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  • @AmogNus-zs1tu
    @AmogNus-zs1tu23 сағат бұрын

    Yes, Classic Collection did some things wrong, it’s flawed.

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    Fake and shit.

  • @AmogNus-zs1tu
    @AmogNus-zs1tu23 сағат бұрын

    Why do you have so much beef with a proof of concept for Sonic The Hedgehog for the Nintendo DS

  • @Valientlink
    @Valientlink2 күн бұрын

    Classic collection is one of the biggest rip-offs in gaming history. Commercials made it seem like it functioned so well, but the sound was awful, the graphics could glitch out, and the lag was extremely bad unless you played on a DSi or 3DS. I had a fat original DS and basically was playing every game in slow motion. But I still tried to like it, I'd waited for handheld Sonic 3 since the 90s

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    No, Classic Collection Did Nothing Wrong. It's Perfect.

  • @agreedboarart3188
    @agreedboarart31883 күн бұрын

    Idk why but the wrong music playing is so funny to me.

  • @Danielcvianna12
    @Danielcvianna124 күн бұрын

    To beat the Megamix boss at 28:17 u need to spindash in egman ball

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    bruh

  • @Danielcvianna12
    @Danielcvianna124 күн бұрын

    The music make it look like a PS1 bootleg from Sonic 1

  • @BridgetGX
    @BridgetGX4 күн бұрын

    This might not be commercially viable anymore but it will always be a point of interest. Give this to the SAGE people and watch how fast they finish the development

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    No, a ds game would be perfect if done right, like the classic collection.

  • @0DRONZER
    @0DRONZER5 күн бұрын

    am i going nuts from listening to microtonal music or is the soundtrack just out of tune

  • @parapkid
    @parapkid4 күн бұрын

    yeah it is out of tune

  • @beefaroni4733
    @beefaroni47334 күн бұрын

    its not just you. the sound is off.

  • @TRMofYT
    @TRMofYT4 күн бұрын

    It's off by a few semitones. I took music in school so I would know.

  • @BigNate60_2.0
    @BigNate60_2.03 күн бұрын

    @@TRMofYTIt’s not off by THAT much. If our semitone knowledge is the same (which it more than likely is), then saying “a few semitones” would mean the new key is at least two or three half-steps above or below C, which is the normal key of the song. In just listening to it I can say it’s off by at most 1 semitone, which would make the new pitch more akin to B, but it’s not q u i t e there yet

  • @TRMofYT
    @TRMofYT3 күн бұрын

    @@BigNate60_2.0 Fair point. So it's technically in B but yet off-pitch at the same time.

  • @MrMegaManFan
    @MrMegaManFan5 күн бұрын

    The music being wrong in the first special stage and for invincibility is f’ing me up.

  • @sackerlacker5399
    @sackerlacker53995 күн бұрын

    Playable special stages?

  • @Jurtaani
    @Jurtaani6 күн бұрын

    i absolutely LOVE that idea of bottom screen being a map for the blue sphere stages.

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    that's not how it works

  • @Jurtaani
    @JurtaaniКүн бұрын

    @@Lou-yf1jo seems to work fine on the video there. also i know that it would most likely not have been there in the final game. all i said was that i would have loved if that map would have remained there in the final game (had we gotten one)

  • @mikecraftbro
    @mikecraftbro6 күн бұрын

    ?

  • @d.a.garden_mobile
    @d.a.garden_mobile7 күн бұрын

    People in the comments failing to understand what a Proof of Concept is. The whole point of this was to show that you could have these games running natively on the DS instead of via poor emulation.

  • @shilze1
    @shilze17 күн бұрын

    Stealth didn't know exactly what he would be competing with if he did end up successfully pitching but I doubt he would have been too broken up about what really came of SEGA's project at the time, his biggest fear was just them royally screwing up like with Sonic Genesis. The final product was a commendable effort in its own right. Not perfect and a little barebones but not without a solid effort and certainly not below Sonic Genesis, and it helps that JenesisDS was already respected DS Homebrew. There's certainly a lot that could have been done and expanded on with direct DS ports but by the time Classic Collection was out there wasn't too much demand for last-minute additions to the library to justify a larger undertaking.

