Andrew at Parkhurst is always awesome to work with and his boots deliver on quality and superior fit. I’ve had my Clover Kudu stitchdowns for about a week or so and they deliver on patina & the superior fit you get with Parkhurst’s lasts. Highly recommend!
@askallroundcreative28506 күн бұрын
Price this shoe......11 uk size
@chalkboardshoes6 күн бұрын
Well, they are $810 on the C&J website.
@garyb25076 күн бұрын
I would have mixed some brown and black to make it a similar (or darker) colour than the upper.
@user-zw1xm6bp2i7 күн бұрын
Yeah i agree with you steve is the better cobbler today.just watching his work on youtube.he put his mind and heart for every repair he had.and his kind enough sharing his techniques to those who aspire to become cobblers.and find him little bit funny
@likearc7 күн бұрын
I know what you are saying about the stiffness of some high quality leather footwear. For numerous pairs of mine I've had to wear them for several months for them to soften. What I find helps is also taking the shoe and bending it several times quite severely without my foot in it. It is pretty amazing how long and how much flexing the break in needs sometimes.
@chalkboardshoes7 күн бұрын
Apologies for the slight audio mistake at 5:38.
@deXXXXter27 күн бұрын
How many times did u wear your Minerva boots? I'm from Poland, bought some polish boots with thick, veg-tan leather and it took like 150-250km for them to break in and finally by at least not intusive. They are still hard, but leather has formed to my foot and they do not rub. I think u just need to wear your minerva GS boots more, they still look new!
@chalkboardshoes7 күн бұрын
I think I wore them 8 times as of making this video. I had a pair of British C&J dress shoes that I believe were made from pure veg tan leather. They took probably 30 wears to start feeling softer. I think you're right that I need to wear them a lot more.
@deXXXXter27 күн бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes I'm sure of it :) You are in this stage, where u wore them for some time and they still feel pretty bad, so It's understanble that frustration creeps in. But It's all leather, they will form :) Maybe try some non-slip insole from some kind of textile material to limit heel slippage. That might help a lot.
@mickosullivan29629 күн бұрын
I absolutely love my AE Higgins Mill boots , in fact I now have 5 pairs and just ordered another pair at the shell trunk show . It seems like there are many who despise the AE brand but methinks they really do not know or understand the product . To me they are awesome and well built as well as being very very comfortable . Trust me and go out and give em a try , you will be a happy camper ! Great review ! Keep up the good work !
@chalkboardshoes8 күн бұрын
Agreed, it's a great boot.
@wabio9 күн бұрын
I followed Dale @ Dale's Leatherworks recommendation and went with the Saphir Creme Cuir Gras for Kudu leather. It works fantastic.
@jc260410 күн бұрын
It was a chore to get through this. The CS story is tired.
@redhotsillypeppers10 күн бұрын
I'm excited to see how this channel develops, great intellectual content and analysis, I think it's missing visual stimulation
@chalkboardshoes11 күн бұрын
If anyone is curious as to why the thumbnail shows gray laces (but the video does not), it's because I didn't receive them until after the video was finished.
@ACee15611 күн бұрын
Great review. Thanks for the information.
@tony_r_pierce11 күн бұрын
Great video! I have the Spruce and Cumulus kudu from Parkhurst and the asfalto horsebutt. Love the brand. I'd love to try one of the stitchdown versions, and this review was very informative.
@chalkboardshoes11 күн бұрын
I'm jealous that you have the cumulus kudu boots. I don't know why I didn't buy them when I had the chance.
@rockymtnstyle11 күн бұрын
Really nice vid showing off the 618. Much appreciated!
@chalkboardshoes11 күн бұрын
I think for you, it might be a good last.
@anderstietz80911 күн бұрын
I like the shape of the new last. I, too, have been a little frustrated with availability. I have a pair of Grant Stones in the Leo last. How would the Leo last compare to the 618 last, in your opinion?
@chalkboardshoes11 күн бұрын
The Leo is more like the 602M last, but with a higher instep. The 618 wider than the Leo at the ball, but has a narrower heel for sure. Instep room is similar to the Leo. I take the same size in each of those lasts. That's my opinion. Edit: I meant to say the Leo has a higher instep, not lower.
@ryanpiyo9811 күн бұрын
618 has a tighter heel and waist than the Leo imo. Forefoot is wider than D width Leo, but the quarters on the Allen stitchdown are smaller than the Diesel and especially the Edward. So when laced up they don't reach the point of touching which is great for my low instep and skinny ankles. I prefer 8.5D in GS Leo, heel is very slightly loose, forefoot is just that bit snug which I like. I have also 8D Leo, but those are too short and snug at the ball, but heel is nice. So with Parkhurst, based on Andrew's sizing advice, I went 9. Was worried at first that it might be too big. But yeah just a day of wear and I could tell that this last really suited my feet. The low toe volume, snug waist and heel made the extra width a good thing. Secure yet no squishing of the toes. Not much more I could ask for. It fit so well imo that I purchased another 618 Allen Stitchdown. So will have the Tempesti Veg Tan and Inferno Rambler
@anderstietz80911 күн бұрын
@@ryanpiyo98 I was eyeing the Inferno Rambler, myself. I’ll need to act soon. Thank you for your insight.
@Will-yp6ny11 күн бұрын
Very nice review. I just received my Inferno Rambler pair today and yes this new last fits a little wide but I don’t mind. I wish, I would’ve known this before and ordered these a 1/2 size smaller.
@chalkboardshoes11 күн бұрын
Did you already wear them outside?
@Will-yp6ny11 күн бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes Not yet but I’ll take that back, they fit perfect actually. I just wore them around the house and they fit great. The smell of the leather is amazing!
