The Lovely Grind by Michael Priebe offers tips and advice for total health, professional fulfillment, and soulful living. This site offers spiritual inspiration, practical health and productivity suggestions, and advice and motivation for getting off of prescription medications and/or surviving prescription drug withdrawal (i.e., surviving antidepressant withdrawal and benzodiazepine withdrawal from drugs such as Paxil, Xanax, Klonopin, Effexor, Prozac, and other SSRI, SNRI, and tranquilizer drugs). Advice on this site is not medical advice and not meant to replace consultation with medical professionals. Sign up for the mailing list at www.lovelygrind.com to get every new blog post.
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Ignore horror stories? Pretty hard to ignore when you see and experience yourself someone or yourself being in middle of the most horrific story ever made Real. The paranoia, delirium attacks (READ if anyone here knows what a real delirium because of alcohol and benzos&/sleeping pills feels like, can not say anything about them. It is literally the worst, the Worst absolute evil i have ever experienced (i have had about 20 of these which have ended in epileptic seizure (i have no epilepcy naturally), included severe epileptic seisurez, Thinking positively will-not-help-a-bit when you are really addicted to something like benzos or sleeping pills, praying won´t help, no, there is no god coming down to save you from medical withdrawal. Only dropping the dosage with a R-e-a-l doctor is reasonable, some people can also do it themselves, but it is hard to drop the amount. This video is dangerous, truly. Someone will die because he or she ignores the horror stories about someone literally going insane for the rest of his/her life or die from withdrawal. You can check i t up, many do die from benzo and sleeping pill withdrawal. Not alking about SSRI and other bullshit medication (which are no more in my country even supported to insomnia for example anymore, because causes more harm than helps in that case), but like Zopinclone, Temazepam, Diazepam, Oxepam etc etc. Please, if you are and serious addict, please take professional help only without internet videos. Someone will lose their mental healht or die because of these kind of videos.
Oh a little mistake there, i have to add that "anyone who has had a reak delirium attack because of alcohol/benzo/sleeping pills knows this very well" that self suggestion/meditation etc does-not-help at all. They are really dangerous withdrawals with real problems. I can see that you have not been really addicted with a big R. This video is a problem.
Hello Michael I’m 12 days off from mirtazapane I’m going through so much mental pain I’m scared to lose hope
Why im not enjoying ciggerates Like if i quit the cigarettes symptoms appears but if continue im not enjoying Im off paxil for 13 months went cold turkey Life here in india is not easy especially if you r overcoming Nyhow im improving slowly and steadily Sad part is no one can understand that withdrawal in this part of world Staying close to God being a Muslim if i miss one prayers it make me more regretful and resulting into total disconnection to God
Thats alchol story is true to me Im a farmer in india, life here in india is not easy as yours One day i was picking up the bundles of wheat for threshers When i was off paxil for 4 months went cold turkey due to financial issues That thresher owners said me that you are on marijuana, i said no, he like i have an experience of 40 years on marijuna how you can deny that Then three or four guys banged on me and searched my whole body if there is any stuff I was so demotivated that time that I wasn't able to retaliate them Being a cricket player on any other day i would have punched those guys That day i realise im a moving corpse Its been 13 months feeling little better apart from reading, creative and social interactions and facing some periodical episodes of anxiety, Past regrets, body fatigue even doing small physical activities You are right spirit is important but i cant perform the namaz which are compulsory in my religion But one thing is sure that things will improve slowly and steadily
How should i cope with low learning skills Im off of paxil since 13 months?
Im living current in a absolut nightmare bcs i was following my doctors advices to quit seroquel 50 mg cold Turkey. Im in then week 12 not. And it feels that i never gonna recover completley again. I really need help am gratefull for any tipp or advice 🙏
Thanks Michael. One of the positive coaches that helped me during my journey. 🙌
Happy to have found your channel! God is using you in amazing ways. Thank you for confirming to me that the withdrawal symptoms are not permanent. I needed to hear that today. God bless
Good man.....yes ptsd....is my main symptom and also neuropathy...... 5 months ativan 1mg 1.25mg..... Hell on fire 11 weeks 100km an hour anxiety 12th week base ball bat hit back of brain..... Dead calm 11 days... Then back to symtpoms yet 50% as strong ..took 4.5 months to have days feeling what normal felt like....i have 4.5 months to go to heal. Only half way.....given to it by my bf that was a doctor...hes a psychopath. ..
This this is the worst advice I have ever heard. If you're tapering off psych meds, tell your doctor, tell your friends go as slow as you need to using a hyperbolic taper. If you don't know what that is check it out on Google.
