Hello why do you move right to left? is that standard practice. I was asked to do a riser diagram and I had no clue where to start.
@louisPE3 күн бұрын
If I understand your question you are talking about the water service entry? if so you can start it on the left or right of the riser diagram. The important thing is the order of the fixture connections should match plans.
@guanglefan926627 күн бұрын
I experienced the similar issue, in my case, the road divider is a 6 inch high and in white color, FSD seems think it is just a white solid line, and run straight into it.
@DerekDavis21323 күн бұрын
Maybe Tesla will reimburse you, because you are testing the FSD software?
@patrickknobloch666427 күн бұрын
WOW!
@eastmanwebb547728 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing this valuable information. I noticed that you weren’t reporting your findings to Tesla after the disengagements by pressing the right button on the steering wheel and saying what the car did wrong. It seems that the issues may get resolved quicker if this feature is utilized more often. In any event, I enjoyed this video and your descriptions of the issues.
@DanFrederiksen29 күн бұрын
Good tests at the end, you can probably skip the highway parts because it's not v12 anyway and typically uneventful.
@user-rr9fy4ie8w29 күн бұрын
여러번 개입이 있었나요?
@user-rr9fy4ie8w29 күн бұрын
등들을 신호등으로 착각 안하나요? 이젠? 그리고 신호등 빨간신호등 점멸등 어떻게 됐나요?
@paulson368029 күн бұрын
Very cool future is here I will buy a tesla tomorrow after watching this.
@onlythebest3311Ай бұрын
That ending was scary!
@jonathanwiliams4993Ай бұрын
You're not showing the display so how do we know that you're in FSD?
@DerekDavis213Ай бұрын
FSD has problems in NYC at night: 2:45 FSD has missed an easy right turn (for a human) 13:35 FSD stalled on right turn, Human must intervene 14:50 FSD totally fails at a blocked road. Human *must* intervene FSD cannot anticipate how many other cars are around it, and then take action *earlier* . FSD cannot go in reverse, that is a big problem.
@DerekDavis213Ай бұрын
14:20 FSD was about to drive off a 7-inch high curb. Human must intervene. FSD cannot recognize a very steep curb. Louis says that is a very dangerous situation.
@homosapien6031Ай бұрын
Even getting as far as it did is really impressive. I can’t even drive well in a lot of NYC. Times Square is another level with the amount of pedestrians there.
@helloc2606Ай бұрын
make a document where fsd could not handle well .and list them to docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wlN0hqmFRp_ZRZNWrqfZMP--OV4u083hmXI_0mGUUJg/edit?usp=sharing
@KaipisoАй бұрын
I cannot see the high curb on the video either. So you would probably need stereo vision for that. Cameras could provide stereo images, but this might be an edge case. Not sure how you see it. Do you really see it or just know it is there? Oh, and last column situation seemed fine on the video. Watching it calmly from my seat, I say it would make it!. :)
@louisPEАй бұрын
I showed a picture of the curb in a previous video below, somewhere in the beginning portion of the video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6WXvKOtj5eoqLw.html. I am trying new versions at this curb to see when this will be picked up by the FSD. I feel this is similar to pot holes and other drops on the road that the FSD is not picking up yet.
@KaipisoАй бұрын
@@louisPE I understand that, and it could be seen from another angle clearly. But from this angle I see what we see on camera. It does not look like a curb. It just looks like a different coloring of the plain road. So I don't know how would any version solve it if cameras don't see it at all. Yes, it could be similar to potholes. But at least we usually recognize potholes, and see that they differ from just asphalt patches. But I don't see this as a curb... is just bad, needs some paint maybe... no idea.
@DerekDavis21323 күн бұрын
Human eyes *are* stereo vision. Far superior to the cheap Tesla Vision cameras.
@chrischen4866Ай бұрын
let me test it out in Chinatown too.
@helloc2606Ай бұрын
more video every day
@helloc2606Ай бұрын
more video 99$\month
@anonymgoogle-bruger9741Ай бұрын
Do you have it on chill, average or assertive? Your complaints so far in the video (missing lane changes, too slow at going when it's clear etc.) could maybe be fixed by switching to average or assertive. Please always mention that in the start of the video and don't cut the boring parts, just speed them up. Thanks !
