Hawker Typhoon - Typhoon Legacy Co. Ltd.
Hawker Typhoon - Typhoon Legacy Co. Ltd.
Follow along with great detail as we rebuild Typhoon JP843 from the ground up!
With only one complete Typhoon remaining of over 3,300 built, the rebuild will not only add a second of its type in the world, but also return a Typhoon to the skies.
With so little surviving structure and data to work with, every component will require significant research and development to ensure the final aircraft is rebuilt to the same standards as the original. We will go into great details about the aircraft, design, and techniques used to bring this legendary aircraft back to life!
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Hi Ian, fascinating as always please can you release more content on the channel
Westland Whirlwind bubble canopy ????
You are correct good Sir! A few have corrected me on this, thank you! ~Ian
Really nice video and story. I wonder what the fascination is, outside the raw power and history.. I think it has to do how we’re fascinated by things that are made well, with conscience and intent. The human dimension.. It’s art really.
Interesting comment from Ian regarding the bubble canopy being first introduced on a Typhoon prototype. I was under the impression that the first use of this style canopy would have been on a Westland Whirlwind.
Based on some feedback on this video I believe you are correct, it was my error. ~Ian
Ian is a legend for all the work building the most underappreciated aircraft .
Enjoyed every second of this video. Keep them coming
Excellent Podcast which explains a great deal more about the aircraft and the project. Noticed you avoided the controversy with the parallel Typhoon project in the UK that refuses to work together with your project. Considering the enormity of the task to put one of these types in the air it's a complete travesty. This attitude will only delay both projects and could ultimately result in neither getting off the ground. And for what, just to have the bragging rights of being the only restoration in the world of an airworthy Typhoon and hence attract more money. Shame on them. Wish you all the best Ian. I truly admire your passion and confidence. BTW, I see that Kermit Weeks has a Napier Sabre that he's getting overhauled for his Tempest V by Richard Grace I think?
The P-36 (Curtiss Hawk) and P-40s all had retractable tailwheels and were all in service prior to the Typhoon.
Very much appreciated, thank you for the information! ~Ian
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The Westland Whirlwind had both a sliding bubble canopy and retractable tailwheel in 1938. Way before the Typhoon.
Ooooh! Great point, how did I miss this! Thank you Andy! ~Ian
Great content but there were far too many negative comments from Brad about the constant failures . It was a desparate race to beat the opponent at what ever cost so mistakes were bound to occur . Ian's dedication is total .
Bob Coplamd worked with Cam ay Hawker and he was a great designer.
Excellent video, thanks. As to the CO problem, seems to me that the combination of poor firewall sealing and vacuum on the cockpit probably sucked the exhaust into the cockpit through the firewall causing the CO poisoning crashes. Cheers! Would be nice to see the fuselage parts discussed, too, like the aft join section and balances.
Again very informative, thank you. Just recently ordered some T-shirts, they are very nice!
Fascinating! Thanks Ian and Brad.
P51 Mustangs and P47 Thunderbolts had retractable tailwheels as did MK VIII Spitfires and several later marks. I suppose first British fighter/bomber to have a retractable tailwheel since the MK VIII Spitfire came after Typhoon?
FYI, Republic Aircraft in the US requested a Typhoon canopy from Hawkers, and it was grafted onto a P-47, becoming the first "Bubble-Top Jug" in the process !
Good stuff. Just like to point out that the Comet failures wasn't due to the square windows, that's a myth. Cracks started from the rivet holes around the airborne radar unit on the roof, This was due to the change from drilling/reaming to punching holes, the punched holes left microcracks, cycllic fatigue did the rest.
Thank you very much for this excellent information, I had not heard of this previously. It is interesting that they started off drilling and switched to punching, do you know why this was done?
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd I believe cost savings.......that backfired didn't it!
@@bazwabat1 the bean counters got their way and the aircraft had a good few crashes and killed many passengers. Thus killing off the Comet. Even after the cause of the structural failure was found and rectified De Havilland knew they were trying to flog dead horses as it were.
You should focus your podcasts on what is an important project, rather than wasting time with comparisons to the Spitfire. Without doubt, the Spitfire has received a disproportionate amount of attention and credit for its role during World War II. Few historians or subject matter experts doubt the importance of Hawker Hurricanes, Typhoons, Tempests and other designs throughout WWII. part of our task is keeping the public engaged and interested in our history. It really doesn't matter whether one aircraft type gets more credit or attention than another. As aviation enthusiasts, all we can hope for is that we keep historical events and these valuable assets at the front of peoples' minds, along with the sacrifices of those who flew them. I look forward to watching more updates on the Typhoon.