Thank you for sharing the supportive comments Michael. I'll always be thankful for your channel. My last dose of lorazepam was in June of last year and I'm extremely grateful the withdrawal pains, while horrific two days after my last dose, eventually subsided and I was free of the drug the following month. This was after stopping the trazodone earlier last year in April. Hearing the success stories of others is an important lifeline on this healing journey. I should let you know that I am soon to be moving to a new city at the end of this week and I will finally be working again next month after spending most of this year unemployed and struggling. Onward and upward.
Onward and upward indeed! Way to go on your continued progress - in life, in healing. Keep up the good work and progress! Stay strong, stay encouraged.
Thanks for sharing Michael, I am currently going through a rough patch! And although I have been blessed with lots of healing, I am still recovering and it can be tough when it's been going on for years. So thank you for reading Joseph's positive message and sharing how long it took for him to heal. It keeps hope alive, that light at the end of the tunnel is waiting for us all. God bless 💞🙏🕊️
Hugs, encouragement, and God's blessings to you, Kelly, as you move through this rough patch. You will get through. You've come so far and there is so much to be proud of. Also a lot to look forward to. You might get tired, but don't lose heart. The light is still waiting and there for you. Keep at it and remember that every day is moving you forward. That is the truth!
Hi Michael. Thank you for sharing my comment in this video. I'm so pleased to be able to share this good news and I'm really glad that you have read it out here for more people to be able to hear it, and hopefully it will offer some hope to people. I'll try and ad a few more details about my healing. All of the symptoms have gone and I am healthy and happy and living a great life. I would say that it took about 4 years for me to heal. Because I have been well and free from symptoms for about a year and a half now. It's not just a window or a false dawn, but a very steady and stable recovery. I completely agree that the time lines are different for different people. It's really not helpful to focus on how long it's going to take. It's much better to just focus on the fact that eventually we do all heal. Also, just because some of us may have been suffering for a long time, that doesn't mean that you won't still heal. It took me a long time but I did heal at the end of it. Healing really does happen, so focus on that and never give up hope. I will always keep watching because the lovely grind really is about total health. Withdrawal is a part of that, but there's so much more to it. Your journey doesn't end once the symptoms go away. So there's so much more here for everybody. Many thanks, Joseph.
Congratulations Joseph on your healing 🎉 and thank you for sharing your healing journey. It's inspirational, you prove keeping hopeful and never giving up truly does pay off. Bless you 💗
Awesome, Joseph! Thanks for checking back in. Sharing your story will no doubt encourage others, it already has. Keep up the passion for the journey, keep moving forward, and yes I hope you keep watching. There is much more out there for everyone! God bless!
Thank you so much for sharing!! I really means the world to know that it can be done:) I just passed the mark and it is still not easy, but it is a year shorter compared to however long it was supposed to be!! Thank you again. God bless!!!
Hello Michael. My story is very similar to yours. I had anxiety and panic in college. I then was 12 years on citalopram (celexa). In march 2023 I discovered EFT tapping was a therapy that actually worked for me. I done an uneducated rapid taper over 3 months and went through challenging withdrawl. Im now 13 months off and seeing big improvements in the last few months. Just want to say thanks for all your great videos. Working my way through them and they are exactly the type of things I need to hear. Keep up the great work! Youre an inspiration.
I’m 3 weeks off and I have a horrible headache every day. It feels like my head is on fire and get a ringing in my ears.
It will get better. Glad you found my channel.
At the end of a Clonazepam taper after 12 years of taking it and I was on Xanax for 10 years before that. My nervous system is whacked out and I'm so anxious. I will be 69 years old in September. I'm leaning into the Lord with everything that I have. This is the hardest thing that I have ever been through. I have stopped putting anything negative or scary in my eye gates or ears
Huge congratulations on all your progress, Cathy. I know it is difficult, but it is worthwhile. You have been moving your life in a very positive direction and things will get easier in the future because of the work you've already put in. Keep at it, with faith and hope keep at it and you will see improvements. Thanks for the comments! God bless and keep watching!
@@TheLovelyGrind Thank you and I have been blessed by your videos.
Thank you, Michael, for your positive uplifting videos. God speaks through you and gives us hope.❤
Great Content as usual 😊
@@user-nc2kt8ze7o Thank you! Glad you enjoy!
It takes at least one year average to get off a benzo using a micro taper, water taper, or an Ashton method taper. Look up the videos…. And also to answer the question in the beginning- people keep it private, people are told they are drug addicts even by the Dr. who prescribed them for legitimate medical reasons…Dr.s aren’t trained to assess for benzo WD symptoms- they vary- and some get them after one month, and some not for years… some people get the symptoms while they’re on the medication they’re taking as prescribed and told there is no way the medicine is causing these horrible debilitating symptoms. The doctors don’t provide proper informed consent on how long term use of the medication causes physical dependence- Not addiction- because benzos destroy your GABA a receptors and it can take months or years after a slow micro taper for your receptors to heal. And the symptoms are pure hell and torture. I’m glad Kenny Loggins spoke out because so many people are suffering in isolation and doctors will gaslight the heck out of you and tell you it’s not the benzo when it’s the benzo destroying your entire nervous system. I agree it’s worse than heroin BECAUSE heroin and opiate users have resources, the medical community is knowledgeable about how to help these people, and short term medical detox serves a purpose, whereas none of this is really true for benzoes. It’s a silent crisis with limited resources, and there is integrated support structure in society for these people.