@louisPEАй бұрын
I only set on assertive.
@Jayzee31519Ай бұрын
Thank you for this, queens has some of the weirdest and complicated intersections and I’m glad to see it put through its paces here and not on car friendly cities like SF and LA
@louisPEАй бұрын
Also we have lot of pot holes on the road due to cold weather expanding any water in the asphalt roads. I have gotten flat tires from going over these at high speed. Tesla needs to train the AI system to avoid pot holes and other drops in the road. I am testing new upgrades to see when this will happen.
@shdmd2118Ай бұрын
Tesla amazing tech…I am blown away
@shdmd2118Ай бұрын
People are doing at FSD all wrong. Most people are assuming they are better drivers than FSD , the truth is, most are not. Listen to a lot of the critique, it’s all about why isn’t FSD speeding or it needs to follow car in front closer etc. It’s already better than 99 percent drivers
@DerekDavis213Ай бұрын
Speak for yourself. In America people have many years of driving experience. The simple minded beta FSD software is nothing like a human driver.
@shdmd2118Ай бұрын
@@DerekDavis213 you are ignorant lol. Go outside and look at traffic for 15 min. Texting teen where’s, seniors who cannot see, people driving with no license…. I bet you one of those who said blackberry was better than iPhone lol Where is your abacus?
@shdmd2118Ай бұрын
@@DerekDavis213 The future is here. I have tested the software since 2019, this version is robo taxi ready after my near 2500 miles of testing last 4 weeks . You get with it or just keep sticking to your blackberry or abacus and get left behind, kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXeO0qaPZsu0oZM.htmlsi=sWNw66RcbzCOTfmk
@DerekDavis213Ай бұрын
@@shdmd2118 After almost *Four* *long* *years* , FSD is still a simple minded barely Level 2 assistant. It makes obvious rookie mistakes, all the time. 100 percent human supervision is *required* . blackberry vs iphone? Both primitive electronics. But FSD vs Human Brain? Like a bicycle vs a BMW.
@shdmd2118Ай бұрын
@@DerekDavis213 you stay where you are lol More you talk more I think FSD likely drives better than you What phone do you use?
@sillystuff6247Ай бұрын
dude, excellent minimal commentary drive. you let fsd do the talking. in future videos, please tell us how new versions are better than, same as, or worse than the previous version. thank you
@user-cc3sl9vq2hАй бұрын
fantastic! it’s tough situation to fsd，and it did great
@Jayzee31519Ай бұрын
Night time, rainy, and in Times Square. Possibly the most challenging scenario, pleasantly surprised tbh
@user-ln2sq8hg6iАй бұрын
I noticed that there are several traces of editing in the video. Could it be that FSD encountered difficulties during driving and could not continue driving, and then did you take over? And then you edited out this part of the takeover?
@BongoWongoOGАй бұрын
What if thats true? Its called supervised FSD, its not a fully autonomous car. Brand new created KZread channel you've created there just to spread more Tesla FUD. Who's funding you? Dan O'Clown?
@user-ln2sq8hg6iАй бұрын
@@BongoWongoOGWhat do you want to express? I just want to know the specific number of times the vlogger's FSD took over in this video, because I found that the video was not shot to the end, and some clips did not include the takeover. I want to know what the specific performance of FSD is. What's wrong with this? Why are you expressing ill will toward me, brother?
@user-ln2sq8hg6iАй бұрын
@@BongoWongoOGWho doesn’t know that the current FSD is only a level 2 assisted driving system? Does the driver need to be supervised at all times? But the question is, the audience wants to know what kind of road conditions FSD is not capable of. Is this wrong? You're not a vlogger, so what's the point of nagging me here? Whose money did you receive? Is Musk your father?
@louisPEАй бұрын
The reason I edited the clip was because the other times I was just sitting in traffic or it wasn't doing anything interesting. I mainly only added the clips where I had to disengage the FSD or I thought there was some improvements that can be made. All other times it worked without any issues.