  • @AymenZero
    @AymenZero6 күн бұрын

    Should've said that from the beginning. My brain couldn't process all that information

  • @PhirePhlame
    @PhirePhlame5 күн бұрын

    ​@@shilze1 I agree! They actually went through the effort of modifying each game to work within the parameters of JenesisDS specifically, rather than just releasing them as-is.

  • @LasagaMan
    @LasagaMan3 күн бұрын

    @@shilze1 So in essence, Stealth is the developer that sega "needs" but doesn't deserve?

  • @PsychoSk8r4bg
    @PsychoSk8r4bg2 күн бұрын

    @@LasagaMan Nailed it. Stealth has been a pillar of the Sonic Community and romhacking scene for a couple of decades now at the very least. What’s awesome is stealth, created headcannon, that worked with Christian whiteheads company (evening star?) to bring Sonic Origins. Ultimately, he got there!

  • @jorgitoislamico4224
    @jorgitoislamico42247 күн бұрын

    The substitute music choices were WILD 😭

  • @sonnythehedge
    @sonnythehedge7 күн бұрын

    next time use melon ds it's better

  • @bluedoge7749
    @bluedoge77492 күн бұрын

    What??

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    It's not better at all. it's not even real hardware

  • @NGO9000
    @NGO90008 күн бұрын

    Sonic classic collection is fine, it's just modified roms on a DS cart. Sad thing is they didn't even add blue spheres to the game.

  • @TheFallenStar64
    @TheFallenStar647 күн бұрын

    What are you talking about?

  • @NGO9000
    @NGO90007 күн бұрын

    @@TheFallenStar64 go to the Genesis vault in Vimm's lair and check the S section. You can see that there's roms of sonic games labeled "Sonic Classic Collection"

  • @gilitovenegas2339
    @gilitovenegas23395 күн бұрын

    ​@@X_Lord_of_the_Nightso then, how do you get the chaos emeralds in the DS version of S3&K?

  • @HyperSonic1999orJTH
    @HyperSonic1999orJTH4 күн бұрын

    ​@@gilitovenegas2339 You can get them just like normal, what he is actually talking about is the blue sphere game that you get from locking on any game that is not sonic 2 or 3 on the sonic and knuckles cartridge. You get a "NO WAY!?" screen then you press A, B, C together and can play a endless number of new blue sphere stages.

  • @X_Lord_of_the_Night
    @X_Lord_of_the_Night3 күн бұрын

    @@gilitovenegas2339 Hello, sorry for the late response. I got curious about the topic, there's not that much documentation about it, and the ones i saw said that blue spheres weren't in the game,so i went to try it myself. I tried Sonic 3, Knuckles in Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles, the conclusion is Blue spheres is in all of them with the exception of the Knuckles campaign in S&K which is something that was already like that in the original. The being said, I'm sorry for my previous comment saying it wasn't included, i took as base some KZread videos that said that blue spheres aren't included, I'll be excluding my previous comment.

  • @MrOuchMouse
    @MrOuchMouse8 күн бұрын

    This is not the classic collection

  • @poopgoopboop123abc
    @poopgoopboop123abc3 күн бұрын

    Nobody said it was the classic collection

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    @@poopgoopboop123abc well it's meant to be. but this guy is showing a shitty attempt of the game instead.

  • @riley2476
    @riley24768 күн бұрын

    say what you want, but a map for blue spheres levels wouldve been a really good use of the ds touch screen. especially in stages with the yellow spheres

  • @LordScout
    @LordScout9 күн бұрын

    "ds collection nobody even remembers" ok wow think of the little zoomers who got this game when they were 8 and got to play around with those games on the go. besides nostalgia i think the fact that it had knuckles in sonic 2 and sonic 3 & knuckles makes it a pretty solid collection. good video though!