Thanks for videos.
I have consumed alot of internet articles and forums discussing horror stories about tapering and withdrawal..i have so much health anxiety before all of this and i get to bedtime and i worry about not being able to sleep, and im over analysing every sensation in my body. This is awful but your channel is really helping x
So glad you found my channel and I hope it continues to be a source of encouragement, positivity, and common sense!
Hello Michael. Can this happen with Ambien?? I’m 12.5g and 7 years on it every night and what you said from 4:25 onwards made me tear up because it’s how I feel now.
Not sure what the exact question is, but dependence/withdrawal can happen with Ambien. Glad you found the video helpful. Stay encouraged!
Nothing.i was on glutathione supplement.. When i withdrawal lot of symptoms comes.glutathione is an anti oxidant. Then i go to a neurologist he takes me in different anti psychotic drugs for 10 months 10 days..klonopin is the only drug for the whole time..totally prescribed drugs... 1mg klonopin.for.10 mnths 10 days....now cold turkey.4 months....i am surviving power off issues,altered personality fears,no motivation,no energy,stop working mode etc etc when i will fully healed..sir please reply i am only 30 years old..
Nothing.i was on glutathione supplement.. When i withdrawal lot of symptoms comes.glutathione is an anti oxidant. Then i go to a neurologist he takes me in different anti psychotic drugs for 10 months 10 days..klonopin is the only drug for the whole time..totally prescribed drugs... 1mg klonopin.for.10 mnths 10 days....now cold turkey.4 months....i am surviving power off issues,altered personality fears,no motivation,no energy,stop working mode etc etc when i will fully healed..sir please reply i am only 30 years old..
I'm not taking clonazepam (1mg) everyday and i don't know if what I'm feeling are withdrawal symptoms even if I'm not completely out of it yet. Heightened anxiety, crying, pains, muscle weakness, sometimes hard to breathe. Planning to taper my dose fpr a more gradual and safer approach. I just think it's making me more anxious while being on it.
In the long run benzos don't cure anxiety, and they can make it worse for various reasons. Glad to hear you have goals to move in a better direction. Glad you enjoyed the video!
@@TheLovelyGrind i'm just taking it for almost 2 months 🥲 how do you deal with the anxiety that comes after stopping it? And also the feeling of crying and sadness
Wow, my mind is doing that "Replay of Life Mistakes" thing Today! Replaying my last thirty years of bad career decisions - Why didn't "I" stay with a Wealthy Uncle's company in the 90s ..Blah, blah, blah. Anyway, you get the picture. It's a relentless cascade of mental torture. Why is the past popping in my brain so much anyway?
Wow, I have those very symptoms Today! After about seven months of tapering Paxil, I have five "Good/Normal" days followed by two to three anxiety ridden, spiritually difficult ones. Even so, that's an improvement over the very beginning of my tapering (on Paxil for about almost six years).
Glad to hear about the improvements. It is important to focus on those! Keep up the progress and keep watching!
Love your videos!
Thank you!
Healing is there for everyone. Whether they choose to come off their medication or decide to reinstate or stay on their medication. What is right for one person is very individual. A slow patient led taper is key and it’s so good to see antidepressant withdrawal being more recognised and accepted now. Thanks for spreading awareness of this important topic. 🙌
Your videos have changed my withdrawal to such an awesome degree of positive..thankyou
So glad you found them and I hope you keep watching!
Do you do online coaching to get off of these things because I don’t like doing this alone
Yes, you can get info. at www.lovelygrind.com/coaching.
Thank you for sharing this. I just left the doctors last week. Same thing she just looked at me and said I wouldn’t try to get off this even after 25 years because she knew deep down that it was going to be difficult to get off from mirtazapine, so I have to do it all by myself. Every time I go in there they tell me that mirtazapine is not difficult to get off of. We do not know why you have such a problem.
Please I’ve been on mirtazapine for 25 year s and now want off. Begging God. 15 mg tablets daily. I have only negative stories and my doctor isn’t helpful at all. I’m a Christian/catholic very devoted to my spiritual growth. Times are getting tough and I want off this before I can’t get it anymore. I never should have started it
I've been on 25mg Sertraline for 18 months and want to come off. Is there hope
Absolutely!
@@TheLovelyGrind Thank you I've been off for 5 days, doing well so far really trying to eat healthier and exercise.
