@4:14 “I like to sit in a rocking chair on a porch and listen to birdsong” cellphone starts blasting. Hilarious irony! 😂
@Adrianomarino2 жыл бұрын
non dice molto dei poeti metafisici!
@Adrianomarino2 жыл бұрын
meravigliosa questa presentazione di John Donne
@ollen5802 жыл бұрын
49:36 Peter Quince at the Clavier I Just as my fingers on these keys Make music, so the self-same sounds On my spirit make a music, too. Music is feeling, then, not sound; And thus it is that what I feel, Here in this room, desiring you, Thinking of your blue-shadowed silk, Is music. It is like the strain Waked in the elders by Susanna: Of a green evening, clear and warm, She bathed in her still garden, while The red-eyed elders, watching, felt The basses of their beings throb In witching chords, and their thin blood Pulse pizzicati of Hosanna. II In the green water, clear and warm, Susanna lay. She searched The touch of springs, And found Concealed imaginings. She sighed, For so much melody. Upon the bank, she stood In the cool Of spent emotions. She felt, among the leaves, The dew Of old devotions. She walked upon the grass, Still quavering. The winds were like her maids, On timid feet, Fetching her woven scarves, Yet wavering. A breath upon her hand Muted the night. She turned-- A cymbal crashed, And roaring horns. III Soon, with a noise like tambourines, Came her attendant Byzantines. They wondered why Susanna cried Against the elders by her side; And as they whispered, the refrain Was like a willow swept by rain. Anon, their lamps' uplifted flame Revealed Susanna and her shame. And then, the simpering Byzantines, Fled, with a noise like tambourines. IV Beauty is momentary in the mind - The fitful tracing of a portal; But in the flesh it is immortal. The body dies; the body's beauty lives, So evenings die, in their green going, A wave, interminably flowing. So gardens die, their meek breath scenting The cowl of Winter, done repenting. So maidens die, to the auroral Celebration of a maiden's choral. Susanna's music touched the bawdy strings Of those white elders; but, escaping, Left only Death's ironic scrapings. Now, in its immortality, it plays On the clear viol of her memory, And makes a constant sacrament of praise.
@rievans574 жыл бұрын
Miss Dubrow is delightful. She is a wonderful ambassador for poetry.
@davol24494 жыл бұрын
my first day at the Graduate Center in 1973, I attended Mandelbaum's Modern Poetry course and was sitting next to Joan Richardson, who was so gorgeous, I was afraid to look at her....
@charlespeterson37982 жыл бұрын
I have been in love with her for 50 years. Her voice broke my heart.
@brutecoan79754 жыл бұрын
Zzzzzzzzzzzz
@johnmartin28135 жыл бұрын
A narrative can contain several stories. But a story cannot contain several narratives.
Stevens poetry attracts academics like this one because they use his work to place themselves on stage, for attention, as interpreters. It is a chance for them to gather attention.
@ravenoversnow7 жыл бұрын
hmmm, While I understand why Joan Richardson shutdown Susan Howe, to then go on and talk without relief herself seems entirely unfair...perhaps I've misread the situation...
@TheLitLass8 жыл бұрын
16:27 beautiful!
@petertaylor66288 жыл бұрын
JLS see Ben waterstone for drink brand new book our story so far introduction photos of oritse willams marvin humes aston merrygold JB Benjamin gill see you on staurday 6th february 2016
@seberry16 жыл бұрын
Why is this here?
@windstorm100010 жыл бұрын
Stevens is 'da bomb'--the best 20th century poet with Robert Frost. By the way, Stevens had a bit of a temper--he got into fights with Hemingway and Frost (with the latter no doubt about realist vs. symbolist imagery). The imagery is bizarre--the best American poet dukin it out with the best American novelist. "Papa' won.
@davol24496 жыл бұрын
wait a minute...are you actually suggesting that Hemingway was in any way remotely the "best American novelist?" I hate to be rude, but, like, are you sure you can actaully READ??
@charlespeterson37986 жыл бұрын
Understand your own mind.
@rapier19545 жыл бұрын
Temper fueled by booze.
@AllendeEtAl4 жыл бұрын
Stevens is magnificent but is not even the best american poet of the 20th Century. Ezra Pound goes first, followed by some.
@marjorybrogan73810 жыл бұрын
Yes..To get her name wrong is a scandal..
@Bothfeetstink11 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love some of these lectures...I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere, this is about the only intelligient conversation I encounter. Thank Gawd for the internet.
@bradleynichols49093 жыл бұрын
Peter Crofts: I feel your pain. Thank you for putting voice to my own frustration.
@davemillar75433 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more.