  • @netmeister7941
    @netmeister79419 күн бұрын

    Did your comma and shift key fall off?'

  • @StudioMetroProductions
    @StudioMetroProductions9 күн бұрын

    The only I remember is that it uses music from sonic jam

  • @P0Ta33t0
    @P0Ta33t09 күн бұрын

    Yeah I have it still.

  • @gameguider321GO
    @gameguider321GO9 күн бұрын

    I would know. Because I was one of those zoomers that got classic collection when I was 8 or 9.

  • @LordScout
    @LordScout9 күн бұрын

    @netmeister7941 if you can read what I say idgaf, it's a youtube comment not a job application

  • @Adamwinters
    @Adamwinters9 күн бұрын

    Blue Sphere was ROUGH on DS.

  • @Gaizure
    @Gaizure5 күн бұрын

    It was pretty horrible, it was the one thing that really made me never want to play that port despite it being one of the better ones overall. Sonic Jam is also disappointingly kinda bad.

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    No, Classic Collection Did Nothing Wrong. It's Perfect.

  • @LolManI-75
    @LolManI-759 күн бұрын

    11:13 Actually, the Green & Pink Spheres debuted in Sonic Mania with Blue Spheres Mania Mode

  • @I-like-Sonic-91
    @I-like-Sonic-919 күн бұрын

    This was made around 2011-2012 tho (Mania released in 2017) Therefore, this was the first appearance of the Green and Pink spheres.

  • @fiafiaaaa
    @fiafiaaaa9 күн бұрын

    @@I-like-Sonic-91 The captions say they *officially* debuted in Sonic Origins. They are correcting that as they *officially* debuted in Mania's Blue Spheres Mania mode.

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    no, they never did because mania is a fangame

  • @fiafiaaaa
    @fiafiaaaaКүн бұрын

    @@Lou-yf1joa game made by fans released by sega, yes. edit: nvm i just saw you have fucking 25 comments on this video defending classic collection like your life depends on it and calling this shit. good luck with that bro lmao

  • @Zawmbbeh
    @Zawmbbeh9 күн бұрын

    why are some of the music notes kindof flat? is it a sample rate thing?

  • @trash_lol
    @trash_lol9 күн бұрын

    i think some of the songs are played some microtones down, i think sample rate sounds like a feasible explanation

  • @Zawmbbeh
    @Zawmbbeh9 күн бұрын

    @@trash_lol i know it was like that with the botched port for Goin Quackers (N64)

  • @SplatMaster420
    @SplatMaster4209 күн бұрын

    Because it’s ds

  • @drgabi18
    @drgabi189 күн бұрын

    7:33 wow, rude

  • @CrashTise
    @CrashTise10 күн бұрын

    I had Classic Collection on DS as a kid and didn't notice anything wrong with it. I'd then install the game on my hacked 2DS many years later and realise how bad it is with its low quality audio, compressed visuals and slow performance.

  • @ShrimpyFries
    @ShrimpyFries10 күн бұрын

    and for some reason in sonic 3 you couldnt get tails to fly at all(at least for me)

  • @GoldenGrenadier
    @GoldenGrenadier9 күн бұрын

    I just couldn't get past knuckles not having his top row of pixels.

  • @cfothough
    @cfothough9 күн бұрын

    Even as a little kid I noticed how laggy the game was and how some of the sounds were wrong

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    No, Classic Collection Did Nothing Wrong. It's Perfect.

  • @Valientlink
    @Valientlink2 сағат бұрын

    that's odd. I had a fat ds and the lag was INSANE. years later when i played on 3ds in 2011, there was zero lag. still, it sounded like shit. now i just use the picodrive emulator, sound isn't perfect but it's more than good enough

  • @Ihartwalrusguy
    @Ihartwalrusguy10 күн бұрын

    You think if Sega approved of this pitch, Sonic Megamix would become canon?

