm in Ireland so i guess it is a dealers uniform in Europe lol
@ellenlyons4090Күн бұрын
Was that J at the Airbnb could it have been Brad. Would the woman know Jay. Could have been walking up the mountain to make phone calls so there would be a ping from up there. Could have thrown phone. Has the Cannabis cafe been checked it was said to have been broken in to and smashed up so would be a good cover if Jay was taken there first. Beaten and then en route to Airbnb hidden. There are tunnels under the mountain on the road leading to Masca. Anyone could have posed for that picture holding jays lighter and wearing his shoes. How did Lucy know to ring Ayub ? Didn’t they say they were guys just hanging round them. Why then would you have his phone number. Has the hired car been searched for forensics. I don’t buy any of their stories. It’s all contrived. And why doesn’t Brandon figure very much in this story. That tic tock guy has just shot down the lie Jay went to buy cigarettes he said nothing opens till ten o clock . Why would Ayub who is said to run the cannabis cafe rent an Airbnb 30 miles away in Masca . Surly he would have accommodation near to his place of work. If Jay was even there I think he left whilst they were sleeping going in the oppersit direction rather than the expected direction down to Los Christanos. Did Ayub call Lucy at 8 o clock for her to call Jay and get his location. They had a car they could have gone to find him. And brought him back for that matter they could have dealt with him there. None of what they’re saying is making sense. Have the Spanish police contacted all the people involved phone providers to get the details from their phones. I can’t understand why Jays parents haven’t contacted British police and asked them to get involved. They then would have a valid reason to question all the players involved. Why is the British consul not putting pressure on the Spanish police . Nothing about this is ringing true. Has this been cooked up to get the money for lost bag. Will Jay turn up injured but alive or is unalived well hidden and never be found.
@garbancitolentejas48622 сағат бұрын
This 70 yo woman have eyes too .. and certainly brad's face and Jay's face look nothing alike... nothing at all... and as Jay's photos have been published and seen ad infinitum... had she had the wrong identity she would have reported it a long time ago. f there is one thing Guardia Civil (and British Police) are sure of, it is that Jay was in Masca without a shadow of a doubt.
@Timeflys369Күн бұрын
Jonny Vegas is in Malta he has a Canadian accent,Lucys last place she went before Tenerife was Malta....just a coincidence or not???
@spindarellaКүн бұрын
I have been saying this, that's not Johnny Vegas , Johnny Vegas is a whole different person and in my mind has more to do with this case and that's why they protecting him.
@DB-a-Boeing-DrКүн бұрын
Paul ( down the Rapids) has been caught in a number of lies. He has not been searching and he was offered climbing gear after he said he was a experienced climber but did not have gear and he turned it down. A mountain climbing group invited Paul to join them, he turned them down. Scottish Mountain Rescue said they have not been approached or talked to anyone regarding a Jay Slater search. His Go Fund Me was suspended then was reinstated after the description was changed as to its purpose, there is now no mention of Jay Slater or putting together a search group. He has been supplied with food and clothes for a number of weeks but has put out a video of him begging for bread to eat. Do not donate money to this person, if you want to donate please donate to the family.
@rhodacashmanbrownbrown2390Күн бұрын
On the video where they are standing on the walls.look at there trainers.they are blue jay had black ones on at the door having a cig.
@lorrainek1122Күн бұрын
When im asleep i put my phone on silent as im sure most people do, but he got a call from a friend why he couldn't of give the friend directions to the property on the phone instead of Lucy searching for it via photo information. Even though she knew exactly were it was. Mark is cleverly repeating all the contradicting crap he being told and he definitely knows it is all garbage knowing people will see through it and some will come forward knowing more information or slip up. Hes taking on board all the info leaking on line and following up on it quietly. He know what he's doing and he's a man with a plan😉
@CherDavis-pk5snКүн бұрын
Yes, it's Mark saying Ayub is Johnny Vegas. They are two seperate people!! Ayub is the one guy and 'Jonny Vegas' the other guy.
@lostbeyond9Күн бұрын
Yeah really annoying when the media gets this wrong. Its not hard to find the other on instagram.
@ellenlyons4090Күн бұрын
Mark said he knew the identity of the other guy but wasn’t releasing it. I wonder if he’s been threatened because he left Tenerife pretty quickly. Unless he comes back here to dig into this end of the county lines operating from this end.
@DabmongerКүн бұрын
Once we discovered Jay's location where he'd been talking with Lucy, it just proved her story to be nonsense. It's like someone, possibly Jay himself, took the phone to that spot in order to create this story that he was lost in the cactus "jungle", including having been pricked by a cactus. The big issue with this story is that Jay just wasn't far enough from the road & path to be lost, and be amongst the cacti. A story has been created to cover the real story, and then a further story told for the GFM page. No wonder Lucy didn't seem concerned about Jay in the GFM, as she already knew that he was okay, or otherwise.