I tapered too fast almost a year ago, and it left me with some lingering symptoms. But through that rapid taper, I felt positive, and was in a good headspace; the withdrawals were there, but I had hope and kept going. I got down to 8mg diazepam from 1mg klonopin (over halfway there). My life fell apart after that due to other factors, and I lost hope. I’m still struggling to find that hope. But now when I reduce my dose, it’s awful. Not because I’m getting worse symptoms, but because I let hopelessness consume me. I’m still struggling with severe depression and some days I don’t see a way out, but I know that 80% of it is my lack of faith that I will get better and the fact that I’m despairing instead of living. The moment I found the horror stories was the moment the symptoms became unbearable. The minute I manage to leave the house, most of the anxiety disappears. I’m not suffering from the symptoms, I’m suffering because I stopped living. I know I can do this, and you can too.
You're absolutely right. Most people can come off these drugs with minimal discomfort with a proper taper at their own speed. The horror stories will immediately set someone back even if they are one of the majority that can get off without long term issues.
extremely refreshing ☀️ thank you
You're welcome!
Can you help me please? What to do when one single benzo dose triggered severe withdrawl?
Hey Mike, From start to finish how long was your Xanax taper?
I don't have exact records, but it was about 14 months I believe, give or take.
@@TheLovelyGrind Gotcha. Thanks for getting back to me. God Bless!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts and experiences
You're very welcome!
@@TheLovelyGrind Micheal - would you say the Ashton method is a good guide for an Ativan taper. I never hit 3mg a day but I have cut back somewhat slowly over the last few weeks and I’m thinking it might be too little .5 to maybe 1 mg a day. I have only used Ativan for three months if that helps .
Been tapering off 2 mg Xanax for 6 months. Down to .5 now. Almost there. The only bad symptoms have been racing heart and palpitations and wild swings in blood pressure. Used it for insomnia, so I can’t say that was a symptom as I already had that. Benzos are garbage. And I was on a moderately low dose.
They are garbage, getting off them - even if difficult - is worth it in the long run for many reasons!
God bless you
You too!
10 months 10 days on different anti psychotic drugs...prescription drugs..klonopin 1mg for days of 10 mnths 10 days....Today is 3 months 9 days cold turkey.. I was on that treatment because of a silly matter an anti oxidant supplement withdrawal... Called glutathione....today is 3 months 9 days,when i will able to function, can't do anything..
I needed this today. Currently tapering off Paxil and it’s kicking my ass. You make me feel understood and excited about the future, so thank you
Thank you so much, Michael. ❤
Can you still heal if you have reinstated an antidepressant? I couldn't handle the withdrawals after a too fast a taper and have seen improvements over the 4 months since RI but srill struggling on the waves
Roughly 3 years from cold turkey zoloft 100mg and abilify. After three days from quitting, could barely function. It’s almost unbearable to look back at the symptoms and pain I experienced. Luckily I found michael, and used him as my coach after about a month of suffering. Michael provided comfort, perspective and hope. I contemplated going back on because I thought I was damaged beyond repair. We discussed and came to the conclusion to keep moving forward. Slowly I started to heal. After awhile, I could function. After more time I started to thrive. I feel no effects as I sit here today. I work, exercise, eat healthy as I can, work on my relationship with God. I’m a very active participant in life. Thank you Michael for the coaching. I still find tremendous peace when watching your videos. Please keep going! If you are struggling, I recommend using him as a coach.
Awesome, Mike. Thanks for continuing to check in with your powerful updates. I'm so glad to hear of your continued progress. You have put the work in and it is great to hear about how you are doing! Thanks for the update and great testimonial!
By far the most uplifting and positive coach in existence. Thank you for your videos and inspiration. They help me tremendously.
Joshua 1:9 is my power bible verse " Have I not commanded you to be strong and courageous for God is with you all your days" thank you Michael your videos help me so much and have a blessed day.
You're so welcome! Great verse. God gives strength and courage, even when we feel weak and afraid. Move forward with faith, knowing that He is by your side!
Thanks Michael.
You're very welcome. Take care today!
I have been taking 1-2 mg of Ativan for a couple of months while battling anxiety and depression for the first time. I want to start to taper off because I don’t want to keep upping the dose but not sure I’m ready. I am taking SSRI that hopefully will start to work on A/D. Seems like depression has worsened since using Ativan or is that the rebound anxiety I am feeling?
Benzos can cause some lowering of mood/depression, but also rebound anxiety. In any case, those are good reasons to eventually begin a taper, when you feel more ready. The important part is that you are beginning to make a possible plan. Keep planning for ways to move forward, step by step!
Great video, Michael. Can you do one on trying to lose weight while tapering? I have gained over 50lbs while I have been on Lexapro. I believe weight loss is possible.
Not uncommon with AD meds. Me too. Great video idea. God bless!