@DerekDavis213Ай бұрын
@@user-ln2sq8hg6i _Who doesn’t know that the current FSD is only a level 2 assisted driving system_ A lot of people don't know. They are saying nonsensical things like: FSD is solved FSD is better than a human Full Autonomy in a few months!
@isakalalawmpuia4170Ай бұрын
A mezing nice towns
@rickhearnАй бұрын
gotta have balls to test it out in nyc
@strengthPlanАй бұрын
pretty good
@johnpublicprofile6261Ай бұрын
MOST PEOPLE DON'T... ...make turns a second or two after the red. I can"t speak for NY drivers but most London (UK) don't. Not even Swansea, a smaller but more vicious UK city for driving. It is not just a case of Tesla following the law, driving through red traffic lights is *moronic* and choosing to put others at risk. Sorry, but needs saying.
@louisPEАй бұрын
I hear you, but when you deal with the traffic here it can turn a patient person into doing things like that only if the road is clear for it of course. But yes tesla should always program FSD to follow the law.
@onlythebest3311Ай бұрын
This is the type of fsd video we want to see, not the same bs fsd driving on a cookie cutter suburban road with no one around. Keep making those videos in nyc, but why the cliff hanger, did fsd stop?
@louisPEАй бұрын
It stopped for like a second or 2 then started moving. It appears to do this when getting very close to people on these versions. I think they are playing it safe in the start and may get better on future versions.
@sym660817Ай бұрын
Please do more test in NYC
@tesliusfsdАй бұрын
Impressive!
@catbert7Ай бұрын
Wow, it's more comfy around those bikes than I would be! But I saw that bus lane 😏
@catbert7Ай бұрын
Yikes
@catbert7Ай бұрын
Uh, it's a more than a little confusing EVERYWHERE in this clip 😵💫
@catbert7Ай бұрын
Dude WTF is going on over there?? NYC is a certified madhouse! =0
@maxpayne7419Ай бұрын
It malfunctioned at the end. It should not have stopped for a pedestrian J walking. And then it stalled and I assume the driver had to intervene. It’s cool technology. But not worth $200/mo. And it’s far from ready for robo taxi.
@TokyoNightGirl-fk4cnАй бұрын
💞Wow💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💛
@vinod8941Ай бұрын
It's like chatgpt 3, surprises everyone, soon after we got gpt 4 which is a much better model, the same thing will happen with fsd, it will progress aggressively, fsd 12.4 will be much better than 12.3.3. that's why elon is confident on model 2 fully autonomous. We are lucky to live in a generation having these kinds of innovations.
@DerekDavis213Ай бұрын
A high school kid could have drove this route, easily. FSD still has a long ways to go.
@catbert7Ай бұрын
A high school kid could have made a better comment. You still have a long ways to go.
@DerekDavis213Ай бұрын
@@catbert7 There are more than 50 videos here on KZread that show *exactly* how 12.3.3 behaves in the real world. 12.3.3 has problems on the road that any *high* *school* *kid* could handle. FSD remains a simple minded 'assistant'. Level 2. Nothing more.
@rickhearnАй бұрын
not the average one. it is confusing under the bridge.
@DerekDavis213Ай бұрын
@@rickhearn A human with years of experience driving, and with advanced brain and eyes can drive under the bridge without a problem. Child's play, *for* *a* *human* .
@rickhearnАй бұрын
@@DerekDavis213 if that is true, then there shouldn't be any paint or damage to those metal columns there
@DerekDavis213Ай бұрын
Still multiple disengagements needed. Wow. Maybe v12.4 will offer some real improvements?
@KC-uw6phАй бұрын
Robotaxis should come in a year or 2 from the looks of this progress. Amazing tech.
@BobbieGWhizАй бұрын
I am new to FSD with the free trial. Perhaps previous users of version 11 see how much it’s improved, but I see that it’s not there yet. Until I feel comfortable closing my eyes while the car drives, I’m not ready to buy it. While I’m happy to trial it, I think Tesla should’ve waited for more refined version before releasing it generally.