@ryanpiyo9811 күн бұрын
@Will-yp6ny yes I have B width foot and sized down a full size. There's some wiggle room in the ball, but with the waist and heel so secure, the slight bit of room at the toes is actually welcomed. Once the boot molds and creases to your feet, it's just a super comfortable boot. Mine are the tempesti veg tan which is very supple. I'm waiting for the inferno rambler as well.
@jtee59578 күн бұрын
I did true to size successfully. Little extra room but not loose. I’m B width on Brannock but I usually wear D or even E because of toe rub.
@The_Other_Matt11 күн бұрын
Great comparison of the two lasts. I have one of the prototype stitchdown models from earlier this year but that last was still very much a work in progress. The sizing was very generous. Even going a full size down I'm still looking for ways to take up some of the extra volume (kilties and thicker leather laces so far). The 602M fits me better than the 602 which I have to wear thinner socks with. I think I would really like this final version of the 618.
@chalkboardshoes11 күн бұрын
Interesting. I saw Bootlosophy's video on the last in progress and I could tell it looked quite different from the final version. Having said that, I do fit better into the 602M last as well.
@edbehan130612 күн бұрын
Looks like the 2030 last?
@chalkboardshoes11 күн бұрын
Perhaps it is based on that last, but I would not know.
@BB-gl7zt11 күн бұрын
Not really, it's its own thing which is good
@chefrichh12 күн бұрын
Parkhurst is the best design and fit for me. 602M and 618 lasts are excellent! 👌
@darrenhall745412 күн бұрын
This is definitely the last for me. I love a snug heel with lots of room across the toes. Sounds like the last I’ve been looking for. 😁👍
@chalkboardshoes12 күн бұрын
Some men will definitely appreciate it. Thanks
@MilesGeorgeVideos12 күн бұрын
I've just acquired a very, very similar pair. I had no idea that they could be so old!
@chalkboardshoes12 күн бұрын
Yes, the Fairhaven is usually at least 10 years old, and possibly 20 years.
@davidedmonds642715 күн бұрын
You could SUN FADE them to make them lighter, but I agree I don't like to be lied to about something I wanted to purchase.
@chalkboardshoes15 күн бұрын
Thanks, and I have thought about it. I might do that.
@waxedearth542515 күн бұрын
If you think Diesel’s are heavy, try the Brass Boot. They’re over 2 pounds 😅 Your take on GS’s being tanks, stiff and needing tight lacing is spot on. You have to cinch the lacing tight all the way up and let the leather yield to your instep. I own an Edward in Color 8 and wore them with a navy and grey suit everyday. They broke in beautifully. The weight is still there. Not like kicking around in my Higgins Mills. But I still prefer the heftier leather and solid build construction of GS. Really enjoy the great detail and pacing of your review videos. Exceptional!!
@chalkboardshoes15 күн бұрын
Thank you! I've heard a lot of good things about the brass boots, but I do not own them.
@siddharthakhanna680616 күн бұрын
How do these boots look now?
@chalkboardshoes16 күн бұрын
Not a lot different, but a little darker. I might do a follow up video one day to show where they are at.
@liangchen817719 күн бұрын
Green, grey, blue all in one boot. What a color!
@JanHuraj24 күн бұрын
I like your videos, but there are some biased and incorrect information in this one.. Kudu leather is definitely softer and more supple than CXL leather. I have several kudu shoes/boots, and they are softer and lighter than the CXL, and required no break-in. I'm also not a fan of your and other American vloggers' efforts to idealize the construction of GS boots. It only shows incompetence and activism. The fact that all parts of the shoe are leather does not have to be a sign of a higher quality GS shoe or their construction compared to e.g. AE Higgins mill boots. The manufacturer combines various materials in order to produce a shoe with such features that he knows from experience that his customer demands and appreciates. Not everything is motivated to save on materials. By the way, the leather is heavier and less flexible also due to the fact that the skin of an older animal is used. Such leather is of lower quality and is also cheaper. And GS does not provide such information anywhere. For example, the leathers that GS used for their Edward Natural Minerva or Cap toe British Tan Calf boots are very hard/stiff, inflexible, and even after 1-3 years of wear, they do not soften and are not really comfortable. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a second grade hide from an old animal. In these cases, I don't really care how "quality" the construction of the shoe is. Most of the shoes/boots I have are from Tricker`s, AE, GS, Loake and Sanders, but I have also tried (and returned) boots/shoes from other manufacturers (see below). And it is interesting that boots from Tricker`s and other English manufacturers are mostly lighter than GS, while their construction is just as strong, they are tankers, using the highest quality materials. I feel that you American vloggers only present popular manufacturers with strong marketing, thus limiting yourself to comparing only about 10 American manufacturers (GS, AE, Caswell, Parkhurst, Alden, Nicks, Red Wing, Truman, theoakstreet.., or low-quality Thursdayboot ).. Under this influence, you often spread simplified stories, for example, obsession with the stitch density, all-leather construction, singing the praises of CXL leather, etc. It would not hurt to look, for example, at English or Italian production, and recognize their great tradition and quality. Anyway, thanks for your video reviews and fingers crossed!
@chalkboardshoes24 күн бұрын
Well, I will say that I am a huge fan of British constructed shoes and boots. I have been trying to get my hands on Trickers for a while. I know they are made as well any other company out there. It's just hard to find something in my size that is available for a reasonable price. Having said that, I do have a video in the works on a Trickers model, but we'll see if it happens. I have several videos I'm working on right now. Thanks for watching even if you don't agree with my opinions (I never said my videos are unbiased). :)
@krystjanchanerley9288Ай бұрын
The Trickers Robert derby also makes a similar style to the Lanark 3 .