@Dazbog37311 жыл бұрын
"Poetry and narrative", and Jonathan Culler selects an exemplary LYRIC poem. Schoolboy error.
@martinezgerard11 жыл бұрын
This is wonderful. Ponsot comments are so enlightening. She makes me feel her passion for reading poetry.
@michealjohn719211 жыл бұрын
i love you
@xilix11 жыл бұрын
Or, maybe it's that you take too little time listening. This talk is over 1 1/2 hours long. That's how long it is - that's how long she will speak for. There's a video version of Twitter called 'Vine', you'd probably be much happier taking in the inane information there, as it only requires an attention span of 7 seconds.
@gwedielwch11 жыл бұрын
Marvellous. ... deeply considered thoughts, beautifully constructed sentences, humour, tact, authority ... and such a warm and wonderful voice. Thank you.
@Krigarar11 жыл бұрын
The Apollonian and the Dionysian in Nietzsche's Birth of Tragedy is anything BUT a dichotomy. It is a duplicity ("Duplizität", often mistranslated into English as "duality"). There is a huge difference, which is essential in understanding the whole concept.
@luba144111 жыл бұрын
51.12 (51.25)- Marie you LAD.
@cgStarling11 жыл бұрын
Hate the assholes interupting w/ their goddamn electronics! Could u be more fuckin rude?
@seberry16 жыл бұрын
Language is a gift, isn't it?
@PoetryETrain12 жыл бұрын
Thank you, this has been added to a playlist...
@michealjohn719212 жыл бұрын
SHE TAKES TO LONG TO SPECK ANNOYING
@seberry16 жыл бұрын
Are you, like, over five years old?
@patrickkane39714 жыл бұрын
SPEED UP THE VIDEO LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
@becauseican6612 жыл бұрын
I have an essay on forbidden mourning, one of my favorite poems :)
@mythof113 жыл бұрын
Chaitin puts them all to shame. He is so far ahead of this whole group. He is the only one who has shed his dogmas to open his mind.
@Celedonio_Firpo13 жыл бұрын
embole!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@mikeyo123413 жыл бұрын
He says "nearly infinite" at 6:36. Surely something is either infinite or it is not?
@archie97713 жыл бұрын
i want to join
@REALITY2point013 жыл бұрын
@mebe84 OK.. 30 minutes and I find myself agreeing with theawakener7 so far, so THICK. more to follow when I've had a chance to watch the rest, but the evidence thus far is somewhat unpropitious..
@AAwildeone13 жыл бұрын
So if it was all about IMMEDIACY and "writing on the lark", I suppose Shakespere is the boy to go with!
@Notawesomeatall713 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I enjoyed this.
@PoetryETrain13 жыл бұрын
Thank you this has been added to our playlists here, and on facebook, :)
@hypVideo13 жыл бұрын
i must say the majority of commentators on youtube seem to be about 11 - 14 years old
@libs10613 жыл бұрын
this is superb, thank you very very much!
@BryanDraughn13 жыл бұрын
Are they in a janitor closet?
@22tomiz13 жыл бұрын
nem jo
@BloodWashed4Life13 жыл бұрын
In Hell, there is no air, every breath is a grasp, one never gets to feel that full satisfying fill of air rushing into ones lungs “take a deep breath, feel that beautiful feeling of the air rushing into your lungs” You don’t get to feel that in hell …how do I know there is no air in Hell ? Because God is the breath of life and there is no God in Hell !! God says he’ll mock them, they will grasp out it’s hot here God will reply it’s hot here !!
@JulienNeel13 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great talk. I loved math in school and college, and sure wish my teachers had had the time to portrait the people behind all the theory. School mathematics depicts only the final result of theory, not how people came up with it, made mistakes, how amazing the idea was at the time, etc. We take it all for granted and talks like this make it all come to life. Thanks!
@dlmlewis13 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sorting out Dave Lehman's ancient Greek, JamBrop. Though Lehman's pronunciation of ancient Greek may not be as exemplary as yours, he does seem to know a thing or two about the lecture topic - WH Auden!
@seintzeit13 жыл бұрын
yawn. for thirty minutes...then bam.
@seintzeit13 жыл бұрын
yawn.
@Scream0Sn1pe13 жыл бұрын
@Socksbike I envy you!! How come it wasn't the best of meetings?
@poetrhode13 жыл бұрын
One of my best philoctetes discussions. i listen to this over and over. it is rich and deep, well articulated by these experienced and well-versed poets. thanks a lot. my mind is like a child going to an amusement park.