@gummixx6885Ай бұрын
its about getting the miles needed for keeping the added computational power busy ... its there in half a year or less
@catbert7Ай бұрын
If you wait until it's legally FSD you will never buy it because it will not be for sale. A robotaxi is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. So, it's either buy now, on the hopes it will soon be there and you can resell the car for way more, or wait to experience it when you summon one through the app (and hopefully get rich off Tesla stock instead ;p). As for the trial, that is more because they need all the video data they can get in order to train it faster. Anyone buying FSD as a result is icing on the cake.
@DerekDavis213Ай бұрын
@@catbert7 A robotaxi like Waymo is full of advanced sensors, and costs much more than a Tesla that you or me could afford.
@taylorlee5103Ай бұрын
I am impressed how quiet the cabin of the Tesla is. I am familiar with the areas you drove on, all loud and noisy.
@catbert7Ай бұрын
The refreshed Model 3, in particular, has incredible sound damping and an incredible audio system.
@key337Ай бұрын
stay safe around the column bro
@key337Ай бұрын
thank you for doing this
@s95033Ай бұрын
Nice work with this test. At the end of the video when it was stopped at the green light, did you have to start it or did it go on its own?
@LL-wn8ywАй бұрын
Had to hit the accelerator to push fsd to move. I have no idea what fsd was thinking, maybe it thought the road ahead was not a driveable road since so narrow?
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it got scared in the end?
Hello why do you move right to left? is that standard practice. I was asked to do a riser diagram and I had no clue where to start.
If I understand your question you are talking about the water service entry? if so you can start it on the left or right of the riser diagram. The important thing is the order of the fixture connections should match plans.
I experienced the similar issue, in my case, the road divider is a 6 inch high and in white color, FSD seems think it is just a white solid line, and run straight into it.
Maybe Tesla will reimburse you, because you are testing the FSD software?
WOW!
Thank you for sharing this valuable information. I noticed that you weren’t reporting your findings to Tesla after the disengagements by pressing the right button on the steering wheel and saying what the car did wrong. It seems that the issues may get resolved quicker if this feature is utilized more often. In any event, I enjoyed this video and your descriptions of the issues.
Good tests at the end, you can probably skip the highway parts because it's not v12 anyway and typically uneventful.
여러번 개입이 있었나요?
등들을 신호등으로 착각 안하나요? 이젠? 그리고 신호등 빨간신호등 점멸등 어떻게 됐나요?
Very cool future is here I will buy a tesla tomorrow after watching this.
That ending was scary!
You're not showing the display so how do we know that you're in FSD?
FSD has problems in NYC at night: 2:45 FSD has missed an easy right turn (for a human) 13:35 FSD stalled on right turn, Human must intervene 14:50 FSD totally fails at a blocked road. Human *must* intervene FSD cannot anticipate how many other cars are around it, and then take action *earlier* . FSD cannot go in reverse, that is a big problem.
14:20 FSD was about to drive off a 7-inch high curb. Human must intervene. FSD cannot recognize a very steep curb. Louis says that is a very dangerous situation.
Even getting as far as it did is really impressive. I can’t even drive well in a lot of NYC. Times Square is another level with the amount of pedestrians there.
make a document where fsd could not handle well .and list them to docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wlN0hqmFRp_ZRZNWrqfZMP--OV4u083hmXI_0mGUUJg/edit?usp=sharing
I cannot see the high curb on the video either. So you would probably need stereo vision for that. Cameras could provide stereo images, but this might be an edge case. Not sure how you see it. Do you really see it or just know it is there? Oh, and last column situation seemed fine on the video. Watching it calmly from my seat, I say it would make it!. :)
I showed a picture of the curb in a previous video below, somewhere in the beginning portion of the video. kzread.info/dash/bejne/p6WXvKOtj5eoqLw.html. I am trying new versions at this curb to see when this will be picked up by the FSD. I feel this is similar to pot holes and other drops on the road that the FSD is not picking up yet.