  • @mateoleon1301
    @mateoleon13017 күн бұрын

    The fan game within itself or just the title? Edit: I just saw the pitch demo for Sonic mega mix for the ds, and I can say maybe.

  • @nutbuster87
    @nutbuster875 күн бұрын

    no dumbass, its a proof of concept, sega would not have added megamix into the final product had it been approved

  • @kolkagaming1234
    @kolkagaming123410 күн бұрын

    What the GBA of sonic 1 should’ve been.

  • @emmyheart2082
    @emmyheart20828 күн бұрын

    Funny you mention that, Stealth made a port of Sonic 1 for the GBA to contest the Sega official one. It used a disassembly of the original game ported over to C, featured all of GHZ, and I think a little bit of Labyrinth zone? Also significantly better music and visuals

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    No, Classic Collection Did Nothing Wrong. It's Perfect.

  • @emmyheart2082
    @emmyheart2082Күн бұрын

    @@Lou-yf1jo This comment wasn't about the Classic Collection? This is in reference to the "Sonic the Hedgehog Genesis" game for the GBA, which was a "port" of the original title that suffered from very clunky physics, iffy music and slowdown.

  • @Saetta06
    @Saetta0610 күн бұрын

    I know this wouldn't have happened even if the project was green lit but I would've loved if this used both screens like sonic rush, would've made the games feel more immersive

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    N o

  • @alexboltSEGAGENESIS173
    @alexboltSEGAGENESIS17310 күн бұрын

    sonic games on nintendo FULL SHIT

  • @Karnage233
    @Karnage23310 күн бұрын

    what are you blabbering about

  • @Randi_MyMan
    @Randi_MyMan10 күн бұрын

    he's just another full sega fan, no nintendo stuff for him basically, wants the 1991 sega vs nintendo thing to happen again.

  • @Trimint123
    @Trimint1239 күн бұрын

    My guy, have you heard of Sonic Rush?

  • @Karnage233
    @Karnage2339 күн бұрын

    @@Trimint123 or the *entire* Advance series

  • @featheredhand
    @featheredhand8 күн бұрын

    @Karnage233 or Rush Adventure, the Story book series games, sonic colors' initial release, sonic Battle, sonic pinball party etc... 😂

  • @Ekstromer64
    @Ekstromer6410 күн бұрын

    why are you using desmume rather than melonds? is your computer not 64 bit

  • @shilze1
    @shilze110 күн бұрын

    Because built in raw video recording and I don't think it works on Melon

  • @YourUncleBenis
    @YourUncleBenis4 күн бұрын

    Desmume has built-in recording software that gets rid of any lag you may experience while playing. Like, you could have a ton of slowdown, but the recorded product won't have it.

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    fuck melon ds, desmume is better

  • @caramelflann
    @caramelflann10 күн бұрын

    Where tf did sonic megamix come from

  • @GenghisConnThr333
    @GenghisConnThr33310 күн бұрын

    ROM hack of Sonic 1 that was really popular back in it's day, also Stealth worked on it.

  • @betterwinds
    @betterwinds10 күн бұрын

    I really like the blue spheres implementation using the second screen

  • @MizunoKetsuban
    @MizunoKetsuban10 күн бұрын

    That's just for debugging purposes. It wouldn't have been there in the finished product.

  • @ssg-eggunner
    @ssg-eggunner10 күн бұрын

    Im completely aware it wouldnt be there in a final product but it would definitely make blue spheres less of a hassle

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    N

  • @PhantomBoi-ru9ci
    @PhantomBoi-ru9ci10 күн бұрын

    of course this is better THIS WAS RECONSTRUCTED INSTEAD OF EMULATED‼️

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    No, Classic Collection IS Better.