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
Thanks. I'm currently looking into Trickers a lot. They have some interesting options. Price is tricky, but occasionally good deals can be found. I almost ordered a Robert in gray suede last year that was on clearance, but it sold out.
@krystjanchanerley9288Ай бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes They have a summer sale on now The gray sand suede is available..
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
I saw that, but I really want a gray suede (not the sand). But I want to ask you, is the Robert last very roomy at the instep and ball? There's a pair on Ebay in gray suede, but it's 1/2 size larger than my usual size. It's a very good price, but not sure if the fit will be too large.
@krystjanchanerley928828 күн бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes The honest answer is I don’t know. My shoe size is UK 9 and my tricker Stows fit perfectly, as my feet are flat and wide, with plenty of room at the instep and ball. I do believe that there will be plenty of room at the instep and ball and that perhaps the 1/2 size larger than your normal size maybe too big for you. Trickers in general fit my wide feet really well.
@usmnt4423Ай бұрын
Yeah, if the AE store was going to make the effort of helping you get a lighter pair, that’s on them to make sure they have it right, even if some time goes by. If it sold, they should have told you so.
@CeliceDSChАй бұрын
Get the Jungle Kangaroo leather in holiday sale; that's my first Diesel boot, and I couldn't be happier.
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
I've heard that one is very comfortable due to the kangaroo leather.
@MikeZ709Ай бұрын
Another excellent video! When revenue is low, employees lie to make the sale. Here's a thought. Are you willing to pay AE $700 USD for 1980's shoe quality standards? There are more frugal buyers in the marketplace than the buyers willing to spend $700 USD without hesitation. Demands by buyers effect how a company will adjust itself to survive. Mike
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
Good points. I don't think most would be willing to spend that kind of money now. However, some people would. Alden still gets a lot of business at their prices. But there's no way AE could produce the level of quality needed with the current high output.
@MikeZ709Ай бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes I think AE can still make 1980's shoe quality through their customization shop. Currently charging $525 USD for suede and smooth leather. This made-to-order method can reach the buyers willing to spend money for quality. In addition, they can still mass produce your favourite shoe (dress sneakers). Just kidding about the dress sneakers remark. :-) Alden is different can of worm. My size is not in their inventory. The Seattle shop for Alden never got back to me, so I took my business somewhere else. Good to have options.
@_Stay_CuriousАй бұрын
@@MikeZ709 I've been interested in the AE custom option, but they don't yet have a leather I want.
@MikeZ709Ай бұрын
@_Stay_Curious Well... you're going to have wait or find another shoe company to make your shoes with the leather you desire.
@calebc3662Ай бұрын
Love your videos! I have a pair of 1992 Richmond Burgundy long wings that were practically brand new for $25! I absolutely adore them. Thank you for all knowledge in regard to Allen Edmonds as it has taught me a lot. I have about 5 pairs at the moment! I tend to look for good used condition shoes on places like eBay as, even though I’m only 23, I prefer traditional welted shoes whereas AE’s current catalog is slowly turning into more cemented constructed shoes.
@aross924Ай бұрын
Love your videos. Thank you for the hard work.
@VincentGeorgeOnSFАй бұрын
What an absolute score, bro. Congrats. I have a pair of late 80s McAllisters in the black polished cobbler and I can say that they even fit a little “better” than modern counterparts.
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
Maybe slightly more generous for me than the newer shoes, which is good for me.
@VincentGeorgeOnSFАй бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes Yes, exactly. I just sold 2 pair of contemporary McAllisters on eBay (10eee) because they felt too tight. Totally weird. I have other pairs from the same period that fit fine. Definitely more variance.
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
@@VincentGeorgeOnSF Did you notice I mentioned you in the video? I think with sizing , it varies a lot more with modern AE. It's very unpredictable.
@VincentGeorgeOnSFАй бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes I was honored and flattered :)
@andrewg.spurgeon1736Ай бұрын
If you find something you want and you don't jump on it when it's available, you lose. Waiting until the next sale shouldn't be a strategy if getting something so hard to find is at issue. I agree completely that the store shouldn't jerk you around and/or lie, but you also should have bought what you wanted when you knew they had them. You can lighten them up with some acetone to strip off much of the factory finish and re-dye them in the shade you actually want. It's not hard nor expensive to do. Only when you get into patinas does it get challenging. That having been said, I'm done with Allen Edmonds dress shoes. The last pair of Strands that I bought were atrocious. Not factory seconds and not on sale either. I bought a pair of navy blue shell cordovan Strands and a pair of suede Strandmoks. The Strandmoks were fine, but the shell cordovan Strands looked like they were made by an amateur. Flaws in the cordovan, crooked stitching and crooked seams. It's unfortunate, but they just aren't the company they were years ago and their quality and workmanship have gone down the toilet. I have several pairs of Allen Edmonds I got new back in the 80's and 90's when they were known as a true luxury brand and something any well dressed man would aspire to own. As you pointed out with your 1987 McAllisters, they are no longer the same shoes. I actually do like their new line of casual shoes with the sneaker soles (the slip-on's and not the oxford styles) and I have several pairs of them in both suede and leather. I particularly like the Randolf slip on sneakers in both the penny loafer form and the bit loafer form. Have them both in a few colors. Same with the Hayes and Sebastian. I'm completely satisfied with the quality of these shoes and they are hands down 10 times better than the similar looking offerings from Cole Haan, Aldo or other similar brands. I also bought them on sale. Doubt I would pay full retail for them, but they are worth it when they are $250 or below. I paid less than $200 for all of mine but 1 pair. I have switched to TLB Mallorca, Carmina and Crockett & Jones for my dress shoes (oxfords and loafers) now. TLB Mallorca, in particular, is a major bargain when you can have a pair of their main-line shoes made to order with your choice of leather or suede and your choice of soles, stitching, etc all for just over $400 and the Artista line for under $500, plus the quality & finishing are downright amazing. I think Alden had the right idea.......keep quality the same and raise the prices. It would be an interesting exercise to see you do a side-by-side comparison of your 1987 McAllisters and a current day pair to show the changes and obvious differences in quality. It really shows in the stitching and finishing.