@@businessjetguru1298 Well said Sir😊
Did you feel the focus of this episode was on aircraft other than the Typhoon?
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd no the main focus was about the Typoon
The dedication not to mention cost of this project is staggering. How wonderful that this work is being undertaken with such stalwart persistence. What a day it will be to see and hear the first flight.
You said it could fly faster than any other fighter. You probably meant Piston fighter. 262 would leave it in the dust.
Yes it was referring to piston fighters, the 262 was not operational when the Typhoon entered into service.
Ian, I haven’t seen a hands on construction video in some time. Love seeing the process of taking a raw piece of aluminium, cutting, pounding, shaping, stretching/compressing, heat treating and installing to make the required structures and components. I know the production of videos is time consuming but are there plans for additional construction videos?
Indeed there are, just taking care of some work that is not good for those types of videos now.
Great interview gentlemen! I met a veteran several times who flew the Typhoon. FL Ed McKay. I just had a visual of him in his 20’s with an O2 mask, aware of the tail issues, cranking up the huge Sabre engine heading off on a post D-day bombing mission. Wow! Brave guys…
The tiffy is a cool aircraft
Hi from NZ the Spitfire MKVIII was the first to have a retractable tail wheel and the MK VIII evolved on to be the MKXIV with the RR Griffan engine and 5 bladed prop. built in high back and low back variants.
Oh excellent! Was this the first fighter to have the retractable tailwheel, or the firs Spitty Mk?
Westland Whirlwind had a retractable tailwheel in 1938. Way before the Spitty.
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just for facts. the typhoon were not faster than the german dornier 335 .
The Dornier 335 did not enter combat operations, so I am not sure it’s a reasonable comparison.
The comments are refer to the time the Typhoon entered service, the 335 didn't fly until '43.
Some variants of the Spit did have a retractable tailwheel. So did the P-51.
I think Brad's comment referred to the timeline of the Typhoon being the first; it is news to me! Do you know if the Spits and Mustangs had them as early as the Typhoon's entrance into service?
You had types such as the Curtiss P36 which had a retractable tail wheel too. They entered service in 1938.
Message for Ian, the Typhoon was the first Allied production fighter to fly with a bubble canopy, the first Allied fighter was the Miles M.20 way back in 1940. As a very pioneering company Miles' design improvements were incorporated into many competitor's aircraft, Hawkers being one. It could be that Miles was associated with Martin Baker who were just up the road so to speak and were pioneering canopy design at that time in the UK. I must dig out my Miles aircraft book to find out. Of course the Fw 190 lead the way right back in 1939.
The Miles M.20 had some interesting design features, the bubble canopy chief among them, but was a bit of an anachronism with its fixed-gear undercarriage. There were very good reasons that it was never approved for production.
@@paulm749 I totally agree but the Air Ministry had to act fast after the fall of France knowing that the Luftwaffe would specifically target aircraft production centres. After Woolston and Filton were both heavily damaged it must have been touch and go as to whether production of the M.20 should be commenced and even with the fixed gear, which was preferred for speed of production and to enable the fitment of 12 machine guns, it's performance was in excess of the Hurricane.
@@paulm749, the Miles M.20 was thought as an “emergency fighter” built primarily from non-strategic materials such as wood in case the production of Spitfires and Hurricanes should become disrupted by bombing. The emergency never arose.
Wonderful note, thank you!
Westland Whirlwind precedes that by 2 years…
Did the Westland Whirlwind possess a retractable tailwheel?
Yes, it does
Iam a huge Hawker fan my favourite fighter is the Hurricane but i like the Typhoon and Tempest also. Great video guys,thankyou.
My Grandad made gigs that were used to assemble wellington bombers during WW2. I know he took a great deal of pride in his work, it was his chance to make a difference in WW2. These craftsmen were the unsung heroes of the war. They were never in the headlines yet without them we would not have won. A great video of a truly amazing aircraft best wishes to you from NZ.
Indeed, you really have to work to find information on maintainers, it is even harder to find details on the factory workers that did the impossible!