  • @Penguimus
    @Penguimus10 күн бұрын

    Sonic Classic Collection: aM i A jOkE tO yOu- This feels like it wasn’t understood properly.

  • @purpleken279
    @purpleken27910 күн бұрын

    sonic classic collection used a genesis emulator developed prior to its release in order to "port" the games to ds, this tech demo is more of a remake of the sonic engine natively on ds hardware. Stealth wanted to stop sega from being lazy and take this concept to make the collection at least a bit more playable without the resolution looking like it was shredded and stuck together again

  • @Karnage233
    @Karnage23310 күн бұрын

    classic collection sucks

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    Classic Collection Is Perfect.

  • @opa-rappa
    @opa-rappa10 күн бұрын

    Who tf disliked the video

  • @Zomboy4313
    @Zomboy431310 күн бұрын

    How tf can you see that

  • @opa-rappa
    @opa-rappa10 күн бұрын

    @@Zomboy4313 Illegal ways

  • @Pack64
    @Pack6410 күн бұрын

    8 hours ago

  • @Nintendo_Homebrew
    @Nintendo_Homebrew8 күн бұрын

    Dr. Eggman and his alt accounts

  • @MaxusYT592
    @MaxusYT5926 күн бұрын

    ​@@Nintendo_Homebrewand his badniks

  • @GoldKnightProduction
    @GoldKnightProduction10 күн бұрын

    To this day it bugs me that the sprite layers are in the wrong order in Classic Collection. In S3&K some select sprites render on top of the characters. Most noticeably the levers that Knuckles uses in Mushroom Hill and the holes left by those worm badniks in Lava Reef.

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    No, Classic Collection Did Nothing Wrong. It's Perfect.

  • @thepuzzlemaster64
    @thepuzzlemaster6410 күн бұрын

    Man, SEGA must have been in a very weird predicament with the DS Classic Collection. On one hand you have you have a developer who made an incredible homebrew Genesis emulator on the DS, and on the other you have someone who's willing to recreate every Sonic game from scratch. Honestly, neither decision was bad. It's just the Jenesisds dev got there first.

  • @shilze1
    @shilze110 күн бұрын

    It's possible it just never came through to anyone who could've made a note of it, but the DS was also on about its last year and it was last minute enough that they probably wouldn't have wanted to devote much more time to it, especially with the Megamix part of the pitch.

  • @inktendo
    @inktendo10 күн бұрын

    @@shilze1also it's way easier to slap some roms into an emulator than port entire games to a console

  • @the1whoplayz
    @the1whoplayz10 күн бұрын

    @@inktendo It's also cheaper, which is the most likely reason why SEGA went the emulation route

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    No, Classic Collection Did Nothing Wrong. It's Perfect.

  • @inktendo
    @inktendoКүн бұрын

    @@Lou-yf1jo Classic Collection IS GREAT! ♥

  • @shalpp
    @shalpp10 күн бұрын

    Whats the deal with the music? Sounds almost like it's sequenced straight from the ds hardware

  • @frannielmartinez
    @frannielmartinez10 күн бұрын

    It is

  • @undyingstar
    @undyingstar10 күн бұрын

    Because it is, its being ran in midi

  • @shalpp
    @shalpp10 күн бұрын

    Makes me wonder a few things - How would the sound effects sound if they were synthesized in hardware sort of like how the saturn did it in sonic jam But also sonic jam would've fared with a sequenced soundtrack, either sampling bits of the fm patches or trying to match the original patches with its own built in fm synth

  • @ssg-eggunner
    @ssg-eggunner10 күн бұрын

    ​@@undyingstarnot midi Midi refers to a system built in music keyboards to communicate with PCs General Midi is separate from DS, even if creating a midi2ds driver could be possible

  • @ssg-eggunner
    @ssg-eggunner10 күн бұрын

    ​@@shalpp this definitely uses the full sampled versions from saturn games or atleast the same methods, which is why it sounds crusty compared to the music

  • @getbluespheres3k
    @getbluespheres3k11 күн бұрын

    tis still better than GBA

  • @Karnage233
    @Karnage23310 күн бұрын

    Wait until you see stealths sonic 1 GBA tech demo

  • @Lou-yf1jo
    @Lou-yf1joКүн бұрын

    No, Classic Collection Did Nothing Wrong. It's Perfect.