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
Fair points (about the timing and waiting). I might take up your suggestion about comparing in quality. Thanks for your interesting comment.
@hannibalbarca2939Ай бұрын
Great video, just bought these. I am about to check if you did your follow on year review right after this video.
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
I would suggest watching my most recent video on Grant Stone, which kind of goes into the situation.
@JosephBair-qp5yzАй бұрын
I love my Grant Stones. The only thing I don’t like is the eyelets.
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
Too big?
@JosephBair-qp5yzАй бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes That and they just look off to me. Almost flat. I still like them but wish they had just the basic eyelets that come one heritage type boots
@calebtate6723Ай бұрын
Knows bros call out! Love it. That guy is hilarious
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
yes, he is
@drzaius844Ай бұрын
My brown CXL Diesels are super broken in and I have no heel slip. They are my best all day, 20,000 step a day boots. I have a new pair of Vibergs that may beat them, once they break in, but GS is incredible value. I think the all leather construction just takes time. Totally worth it. The only GS product that I have that is resisting break in is the tan calf cap toe boot. That is a stern leather. My saddle tan Diesels broke in very well. The forest kudu cap toe can pinch my toes but I have that issue with most cap toes. I just think it’s a pinch point for me.
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
When you say brown, do you mean the natural cxl color?
@drzaius844Ай бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes no, they call it Crimson, but I believe that is just Horween Brown CXL. I have a couple things in natty CXL and I just don’t find it to be a very versatile color. Whereas I can hike in mine and brush them off and go to a nice dinner.
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
Ah yes, I forgot about the crimson color. Seems like it's kind of overlooked.
@zaltan02 ай бұрын
Totally agree with the heel slip, I have the black cxl with leather outsoles. i really have to have them snug. If it's too loose my foot shakes around and if too tight it's just uncomfy
@whereRbearsTeethАй бұрын
You’re sized wrong then
@zaltan0Ай бұрын
@@whereRbearsTeeth in terms of the size or width?
@chalkboardshoesАй бұрын
It's hard to say for sure without seeing your feet, but it sounds like the last might just not be great for you. Or it just needs more breaking in?
@zaltan09 күн бұрын
@@chalkboardshoesseemed like i did size them half a width small
@VincentGeorgeOnSF2 ай бұрын
Top notch. I'm glad GS recognized your reviews and sent you these boots.
@chalkboardshoes2 ай бұрын
Thanks Mr. George!
@haroldm46002 ай бұрын
I have the same 2 pairs of Grant Stone boots as shown & discussed in this video, the Edward & Diesel boots in Natural Minerva & Navy CXL respectively. My GS Field boots are in dark burgundy Kudu. I ordered the Edward first, 1/2 size down from my Brannock size and they pinched in the toes, had to exchange for 1/2 size larger, my true Brannock. I ordered the Field boots next in my true Brannock but they were significantly loose. I could not exchange them since they were purchased as a B Grade but they fit well using a foam insole and thick socks. The Kudu leather was soft & supple. It's odd that you found them stiffer than CXL. I have had no difficulty or discomfort breaking in any of them, although that's still ongoing. In conclusion, FWIW the GS Floyd last (Field, Brass boots) is considerably more roomy than their Leo last (Edward & Diesel) and it was a mistake to assume that I needed the same size in each type. I purchased both the Field and Diesel boots as B grade and it is virtually impossible to identify any defects in either. GS B Grades are superb value at around $240/pr., just make sure you know your correct sizing as they are final sale.
@chalkboardshoes2 ай бұрын
It seems most people feel the kudu is soft or similar to cxl, so I'm not sure why my experience is different.
@subhasish-m2 ай бұрын
I want to mention one thing - you said no other manufacturer puts as much leather in the construction as Grant Stone does at this price range. I would argue Parkhurst is comparable, and maybe even better in some regards (e.g. external heel counter cover is actually a cover).
@chalkboardshoes2 ай бұрын
I have wanted to try Parkhurst for a long time, but the problem is they always sell out in my size very quickly. They are similar in price, for sure.
@subhasish-m2 ай бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes I prefer them to Grant Stone in many ways. I hope you get a chance to check them out!
@whereRbearsTeethАй бұрын
I own several boots from both brands. I think GS builds a better boot.
@subhasish-mАй бұрын
@@whereRbearsTeeth We'll have to disagree then! I think Grant Stone's finishing is better, but I definitely prefer my Parkhursts.
@whereRbearsTeethАй бұрын
@@subhasish-mWhy do you prefer them?
@jonwalker29292 ай бұрын
Another great video.
@chalkboardshoes2 ай бұрын
Thanks Jon. Have I convinced you to try Grant Stone?
@kingofthenoobs2 ай бұрын
I'm surprised you found the Kudu tougher to break in than CXL. Both the reverse Snuff and Storm Kudus were more supple than CXL to me, although all are quite soft and comfortable, especially compared to GS's calf and Minerva offerings. Only the suede and Kangaroo options are softer in my experience. Haven't tried the bison but I hear that is also very soft.
@chalkboardshoes2 ай бұрын
It was surprising to me as well. I guess I could also consider Kangaroo. Do you have any experience with the waxed commander?