@reecesimpson1072Күн бұрын
If you google *masca* translated to English it means to hide / disguise.. coincidence?
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There is a vid now showing the repainted BnB and there was a plant pot on the step which has been changed Did Jay cut his leg as he was bungled into the building Was Jay in that drug shop? Photo of feet wrapped in a blanket just showing hand smoking was Jay beaten up? It's only witness es and and heresay on much of it but why repaint after Jay reported missing?
Lets" keep it in the news " people say , then everyone does that and tries to offer ideas,posts comments ,then they get called trolls for just suggesting a theory ! The very people keeping it in the news Funny old world
Interesting points made here. Thankyou 👍😊
They would all have burner phones
When there's to many people that know about something? It's only a matter of time before it unravels and it's starting to
Michelle after dark has maps etc and explains why
They need to speak to Lucy Brad and Brandon
The somali guy is potter papers manager and runs his weed shop
Also the woman of the airbnb is dodgy because you ha e to give a photo of passport . Clearly he disnt have to because he booked it in a different last name .
Yes I believe that he ripped some one off he got murdered
Did jay steal the watch out of desperation and use it as a bargaining chip against the debt for the drugs he'd used and lost . The two mollies are possibly the go between between jay and the provider of the drug debt or he's stolen a watch or drugs or money from the two at the abb to give to Lucy as payment for the money they owed for the drugs he lost because he was off his face . It was probably an impromptu spur of the moment decision because he knew his problem would still be facing him when he got back to his apartment .Resulting in him stealing off two dealers who had befriended him and put him up for the night to pay off dealers he owed money too. A decision he probably regretted as soon as he did it ,panicked and bolted . Not wanting to wait for a bus or walk a road he could be caught up on by car so in his messed up drugged fuelled scared frame of mind he took a beaten track a car carnt travel and he could hide . He's either been caught up with and buried in the ground or he's got lost either way in serious trouble .
If there was a Dead body the sniffer dogs would have found it plus . If he was there they would have found a scent and followed it in said location .. nadda nothing ??
The flower on the steps in a pot .
Oh wow, I lived near nuneaton.
Its not rocket science,, Jay never charged his phone because He stole the Rolex from whoever was in the bedroom asleep were he was told to charge his phone, and made a sharp exit when someone came to the door,thats why he couldnt go back or wait for the bus,in case they came after him,,he ran off the main rd to hide and they found him and threw his phone away,, and ?????,,,,,,, I think the rapper was the 1 in the bedroom with the Rolex,He surely would be rich enough to own 1?
Justice for JAY 🙏 Jay may have been brutally attacked in the air bnb and recorded on video... An Urgent second 📍 forensic thorough tests need to be done of the air bnb, the shop and cafe upstairs, Ophelia the air bnb owners house which is joined to the air bnb, the garage near it, the buildings near it and nearby buildings, etc The nasty 📍video which came out last week on Lucy's 📍instagram.. of Jay being held by a man, whilst another man brutally punches ♦️Jay.. may have taken place in the air bnb... as the wall, colour and features strongly appear to be the inside of the air bnb... (or perhaps the building, garage, cafe or house that is next to the air bnb as they have very similar features). Neighbours of the air bnb near Masca heard lots of shouting.. some in arabic and people yelling.. and they heard lots of noises as if someone was being badly attacked. This may have been the drug bosses and others attacking Jay.. as seen on the nasty video.. Lucy and the others came to the air bnb early that morning of the 17.06.24 perhaps to watch the brutal attacks on Jay by different people. Lucy, Brad and the others returned to the air bnb area the following night around 2am.. Why did Lucy, Brad and the others return to the air bnb on the 18.06.24 at 2am ? Perhaps to continue watching the attacks on Jay .. Or perhaps the field nearby may be where they they put his body... Lucy, Brad's telephones pinged for a while near a field not too far from the sea port of Masca.. just a short drive from the air bnb. Perhaps Tom Hilton and his associates also attacked Jay, including Qassim and others. There are various men in the nasty video where one man is seen brutally punching Jay non stop. Jay seemd unconscious or drugged by them. A man is holding Jay whilst the other man punches him with severe passionate revenge... could it be Tom Hiton, his dad or his associates... It was very distressing and made me feel sick. (The features of the room in the video where Jay