My all time favourite aircraft,been following this project for years.I’m 83 now so I’m beginning to think that I’m going to miss the wonderful day of first flight.Geoff
Hang on in there. We’ll make it. 😊
I do like the Tempest Mk1, I've been making a flying model for some time. There is a very good book By Pierre Closterman not sure about that spelling, Its called the big Show, he talks about flying the Typhoon in action, i was fortunate enough to have Lunch with his best friend in Khon Kean Thailand, another interesting man. I am 73 and understand your statement, but life is full of surprises so we must not think like that. Having said that it does cross my mind. Keep safe out there.
@@williamkennedy5492 Yes it’s a good book I can also recommend a book by Roland Beamond
@@bigmac60kind words thank you
We will do our best!
I know you had talked to Kermit Weeks before and didn't get anywhere but I'd like to bring something to your attention. He has two Sabres, a V and a IIA. His mechanic recommended that he try trading the IIA for a sectioned VII for parts. I would strongly recommend contacting him because you have a sectioned VII and you may be able to trade it for his complete IIA.
Kermit has always helped where he can.
I know you had talked to Kermit Weeks before and didn't get anywhere but I'd like to bring something to your attention. He has two Sabres, a V and a IIA. His mechanic recommended that he try trading the IIA for a sectioned VII for parts. I would strongly recommend contacting him because you have a sectioned VII and you may be able to trade it for his complete IIA.
Makes me think that the human race was at it"s peak of intelligence from the 40's through to the late 60's.Then came computers. And here comes AI folks.Take the a380 airbus for example .. when the person who signs off on the wiring loom retires,the next person is gonna say "hey ,don't look at me".Gotta hand it to the mechanics and engineers of old.
They were amazing people at that time.
Thanks for comprehensive video. I live 200ft below Spitfires taking off and landing from Goodwood, Battle of Britain RAF Westhampnett in the South-East UK. During a dawn patrol Spitfire practice aerodisplay overhead the cottage two weeks ago, I just randomly googled whether BTH magnetos were fitted to Merlins to find they seemed to have been fitted to all Merlins and Griffons through the war. They feature so much in the classic car and motorracing world at Goodwood too. The 'T' for Thomson (in BTH British Thomson-Houston) was my father's mother's side, Thomson being her maiden name from her family that established the company. It gives quite a connection now as I look up to hear or see the Spitfires daily here. Canada-wise, I also learnt to fly myself up in Peace River, Alberta.
What is the intro / outro song?
"Humanity" by Scott Holmes ~Ian
I'm sure you know this already ... Kermit Weeks is re starting his Tempas 5 build. He has two engines, 1 early and 1 later. Kermit just shipped it back to England to finish it. He not going to use the early one and talked about maybe trading it for a cut away for his museum. Always look for your videos, look forward to an update.
Thank you! It's always better to hear things twice than to miss out completely! Wonderful news to hear any advancement on Sabre overhaul! ~Ian
Canada was always first to help the old country in war and paid a high price that's why I love Canadians.
I have just read that the Southampton Aviation Museum (in UK) has a Napier. I have no idea of it's condition or even if they still have it, but I would believe that a museum would be happy to have a cut-away engine as a display, and it seems worth exploring further to exchange these engines.
They sure do, on loan from BHT. ~Ian
@@TyphoonLegacyCoLtd ? Approach to BHT??
Imagine how much one of these would set you back..100-200 grand? Burn a big hole in your pocket....
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I have followed your rebuilding of this aircraft for many years and even have a t shirt but can’t believe you have been interested in this restoration since you were 12yrs old. Makes me even more determined to live long enough to see JP843 fly again and honour the kiwi pilot Richard price who died bailing out of it so long ago. Well done getting this far and still making progress.
Wonderful commitment and enthusiasm, thank you from the UK
I appreciate your support! ~Ian
hi i was really impressed with this vid so i have donated 10 cad plus fees. not much but i hope it helps
Your donation is sincerely appreciated, thank you very much! ~Ian
I've always loved that aircraft...
Great seeing the message get out there to other people….hopefully these podcasts will add to the roster of us supporters!
Read the book “The Day of the Typhoon”. Anyone that says their input was exaggerated is humbled by reality. Alone they stopped a massive German Armoured column about to wipe out a forward US contingent. Read the book! It was was written by a Typhoon Pilot who was there and corroborated by local French and US troops in the area.
This guy is a god send regarding saving English WW2 aviation history. The world is lucky to have his type.
BRITISH not English!