@kingofthenoobs2 ай бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes Yes it's just a little bit stiffer than CXL to start and wears in very nicely. I want that rawhide waxy commander that Viberg uses.
@arindambasu98502 ай бұрын
Leo is one of the most comfortable lasts for me. And GS us one of my top 3 favourite brands , solid bang for the buck. Especially their B grades which are brilliant. I have multiple pairs from GS and pretty much enjoy all of them.
@MorganUnfreeman2 ай бұрын
Nothing works with denim. Denim is the worst looking material if you want to look nice denim is perfect for labor
@nikitasavtchenko441814 күн бұрын
r/unpopularopinions
@iHustleLXXXI2 ай бұрын
Wait you said this video was a sponsored video but then you also said #3 @ 2:13 you said “is this my favorite pair of GS boot you bought so far.” I’m confused. Did you buy these or were they given to you? Not a big deal but I had to play it a few times because I was confused. Thanks in advance!
@chalkboardshoes2 ай бұрын
I noticed that error when I finished the video. I meant to say "gotten" not "bought". They were a gift.
@edbehan13062 ай бұрын
Good review. For me it all about the last. GS is not best for me. Only boot I need E width to be comfortable. Probably my fault but I can't stop my tan Essex diesels from squeaking in the sole after got them wet.
@chalkboardshoes2 ай бұрын
That's interesting because I've found the Leo to be a wide last in general. You're right though in that lasts will be hit or miss for all of us.
@edbehan13062 ай бұрын
@@chalkboardshoes I know. Guess all feet are different. Big toe gets pushed in on leo 10D but a 55 lasted Nicks in 10 C is good. I only buy one brand of boot now. Not Nicks.
@likearc2 ай бұрын
Whites is having a clearance on their whites reserve boots. They're the same dress/casual style. You should check them out, you may really like them.
@chalkboardshoes2 ай бұрын
I've heard good things about Whites. Thanks for letting me know
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Andrew at Parkhurst is always awesome to work with and his boots deliver on quality and superior fit. I’ve had my Clover Kudu stitchdowns for about a week or so and they deliver on patina & the superior fit you get with Parkhurst’s lasts. Highly recommend!
Price this shoe......11 uk size
Well, they are $810 on the C&J website.
I would have mixed some brown and black to make it a similar (or darker) colour than the upper.
Yeah i agree with you steve is the better cobbler today.just watching his work on youtube.he put his mind and heart for every repair he had.and his kind enough sharing his techniques to those who aspire to become cobblers.and find him little bit funny
I know what you are saying about the stiffness of some high quality leather footwear. For numerous pairs of mine I've had to wear them for several months for them to soften. What I find helps is also taking the shoe and bending it several times quite severely without my foot in it. It is pretty amazing how long and how much flexing the break in needs sometimes.
Apologies for the slight audio mistake at 5:38.
How many times did u wear your Minerva boots? I'm from Poland, bought some polish boots with thick, veg-tan leather and it took like 150-250km for them to break in and finally by at least not intusive. They are still hard, but leather has formed to my foot and they do not rub. I think u just need to wear your minerva GS boots more, they still look new!
I think I wore them 8 times as of making this video. I had a pair of British C&J dress shoes that I believe were made from pure veg tan leather. They took probably 30 wears to start feeling softer. I think you're right that I need to wear them a lot more.
@@chalkboardshoes I'm sure of it :) You are in this stage, where u wore them for some time and they still feel pretty bad, so It's understanble that frustration creeps in. But It's all leather, they will form :) Maybe try some non-slip insole from some kind of textile material to limit heel slippage. That might help a lot.
I absolutely love my AE Higgins Mill boots , in fact I now have 5 pairs and just ordered another pair at the shell trunk show . It seems like there are many who despise the AE brand but methinks they really do not know or understand the product . To me they are awesome and well built as well as being very very comfortable . Trust me and go out and give em a try , you will be a happy camper ! Great review ! Keep up the good work !
Agreed, it's a great boot.
I followed Dale @ Dale's Leatherworks recommendation and went with the Saphir Creme Cuir Gras for Kudu leather. It works fantastic.
It was a chore to get through this. The CS story is tired.
I'm excited to see how this channel develops, great intellectual content and analysis, I think it's missing visual stimulation
If anyone is curious as to why the thumbnail shows gray laces (but the video does not), it's because I didn't receive them until after the video was finished.
Great review. Thanks for the information.
Great video! I have the Spruce and Cumulus kudu from Parkhurst and the asfalto horsebutt. Love the brand. I'd love to try one of the stitchdown versions, and this review was very informative.
I'm jealous that you have the cumulus kudu boots. I don't know why I didn't buy them when I had the chance.
Really nice vid showing off the 618. Much appreciated!
I think for you, it might be a good last.
I like the shape of the new last. I, too, have been a little frustrated with availability. I have a pair of Grant Stones in the Leo last. How would the Leo last compare to the 618 last, in your opinion?
The Leo is more like the 602M last, but with a higher instep. The 618 wider than the Leo at the ball, but has a narrower heel for sure. Instep room is similar to the Leo. I take the same size in each of those lasts. That's my opinion. Edit: I meant to say the Leo has a higher instep, not lower.