is brutally attacked are very similar to the air bnb). Check if there are any secret rooms, tunnels or connecting doors to the garage, house and buildings next to the air bnb. Locals say that there a tunnel 📍 in Masca quite near the air bnb that leads to other towns.. perhaps to Santiago de Teide.. Also some searchers have said they found two disturbing ABANDONED 📍HOMESTEADS in a ravine 📍 fairly near where Jay's telephone last pinged.. with eerie signs of life and black magic rituals.. shoe laces tied to twigs with strange signs, various water bottles and a set of women's clothes.. Perhaps Jay was later taken there for further attacks... and DNA can urgently be collected by private independent forensics. The dna of the people drinking the water bottles may be traced as Tenerife may have an online database of everyones dna.. The searchers say that it was scary .. they had to walk past 📍cactus that was above their heads and they needed ROPES 📍 to get there.. Around 4am - on the 17 June 2024 (Jay was attacked and stabbed by drug bosses on the beach.. they tied his hands behind his back with a 📍ROPE and the drug boss dressed in white on the right.. in the video.. took out a long 📍 ROPE and was swinging it aggressively in circles... As locals say that there is a 📍 tunnel near Masca.. perhaps there is an exit to the tunnel near the abandoned homesteads.. Jay's telephone last pinged where Qassim and the other two took the trophy photo smirking and standing on top of two white stone benches.. which is fairly near the ravine where the two abandoned homesteads are ... When the trophy photo was taken perhaps Jay was near it (alive or unalive..) The trophy photo seems to have some photoshop on the bottom left hand corner and it seems to be deleting half of a plastic bag.. Was Jay in that bag ? ... Drug bosses are unlikely to leave their drugs out in the open.. It was said that the photo was taken (20 or 📍21 June 2024 ) 4 days after Jay was taken which was the 17 June 2024 .. Could it be that they had finished attacking Jay and took the photo as proof and as a trophy to show their managers and others that they had done their ritual on Jay... LOOK at the black 📍 magic circle in black on the right side of the photo.. the left hand symbol looks like the cross of 📍 satan... I cannot find online the meaning of the right hand side symbol in the circle, does anyone know what it means ? Drug cartels are known to paint these symbols after a sacrifice.. Lucy and the others likely watched the torture of Jay. Interrogate Lucy, Brad, Brandon, Qassim, Tom Hilton and his dad until they speak the truth of what they did to Jay and where they put him. JUSTICE for JAY We pray that Jay is still alive ... God protect Jay 💛 🙏
Jay was set up by Lucy, Qassim the drug boss and others. Jay did not steal the rolex, he was set up and falsely accused as an excuse to kidnap him and hurt him...
LUCY knows the guys at the Air b and b.
The reference to the flowers I believe are the flowers outside of the Airbnb, that helped Lucy track down the place Ayub was staying
Lucy knew the guys
IMPORTANT There's another video from this same PI the reason Jay went the wrong way is if you are using an i phone it takes you up and around and I think it was like 21 hours you should be able too find a video where he shows this.
I am from the UK same place as Jay... why as nobody picked up she rang 911 why is she in America ? Spain police emergency is 112
It will still divert call to nearest emergency call centre apparently
@@bettyboop5177 wow really I'm 53 and still learning about technology. Thats great .
Chuckling 😊 me too lol.. I've seen a few comments from ppl who have all said this , I was pretty amazed too that any emergency services could be accessed still even if dialling different number to what the country states etc.. It's brilliant,,( if it is correct of course)
@@bettyboop5177 amazing haha I still sometimes get sending a email wrong 😅
Hey Sunny Have you noticed that in all her photos she either hides her face or wears a prop, I couldn't picture what this girl actually looks like. All pings from Jay's phone are near a road so not believing the I'm lost bit. The photo of matey on white road blocks is where I'd look, do you see lad in middle wearing a watch, he also could pass as Jay. I personally don't think he nicked a watch, I think it's very easy to blame or accuse someone who isn't around to defend themselves. The stop at cafe, was this matey cafe where he manages? That's the bit that stands out, just how far from bb was they? How thirsty can you be round the corner from bb.? Did they stop and do a pick up of gear or is this where Jay was disposed off or hidden.? Why has nobody even thought he could of been given something or maybe saw his drink being spiked by matey? Men spike men's drinks, Jay is a pretty boy.If you go back to party yet his mate goes straight to bed. Could Jay of been trafficked? Things people aren't even questioning. This case is full of lies when something doesn't make sense it ain't true!