@@louisPE I understand that, and it could be seen from another angle clearly. But from this angle I see what we see on camera. It does not look like a curb. It just looks like a different coloring of the plain road. So I don't know how would any version solve it if cameras don't see it at all. Yes, it could be similar to potholes. But at least we usually recognize potholes, and see that they differ from just asphalt patches. But I don't see this as a curb... is just bad, needs some paint maybe... no idea.
Human eyes *are* stereo vision. Far superior to the cheap Tesla Vision cameras.
let me test it out in Chinatown too.
more video every day
more video 99$\month
Do you have it on chill, average or assertive? Your complaints so far in the video (missing lane changes, too slow at going when it's clear etc.) could maybe be fixed by switching to average or assertive. Please always mention that in the start of the video and don't cut the boring parts, just speed them up. Thanks !
I only set on assertive.
Thank you for this, queens has some of the weirdest and complicated intersections and I’m glad to see it put through its paces here and not on car friendly cities like SF and LA
Also we have lot of pot holes on the road due to cold weather expanding any water in the asphalt roads. I have gotten flat tires from going over these at high speed. Tesla needs to train the AI system to avoid pot holes and other drops in the road. I am testing new upgrades to see when this will happen.
Tesla amazing tech…I am blown away
People are doing at FSD all wrong. Most people are assuming they are better drivers than FSD , the truth is, most are not. Listen to a lot of the critique, it’s all about why isn’t FSD speeding or it needs to follow car in front closer etc. It’s already better than 99 percent drivers
Speak for yourself. In America people have many years of driving experience. The simple minded beta FSD software is nothing like a human driver.
@@DerekDavis213 you are ignorant lol. Go outside and look at traffic for 15 min. Texting teen where’s, seniors who cannot see, people driving with no license…. I bet you one of those who said blackberry was better than iPhone lol Where is your abacus?
@@DerekDavis213 The future is here. I have tested the software since 2019, this version is robo taxi ready after my near 2500 miles of testing last 4 weeks . You get with it or just keep sticking to your blackberry or abacus and get left behind, kzread.info/dash/bejne/mXeO0qaPZsu0oZM.htmlsi=sWNw66RcbzCOTfmk
@@shdmd2118 After almost *Four* *long* *years* , FSD is still a simple minded barely Level 2 assistant. It makes obvious rookie mistakes, all the time. 100 percent human supervision is *required* . blackberry vs iphone? Both primitive electronics. But FSD vs Human Brain? Like a bicycle vs a BMW.
@@DerekDavis213 you stay where you are lol More you talk more I think FSD likely drives better than you What phone do you use?
dude, excellent minimal commentary drive. you let fsd do the talking. in future videos, please tell us how new versions are better than, same as, or worse than the previous version. thank you
fantastic! it’s tough situation to fsd，and it did great
Night time, rainy, and in Times Square. Possibly the most challenging scenario, pleasantly surprised tbh
I noticed that there are several traces of editing in the video. Could it be that FSD encountered difficulties during driving and could not continue driving, and then did you take over? And then you edited out this part of the takeover?
What if thats true? Its called supervised FSD, its not a fully autonomous car. Brand new created KZread channel you've created there just to spread more Tesla FUD. Who's funding you? Dan O'Clown?
@@BongoWongoOGWhat do you want to express? I just want to know the specific number of times the vlogger's FSD took over in this video, because I found that the video was not shot to the end, and some clips did not include the takeover. I want to know what the specific performance of FSD is. What's wrong with this? Why are you expressing ill will toward me, brother?
@@BongoWongoOGWho doesn’t know that the current FSD is only a level 2 assisted driving system? Does the driver need to be supervised at all times? But the question is, the audience wants to know what kind of road conditions FSD is not capable of. Is this wrong? You're not a vlogger, so what's the point of nagging me here? Whose money did you receive? Is Musk your father?
The reason I edited the clip was because the other times I was just sitting in traffic or it wasn't doing anything interesting. I mainly only added the clips where I had to disengage the FSD or I thought there was some improvements that can be made. All other times it worked without any issues.
@@user-ln2sq8hg6i _Who doesn’t know that the current FSD is only a level 2 assisted driving system_ A lot of people don't know. They are saying nonsensical things like: FSD is solved FSD is better than a human Full Autonomy in a few months!