618 has a tighter heel and waist than the Leo imo. Forefoot is wider than D width Leo, but the quarters on the Allen stitchdown are smaller than the Diesel and especially the Edward. So when laced up they don't reach the point of touching which is great for my low instep and skinny ankles. I prefer 8.5D in GS Leo, heel is very slightly loose, forefoot is just that bit snug which I like. I have also 8D Leo, but those are too short and snug at the ball, but heel is nice. So with Parkhurst, based on Andrew's sizing advice, I went 9. Was worried at first that it might be too big. But yeah just a day of wear and I could tell that this last really suited my feet. The low toe volume, snug waist and heel made the extra width a good thing. Secure yet no squishing of the toes. Not much more I could ask for. It fit so well imo that I purchased another 618 Allen Stitchdown. So will have the Tempesti Veg Tan and Inferno Rambler
@@ryanpiyo98 I was eyeing the Inferno Rambler, myself. I’ll need to act soon. Thank you for your insight.
Very nice review. I just received my Inferno Rambler pair today and yes this new last fits a little wide but I don’t mind. I wish, I would’ve known this before and ordered these a 1/2 size smaller.
Did you already wear them outside?
@@chalkboardshoes Not yet but I’ll take that back, they fit perfect actually. I just wore them around the house and they fit great. The smell of the leather is amazing!
@Will-yp6ny yes I have B width foot and sized down a full size. There's some wiggle room in the ball, but with the waist and heel so secure, the slight bit of room at the toes is actually welcomed. Once the boot molds and creases to your feet, it's just a super comfortable boot. Mine are the tempesti veg tan which is very supple. I'm waiting for the inferno rambler as well.
I did true to size successfully. Little extra room but not loose. I’m B width on Brannock but I usually wear D or even E because of toe rub.
Great comparison of the two lasts. I have one of the prototype stitchdown models from earlier this year but that last was still very much a work in progress. The sizing was very generous. Even going a full size down I'm still looking for ways to take up some of the extra volume (kilties and thicker leather laces so far). The 602M fits me better than the 602 which I have to wear thinner socks with. I think I would really like this final version of the 618.
Interesting. I saw Bootlosophy's video on the last in progress and I could tell it looked quite different from the final version. Having said that, I do fit better into the 602M last as well.
Looks like the 2030 last?
Perhaps it is based on that last, but I would not know.
Not really, it's its own thing which is good
Parkhurst is the best design and fit for me. 602M and 618 lasts are excellent! 👌
This is definitely the last for me. I love a snug heel with lots of room across the toes. Sounds like the last I’ve been looking for. 😁👍
Some men will definitely appreciate it. Thanks
I've just acquired a very, very similar pair. I had no idea that they could be so old!
Yes, the Fairhaven is usually at least 10 years old, and possibly 20 years.
You could SUN FADE them to make them lighter, but I agree I don't like to be lied to about something I wanted to purchase.
Thanks, and I have thought about it. I might do that.
If you think Diesel’s are heavy, try the Brass Boot. They’re over 2 pounds 😅 Your take on GS’s being tanks, stiff and needing tight lacing is spot on. You have to cinch the lacing tight all the way up and let the leather yield to your instep. I own an Edward in Color 8 and wore them with a navy and grey suit everyday. They broke in beautifully. The weight is still there. Not like kicking around in my Higgins Mills. But I still prefer the heftier leather and solid build construction of GS. Really enjoy the great detail and pacing of your review videos. Exceptional!!
Thank you! I've heard a lot of good things about the brass boots, but I do not own them.
How do these boots look now?
Not a lot different, but a little darker. I might do a follow up video one day to show where they are at.
Green, grey, blue all in one boot. What a color!
I like your videos, but there are some biased and incorrect information in this one.. Kudu leather is definitely softer and more supple than CXL leather. I have several kudu shoes/boots, and they are softer and lighter than the CXL, and required no break-in. I'm also not a fan of your and other American vloggers' efforts to idealize the construction of GS boots. It only shows incompetence and activism. The fact that all parts of the shoe are leather does not have to be a sign of a higher quality GS shoe or their construction compared to e.g. AE Higgins mill boots. The manufacturer combines various materials in order to produce a shoe with such features that he knows from experience that his customer demands and appreciates. Not everything is motivated to save on materials. By the way, the leather is heavier and less flexible also due to the fact that the skin of an older animal is used. Such leather is of lower quality and is also cheaper. And GS does not provide such information anywhere. For example, the leathers that GS used for their Edward Natural Minerva or Cap toe British Tan Calf boots are very hard/stiff, inflexible, and even after 1-3 years of wear, they do not soften and are not really comfortable. I wouldn't be surprised if it was a second grade hide from an old animal. In these cases, I don't really care how "quality" the construction of the shoe is. Most of the shoes/boots I have are from Tricker`s, AE, GS, Loake and Sanders, but I have also tried (and returned) boots/shoes from other manufacturers (see below). And it is interesting that boots from Tricker`s and other English manufacturers are mostly lighter than GS, while their construction is just as strong, they are tankers, using the highest quality materials. I feel that you American vloggers only present popular manufacturers with strong marketing, thus limiting yourself to comparing only about 10 American manufacturers (GS, AE, Caswell, Parkhurst, Alden, Nicks, Red Wing, Truman, theoakstreet.., or low-quality Thursdayboot ).. Under this influence, you often spread simplified stories, for example, obsession with the stitch density, all-leather construction, singing the praises of CXL leather, etc. It would not hurt to look, for example, at English or Italian production, and recognize their great tradition and quality. Anyway, thanks for your video reviews and fingers crossed!
Well, I will say that I am a huge fan of British constructed shoes and boots. I have been trying to get my hands on Trickers for a while. I know they are made as well any other company out there. It's just hard to find something in my size that is available for a reasonable price. Having said that, I do have a video in the works on a Trickers model, but we'll see if it happens. I have several videos I'm working on right now. Thanks for watching even if you don't agree with my opinions (I never said my videos are unbiased). :)
The Trickers Robert derby also makes a similar style to the Lanark 3 .