Justice for JAY 🙏 Jay may have been brutally attacked in the air bnb and recorded on video... An Urgent second 📍 forensic thorough tests need to be done of the air bnb, the shop and cafe upstairs, Ophelia the air bnb owners house which is joined to the air bnb, the garage near it, the buildings near it and nearby buildings, etc The nasty 📍video which came out last week on Lucy's 📍instagram.. of Jay being held by a man, whilst another man brutally punches ♦️Jay.. may have taken place in the air bnb... as the wall, colour and features strongly appear to be the inside of the air bnb... (or perhaps the building, garage, cafe or house that is next to the air bnb as they have very similar features). Neighbours of the air bnb near Masca heard lots of shouting.. some in arabic and people yelling.. and they heard lots of noises as if someone was being badly attacked. This may have been the drug bosses and others attacking Jay.. as seen on the nasty video.. Lucy and the others came to the air bnb early that morning of the 17.06.24 perhaps to watch the brutal attacks on Jay by different people. Lucy, Brad and the others returned to the air bnb area the following night around 2am.. Why did Lucy, Brad and the others return to the air bnb on the 18.06.24 at 2am ? Perhaps to continue watching the attacks on Jay .. Or perhaps the field nearby may be where they they put his body... Lucy, Brad's telephones pinged for a while near a field not too far from the sea port of Masca.. just a short drive from the air bnb. Perhaps Tom Hilton and his associates also attacked Jay, including Qassim and others. There are various men in the nasty video where one man is seen brutally punching Jay non stop. Jay seemd unconscious or drugged by them. A man is holding Jay whilst the other man punches him with severe passionate revenge... could it be Tom Hiton, his dad or his associates... It was very distressing and made me feel sick. (The features of the room in the video where Jay is brutally attacked are very similar to the air bnb). Check if there are any secret rooms, tunnels or connecting doors to the garage, house and buildings next to the air bnb. Locals say that there a tunnel 📍 in Masca quite near the air bnb that leads to other towns.. perhaps to Santiago de Teide.. Also some searchers have said they found two disturbing ABANDONED 📍HOMESTEADS in a ravine 📍 fairly near where Jay's telephone last pinged.. with eerie signs of life and black magic rituals.. shoe laces tied to twigs with strange signs, various water bottles and a set of women's clothes.. Perhaps Jay was later taken there for further attacks... and DNA can urgently be collected by private independent forensics. The dna of the people drinking the water bottles may be traced as Tenerife may have an online database of everyones dna.. The searchers say that it was scary .. they had to walk past 📍cactus that was above their heads and they needed ROPES 📍 to get there.. Around 4am - on the 17 June 2024 (Jay was attacked and stabbed by drug bosses on the beach.. they tied his hands behind his back with a 📍ROPE and the drug boss dressed in white on the right.. in the video.. took out a long 📍 ROPE and was swinging it aggressively in circles... As locals say that there is a 📍 tunnel near Masca.. perhaps there is an exit to the tunnel near the abandoned homesteads.. Jay's telephone last pinged where Qassim and the other two took the trophy photo smirking and standing on top of two white stone benches.. which is fairly near the ravine where the two abandoned homesteads are ... When the trophy photo was taken perhaps Jay was near it (alive or unalive..) The trophy photo seems to have some photoshop on the bottom left hand corner and it seems to be deleting half of a plastic bag.. Was Jay in that bag ? ... Drug bosses are unlikely to leave their drugs out in the open.. It was said that the photo was taken (20 or 📍21 June 2024 ) 4 days after Jay was taken which was the 17 June 2024 .. Could it be that they had finished attacking Jay and took the photo as proof and as a trophy to show their managers and others that they had done their ritual on Jay... LOOK at the black 📍 magic circle in black on the right side of the photo.. the left hand symbol looks like the cross of 📍 satan... I cannot find online the meaning of the right hand side symbol in the circle, does anyone know what it means ? Drug cartels are known to paint these symbols after a sacrifice.. Lucy and the others likely watched the torture of Jay. Interrogate Lucy, Brad, Brandon, Qassim, Tom Hilton and his dad until they speak the truth of what they did to Jay and where they put him. JUSTICE for JAY We pray that Jay is still alive ... God protect Jay 💛 🙏
That video has been debunked as its years old, I'm not sure if he made it back to bb the person the owner spoke to could easily be the guy in middle of that photo, there is no actual proof that he made it to the bb that has been shown, he's phoned pinged but how do we know Jay had his phone, we don't, Abdul was sentenced for 9years don't know how many years he actually served as he was sentenced in 2015 when he was just 22years old, this man is picking up where he left of, using young people to run his gear, if Lucy was doing this there is noway she will ever grass Abdul ain't going to happen, Abdul is part of a larger London gang operating County lines so nobody gonna be talking anytime soon
The only person to mention the cactus story was lucy .. ayub says a friend of jays rang him saying jay was in a ditch and cut by a cactus .. so that friend had to be lucy .. but lucy says she tracked jay down by the photo of the B&B 🤷♂️ make it make sense
What if Jay never had his phone at the time of his last ping. That would mean he was never there. I would go back and ask witnesses if anyone saw Jay and any problems at the do? They could have staged him being at the B&B all in it to win it I think
That photo contains a message the 3 monkeys 🙈🙊🙈 look properly
Those 2 young guys were watching jay at the rave one had a yellow t shirt on one had blue a think they are in one of the photos
That photo of the 3 of them does looks like a skit of the 3 wise monkey speak npo evil, see no evil, ear no evil.