@Jontor1113 жыл бұрын
For me, I find it difficult to find the true psychological message in this movie. Instead, I think it's all about Hitch's own relationship with women. He always had these divine platinum blond women in his films. And here we got his fantasy make-over of that woman, Madeleine (who never really existed), and he does it twice! The Midge charachter symbolizes more his wife perhaps? Hitch always treated the actors like props in a vision, and here Novak became that vision. The woman you'll never get.
@pawsoned13 жыл бұрын
Although I'm not a fan of poetry I enjoyed this discussion. Thank you very much for bringing such a wonderful panel. P.S.: Jonathan Culler is amazing. I've never seen him before, but only read his books. He's great.
@pawsoned13 жыл бұрын
imo a biography is akin to a dictionary definition conveying the meaning of another word. It's just an image or representation aka a simulacrum that may capture some essential qualities of the person but never entirely her self. More interesting is the effort of autobiography but it's also flawed inasmuch as the author/character is bound to verbalize her entire being and to squeeze it into a narrative form detached from reality by being steeped in the author's subjective viewpoint. Great talk <3
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@4:14 “I like to sit in a rocking chair on a porch and listen to birdsong” cellphone starts blasting. Hilarious irony! 😂
non dice molto dei poeti metafisici!
meravigliosa questa presentazione di John Donne
49:36 Peter Quince at the Clavier I Just as my fingers on these keys Make music, so the self-same sounds On my spirit make a music, too. Music is feeling, then, not sound; And thus it is that what I feel, Here in this room, desiring you, Thinking of your blue-shadowed silk, Is music. It is like the strain Waked in the elders by Susanna: Of a green evening, clear and warm, She bathed in her still garden, while The red-eyed elders, watching, felt The basses of their beings throb In witching chords, and their thin blood Pulse pizzicati of Hosanna. II In the green water, clear and warm, Susanna lay. She searched The touch of springs, And found Concealed imaginings. She sighed, For so much melody. Upon the bank, she stood In the cool Of spent emotions. She felt, among the leaves, The dew Of old devotions. She walked upon the grass, Still quavering. The winds were like her maids, On timid feet, Fetching her woven scarves, Yet wavering. A breath upon her hand Muted the night. She turned-- A cymbal crashed, And roaring horns. III Soon, with a noise like tambourines, Came her attendant Byzantines. They wondered why Susanna cried Against the elders by her side; And as they whispered, the refrain Was like a willow swept by rain. Anon, their lamps' uplifted flame Revealed Susanna and her shame. And then, the simpering Byzantines, Fled, with a noise like tambourines. IV Beauty is momentary in the mind - The fitful tracing of a portal; But in the flesh it is immortal. The body dies; the body's beauty lives, So evenings die, in their green going, A wave, interminably flowing. So gardens die, their meek breath scenting The cowl of Winter, done repenting. So maidens die, to the auroral Celebration of a maiden's choral. Susanna's music touched the bawdy strings Of those white elders; but, escaping, Left only Death's ironic scrapings. Now, in its immortality, it plays On the clear viol of her memory, And makes a constant sacrament of praise.
Miss Dubrow is delightful. She is a wonderful ambassador for poetry.
my first day at the Graduate Center in 1973, I attended Mandelbaum's Modern Poetry course and was sitting next to Joan Richardson, who was so gorgeous, I was afraid to look at her....
I have been in love with her for 50 years. Her voice broke my heart.
Zzzzzzzzzzzz
A narrative can contain several stories. But a story cannot contain several narratives.
uberdriver & scratch-poet @rashaunps wuz here: mfa candidate 2019 @usfmfaw (silicon valley-sf, ca) 1 8 0 3 3 0
uberdriver & scratch-poet @rashaunps wuz here: mfa candidate 2019 @usfmfaw (silicon valley-sf, ca) 1 8 0 2 2 5
Am I alone in finding Susan Howe's talk obscure?
Stevens poetry attracts academics like this one because they use his work to place themselves on stage, for attention, as interpreters. It is a chance for them to gather attention.
hmmm, While I understand why Joan Richardson shutdown Susan Howe, to then go on and talk without relief herself seems entirely unfair...perhaps I've misread the situation...
16:27 beautiful!
JLS see Ben waterstone for drink brand new book our story so far introduction photos of oritse willams marvin humes aston merrygold JB Benjamin gill see you on staurday 6th february 2016
Why is this here?
Stevens is 'da bomb'--the best 20th century poet with Robert Frost. By the way, Stevens had a bit of a temper--he got into fights with Hemingway and Frost (with the latter no doubt about realist vs. symbolist imagery). The imagery is bizarre--the best American poet dukin it out with the best American novelist. "Papa' won.
wait a minute...are you actually suggesting that Hemingway was in any way remotely the "best American novelist?" I hate to be rude, but, like, are you sure you can actaully READ??