Thanks. I'm currently looking into Trickers a lot. They have some interesting options. Price is tricky, but occasionally good deals can be found. I almost ordered a Robert in gray suede last year that was on clearance, but it sold out.
@@chalkboardshoes They have a summer sale on now The gray sand suede is available..
I saw that, but I really want a gray suede (not the sand). But I want to ask you, is the Robert last very roomy at the instep and ball? There's a pair on Ebay in gray suede, but it's 1/2 size larger than my usual size. It's a very good price, but not sure if the fit will be too large.
@@chalkboardshoes The honest answer is I don’t know. My shoe size is UK 9 and my tricker Stows fit perfectly, as my feet are flat and wide, with plenty of room at the instep and ball. I do believe that there will be plenty of room at the instep and ball and that perhaps the 1/2 size larger than your normal size maybe too big for you. Trickers in general fit my wide feet really well.
Yeah, if the AE store was going to make the effort of helping you get a lighter pair, that’s on them to make sure they have it right, even if some time goes by. If it sold, they should have told you so.
Get the Jungle Kangaroo leather in holiday sale; that's my first Diesel boot, and I couldn't be happier.
I've heard that one is very comfortable due to the kangaroo leather.
Another excellent video! When revenue is low, employees lie to make the sale. Here's a thought. Are you willing to pay AE $700 USD for 1980's shoe quality standards? There are more frugal buyers in the marketplace than the buyers willing to spend $700 USD without hesitation. Demands by buyers effect how a company will adjust itself to survive. Mike
Good points. I don't think most would be willing to spend that kind of money now. However, some people would. Alden still gets a lot of business at their prices. But there's no way AE could produce the level of quality needed with the current high output.
@@chalkboardshoes I think AE can still make 1980's shoe quality through their customization shop. Currently charging $525 USD for suede and smooth leather. This made-to-order method can reach the buyers willing to spend money for quality. In addition, they can still mass produce your favourite shoe (dress sneakers). Just kidding about the dress sneakers remark. :-) Alden is different can of worm. My size is not in their inventory. The Seattle shop for Alden never got back to me, so I took my business somewhere else. Good to have options.
@@MikeZ709 I've been interested in the AE custom option, but they don't yet have a leather I want.
@_Stay_Curious Well... you're going to have wait or find another shoe company to make your shoes with the leather you desire.
Love your videos! I have a pair of 1992 Richmond Burgundy long wings that were practically brand new for $25! I absolutely adore them. Thank you for all knowledge in regard to Allen Edmonds as it has taught me a lot. I have about 5 pairs at the moment! I tend to look for good used condition shoes on places like eBay as, even though I’m only 23, I prefer traditional welted shoes whereas AE’s current catalog is slowly turning into more cemented constructed shoes.
Love your videos. Thank you for the hard work.
What an absolute score, bro. Congrats. I have a pair of late 80s McAllisters in the black polished cobbler and I can say that they even fit a little “better” than modern counterparts.
Maybe slightly more generous for me than the newer shoes, which is good for me.
@@chalkboardshoes Yes, exactly. I just sold 2 pair of contemporary McAllisters on eBay (10eee) because they felt too tight. Totally weird. I have other pairs from the same period that fit fine. Definitely more variance.
@@VincentGeorgeOnSF Did you notice I mentioned you in the video? I think with sizing , it varies a lot more with modern AE. It's very unpredictable.
@@chalkboardshoes I was honored and flattered :)
If you find something you want and you don't jump on it when it's available, you lose. Waiting until the next sale shouldn't be a strategy if getting something so hard to find is at issue. I agree completely that the store shouldn't jerk you around and/or lie, but you also should have bought what you wanted when you knew they had them. You can lighten them up with some acetone to strip off much of the factory finish and re-dye them in the shade you actually want. It's not hard nor expensive to do. Only when you get into patinas does it get challenging. That having been said, I'm done with Allen Edmonds dress shoes. The last pair of Strands that I bought were atrocious. Not factory seconds and not on sale either. I bought a pair of navy blue shell cordovan Strands and a pair of suede Strandmoks. The Strandmoks were fine, but the shell cordovan Strands looked like they were made by an amateur. Flaws in the cordovan, crooked stitching and crooked seams. It's unfortunate, but they just aren't the company they were years ago and their quality and workmanship have gone down the toilet. I have several pairs of Allen Edmonds I got new back in the 80's and 90's when they were known as a true luxury brand and something any well dressed man would aspire to own. As you pointed out with your 1987 McAllisters, they are no longer the same shoes. I actually do like their new line of casual shoes with the sneaker soles (the slip-on's and not the oxford styles) and I have several pairs of them in both suede and leather. I particularly like the Randolf slip on sneakers in both the penny loafer form and the bit loafer form. Have them both in a few colors. Same with the Hayes and Sebastian. I'm completely satisfied with the quality of these shoes and they are hands down 10 times better than the similar looking offerings from Cole Haan, Aldo or other similar brands. I also bought them on sale. Doubt I would pay full retail for them, but they are worth it when they are $250 or below. I paid less than $200 for all of mine but 1 pair. I have switched to TLB Mallorca, Carmina and Crockett & Jones for my dress shoes (oxfords and loafers) now. TLB Mallorca, in particular, is a major bargain when you can have a pair of their main-line shoes made to order with your choice of leather or suede and your choice of soles, stitching, etc all for just over $400 and the Artista line for under $500, plus the quality & finishing are downright amazing. I think Alden had the right idea.......keep quality the same and raise the prices. It would be an interesting exercise to see you do a side-by-side comparison of your 1987 McAllisters and a current day pair to show the changes and obvious differences in quality. It really shows in the stitching and finishing.