I the guy with the cigarette is apparently someone who goes by the name Rocky from East London.
Here There and Everywhere is from the Album - Revolver-Revolvers are types of Gun .
He went to the opposite way on purpose to deceive them, why?! Because something went wrong on the Airbnb, they found him and kill him, since the beginning I’m telling this, was sweet convict and others one, n Lucy works for them drug 🐄
Ppl are misinterpreted words, ppl saying Lucy lied as she has said Jay didn't have his phone, she meant Jay battery was flat. Now they doing the same with air bnb man over him using the words where my friend was sleeping, to me that can also mean the ROOM where his friend is staying in, not meaning actually laid in bed sleepjng! Hope this makes sense...p.s. I do hope he's found safe , I still have hope 🙏
They did not sleep, Qassim the drug boss and others brutally attacked Jay in the air bnb... Justice for JAY 🙏 Jay may have been brutally attacked in the air bnb and recorded on video... An Urgent second 📍 forensic thorough tests need to be done of the air bnb, the shop and cafe upstairs, Ophelia the air bnb owners house which is joined to the air bnb, the garage near it, the buildings near it and nearby buildings, etc The nasty 📍video which came out last week on Lucy's 📍instagram.. of Jay being held by a man, whilst another man brutally punches ♦️Jay.. may have taken place in the air bnb... as the wall, colour and features strongly appear to be the inside of the air bnb... (or perhaps the building, garage, cafe or house that is next to the air bnb as they have very similar features). Neighbours of the air bnb near Masca heard lots of shouting.. some in arabic and people yelling.. and they heard lots of noises as if someone was being badly attacked. This may have been the drug bosses and others attacking Jay.. as seen on the nasty video.. Lucy and the others came to the air bnb early that morning of the 17.06.24 perhaps to watch the brutal attacks on Jay by different people. Lucy, Brad and the others returned to the air bnb area the following night around 2am.. Why did Lucy, Brad and the others return to the air bnb on the 18.06.24 at 2am ? Perhaps to continue watching the attacks on Jay .. Or perhaps the field nearby may be where they they put his body... Lucy, Brad's telephones pinged for a while near a field not too far from the sea port of Masca.. just a short drive from the air bnb. Perhaps Tom Hilton and his associates also attacked Jay, including Qassim and others. There are various men in the nasty video where one man is seen brutally punching Jay non stop. Jay seemd unconscious or drugged by them. A man is holding Jay whilst the other man punches him with severe passionate revenge... could it be Tom Hiton, his dad or his associates... It was very distressing and made me feel sick. (The features of the room in the video where Jay is brutally attacked are very similar to the air bnb). Check if there are any secret rooms, tunnels or connecting doors to the garage, house and buildings next to the air bnb. Locals say that there a tunnel 📍 in Masca quite near the air bnb that leads to other towns.. perhaps to Santiago de Teide.. Also some searchers have said they found two disturbing ABANDONED 📍HOMESTEADS in a ravine 📍 fairly near where Jay's telephone last pinged.. with eerie signs of life and black magic rituals.. shoe laces tied to twigs with strange signs, various water bottles and a set of women's clothes.. Perhaps Jay was later taken there for further attacks... and DNA can urgently be collected by private independent forensics. The dna of the people drinking the water bottles may be traced as Tenerife may have an online database of everyones dna.. The searchers say that it was scary .. they had to walk past 📍cactus that was above their heads and they needed ROPES 📍 to get there.. Around 4am - on the 17 June 2024 (Jay was attacked and stabbed by drug bosses on the beach.. they tied his hands behind his back with a 📍ROPE and the drug boss dressed in white on the right.. in the video.. took out a long 📍 ROPE and was swinging it aggressively in circles... As locals say that there is a 📍 tunnel near Masca.. perhaps there is an exit to the tunnel near the abandoned homesteads.. Jay's telephone last pinged where Qassim and the other two took the trophy photo smirking and standing on top of two white stone benches.. which is fairly near the ravine where the two abandoned homesteads are ... When the trophy photo was taken perhaps Jay was near it (alive or unalive..) The trophy photo seems to have some photoshop on the bottom left hand corner and it seems to be deleting half of a plastic bag.. Was Jay in that bag ? ... Drug bosses are unlikely to leave their drugs out in the open.. It was said that the photo was taken (20 or 📍21 June 2024 ) 4 days after Jay was taken which was the 17 June 2024 .. Could it be that they had finished attacking Jay and took the photo as proof and as a trophy to show their managers and others that they had done their ritual on Jay... LOOK at the black 📍 magic circle in black on the right side of the photo.. the left hand symbol looks like the cross of 📍 satan... I cannot find online the meaning of the right hand side symbol in the circle, does anyone know what it means ? Drug cartels are known to paint these symbols after a sacrifice.. Lucy and the others likely watched the torture of Jay. Interrogate Lucy, Brad, Brandon, Qassim, Tom Hilton and his dad until they speak the truth of what they did to Jay and where they put him. JUSTICE for JAY We pray that Jay is still alive ... God protect Jay 💛 🙏
😮😮😮😮😮 I'm disturbed , really disturbed.. I do hope this isn't true , poor Jay and his mum, his dad, his family 😥😥😥..🙏
I actually checked how many raptures live on Tenerife due to it being a volcanic Island. What I found was the Egyptian vulture perhaps at this time probably have died out, the other rapturesare either small or in 2020 numbers were bring depleted due to poison, power lines etc. So looking for birds would be obvious if there were resident vultures and the terriein would be flattish, but if there are very few in mountainous terrain no one would notice.