A mezing nice towns
gotta have balls to test it out in nyc
pretty good
MOST PEOPLE DON'T... ...make turns a second or two after the red. I can"t speak for NY drivers but most London (UK) don't. Not even Swansea, a smaller but more vicious UK city for driving. It is not just a case of Tesla following the law, driving through red traffic lights is *moronic* and choosing to put others at risk. Sorry, but needs saying.
I hear you, but when you deal with the traffic here it can turn a patient person into doing things like that only if the road is clear for it of course. But yes tesla should always program FSD to follow the law.
This is the type of fsd video we want to see, not the same bs fsd driving on a cookie cutter suburban road with no one around. Keep making those videos in nyc, but why the cliff hanger, did fsd stop?
It stopped for like a second or 2 then started moving. It appears to do this when getting very close to people on these versions. I think they are playing it safe in the start and may get better on future versions.
Please do more test in NYC
Impressive!
Wow, it's more comfy around those bikes than I would be! But I saw that bus lane 😏
Yikes
Uh, it's a more than a little confusing EVERYWHERE in this clip 😵💫
Dude WTF is going on over there?? NYC is a certified madhouse! =0
It malfunctioned at the end. It should not have stopped for a pedestrian J walking. And then it stalled and I assume the driver had to intervene. It’s cool technology. But not worth $200/mo. And it’s far from ready for robo taxi.
💞Wow💗💗💗💗💗💗💗💛
It's like chatgpt 3, surprises everyone, soon after we got gpt 4 which is a much better model, the same thing will happen with fsd, it will progress aggressively, fsd 12.4 will be much better than 12.3.3. that's why elon is confident on model 2 fully autonomous. We are lucky to live in a generation having these kinds of innovations.
A high school kid could have drove this route, easily. FSD still has a long ways to go.
A high school kid could have made a better comment. You still have a long ways to go.
@@catbert7 There are more than 50 videos here on KZread that show *exactly* how 12.3.3 behaves in the real world. 12.3.3 has problems on the road that any *high* *school* *kid* could handle. FSD remains a simple minded 'assistant'. Level 2. Nothing more.
not the average one. it is confusing under the bridge.
@@rickhearn A human with years of experience driving, and with advanced brain and eyes can drive under the bridge without a problem. Child's play, *for* *a* *human* .
@@DerekDavis213 if that is true, then there shouldn't be any paint or damage to those metal columns there
Still multiple disengagements needed. Wow. Maybe v12.4 will offer some real improvements?
Robotaxis should come in a year or 2 from the looks of this progress. Amazing tech.
I am new to FSD with the free trial. Perhaps previous users of version 11 see how much it’s improved, but I see that it’s not there yet. Until I feel comfortable closing my eyes while the car drives, I’m not ready to buy it. While I’m happy to trial it, I think Tesla should’ve waited for more refined version before releasing it generally.
its about getting the miles needed for keeping the added computational power busy ... its there in half a year or less
If you wait until it's legally FSD you will never buy it because it will not be for sale. A robotaxi is worth hundreds of thousands of dollars. So, it's either buy now, on the hopes it will soon be there and you can resell the car for way more, or wait to experience it when you summon one through the app (and hopefully get rich off Tesla stock instead ;p). As for the trial, that is more because they need all the video data they can get in order to train it faster. Anyone buying FSD as a result is icing on the cake.
@@catbert7 A robotaxi like Waymo is full of advanced sensors, and costs much more than a Tesla that you or me could afford.
I am impressed how quiet the cabin of the Tesla is. I am familiar with the areas you drove on, all loud and noisy.
The refreshed Model 3, in particular, has incredible sound damping and an incredible audio system.
stay safe around the column bro
thank you for doing this
Nice work with this test. At the end of the video when it was stopped at the green light, did you have to start it or did it go on its own?
Had to hit the accelerator to push fsd to move. I have no idea what fsd was thinking, maybe it thought the road ahead was not a driveable road since so narrow?
Thank you for testing the challenging road !