Fair points (about the timing and waiting). I might take up your suggestion about comparing in quality. Thanks for your interesting comment.
Great video, just bought these. I am about to check if you did your follow on year review right after this video.
I would suggest watching my most recent video on Grant Stone, which kind of goes into the situation.
I love my Grant Stones. The only thing I don’t like is the eyelets.
Too big?
@@chalkboardshoes That and they just look off to me. Almost flat. I still like them but wish they had just the basic eyelets that come one heritage type boots
Knows bros call out! Love it. That guy is hilarious
yes, he is
My brown CXL Diesels are super broken in and I have no heel slip. They are my best all day, 20,000 step a day boots. I have a new pair of Vibergs that may beat them, once they break in, but GS is incredible value. I think the all leather construction just takes time. Totally worth it. The only GS product that I have that is resisting break in is the tan calf cap toe boot. That is a stern leather. My saddle tan Diesels broke in very well. The forest kudu cap toe can pinch my toes but I have that issue with most cap toes. I just think it’s a pinch point for me.
When you say brown, do you mean the natural cxl color?
@@chalkboardshoes no, they call it Crimson, but I believe that is just Horween Brown CXL. I have a couple things in natty CXL and I just don’t find it to be a very versatile color. Whereas I can hike in mine and brush them off and go to a nice dinner.
Ah yes, I forgot about the crimson color. Seems like it's kind of overlooked.
Totally agree with the heel slip, I have the black cxl with leather outsoles. i really have to have them snug. If it's too loose my foot shakes around and if too tight it's just uncomfy
You’re sized wrong then
@@whereRbearsTeeth in terms of the size or width?
It's hard to say for sure without seeing your feet, but it sounds like the last might just not be great for you. Or it just needs more breaking in?
@@chalkboardshoesseemed like i did size them half a width small
Top notch. I'm glad GS recognized your reviews and sent you these boots.
Thanks Mr. George!
I have the same 2 pairs of Grant Stone boots as shown & discussed in this video, the Edward & Diesel boots in Natural Minerva & Navy CXL respectively. My GS Field boots are in dark burgundy Kudu. I ordered the Edward first, 1/2 size down from my Brannock size and they pinched in the toes, had to exchange for 1/2 size larger, my true Brannock. I ordered the Field boots next in my true Brannock but they were significantly loose. I could not exchange them since they were purchased as a B Grade but they fit well using a foam insole and thick socks. The Kudu leather was soft & supple. It's odd that you found them stiffer than CXL. I have had no difficulty or discomfort breaking in any of them, although that's still ongoing. In conclusion, FWIW the GS Floyd last (Field, Brass boots) is considerably more roomy than their Leo last (Edward & Diesel) and it was a mistake to assume that I needed the same size in each type. I purchased both the Field and Diesel boots as B grade and it is virtually impossible to identify any defects in either. GS B Grades are superb value at around $240/pr., just make sure you know your correct sizing as they are final sale.
It seems most people feel the kudu is soft or similar to cxl, so I'm not sure why my experience is different.
I want to mention one thing - you said no other manufacturer puts as much leather in the construction as Grant Stone does at this price range. I would argue Parkhurst is comparable, and maybe even better in some regards (e.g. external heel counter cover is actually a cover).
I have wanted to try Parkhurst for a long time, but the problem is they always sell out in my size very quickly. They are similar in price, for sure.
@@chalkboardshoes I prefer them to Grant Stone in many ways. I hope you get a chance to check them out!
I own several boots from both brands. I think GS builds a better boot.
@@whereRbearsTeeth We'll have to disagree then! I think Grant Stone's finishing is better, but I definitely prefer my Parkhursts.
@@subhasish-mWhy do you prefer them?
Another great video.
Thanks Jon. Have I convinced you to try Grant Stone?
I'm surprised you found the Kudu tougher to break in than CXL. Both the reverse Snuff and Storm Kudus were more supple than CXL to me, although all are quite soft and comfortable, especially compared to GS's calf and Minerva offerings. Only the suede and Kangaroo options are softer in my experience. Haven't tried the bison but I hear that is also very soft.
It was surprising to me as well. I guess I could also consider Kangaroo. Do you have any experience with the waxed commander?
@@chalkboardshoes Yes it's just a little bit stiffer than CXL to start and wears in very nicely. I want that rawhide waxy commander that Viberg uses.
Leo is one of the most comfortable lasts for me. And GS us one of my top 3 favourite brands , solid bang for the buck. Especially their B grades which are brilliant. I have multiple pairs from GS and pretty much enjoy all of them.
Nothing works with denim. Denim is the worst looking material if you want to look nice denim is perfect for labor
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Wait you said this video was a sponsored video but then you also said #3 @ 2:13 you said “is this my favorite pair of GS boot you bought so far.” I’m confused. Did you buy these or were they given to you? Not a big deal but I had to play it a few times because I was confused. Thanks in advance!
I noticed that error when I finished the video. I meant to say "gotten" not "bought". They were a gift.
Good review. For me it all about the last. GS is not best for me. Only boot I need E width to be comfortable. Probably my fault but I can't stop my tan Essex diesels from squeaking in the sole after got them wet.
That's interesting because I've found the Leo to be a wide last in general. You're right though in that lasts will be hit or miss for all of us.
@@chalkboardshoes I know. Guess all feet are different. Big toe gets pushed in on leo 10D but a 55 lasted Nicks in 10 C is good. I only buy one brand of boot now. Not Nicks.
Whites is having a clearance on their whites reserve boots. They're the same dress/casual style. You should check them out, you may really like them.
I've heard good things about Whites. Thanks for letting me know