Another theory could be that Jay was trafficked away from the island.. that would be a crazy turn of events but I do believe he was taken care of by PP and AQ
This is something I believe could be possible he's a pretty lad and if he was a woman we would all be thinking this
Justice for JAY 🙏 Jay may have been brutally attacked in the air bnb and recorded on video... An Urgent second 📍 forensic thorough tests need to be done of the air bnb, the shop and cafe upstairs, Ophelia the air bnb owners house which is joined to the air bnb, the garage near it, the buildings near it and nearby buildings, etc The nasty 📍video which came out last week on Lucy's 📍instagram.. of Jay being held by a man, whilst another man brutally punches ♦️Jay.. may have taken place in the air bnb... as the wall, colour and features strongly appear to be the inside of the air bnb... (or perhaps the building, garage, cafe or house that is next to the air bnb as they have very similar features). Neighbours of the air bnb near Masca heard lots of shouting.. some in arabic and people yelling.. and they heard lots of noises as if someone was being badly attacked. This may have been the drug bosses and others attacking Jay.. as seen on the nasty video.. Lucy and the others came to the air bnb early that morning of the 17.06.24 perhaps to watch the brutal attacks on Jay by different people. Lucy, Brad and the others returned to the air bnb area the following night around 2am.. Why did Lucy, Brad and the others return to the air bnb on the 18.06.24 at 2am ? Perhaps to continue watching the attacks on Jay .. Or perhaps the field nearby may be where they they put his body... Lucy, Brad's telephones pinged for a while near a field not too far from the sea port of Masca.. just a short drive from the air bnb. Perhaps Tom Hilton and his associates also attacked Jay, including Qassim and others. There are various men in the nasty video where one man is seen brutally punching Jay non stop. Jay seemd unconscious or drugged by them. A man is holding Jay whilst the other man punches him with severe passionate revenge... could it be Tom Hiton, his dad or his associates... It was very distressing and made me feel sick. (The features of the room in the video where Jay is brutally attacked are very similar to the air bnb). Check if there are any secret rooms, tunnels or connecting doors to the garage, house and buildings next to the air bnb. Locals say that there a tunnel 📍 in Masca quite near the air bnb that leads to other towns.. perhaps to Santiago de Teide.. Also some searchers have said they found two disturbing ABANDONED 📍HOMESTEADS in a ravine 📍 fairly near where Jay's telephone last pinged.. with eerie signs of life and black magic rituals.. shoe laces tied to twigs with strange signs, various water bottles and a set of women's clothes.. Perhaps Jay was later taken there for further attacks... and DNA can urgently be collected by private independent forensics. The dna of the people drinking the water bottles may be traced as Tenerife may have an online database of everyones dna.. The searchers say that it was scary .. they had to walk past 📍cactus that was above their heads and they needed ROPES 📍 to get there.. Around 4am - on the 17 June 2024 (Jay was attacked and stabbed by drug bosses on the beach.. they tied his hands behind his back with a 📍ROPE and the drug boss dressed in white on the right.. in the video.. took out a long 📍 ROPE and was swinging it aggressively in circles... As locals say that there is a 📍 tunnel near Masca.. perhaps there is an exit to the tunnel near the abandoned homesteads.. Jay's telephone last pinged where Qassim and the other two took the trophy photo smirking and standing on top of two white stone benches.. which is fairly near the ravine where the two abandoned homesteads are ... When the trophy photo was taken perhaps Jay was near it (alive or unalive..) The trophy photo seems to have some photoshop on the bottom left hand corner and it seems to be deleting half of a plastic bag.. Was Jay in that bag ? ... Drug bosses are unlikely to leave their drugs out in the open.. It was said that the photo was taken (20 or 📍21 June 2024 ) 4 days after Jay was taken which was the 17 June 2024 .. Could it be that they had finished attacking Jay and took the photo as proof and as a trophy to show their managers and others that they had done their ritual on Jay... LOOK at the black 📍 magic circle in black on the right side of the photo.. the left hand symbol looks like the cross of 📍 satan... I cannot find online the meaning of the right hand side symbol in the circle, does anyone know what it means ? Drug cartels are known to paint these symbols after a sacrifice.. Lucy and the others likely watched the torture of Jay. Interrogate Lucy, Brad, Brandon, Qassim, Tom Hilton and his dad until they speak the truth of what they did to Jay and where they put him. JUSTICE for JAY We pray that Jay is still alive ... God protect Jay 💛 🙏