Understand your own mind.
Temper fueled by booze.
Stevens is magnificent but is not even the best american poet of the 20th Century. Ezra Pound goes first, followed by some.
Yes..To get her name wrong is a scandal..
Absolutely love some of these lectures...I'm stuck in the middle of nowhere, this is about the only intelligient conversation I encounter. Thank Gawd for the internet.
Peter Crofts: I feel your pain. Thank you for putting voice to my own frustration.
Couldn't agree more.
"Poetry and narrative", and Jonathan Culler selects an exemplary LYRIC poem. Schoolboy error.
This is wonderful. Ponsot comments are so enlightening. She makes me feel her passion for reading poetry.
i love you
Or, maybe it's that you take too little time listening. This talk is over 1 1/2 hours long. That's how long it is - that's how long she will speak for. There's a video version of Twitter called 'Vine', you'd probably be much happier taking in the inane information there, as it only requires an attention span of 7 seconds.
Marvellous. ... deeply considered thoughts, beautifully constructed sentences, humour, tact, authority ... and such a warm and wonderful voice. Thank you.
The Apollonian and the Dionysian in Nietzsche's Birth of Tragedy is anything BUT a dichotomy. It is a duplicity ("Duplizität", often mistranslated into English as "duality"). There is a huge difference, which is essential in understanding the whole concept.
51.12 (51.25)- Marie you LAD.
Hate the assholes interupting w/ their goddamn electronics! Could u be more fuckin rude?
Language is a gift, isn't it?
Thank you, this has been added to a playlist...
SHE TAKES TO LONG TO SPECK ANNOYING
Are you, like, over five years old?
SPEED UP THE VIDEO LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.
I have an essay on forbidden mourning, one of my favorite poems :)
Chaitin puts them all to shame. He is so far ahead of this whole group. He is the only one who has shed his dogmas to open his mind.
embole!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He says "nearly infinite" at 6:36. Surely something is either infinite or it is not?
i want to join
@mebe84 OK.. 30 minutes and I find myself agreeing with theawakener7 so far, so THICK. more to follow when I've had a chance to watch the rest, but the evidence thus far is somewhat unpropitious..
So if it was all about IMMEDIACY and "writing on the lark", I suppose Shakespere is the boy to go with!
Awesome. I enjoyed this.
Thank you this has been added to our playlists here, and on facebook, :)
i must say the majority of commentators on youtube seem to be about 11 - 14 years old
this is superb, thank you very very much!
Are they in a janitor closet?
nem jo
In Hell, there is no air, every breath is a grasp, one never gets to feel that full satisfying fill of air rushing into ones lungs “take a deep breath, feel that beautiful feeling of the air rushing into your lungs” You don’t get to feel that in hell …how do I know there is no air in Hell ? Because God is the breath of life and there is no God in Hell !! God says he’ll mock them, they will grasp out it’s hot here God will reply it’s hot here !!
Thank you for this great talk. I loved math in school and college, and sure wish my teachers had had the time to portrait the people behind all the theory. School mathematics depicts only the final result of theory, not how people came up with it, made mistakes, how amazing the idea was at the time, etc. We take it all for granted and talks like this make it all come to life. Thanks!
Thanks for sorting out Dave Lehman's ancient Greek, JamBrop. Though Lehman's pronunciation of ancient Greek may not be as exemplary as yours, he does seem to know a thing or two about the lecture topic - WH Auden!
yawn. for thirty minutes...then bam.
yawn.
@Socksbike I envy you!! How come it wasn't the best of meetings?
One of my best philoctetes discussions. i listen to this over and over. it is rich and deep, well articulated by these experienced and well-versed poets. thanks a lot. my mind is like a child going to an amusement park.
For me, I find it difficult to find the true psychological message in this movie. Instead, I think it's all about Hitch's own relationship with women. He always had these divine platinum blond women in his films. And here we got his fantasy make-over of that woman, Madeleine (who never really existed), and he does it twice! The Midge charachter symbolizes more his wife perhaps? Hitch always treated the actors like props in a vision, and here Novak became that vision. The woman you'll never get.
Although I'm not a fan of poetry I enjoyed this discussion. Thank you very much for bringing such a wonderful panel. P.S.: Jonathan Culler is amazing. I've never seen him before, but only read his books. He's great.
imo a biography is akin to a dictionary definition conveying the meaning of another word. It's just an image or representation aka a simulacrum that may capture some essential qualities of the person but never entirely her self. More interesting is the effort of autobiography but it's also flawed inasmuch as the author/character is bound to verbalize her entire being and to squeeze it into a narrative form detached from reality by being steeped in the author's subjective viewpoint. Great talk <3