  • @getbluespheres3k
    @getbluespheres3kКүн бұрын

    @@Lou-yf1jo i mean its still better than the GBA version of sonic 1

  • @Karnage233
    @Karnage233Күн бұрын

    @@Lou-yf1jo Classic collection is far from perfect, but it’s definitely acceptable for the hardware and the way it was developed

  • @vittosphonecollection4134
    @vittosphonecollection413412 күн бұрын

    Awww I thought it was gonna be a recreation of that Tech Demo where you swipe one the screen to run. Still, good job!

  • @shilze1
    @shilze111 күн бұрын

    It's not something I made. This video is intended to showcase a lesser-known project by Stealth that was based on his well-known Sonic GBA port of Sonic 1 because there really isn't any footage of it anywhere else on KZread.

  • @vittosphonecollection4134
    @vittosphonecollection413411 күн бұрын

    @@shilze1 Oh ok lol, at least you made the footage aviable tho

  • @VictorSilva-lj4wy
    @VictorSilva-lj4wy12 күн бұрын

    "If that description sounds familiar, you might be a Blue Spheres fan! These officially debited in Sonic Origins!" Sonic Mania: -_-

  • @shilze1
    @shilze110 күн бұрын

    I assumed it only made it in officially through Blue Spheres Plus, but I am also not a Blue Spheres (or Mania) fan myself and what I do know about that edition comes from lets plays.

  • @ventriloquistmagician4735
    @ventriloquistmagician47358 күн бұрын

    ​@@shilze1blue spheres mania no good

  • @user-ck1ty9rn7y
    @user-ck1ty9rn7y3 ай бұрын

    Cringe🤮

  • @helenjohns8829
    @helenjohns88296 ай бұрын

    promo sm

  • @JiggerJoe69
    @JiggerJoe696 ай бұрын

    he is in fact, The Greatest All American Reject

  • @tylern6420
    @tylern64207 ай бұрын

    is this unbaking

  • @myleswelnetz6700
    @myleswelnetz6700 Жыл бұрын

    Remove the monologue.

  • @ThatRetroGuy2005
    @ThatRetroGuy2005 Жыл бұрын

    Looks better than sonic classic collection 😂

  • @shalpp
    @shalpp10 күн бұрын

    Save for maybe different screen positioning it looks almost exactly the same as the ds collection

  • @ThatRetroGuy2005
    @ThatRetroGuy200510 күн бұрын

    ​@@shalpp I only said that since the frame rate is much nicer

  • @davidgameranimations
    @davidgameranimations10 күн бұрын

    ​@@ThatRetroGuy2005classic collection was made for DSi in mind, that is more powerful, It says un the back on the box, if you tested on an 3ds or normal DS you didn't play It correctly 💥

  • @VampireA1056
    @VampireA105610 күн бұрын

    What's wrong with Sonic Classic Collection??

  • @davidgameranimations
    @davidgameranimations10 күн бұрын

    @@VampireA1056 idk

  • @treint6751
    @treint6751 Жыл бұрын

    4:20

  • @tornadosirenroubik4124
    @tornadosirenroubik4124 Жыл бұрын

    wow I have this game I wanted to move around super sonic but it already took me to the last final battle

  • @roostergamerbubsy3d
    @roostergamerbubsy3d Жыл бұрын

    Overworld Super Sonic?????? WHAT????

  • @shilze1
    @shilze1 Жыл бұрын

    They probably thought they were gonna show Super Sonic on the bottom screen leading up to his fight and have a bit of Super Sonic running towards Super IX, but they don't have anything like that.