@@chelled6429 absolutely 👍🏽
I believe he was set up it was either drugs the watch or what he did in passed the men know what happened b and b they hurt him or someone has taken him brad lucy know something look at there interviews lies
JV is PP… he pretty much untouchable
So much does not make sense. They are all involved in shady business which plays a significant role in Jay's disappearance. It is so great you are sticking with this case Sunny❤ I love your channel. I am sorry I missed your Live😢. Catching up now...Thank you. Love from Ireland 🇮🇪
Jay was kidnapped by a well known rapper who I listen to… Potter Payper. Jay stole the watch from the rapper so him and his best mate Ayub Q took him. I believe it was AQ who sent the message to Jays mom that day. If I’m right, Jay will be fish food now because potter don’t mess. This is all IMO of course. And rappers usually rap about violence they have committed and add clues to who they rap about so PP will in time say something in a track he makes in the future about Jay if he’s involved. Bet the Spanish cops were paid off ..
If your friend is asleep, what would your friend think/do if he should wake up to a total stranger rummaging through his bedroom?
Jay was set up by Lucy and Qassim the drug boss and others. Jay did not steal the rolex, they falsely accused Jay as an excuse to kidnap Jay and hurt him...
A creator on TT, could've been littlemissvodka, shows on a map where she's geolocated the guys to be when they're standing on the cinder blocks. She suggests that the video could've been recorded on the way to the Airbnb, just before Masca. Could this have been videoed on that very morning? Who was recording the video? They did apparently stop for drinks on the morning of the 17th. Just something to bear in mind, but there's the issue of Jay being seen by Ofelia, plus Jay talking sending his location during a phone call on that path near the road.
There is nowhere to stop for a drink at a public place at 5am in Tenerife. They may have stopped in someone's house or in the middle of the road .. likely to discuss the harm they were going to do to Jay..
I get the feeling that breaking one these characters is going to prove more fruitful than trying to find Jay in the mountains.
I think there's an explanation as to why Jay was laughing with Brad, and moments later was having a very unpleasant phone call with Lucy. Jay's circumstances hadn't changed, but the person who he was talking with had. Brad likely didn't want to tell Jay he'd just been an idiot, and perhaps he actually found it all to be really great ... but Lucy, who's been part of the scene out there, and had time to sober up, no doubt screamed at him for effing up. No wonder Lucy, on her GFM wording, was emphasising that she went home early, and was distancing herself from Jay in the text. And perhaps the quickly arranged GFM was to raise money in the hope that paying money to these guys could get Jay back.
Jay had already been stabbed, badly attacked and perhaps unalived when traitor Lucy started the go fund me. Lucy and the drug bosses want money at any costs even if they have to hurt someone. Lucy and the drug bosses lack human moral values, dignity and are not human.
There's the possibility that Jay stole the watch that he'd just sold, along with drugs and cash. Perhaps Ofelia needing the car to be moved brought disaster upon Jay. Ayub perhaps trusted him and was about to find out what Jay had just done ...
What if the old lady knocked him down by accident and had help to get rid of him. She did say she seen him again later on a bend in the road when she was driving
@Beautifulpeople44 I actually thought about this possibility near the beginning of all this, and it's still a possibility. When Reece Rodger went missing in Scotland last year, I thought something similar. But given all the rest that we know in this case, it does seem that Lucy and co. are hiding what Jay did ... but we have to keep an open mind to all the various possibilities.
@@Dabmonger absolutely 👍🏽 🙏🏽
I think the reason for mentioning that on the left is the downstairs bedroom (in the Airbnb), is because it would appear that as you go in the door there will be the option of going left into the bedroom and going up the stairs to the other bedroom.
Not sure if this has been covered by yourself Sunny, but in the background of one of those two photos of Ayub sitting in the bar/club, there are guys in white t-shirts wearing black crossbody sling bags, just like Jay was wearing. Perhaps a uniform for these workers, or is it just a latest fashion?
It is fashion but mostly wore by dealers ,once dealers started wearing it regular ppl stopped, I see the weed dealers where I live use them too ,an I'm in Ireland so i guess it is a dealers uniform in Europe lol
Was that J at the Airbnb could it have been Brad. Would the woman know Jay. Could have been walking up the mountain to make phone calls so there would be a ping from up there. Could have thrown phone. Has the Cannabis cafe been checked it was said to have been broken in to and smashed up so would be a good cover if Jay was taken there first. Beaten and then en route to Airbnb hidden. There are tunnels under the mountain on the road leading to Masca. Anyone could have posed for that picture holding jays lighter and wearing his shoes. How did Lucy know to ring Ayub ? Didn’t they say they were guys just hanging round them. Why then would you have his phone number. Has the hired car been searched for forensics. I don’t buy any of their stories. It’s all contrived. And why doesn’t Brandon figure very much in this story. That tic tock guy has just shot down the lie Jay went to buy cigarettes he said nothing opens till ten o clock . Why would Ayub who is said to run the cannabis cafe rent an Airbnb 30 miles away in Masca . Surly he would have accommodation near to his place of work. If Jay was even there I think he left whilst they were sleeping going in the oppersit direction rather than the expected direction down to Los Christanos. Did Ayub call Lucy at 8 o clock for her to call Jay and get his location. They had a car they could have gone to find him. And brought him back for that matter they could have dealt with him there. None of what they’re saying is making sense. Have the Spanish police contacted all the people involved phone providers to get the details from their phones. I can’t understand why Jays parents haven’t contacted British police and asked them to get involved. They then would have a valid reason to question all the players involved. Why is the British consul not putting pressure on the Spanish police . Nothing about this is ringing true. Has this been cooked up to get the money for lost bag. Will Jay turn up injured but alive or is unalived well hidden and never be found.
This 70 yo woman have eyes too .. and certainly brad's face and Jay's face look nothing alike... nothing at all... and as Jay's photos have been published and seen ad infinitum... had she had the wrong identity she would have reported it a long time ago. f there is one thing Guardia Civil (and British Police) are sure of, it is that Jay was in Masca without a shadow of a doubt.
Jonny Vegas is in Malta he has a Canadian accent,Lucys last place she went before Tenerife was Malta....just a coincidence or not???
I have been saying this, that's not Johnny Vegas , Johnny Vegas is a whole different person and in my mind has more to do with this case and that's why they protecting him.
Paul ( down the Rapids) has been caught in a number of lies. He has not been searching and he was offered climbing gear after he said he was a experienced climber but did not have gear and he turned it down. A mountain climbing group invited Paul to join them, he turned them down. Scottish Mountain Rescue said they have not been approached or talked to anyone regarding a Jay Slater search. His Go Fund Me was suspended then was reinstated after the description was changed as to its purpose, there is now no mention of Jay Slater or putting together a search group. He has been supplied with food and clothes for a number of weeks but has put out a video of him begging for bread to eat. Do not donate money to this person, if you want to donate please donate to the family.
On the video where they are standing on the walls.look at there trainers.they are blue jay had black ones on at the door having a cig.
When im asleep i put my phone on silent as im sure most people do, but he got a call from a friend why he couldn't of give the friend directions to the property on the phone instead of Lucy searching for it via photo information. Even though she knew exactly were it was. Mark is cleverly repeating all the contradicting crap he being told and he definitely knows it is all garbage knowing people will see through it and some will come forward knowing more information or slip up. Hes taking on board all the info leaking on line and following up on it quietly. He know what he's doing and he's a man with a plan😉
Yes, it's Mark saying Ayub is Johnny Vegas. They are two seperate people!! Ayub is the one guy and 'Jonny Vegas' the other guy.
Yeah really annoying when the media gets this wrong. Its not hard to find the other on instagram.
Mark said he knew the identity of the other guy but wasn’t releasing it. I wonder if he’s been threatened because he left Tenerife pretty quickly. Unless he comes back here to dig into this end of the county lines operating from this end.
Once we discovered Jay's location where he'd been talking with Lucy, it just proved her story to be nonsense. It's like someone, possibly Jay himself, took the phone to that spot in order to create this story that he was lost in the cactus "jungle", including having been pricked by a cactus. The big issue with this story is that Jay just wasn't far enough from the road & path to be lost, and be amongst the cacti. A story has been created to cover the real story, and then a further story told for the GFM page. No wonder Lucy didn't seem concerned about Jay in the GFM, as she already knew that he was okay, or otherwise.
If you google *masca* translated to English it means to hide / disguise.. coincidence?
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